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Thursday Afternoon Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  August 13, 20152:42 pm| 80 Comments

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make me a sammich

So, what’s for lunch?

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  1. 1.

    dedc79

    August 13, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    This non-defense defense by Ben Carson nearly made me spit out my lunch:

    Carson on Thursday rejected the comparison between his research and what Planned Parenthood has been accused of doing.

    “You have to look at the intent,” Carson told The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel before he began a campaign swing through New Hampshire. “To willfully ignore evidence that you have for some ideological reason is wrong. If you’re killing babies and taking the tissue, that’s a very different thing than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it.”

    If you had to reread that once or twice, you’re not alone. It’s a very complex — and politically charged — issue.

  2. 2.

    tesslibrarian

    August 13, 2015 at 2:47 pm

    Well, lunch was just a grilled cheese sandwich and some pickled okra, but I’m reheating leftovers of Frogmore Stew from last night’s meal for dinner tonight. The greens won’t be fresh, and my bread will just be toasted, but damn it was good.

  3. 3.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    August 13, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    More swimming, in an hour. With luck the town’s outdoor pool will hold its temperature until it closes for the season.

  4. 4.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    @dedc79: Not really, it’s like questioning why the drug war doesn’t focus on the demand side and the wingnut turns that back around into talking about how eeeeEEEeeevil drug dealers are.

  5. 5.

    The Other Chuck

    August 13, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    sudo make me a sandwich

  6. 6.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 2:51 pm

    @tesslibrarian: That sounded so good until I got to the Old Bay seasoning.

    Why ruin fresh ingredients by tossing that starch flavor powder packet stuff in there? Why?

    What Old Bay is good for: taldepot.com/utz-crab-chips-3-5-oz-bags-pack-of-12.html?fee=1&fep=633&gclid=CPH-n5bdpscCFU…

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    August 13, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    My lunch is going to be some leftover pizza (homemade) with an orange or two as dessert.

  8. 8.

    NonyNony

    August 13, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    @dedc79:

    This non-defense defense by Ben Carson nearly made me spit out my lunch

    Why? Carson’s rationale here sounds exactly like the kind of “it’s okay if you happen to be me” defenses of various things I hear from my right-wing family members.

    And Carson supporters probably won’t even blink here. They believe that Planned Parenthood is paying women to get pregnant so they can harvest their fetuses and sell them to mad scientists. Carson, on the other hand, bought fetal tissue through a reputable tissue dealer. And when he got it it was already dead – it isn’t like he was part of a Satanic baby-killing plot. He’s just a doctor.

    The point here is that what Carson was doing will be seen as perfectly reasonable, and what Planned Parenthood was doing was Satanic. The fact that they were all part of the same thing is something only we here in the real world who care about “facts” and “logic” believe. Carson’s supporters will not see the connection here, unless they somehow decide that Carson is himself tied into the Satanic conspiracy that is Planned Parenthood.

  9. 9.

    tesslibrarian

    August 13, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: My guess is the restaurant where the dish was created doesn’t actually use Old Bay, but their own mix. I wasn’t able to identify it as Old Bay until I found the recipe.

  10. 10.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    I’m trying to write letters asking for established authors to write endorsements of Becoming Phoebe. Needless to say, this is not easy for someone who is horribly afraid of asking people for favors. Is Frankensteinbeck around?

  11. 11.

    KG

    August 13, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    @dedc79: as I said elsewhere… his position is basically “I didn’t rob the bank, I just spent the money” or “I didn’t steal the TV, I just put it up in my house”

  12. 12.

    mai naem mobile

    August 13, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    They’ve got a left handers day hashtag going on on the Tweeter. I knew PBO,WJC and Sir Paul were lefties – did not know Bach,Beethoven,Mozart,Rachmaninoff and Paganini were lefties too. Also, Jimmy Hendrix. Where’s my musical talent?

  13. 13.

    Bobby Thomson

    August 13, 2015 at 3:01 pm

    @KG: he bought the TV out of the back of a truck.

  14. 14.

    flukebucket

    August 13, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    I read today that Debbie Schlussel had tweeted today that “a cancer has cancer” in reference to President Jimmy Carter. If that is true it is surely shitty.

  15. 15.

    Spanky

    August 13, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    @dedc79:
    I betcha God told him to say that.

  16. 16.

    Roger Moore

    August 13, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    @mai naem mobile:
    Also, too, Babe Ruth, Sandy Koufax, Lefty Grove (who knew!), Rickey Henderson, etc.

  17. 17.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    @NonyNony:

    Carson’s rationale here sounds exactly like the kind of “it’s okay if you happen to be me” defenses of various things I hear from my right-wing family members.

    Oh yes, this.

    Is this a lunch thread? I had canned New Orleans cream beans with rice and they were delicious. I think they are designed to be eaten with a nice tart hot sauce. I also dolled it up with chopped onion and cheddar cheese.

  18. 18.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    @flukebucket: Debbie Schlussel is still around?

    I wonder if she cries every night when she looks upon Infinite Erick’s relative mainstream success. Debbie who?

  19. 19.

    dedc79

    August 13, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    @KG: I also love the “you have to look at the intent” defense. If only he and his buddies would take a step back every once in a while and consider people’s intent. But when you ban stuff, there’s no room for considering intent.

  20. 20.

    Redshift

    August 13, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    I called Mark Warner’s office today and talked to a staffer. (I just left a message last week.) He’s been a profile in courage (/snark) about the Iran deal like he is about nearly everything, never giving a peep about what he’s thinking until it’s time for the vote.

    I politely told them that I’d been a supporter and a campaign volunteer, but that I would not be either again if he votes against this deal.

  21. 21.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:08 pm

    @KG: I didn’t grow the weed, I just smoked it up.

  22. 22.

    dedc79

    August 13, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    @NonyNony: It would not surprise me one bit if he gets a pass on this from primary voters for the reasons you lay out.

  23. 23.

    Betty Cracker

    August 13, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    @flukebucket: She is and always has been a terrible human being.

  24. 24.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    @tesslibrarian: Ah.

    I’ve come to find the taste of Old Bay on seafood somewhat depressing. It’s actually good in crab cakes, although crab cakes can be plenty good without it, too.

    Maryland Eastern Shore. That’s Old Bay to me.

  25. 25.

    Linda Featheringill

    August 13, 2015 at 3:11 pm

    @flukebucket:

    Jimmy Carter:

    I googled JC and found that he made a statement that he had developed liver cancer but it has now spread to other parts of his body.

    He is 90 years old.

    This is very sad.

  26. 26.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Your cover looks nice.

    Have you tried tweeting at authors in your category?

  27. 27.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    @dedc79: Carson is implying that there is an entire industry dedicated to the pursuit of impregating women specifically to terminate those pregnancies and supply the medical research industry with foetal tissue. Falls under what I call the Recreational Abortionist Fallacy: the anti-choice presumption that pro-choice directly translates as “physicians/women aborting pregnancies for fun and profit”. It’s a common misconception on the Right. Key example: the total confusion they exhibited when they learned Chelsea Clinton (a pro-choice woman) was [gasp] having a baby and not automatically terminating her pregnancy based on her pro-choice philosophy.

  28. 28.

    NonyNony

    August 13, 2015 at 3:18 pm

    @dedc79:

    They’ve built Planned Parenthood up into such a Satanic boogeyman that I think it’s so disconnected from reality that it will be easy for them to ignore the association.

    Seriously – if you listen to my right-wing relatives Planned Parenthood is some combination of HYDRA, LexCorp and the Satanic Temple. It is up to some severe supervillainy in their minds. I wouldn’t be surprised if Carson gets a pass just because the stuff he did doesn’t match up with the EVIL EVILNESS that they associate with the “Satanic Abortion Industry” in their fevered imaginations.

  29. 29.

    Iowa Old Lady

    August 13, 2015 at 3:23 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: I do think it’s a good idea to ask someone in women’s hockey. You have a great content hook, which isn’t all that common. You should use it.

  30. 30.

    Arclite

    August 13, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    So, what’s for lunch?

    That cracked me up.

  31. 31.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: I don’t do Twitter and I am not actually at all familiar with other books in this one’s category. Everything else I write, and all of the authors I know, are fantasy/science fiction. I read a few things more akin to it, though I’ve had trouble findings one that I like. (I don’t doubt that there are plenty that I would like; I’ve just been incapable of finding a way to distinguish those from ones I don’t like without reading the first third of them.) I did read The Goldfinch and ended up wondering how the hell that could have been published without an editor insisting that it get pared down to half it’s length, let alone win a Pulitzer.

    So I’m engaged in trying to find authors I could query within that genre, and identifying authors I know outside the genre who would still be appropriate.

  32. 32.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    How did Elon’s thread magically appear in between threads like that? This is an open thread so it isn’t off topic to discuss blog workings, I trust.

  33. 33.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: As for that, it depends upon what “someone in women’s hockey” means. I don’t know any of the players, and here it’s not just a matter of being scared of asking people; I really think that breaking the wall between fans and players is not a good idea, especially given my semi-official position within Minnesota women’s hockey. (I’m the treasurer of the booster club, and the coach is, quite validly in my mind, determined to keep members from crossing that line.)

    I know some of the parents of players. The problem there is finding someone who wants to read it. Actually, that’s might not be a bad idea, to try to get one of them, and I have a couple of possibilities. I’ll ask the person who is helping/consulting with me if she thinks that would help. (Not coincidentally, I know her because she’s also a Gopher women’s hockey season ticket holder.)

  34. 34.

    dedc79

    August 13, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    @boatboy_srq:

    Falls under what I call the Recreational Abortionist Fallacy

    And then there’s the Recreational Welfare Recipient Fallacy, the Recreational Food Stamp Recipient Fallacy, the Recreational Unemployment Recipient Fallacy, etc…

  35. 35.

    trollhattan

    August 13, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    Cartoon misspells “sammich,” otherwise darn funny.

  36. 36.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    There’s a big row going on in the English Premier League right now. Chelsea FC manager Jose Mourinho has had the first team doctor and physiotherapist banished from the team bench after they went on the pitch to treat an injured Chelsea player, at the referee’s summons but apparently against Mourinho’s wishes. Mourinho’s action has been denounced by the Premier League Doctors Group as “unjust in the extreme”, as well as by Chelsea fans and most of the football world.

    Jose Mourinho is a blight on football, and Chelsea should sack him instead of punishing innocent people at his whim.

  37. 37.

    schrodinger's cat

    August 13, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    I can has tax incentives? One percenter wants tax incentives to pay employees making less than 80,000 a year.

  38. 38.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    @dedc79: More like the Recreational Voter Impersonation Fraud Fallacy. These two are actual malicious efforts to kill millions of helpless protocitizens for the sweet sweet joy in their demise and the precious medical-research lucre, or subvert God’s Greatest Republic through stuffing ballot boxes: the others are just individual moochers swollen from feeding off the public teat and sucking Righteous Xtian Hetero Patriotic Real Ahmurrcans’ bank accounts dry through Evil Taxation.

  39. 39.

    schrodinger's cat

    August 13, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    For lunch I had chapatis and kheema (ground turkey + beef) and stir fried cauliflower with Indian spices. It was nutritious and delicious.

  40. 40.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: What a read. Poor baby wants a(nother) carrot when he deserves a stick.

  41. 41.

    goblue72

    August 13, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    @flukebucket: She did.

  42. 42.

    dedc79

    August 13, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    @boatboy_srq: Whenever I hear wingers complain about voter fraud, my response is something along the lines of “This is a country where we struggle to get 60% of eligible voters to cast one ballot even during a presidential election year, and you’re worried that there are people out there finding ways to vote twice or three times?” Well, that, and that actual voter fraud basically doesn’t exist.

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    August 13, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: In the back room, you can specify the publishing time in a draft so that it appears before an already published post. I’m not sure why EJW does that — maybe he doesn’t want to fuck around with trying not to bigfoot other people, which can be a hassle — but it’s not unusual for him to use that technique.

  44. 44.

    Another Holocene Human

    August 13, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: What about sports journalists?

  45. 45.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    Now that’s what I call an optimistic man: Mike Huckabee won’t denounce Donald Trump; you never know, he might just want Trump’s support if he, Huckabee, is nominated next year.

  46. 46.

    tybee

    August 13, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    old bay is good on crabs.

    zatarain’s is good for shrimp dishes like that low country boil.

  47. 47.

    Scamp Dog

    August 13, 2015 at 3:55 pm

    @The Other Chuck: password?

    No sandwich for you, then!

  48. 48.

    Betty Cracker

    August 13, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym:

    I did read The Goldfinch and ended up wondering how the hell that could have been published without an editor insisting that it get pared down to half it’s length, let alone win a Pulitzer.

    Thank you! Everyone else I know, even people whose opinions on books usual track with mine, thought The Goldfinch was pretty good if not great. I thought it was a rambling mess.

  49. 49.

    Iowa Old Lady

    August 13, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I could not read that book. The pace was glacial.

  50. 50.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    A quick summary of the Chelsea row, for anyone interested.

  51. 51.

    zmulls

    August 13, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    @Betty Cracker: “Great” is a tough word to toss around — “The Secret History,” I think, was great.

    But I enjoyed “The Goldfinch” immensely and the length and picaresque-ness of it were entirely the point, I thought. It was self-consciously “Dickensian” — orphan boy stumbles through one socio-economic milieu after another, interacting with strange and striking characters, with the events and settings commenting on various parts of America. The isolated Vegas housing development, the claustrophobic and wondrous antique restoration shop, the emotionally dessicated rich family’s apartment — it was a great ride. The McGuffin of the painting was just a way in to the story. If it had been shorter — or if an editor had pushed for the plot to be less baroque — it wouldn’t have been the book it was trying to be.

    My opinion, of course, among many others — but it was one of the most fun (in a literary way) things I’ve read in a while. I devoured it in a couple of days.

  52. 52.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I thought that there was a very good story trying to get out, but it had two desperate problems that should have been addressed in the editing stage:

    1) Too fucking long. There are whole sections that are just numbingly repetitive. Several chapters could have been killed wholesale, and the rest should have been weeded extensively;

    2) The protagonist is so bloody passive and there are never consequences for anything he does, either internally or externally. He takes heroic amounts of drugs and alcohol, then just gives them up once he feels like it. He commits wholesale fraud and everyone who finds out about it just kinds of shrugs. And he’s involved in a murder that just disappears after it happens.

    I extensively rewrote the second half of Becoming Phoebe because my editor pointed out, correctly, that Phoebe was way too passive and stopped growing. So it was frustrating to pick up a Pulitzer Prize winning novel that suffers from the same flaw, except on a massive scale.

  53. 53.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 4:12 pm

    @Another Holocene Human: That’s an interesting idea. I actually know the Toronto Globe and Mail’s primary hockey writer, James Mirtle, from the days when he was just a blogger, though we haven’t communicated in a few years.

  54. 54.

    lamh36

    August 13, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    LISTEN: Janelle Monáe Releases New Song About State Violence – Urban Cusp urbancusp.com/2015/08/listen-janelle-monae-releases-new-song-about-u-s-state-violence/ via @UrbanCusp

  55. 55.

    goblue72

    August 13, 2015 at 4:17 pm

    @Betty Cracker: No kidding. Her twitter feed is a cesspool of the worst RWNJ garbage.

  56. 56.

    gbear

    August 13, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    Lunch today was a cafeteria grilled cheese sandwich and chicken/shell pasta salad, with an Abdallah Green Angel Mint candy bar for desert.

    I’m 10 days in to quitting Diet Coke and I’m getting used to water but still trying to find a good flavored soda water without aspartame. The cafeteria has Dasani (still an evil Coke product) and the berry and black cherry flavors aren’t bad. I only have one of those a day, and I still have my Mocha Frappucino in the morning (I’m less worried about caffeine than all the other crap in DC). I marked the start date on my calendar so I can already think of it as an anniversary if I stay with it. The headaches have been minor but still a daily thing, but my body feels like someone has been hammering me with a 2×4.

  57. 57.

    Debbie

    August 13, 2015 at 4:20 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    I’ve read plenty of books I thought were too long (looking at you, Franzen), but Goldfinch isn’t one of them. Different strokes, as they say.

  58. 58.

    scav

    August 13, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Thanks Amir. He is rather sounding an individual you’ld like to see bounce for multiple related reasons.

  59. 59.

    Betty Cracker

    August 13, 2015 at 4:23 pm

    @Debbie: Different strokes, indeed: I thought Freedom was great and not at all too long! Many people disagreed, some of whom raved about Goldfinch!

  60. 60.

    SFAW

    August 13, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    I could not read that book. The pace was glacial.

    I heard its original title (en francais) was “A la Recherche du Oiseaux Perdu,” but that may just be folklore.

  61. 61.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 4:27 pm

    @dedc79: 60% electoral participation is feature-not-bug for them: in fact for Those People that ratio is in its way enshrined in the Constitution. The Reichwing is still POd that Some People have more than 3/5 vote and they’re doing their d#mndest to ensure that if they can’t have that then they can at least ensure that only 3/5 of Those People exercise the franchise. It’s one facet of the ugly side of Tentherism that they refuse to talk about.

  62. 62.

    Debbie

    August 13, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    That is funny. For me, I could relate to NYC, art, antiques, etc., so the length wasn’t an issue. On the other side, I found Franzen’s characters too self-centered to care about.

  63. 63.

    lymie

    August 13, 2015 at 4:35 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: @Hilary_Knight We have met her, and she is very nice.

  64. 64.

    lymie

    August 13, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Is the book published, yet?

  65. 65.

    shell

    August 13, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    LOVED this. Women tweeting on hashtag periodsarenotaninsult in reaction to Trumps charming “from her whatever” insult

    @realDonaldTrump — on the third day of my period AND still a functioning member of society! Who knew?!”
    @realDonaldTrump Just finished menstruating. I still don’t like you. Guess it had nothing to do w/ my period,”

    @realDonaldTrump I’m getting my period this week. I’ll make sure to keep you updated,

    @realDonaldTrump Its called a vagina and you came out of one, thanks to her period! #periodsarenotaninsult oops!

  66. 66.

    Amir Khalid

    August 13, 2015 at 4:42 pm

    @scav:
    According to employment lawyers quoted by The Guardian and The Daily Mail, Mourinho has exposed Chelsea FC to a risk of being sued for constructive dismissal by Dr Carneiro and first-team physio Jon Fearn. Given that their actions have been defended in the strongest terms by their professional peers, it would seem they have an iron-clad case against the club and Mourinho.

  67. 67.

    No One of Consequence

    August 13, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    Been trying to read a lot since yesterday, when foolishly, I posted about the Seattle disruption from (maybe?) BLM protestor, and how I thought it was an unsound tactic.

    Shortly thereafter, I was lovingly educated by a few patient and kind BJ souls (whose permission to post I did not seek today before putting this here).

    Today, I think I have a much better understanding, though I am sure it is just my privilege feeding my ego a false narrative.

    So, rather than attempt to engage, I thought I might post a thank you.

    Thank you Mrs. Connor for educating me in the 4th and 5th grade. You were my first African American teacher. At first, you thought I was questioning your authority as heading the class, when I was just bored. Then, you took a different tack, and gave me the normal tests in advance, and had me study other things. The one I will forever remember and be thankful for was for Black History Month. As a young No One, I had no idea about the people and trials and tribulations that my background left me sadly ignorant of.

    Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglas, George Washington Carver, Thurgood Marshall, and on and on.

    You opened my eyes Mrs. Connor, and they might never have been, were it not for you. I am glad we became good friends, and I am glad that you gave me a chance to prove to you that I just wanted to learn. I want you to know that I value that time, and those lessons deeply.

    It is my sincere wish that others get to experience something similar to what I had. That some greater understanding can be achieved when we look past what might otherwise prevent contact. I have tried to learn from that lesson. And I am still learning.

    Peace,

    – NOoC

  68. 68.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Interesting Benen read-and-graph over at Maddowblog. POTUS’ job-creating mojo looks at least as good as Saint Ronnie’s.

  69. 69.

    Calouste

    August 13, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    @boatboy_srq: The right-wing seems to have the same problems with the concept of “choice” as they seem to have with the concept of “consent”. Most likely they being the authoritarians that they are, have a problem with the whole concept of “free will”, specially when it applies to others.

  70. 70.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    August 13, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    @lymie: Not yet. I’m hoping by the end of the year, though my editor has gone awfully damned quiet on when I’ll get the latest draft back from her. The first half is close to done. The second half needs at least a line editing pass. Then I need to polish the whole thing and have it copy edited.

    I’m working on various marketing things while I’m waiting to get it back. That mostly involves trying to line up some endorsements and finding places that will review it. A lot of review bloggers won’t work with anything except a finished ebook version and insist on having an Amazon page, which pretty much means only post-publication reviews. I’m really looking for some places that might do something as soon as I have the manuscript ready so that I can have reviews when it comes out.

    And I’ve heard nothing but good things about Hillary Knight, but, you know, I’m a Gopher fan.

  71. 71.

    boatboy_srq

    August 13, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    @Calouste: True. But in the anti-choice sphere it seems somehow different. There’s a binary nature to the argument: “pro-life” wants to prohibit abortions, therefore to them “pro-choice” is an effort to mandate aborting all pregnancies. The idea that pro-choice is merely making the option available, and that birth is the norm rather than a prohibited outcome, simply does not occur to (at least some of) them. It does play to the “women submit to your husbands” stance, and it clearly does not allow for a woman’s free will or ability to make rational decisions for her own best interest, which is I think where you’re going with this; but the construct required to maintain that – namely the humongous “abortion industry” they are persuaded exists – is one of the biggest hugely-impractical constructs required to support Reichwing social theory.

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    lymie

    August 13, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: We like her because her family spent some time up here and she WENT TO CHOATE, go Boars!

  73. 73.

    Sasha

    August 13, 2015 at 5:09 pm

    Another response to making a sandwich.

  74. 74.

    burnt

    August 13, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    @The Other Chuck: Your wish is my command: xkcd.com/149/

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    August 13, 2015 at 5:34 pm

    Good afternoon, all.

    Cacti reports that Senator Jon Tester of Montana has come out in support of the Iran deal. Unequivocal statement by him in this news item (which, unfortunately, I can’t excerpt from).

    Here are Senator Tester’s office numbers, if you’d like to call in thanks.

  76. 76.

    Elizabelle

    August 13, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    The fellating begins: NY Times website, front page: Kasich’s Moderation Draws Support in New Hampshire

    Not linking. Le sigh.

  77. 77.

    Debbie

    August 13, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Good for Tester. But his crack about going into Iran alone like we did in Iraq is going to come back and bite him in the ass.

  78. 78.

    bystander

    August 13, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    What was for lunch? Shake shack’s new (at least to me) Roadside Shack burger. Melted cheese and carmelized onions. It was great! Thanks for asking.

  79. 79.

    Bex

    August 13, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    @Tissue Thin Pseudonym: Try Anne Lamott.

  80. 80.

    g

    August 13, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    Dammit

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