Thank goddess for the Guardian, whose dedicated correspondents are live-blogging even now.
ETA: Hat tip commentor Trollhattan — TBogg is curating debate questions we want to hear. “If you had a soul, how much would you sell it for?”
FOX NEWS REPUBLICAN DEBATE MODERATOR: You're terrible. Why are you terrible?
CANDIDATE: We can make America great again.
— Matt Pearce (@mattdpearce) August 6, 2015
raven
Howdy doody ass motherfucker.
Another Holocene Human
OMG, Lindsay is going for the “Most Batshit” award in the Condolence Prize Debate. His tone of voice and the shit he’s saying. Unfuckingbelievable.
Central Planning
I cut the cable cord a few months ago. The local Fox affiliate is not broadcasting either debate today. Damn!
Another Holocene Human
Everybody must be at Wonkette. They declared DRINK!! for Graham’s bit before commercial.
Betty Cracker
Will the other candidates embrace Graham’s call for endless war? Stay tunes to find out! ?
Another Holocene Human
@Central Planning: In a hotel room. I think I pissed off the wife. She is sitting outside in her stocking feet.
Another Holocene Human
@Betty Cracker: Dang, how do you set [yourself] up the bomb?
MazeDancer
Seems like in an effort to not seem too crazy, the candidates all choose being lackluster and boring as their strategy.
Betty Cracker
@Another Holocene Human: iPhone.
Another Holocene Human
Totally OT, some dirty, filthy LIEbruls infiltrated one of Louuuusiana’s state Museeeeems with that Katrina exhibit. They let GWB have it. (It’s the NOLA state museum in the Presbytere, next to the frenchy french catédrale where they were “out to lunch” at 2 in the afternoon and wouldn’t sell me a candle so I could light it for my grannie, jerks).
CJ
Is there any way to watch online? Or am I just having trouble with the Fox site?
Another Holocene Human
WTF, Pataki just repeated the get them over here before they get us over here thing. Hey, people could get alcohol poisoning, didja think of that?
jl
@Another Holocene Human: He often gets that way on FTN and MTP when the corporate hack hosts let him run on at the mouth. Ol’ Schieffer would let him rave that way for minutes on end. Not sure whether Schieffer was in his partisan hack mode and letting Graham deliver the GOP message of the day, or stunned into silent disbelief at the nonsense.
But that insane, and to my ear simultaneously panicked sounding and bloodthirsty, patter is not new for Graham.
Another Holocene Human
@CJ: this was posted to wonkette but with warning it takes you to popup hell
http://www.livenewschat.eu/the-republican-debates-live-stream/
Another Holocene Human
@jl: I thought people were exaggerating out of homophobia or just derision. That kind of shit frightens me, thank goodness he doesn’t seem to have much of an audience for that shit.
Another Holocene Human
“I was the governor during the 9/11 attack.”
I heard you the first time!
CJ
@Another Holocene Human: Thanks! Adblock works well.
JPL
The Guardian blog is great. I’m not thrilled with the NYTimes live blog. They are treating the first debate as a semi-pro team.
Rommie
Sheesh, it seems like Fox is trying to scrub the scrubs away. I hope they ask the others at the Big Clown table their opinion on Trump!
srv
Strategic fencing is where it’s at. Bounties on whomever else crawls through.
scav
@JPL: The
just keeps making me laugh as it ticks over. Cheap date.
dedc79
I hate being told “The American people are tired of….”
I suppose you could say that I’m tired of being told what the American people are tired of.
MomSense
I can’t watch it. The TV is on and I can hear them, but I just can’t look at them. Santorum’s voice is terrifying. He sounds like he is mean to the core.
It’s like all of these candidates are comic book villains.
Scratch
So are any of them ammosexual enough to come up on stage packing heat and declaring, “This won’t be any sort of target rich gun-free zone!”?
srv
20-20 Perfect Vision Plan & blowtorch
Who is this Gilmore guy? Another cuckservative?
European Nightmare – boy has he got that right.
BillinGlendaleCA
My cocker spaniel doesn’t like the bell, fortunately the candidates have been pretty well behaved. Spoke too soon, two in a row went over.
Karen in GA
Can’t watch. Running errands, then photography class. I’ll be sneaking looks here on my phone while in class though, and I’m sure whatever’s said here will have me laughing out loud when I should be paying attention to the instructor, so fuck all y’all in advance.
WereBear
@Another Holocene Human: And he’s a textbook example of how people will rally around anyone in a crisis.
BillinGlendaleCA
@srv: He was governor of VA during 911, he’s said it twice.
MomSense
@BillinGlendaleCA:
My dog is freaking out at the bell, too.
raven
@MomSense: My cocker can’t hear shit unless it’s a cookie!
gf120581
@MomSense: Probably because Ricky is mean to the core. As Bob Kerry piut it: “Santorum, that’s Latin for asshole.”
Lindsey’s in full blown shrieking coward mode. Fun times.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Y’all see Carly Florina left her closing remarks in a hotel printer (Weekly Standard link). Short version: BENGHAZI!
The funny thing about this debate is none of these people are even real contenders, IMHO, for the second spot. Some people say Graham is running for the Pentagon, Florina for the Senate (as soon as she picks a state; I gather she gets her mail in Virginia these days)
trollhattan
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I was king of my go#$@mn house on 9/11 and the terrorists didn’t win there, either. What, exactly, does that prove?
Another Holocene Human
The ads on FOX are hilarity as well.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@BillinGlendaleCA: Running on 2001 is so 2004
MomSense
@raven:
All I have to say is “cheese” and my girl becomes the best behaved pup in the world.
@gf120581:
The rotten doesn’t usually come through so clearly with just audio. I’m afraid to look at him. Is he as terrifying to look at as he sounds?
Josie
@MomSense: I can’t watch or listen to these people without wondering how anyone can take them seriously or believe anything they say. The gullibility of the American electorate is a constant source of amazement to me. I always fantasize about someone saying to one of them “Are you fucking nuts?”
Another Holocene Human
Perry: Not just no, but hell no
Drink!
trollhattan
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Fiorina had her own Benghazi! on 021005. Just that hers netted her a quick twenty-one Mil. But I read Hillary charges for giving speeches.
Elizabelle
But for DougJ and pals, this debate is quenching my desire to hear another word out of these jackholes’ mouths.
And this is junior varsity.
They’re so ugly, and counterfactual.
srv
Killed our young men in Iran – past and future, Cucky Perry.
China, Russia and Europe have given up but we can control that Iranian money trail… Cucky Charly.
I cannot wait until the real Conservatives stand up later.
jl
@Another Holocene Human: Perry’s brain glasses seem to have malfunctioned today.
Edit: repeatedly. Or, the batteries went dead this morning.
Another Holocene Human
Carly just gave an incredible performace: “my good friend Bibi”, sending a message to the Supreme Leader, American in the leadership business, Day 2 of her presidency. Wow.
Also, the botox really shows when she’s excited.
Another Holocene Human
Santorum pounding the podium to share that he doesn’t know how our government works.
BillinGlendaleCA
Demon sheep lady wants the Saudi’s advice on how to fight ISIL.
MomSense
@Josie:
I don’t get it either. I look at these wahoos and can’t believe they have the nerve to think they are remotely qualified to be president. I’m not sure that it is gullibility in the American populace. This sounds terrible but I think half the country is ignorant and the Republicans provide them with a simplified (completely wrong!) version of the world that they can understand and that makes them feel a lot smarter than they really are.
Another Holocene Human
@trollhattan: So middle class, and grasping. Carly is “invited” to “share her thoughts” with “business and thought leaders” and an honorarium is bestowed upon her but she would never be so gauche as to check her bank account to count the zeroes.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
of course in a country where people think “deficit” means “bad economy”, and where Rick Perry will be lucky to get a prime time speaking slot at the national convention, I don’t think it matters much
Elizabelle
@MomSense: Bingo.
MomSense
@Another Holocene Human:
My good friend Bibi who might not take my call. Huh??
I’m sorry but I think that the cosmetic procedures involving botox and fillers look creepy. Hawk eyes, wolf cheeks, and platypus mouths do not go together.
srv
Middle East NATO… MENATO… Meanato, menudo…
Elizabelle
Who’s running the anti-Bloomberg ads? Got to be expensive.
Another Holocene Human
Anti-Bloomberg ad on FOX. Guess he’s the new Emanuel Goldstein.
Another Holocene Human
@MomSense: She said Iran’s Supreme Leader wouldn’t take her call, actually.
Another Holocene Human
“Under President Jindal”
hahahahaha
MomSense
@Another Holocene Human:
That makes more sense.
bemused
@MomSense:
Yup. Lot of people are ignorant and sort of know that in a way. They do feel disrespected so talking down to them makes them feel like those folks on the stage get them, think and talk like they do.
WereBear
@MomSense: I think it’s possible to be done right. I’m just floored when people who have the money to do it right… don’t.
Another Holocene Human
Does Jindal’s fake Texas twang play well in Louisiana?
Well, statewide polls say otherwise, so I’m guessing no.
MomSense
@Another Holocene Human:
Ewww. No thank you.
sharl
Sooo, any responses from the B-J dog community on this?
Another Holocene Human
Oh lawd, I can’t believe this, Huckleberry just turned an abortion question into a rant about the Middle East “threat”.
MomSense
@sharl:
Same here. The bell is canine crazy making.
gogol's wife
You guys are better men than I am. I couldn’t watch any of this if you paid me. But I’ll get the gist here.
BillinGlendaleCA
@sharl: I ended up putting the cocker in the kitchen, she’s still barking.
Another Holocene Human
Rick Perry and his giant bottle of white out are running for the Sarah Palin Achievement Award tonight.
Another Holocene Human
Carly Fiorina knows all about “undoing things”, the work of others.
bystander
Any Phineas & Ferb fan will recognize this “debate” as a reenactment of the evil scientists’ LOVEMUFFIN convention.
Elizabelle
@MomSense: We need video. Could be funny to see a mashup tomorrow of dogs responding to that infernal bell.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@gogol’s wife: I’m clicking around for good tweets, but I’m gonna have to go do something productive for a while. I don’t even like to watch the post-debate coverage cause they’ll keep showing clips of these freaks demagoguing and dumbing down. If one of them really steps in it, I’ll see it eventually.
Marcolin
I don’t think any one of them had a single response to their first executive order besides ‘repeal Obama’s orders’ and ‘pass an order against the things Obama is for’. Totally, completely reactionary.
MomSense
@Elizabelle:
I’ll try!
Another Holocene Human
Santorum is the child of Ronald Reagan.
You heard it here first.
Elizabelle
“believes in freedom, not Obamacare.”
Says Rick Santorum, father of a big family, and a youngest daughter with severe health problems.
Talk about not living in the real world.
Gin & Tonic
@Another Holocene Human: When all you have is a hammer…
Bjacques
Sen. Graham sounds like Joe Lieberman
Elizabelle
All of their HRC’s comments are pure projection.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Another Holocene Human: is this the political version of “How I Met Your Mother”? I’ll place my bet on Phyllis Schlafly, a wild fling at Bohemian Grove, fueled by Pat Buckley’s purple zombies
CJ
Two words. How many actually said two words? It’s a simple request!
Elizabelle
@Bjacques: Yes. He had that droopy dawg voice going.
My mother died
My father died
My dog died
My wife died — oh, wait.
NotMax
Fiorina living proof that money can buy harpyness.
Elizabelle
@CJ: Not for them!
Gimlet
Anybody forget their flag pins? Whose was the biggest?
JPL
The NYTimes thinks Fiorina came across okay. They did mention that she spoke at the Clinton Global Conference which she seemed to forget when going after Trump.
Elizabelle
@Marcolin: Cleek’s Law, personified. All of them.
BillinGlendaleCA
So Sen. Graham won’t take Social Security, what about his Senate retirement?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Gimlet: Most probably have an elephant in stripes(Republican flag).
Elizabelle
@JPL: Listened rather than watched the debate. Fiorina came across as sure of herself, if not truthful.
If you don’t know the truth, the self-confidence might appeal to LIVs (low info voters).
Another Holocene Human
Fuck you White Portrait of Bobby Jindal, you don’t need to be lecturing about assimilation. You need therapy.
Turgidson
@BillinGlendaleCA:
She knows the smell of rank bullshit, even in verbal form.
Another Holocene Human
@Elizabelle: It’s called Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Unfortunately for her, she’s no longer a CEO and people consider her a failure in business, unlike, for some damn reason, Trump.
Matt McIrvin
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
An HP printer?
raven
So Howdy Doody is going to send the hated IRS to shut down PP??? WTF-K?
Another Holocene Human
Pataki actually sounds good* but nobody in the GOP is buying what he is selling.
*-for some values of “good”
BillinGlendaleCA
@Turgidson: She’s a smart dog.
Heliopause
I only watched bits of it, but quick impressions:
1. The glasses didn’t work, Perry still stands out as a moron even amongst this group.
2. If forced to pick the least stupid it would be Fiorina.
3. If forced to pick a winner I would say Santorum.
BillinGlendaleCA
And… the Happy Hour Debate is over.
ETA: I hope everybody’s livers survived intact.
MomSense
@raven:
Wow, he really is a numbskull. Is he going to arm them first?
Heliopause
@Another Holocene Human:
An exorcism, even.
Gimlet
I think this sums things up.
http://brandingvaluenow.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/elephantpooping.jpg
Bjacques
Carly Fiorina gave me a Benghazm!
Central Planning
I heard a sound bite someone better use in an add against the republicans. Jindal listed 3 different things republicans were sent to washington for, and the republicans failed at all 3.
I think the ad could go something like “Even the republicans admit they didn’t do anything in washinton” and then play that snippet. Then, follow with “Why bother voting Republican? They won’t do what you want.”
Smiling Mortician
@Matt McIrvin: That would be lovely.
RaflW
@MomSense:
May they be sawn in half in lumber mills, chained to rail tracks (preferably Amtrak), tossed in the La Brea tar pits, etc.
trollhattan
@Central Planning: Here’s something else the Guardian guy picked up on.
Yup
Cervantes
@RaflW:
Grrr.
Ouch, even.
Elizabelle
@Central Planning: Yeah. I noticed that too. We will have to hunt down the exact quote, cuz it was “huh?”
Elizabelle
@trollhattan: Yep, yep, yep.
Will enjoy seeing polling on the gender gap, even this far out.
War on Planned Parenthood might backfire on them, big time.
Wonder if the varsity team will be less error-prone? Although, batshit crazy Republicans …
BillinGlendaleCA
@RaflW: What, for the love of FSM, did the La Brea tar pits ever do to you?
Elizabelle
ABC TV: a reporter is waiting at the airport. Trump is about to land! In Cleveland!
ETA: uh no, he landed a few hours ago. Allegedly with “his whole family.” (Really?) It’s windy, but his hair was OK. Big jet with TRUMP on the side.
beltane
@trollhattan: See, Bobby Jindal isn’t completely useless after all.
MazeDancer
Carly going to have billionaires calling her tonight. She moved up to The Show for sure.
GOP on Twitter love, love, love her. Really, total love. Fox commentators said she won, basically. And she can attack Hillary because she’s a girl, too. She’s a snooze, except when she gets her hate on. Then she sparks up and rages with fire.
Graham’s campaign ended tonight. He was so sad.
The most appalling and disgusting part of the debate was not the candidates. The moderators win for most repulsive scum. Such sick, evil twists of questions. (How far would you go? Would you surveil mosques?) If that’s what people hear all day long on Fox, no wonder they’re all twisted.
Elizabelle
@MazeDancer: I thought Fiorina was the most direct and the most vile. Came across in the voice.
Mack
I watched the undercard, about what I expected. Here’s an honest question for the bigger brains here at BJ. (I mean that) It’s seems obvious to me that the GOP will have to have a woman on the ticket, it’s the only thing that blunts the “war on women” argument. Is Fiorina the best bet for them?
Calouste
@BillinGlendaleCA: The La Brea Tar Pits are full of prehistoric relics, the GOP candidates would fit right in.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
My understanding is it’s almost impossible to refuse Social Security. You can give it away, but you more or less have to take it. Is that wrong?
The Village will keep him going, He doesn’t need a bilionaire, he has the ghosts of Russet and Broder
Mike J
Audience for the junior debate, NYT photo:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLwZC6GUMAQID4d.jpg:large
BillinGlendaleCA
@Calouste: The tar pits is really a nice place, why destroy it with them?
ETA: The LACMA is next to the tar pits.
Yatsuno
@RaflW:
What did the tar pits do to deserve such a cruel fate?
@BillinGlendaleCA: DAMMIT!!! I knew I’d get beaten to that punch!
scav
@Mike J: That one could very well be put to some fine uses.
Mike in NC
ABC News is concern trolling about Legionnaire’s Disease, because Ebola was too boring. Everything old is new again.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Mack: Wasn’t she pro-choice when she ran for CA Senate? My recollection is that McCain skipped over Kay Bailey H and Jodi Rell, to say nothing of Lieberman, because they were impure, and they’re whipping up the Fetus Caucus with a vengeance. Kelly Ayotte, maybe? Joni Ernst?
If I were gonna make bets on the GOP ticket, I’d put twenty on Walker/Rubio, and twenty on Bush/Kasich (with the usual caveat that I have a hard time seeing Kasich taking a junior position to anyone)– Ed Kilgore quoted a source saying Bush has all but decided to ask Kasich, and while I trust his word more than WaPo or Politico, who knows what a “close source” is.
jl
@Calouste: Some giant ground sloths (quicker) and saber tooth tigers (braver) are pissed at being insulted and are asking for an apology.
Tree With Water
They’re like a pack of rabid dogs, straining and thrashing at their leash, while tearing the air with their fangs. They embody everything the planet righteously fears about the United States, and I hate their guts.
jl
@Mike J: Is that lady in black knitting something?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mike J: That’s probably mostly reporters waiting for the main card. It’s either that or the hotel bar. I’m kinda surprised that many didn’t opt for the hotel bar.
Mack
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Jim, I just believe that the electorate they face commands them to pick a female or Hispanic, (and they are out of credible Hispanics) but I unwisely began a drinking game at the start of the kid’s debate…so I may not be making much sense.
gogol's wife
@Tree With Water:
See, this is why I can’t watch it.
Mike J
@jl: It would be easier for the weakest poltroon that lives, to erase himself from existence, than to erase one letter of his name or crimes from the knitted register of Madame Defarge.
gogol's wife
@jl:
I think it’s the smartphone of Madame Defarge.
jl
@Heliopause:
” The glasses didnât work, Perry still stands out as a moron even amongst this group. ”
Perry’s bizarre goofs seem to be main headline items so far. But I can see why. Can’t remember St. Reagan’s name right, or how long your governor job lasted. That kind of thing is quick easy and cheap to post and people will read to see whether it could possibly really be true, so also clickbait.
Cervantes
@Tree With Water:
You, sir, are a poet.
Roger Moore
@Another Holocene Human:
She was the head of a publicly traded company, so she has a lot less wiggle room to lie about the state of the business before and after she was there.
JPL
The disgust with the videos of planned parenthood has to do with fetal tissue. Why aren’t they discussing a law banning fetal tissue research?
hmmmm
scav
SatanicPanic
@Elizabelle:
I don’t think they are making errors. That’s what they believe. If anything the varsity team will be more strident, that’s why they made the big people table.
Roger Moore
@raven:
But these are the people who thought it was total persecution when the IRS didn’t just rubber stamp Tea Party groups’ 501c4 applications.
ultraviolet thunder
I’m in Canada and I can’t watch this. Poor hotel bandwidth also, too.
The Guardian liveblog was devastating.
Charlie Pierce already hates this election but I want to gay marry it and raise its babies. Maybe it’s my admittedly irregular state of mind these days but I find the absurdity delightful.
Mike in NC
@Elizabelle: They called the plane Trump Force One. Maybe the Kardashian klan was sitting in the back.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Sigh. And that’s not even the network that runs his TV show, is it?
Chris
@jl:
So Perry’s continuing his mind-fart tradition, then?
“The three departments I want to abolish are… ahhh… wait… what was the third one?”
ThresherK
Not watching. Not listening. Can’t make me.
Thanks to all of you I can honestly say I’m on top of everything newsworthy.
MazeDancer
@Elizabelle:
Fiorina was, indeed, direct and vile. You are right.
But that’s why GOP loves her. She called Hillary a liar. Flat out. Men can’t do that this early.
She wins tonight. Until her biz record is trashed, she’ll be the Veep front-runner. Attack dog is Veep job.
Origuy
@Mike in NC: I’m surprised they aren’t freaking out about bubonic plague in Colorado.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
jl
Sometimes the full implications of these great historic events are not apparent until they are over.
I suddenly realized that soon we will lose some of these special snowflake candidates, and fewer clowns to render the GOP ridiculous in the eyes of he voters.
Or, maybe not, and they all can keep grifting until early next years. Please stay. Even you Rick Perry, Just get bigger thicker glasses and see if that will work, please…
Either way, reason for a stiff shot of some hard likker. Which I will probably just imagine taking since the debate left my tummy queasy for some reason.
Right to Rise
This is all just a prelude to The Great Clearing which begins in two short hours. Jen Bush will clear the field and unite the party.
It’s appropriate this is the anniversary of Hiroshima because Jeb is going to drop some nukes on Trump tonight baby.
Yatsuno
@Roger Moore: Not to mention Piyush would have to overturn the Reform and Restructuring Act that made it virtually impossible for the IRS to be used to punish political opponents.Good luck with that.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: They’ve forgotten the game wardens. They protect innocent life and arrest violators. I remember reading that in the back of cheezy magazines.
scav
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Which is the Prince and Which the Pauper in the Jeb. Trump matchup? Dynasty to the left, Dynasty to the right and assumed accouterments of state (and escalators) for a third.
lgerard
ALL HAIL RONALD RAVEN!!!!!
Love Rick Perry, he’s hilarious
Bobby Thomson
@Elizabelle: might?
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: wtf
J R in WV
I can’t help but fee bad for our country when our democracy is such a failure. People in school don’t bother to read their civics book, and so don’t know how government works, at all.
People don’t bother to read a newspaper, even when they’re free (some of ’em, some of the time, anyhoo) so they don’t know what their politicians are talking about when politicians bother to talk about current events.
People don’t bother to vote, because they’re too stupid to know which candidate can’t count to 20 without taking his/her shoes off, and don’t understand that voting is actually important when you can tell the candidates apart.
We’re so screwed!
What a cluster fuck, when one of the only two political parties we seem to be allowed by state laws about voting is too crazy to even make sense. We are SO screwed!
shell
I dont think you can be a villain in a red sweater vest, (Tho, that might be interesting) Kinds surprised Santorum showed up. He was so pissy/pouty when he found out he didn’t make the first tier.
*******************
Loved Perry response to the immigration question. “Our border is still porous!” And then proceeds to claim He’s the best to handle it, the most experienced. if he’s so good, how come its still so porous. Then “Send me to Washington and Ill fix it” I thought government couldnt handle anything?
Mike J
@lgerard: That’s so Raven.
Mike E
@Another Holocene Human:
It’s the Y chromosome… stands for Yuuuuuge!
Bobby Thomson
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: ghosts don’t pay for gas.
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Same Weigel twitter feed
Iâm sorry how is asking Jim Gilmore what heâll do as president any less silly than asking me the plan for my date with Jennifer Lawrence
A guy
Watched some of it. At least those folks like america unlike our president
Cervantes
@J R in WV:
Has the nation been in a worse situation before?
Gin & Tonic
Looks like it’ll be trollfecta tonight, folks.
Gimlet
@A guy:
If they really liked America, they’d be wearing guns and have a huge flag pin on their lapel.
JPL
Weigel also has this tweet
In spin room, Jindal says he would also be open to sending OSHA and the EPA against Planned Parenthood.
I guess the good news is that under Jindal, we still would have the EPA.
beltane
@Gin & Tonic: Even the trolls seemed to find the wannabees’ debate kind of meh. No fire in their bellies whatsoever.
Heliopause
Nate Silver wrote another one trashing Trump today. Every time he does this Trump’s poll numbers jump. Keep it up, Nate.
jl
@J R in WV: what you point out is true and a shame. But remember that there are powerful actors in our society that want things that way, and spend a lot of money to encourage that state of affairs.
beltane
@A guy: You failed to capitalize “America”. Someone with your type of “love” probably uses the flag as toilet paper.
Yatsuno
@Right to Rise:
*snickers*
You were overpaid.
jl
” Jen Bush will clear the field and unite the party. ”
Now if JEN Bush could run for president, that would be a good thing, I would have hope for the GOP, and not fear a GOP victory so much. But, is she old enough yet?
Probably it is DougJ, a little trashed at the BJ meetup and showing off in front of the other folks. Is my opinion.
Edit: Wiki says a year shy for 2016. Too bad. GOP needs some smart and sane people to get involved in politics. But looks like we have to wait for some competent Bush people to run. Clearly she got her talents, comparatively speaking, from Laura Bush.
satby
@ultraviolet thunder: Condolences to you and your family on the loss of your mom. So sorry to hear that.
A guy
Good point gimlet! And omg Beltane, did you get the daily show gig? If now somebody needs to lose a job!
Mike E
@jl: @Yatsuno: It’s pronounced, “Hen”.
Right to Rise
I’m on my Droid phone so I made a typo. Sue me.
Just wait until 9.
beltane
@jl: I think DougJ is doing double troll duty tonight. Typographical errors are to be expected.
Yatsuno
@Mike E: Ah. The obscure Iberian pronunciation. Duly noted good sir!
@Right to Rise: You should be more careful. You’re getting paid from UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH!!! for this shit. Your bosses are watching…
dmsilev
@Yatsuno: Hush you. We want Jeb Bush to keep “productively” spending all of that UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH.
jl
If Jeb! Bush does have some devastating dirt on, or responses to, Mr. Trump (and I am sure both exist) it will be interesting to see if Jeb! can deliver them in a way that anyone else can decipher.
That might be a good drinking sub-game, if that eventuality transpires.
Edit: if Jeb! tries, I predict afterwords there will be clarification: “My debate remarks were taken out context, I misspoke, I meant to damn Trump not to praise him and (sneer) asking me what I meant shows disrespect to our troops, the innocent unborn, the cause of defunding women’s health, raising social security retirement age, working longer hours in an innumerate attempt at a growth policy, and…
Roger Moore
@Yatsuno:
No he wouldn’t; he’d just ignore it. That’s what Republicans do when they don’t like the laws as written.
Steeplejack (tablet)
@gogol’s wife:
Good Michael Caine movie on TCM at 10:00: The Ipcress File (1965). Hannah and Her Sisters at 8:00.
ultraviolet thunder
@satby:
Thank you very much. It was a devastating shock but we’re all managing to find our way ahead.
Irreverent as it seems, the election hilarity is a much needed occasional respite from grief. The Donald is helping us all keep it together by being his absurd and ridiculous self.
Yatsuno
@dmsilev: What, I can’t poke the trolls now? You people are so unfair!
Cheryl from Maryland
@lgerard: I guess perry confused Regan with the Raven King from Jonathan Strange and Mr. Burrell. Hmmm I might consider voting for the raven king.
Mike E
@Right to Rise:
What an adorable little rascal! I’m surprised yer mom hasn’t blocked this site! Stick around, you might learn something!
geg6
Glad I missed it. But I have a bottle of wine for when the big boys table gets served up later.
dmsilev
@Yatsuno: Don’t poke too hard, that’s all. After all the work we’ve done to break in this one, it’d be a real pity if it flounced away and we’d have to deal with its replacement.
Roger Moore
@Cheryl from Maryland:
John Uskglass doesn’t need your vote.
scav
@Mike E: Course she hasn’t. His Mama doesn’t raise no moochers. He’s got to earn his cash before he gets room, board and a bed-time-hug tonight.
MomSense
@RaflW:
I’d settle for old school falling, falling in vats of acid, explosions, and being run over by steam rollers.
jl
Maybe somebody at the BJ meetup will rat out DougJ. This is a pack of rabid jackals, or hyenas, or skunks.. if forget which.
shell
So, according to Santorum, the Planned Parenthood phony tapes are now supposed to show partial birth abortions. The better to save those sale-able organs.
Jeebus.
Whats he gonna claim next…Black mass and animal sacrifice?
Mike E
@Steeplejack (tablet): The Awful Truth is on get tv…Irene Dunne, Cary Grant and Ralph Bellamy.
princess leia
“Rick Perry, Lindsey Graham, Bobby Jindal and Rick Santorum are having dinner together, according to the Wall Street Journal and Time magazine, thus fulfilling the dream of exactly no one who has ever been asked about whom they would invite to a dinner party if they could invite anyone in the world.” guardian blog
Emma
@Right to Rise: You, sir, are the vomit of a rabid dog.
Gimlet
LOS ANGELES (AP) â Signs that pay TV’s pricy bundles of channels are starting to unravel finally took a toll on major media companies.
Media stocks were hammered for a second day Thursday as Viacom’s underwhelming earnings gave investors another reason to sell, after industry bellwether Disney earlier in the week trimmed a profit outlook due to more people cutting the cord on pay-TV packages.
Dish said Wednesday its satellite TV subscriber losses accelerated in the quarter through June, falling 81,000 to 13.9 million, nearly double the loss of 44,000 a year ago.
cmorenc
@MomSense:
This is it. EXACTLY. And the Donald Trump contingent is even more visceral and simple. On a different forum that isn’t supposed to be about politics at all, there’s a RWNJ guy who can’t resist occasionally throwing in politically loaded jabs, even though political discussions are verboten on this hobby forum. He likes Trump because Trump has the will to do what it takes to win…anything. That’s hyoooje with this guy.
goblue72
@Emma: Its gotta be DougJ trolling. Have a hard time seeing John not bringing out the ban hammer otherwise.
SiubhanDuinne
Oh dear jeebus, Tweety has Michele Bachmann on his show as an expert commentator. Christ on an undercooked three-foot-long Iowa State Fair corn dog.
gogol's wife
@Yatsuno:
Isn’t she one of Caitlyn Jenner’s pals?
Mandalay
@Mack:
If only. Having Fiorina run for VP would be like the gods throwing the Republicans an anvil as they drowned.
All her rivals are god awful, but if Democrats wanted to attack anyone she would be the number one choice: fired for gross incompetence, sent thousands of American jobs overseas, zero experience as a politician, a woman who is hostile to womens’ rights….
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack (tablet):
My husband is opting for a Father Brown rerun.
gogol's wife
@Mike E:
THE FUNNIEST FILM EVER MADE
japa21
@SiubhanDuinne: Well, to give him the benefit of the doubt, she is an expert on being a crazy loon .
gogol's wife
@Mandalay:
Trump-Fiorina sounds good to me!
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: She is, admittedly, an expert on failed Presidential campaigns.
different-church-lady
OK, I’ve lost track of the tournament rules. Is this a play-in debate? Does the winner get to be the #16 seed in one of the regional brackets?
shell
@gogol’s wife: Another alternative to the debates- The new season of Project Runway starts tonight.
Mike E
@gogol’s wife: I’m used to Cary Grant’s heavy lifting, but Irene Dunne’s turn is quite the delight.
CJ
@different-church-lady: It’s more like promotion and relegation in soccer, some might make it to the big time and some might get demoted.
Yatsuno
@dmsilev: Sigh. Fine. I’m pretty sure it’s just DougJ reusing the old schtick.
@gogol’s wife: Caitlyn fortunately will never lack for friends. Famous background coupled with her rather infamous family will assure that.
Joseph Nobles
@princess leia: I expected better of Lindsey Graham.
dmsilev
@different-church-lady: Update: We’re going to be following cricket Test match rules. Which means, among other things, that each debate will last a fortnight.
Cheryl from Maryland
@Roger Moore: John Uskglass doesn’t need anyone’s vote. Also I’m not certain he’s a citizen of the U.S.
Gimlet
A lot of Portlanders want to see Bernie Sanders this weekend. How many? Too many to fit in the Veterans Memorial Coliseum.
The rally for the Vermont senator and surging Democratic presidential candidate is this Sunday, August 9âand the campaign just announced a change of venues.
Sanders was originally scheduled to speak at the 12,888-seat Coliseum, but Sandersâ campaign today announced it’s moving to the nearby Moda Center, which seats 19,980. (More or less.)
Sandersâ website doesnât list the total number of people who have signed up, but a since-deleted tweet said 9,000 people RSVP’d for the Rose Quarter rally within the first 48 hours of its announcement.
Emma
@goblue72: Yeah, I thought of that after I had posted. I blame my 12-hours-creating-spreadsheets headache.
Mack
@Mandalay: I wish I felt as confident as you. I completely agree that she would be vulnerable to a litany of attacks…if only the Repub voters paid attention to them. We very nearly had a McCain/Palin administration…and I think the electorate has dumbed down a bit since then. I’ll toss up a double sawbuck that the R’s pick a woman…and I don’t see another one on the horizon as of yet.
scav
@dmsilev: O! we will have such fun with the positions: Leg Slip, Deep Square Leg, Deep Cover, Deep Backward Point, Deep Fine Leg, Long Off, Cow Corner, Silly Point, Silly Mid On, Silly Mid Off . . .
SiubhanDuinne
@MomSense:
No. It doesn’t sound terrible at all.
gogol's wife
@Mike E:
Especially — “Jerry the Nipper”! “gone with the wind”
SiubhanDuinne
@srv:
You say MENATO and I say MENAHTO.
Mandalay
@gogol’s wife:
Me too, but Fiorina Trump probably wouldn’t even deign to shake her hand. He has no time for losers, and Fiorina gushes loser stink.
Roger Moore
@Cheryl from Maryland:
I don’t think the lack of citizenship would stop him if he really wanted to be in charge around here.
JPL
IMO… The Repubs were able to close down ACORN and not one democrat spoke about what ACORN did.
Planned Parenthood is under attack and I think the message needs to be changed. What they did is legal and not funded by the Government.
I wish Hillary would talk about organ donation and the good that it has done for society as a whole. Fetal tissue research is invaluable but she could make it a bigger issue on all organs after we die.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
What makes this from Lindsey Graham even weirder is that the question he was responding to was “How would you inspire Americans?”
We have nothing to fear but fear itself!
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country!
Yes, we can!
Give up your Social Security so that we have more money to send your kids back to fight and bleed in Iraq!
Stand back, liberals, the Lindsey Juggernaut starts now!
edited, I can’t type today. I blame autocorrect
TriassicSands
Perry sounds just as stupid as another former Texas governor talking about “Noo-kyu-lur” weapons.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@JPL: she came out pretty strong in her defense of PP, much stronger than I can imagine her doing in ’08
Irony Abounds
I find Carly Fiorina insufferable. Here’s a woman who gets fired from her job, yet gets a $21M severance package for being fired, running for the nomination of a party that is deadset on keeping unemployment benefits as low and as short-lived as possible (I know she flip-flopped on that issue while running for the Senate, but I don’t think there’s any doubt UE benefits would virtually disappear under the Presidency and a Republican Congress. Moreover, she was fired for doing a shitty job and making a horrible decision about the Compaq merger, yet her she is touting her business skills. Not to mention her kow-towing to Israel (her first call as President will be to her good friend Bibi). I want to throw up every time I see her hideous face.
SiubhanDuinne
@Cervantes:
I would comment, but can’t stop — I’m on my way to the automatic ATM teller machine.
Mandalay
President Lindsay Graham was interviewed after the debate by Japanese reporters, who asked him about Hiroshima:
http://www.nytimes.com/live/republican-debate-election-2016-cleveland/?ref=politics
If you made this stuff up nobody would believe it.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mack:
For the past year or so, I’ve put my money on Nikki Haley as GOP VP candidate. After last month and her (*cough*) leadership (*cough*) in the Dixie Swastika Incident, I think it’s even more likely
Mandalay
@Irony Abounds:
Yep. The best way to make Hillary Clinton seem warm, cuddly and likable is for Republicans to run Fiorina as their VP candidate.
SiubhanDuinne
@Right to Rise:
Who she?
Mike in NC
@SiubhanDuinne: Nikki Haley has repeatedly called labor unions and members of labor unions “cockroaches” who are not welcome in ‘her’ state. Wonder how the media would try to sell that.
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: Make sure to input your PIN number correctly.
different-church-lady
@Irony Abounds:
Look, she took the job, ran the company into the ground, and jumped out with her golden parachute. What the fuck more could anyone want from a CEO?
johio
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: what about the gov of N Mexico, Susanna Martinez? Female, Latina? Seems ideal.
different-church-lady
@Mike in NC: Yeah, so perfect GOP VP material then.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mike E:
And spelled ÂĄJen!
jl
@JPL:
” I wish Hillary would talk about organ donation ”
As I understand it, that is what HRC is trying to do, by saying that she found the organ donation negotiations shown in the crooked and dishonestly edited tapes to be ‘disturbing’, but that if there is a problem it is how we do organ and tissue donation, not Planned Parenthood. The substance and style of her remarks were too ‘triangular’ for my tastes, but I think that is what she she is trying to do.
Edit: but she did slap the sleazy Jeb! in the face on his egregious and not at all ‘misspoken’ or ‘out of context’ aside on cutting women’s health funding, as she should have.
Mike in NC
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Pretty sure that career pol Lindsey Graham has a posh mansion in Hilton Head and several million bucks socked away in a Swiss bank account. He don’t need no stinkin’ Social Security.
Roger Moore
@scav:
The Republicans are definitely taking the silly positions.
SiubhanDuinne
@Cheryl from Maryland:
Yes. Perry often confused.
different-church-lady
@efgoldman: Sox just tied the game in The Bronx.
ETA: Made it to page 683 of the e-mails. Brady’s pool cover still hasn’t been delivered.
SiubhanDuinne
@japa21:
@dmsilev:
I’m such an elitist, I guess I forget about other areas of expertise. My bad.
SiubhanDuinne
@Joseph Nobles:
said no one ever.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mike in NC:
Right to work. It’s a big thing in the South. Should play well among GOP voters.
dmsilev
New thread, please?
different-church-lady
@dmsilev: What? And ruin our chance at a TBOGG?
sukabi
@Elizabelle: you forgot the one in a jar on the mantel