Here's your gift basket with coupons to the local merchants! pic.twitter.com/iHXuQu8rvN
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) September 5, 2015
Okay, I laughed. Useful background, from James Higdon in the Washington Post — “In Kentucky college town, license issue divides gay and church communities“:
MOREHEAD, Ky. — Square in the middle of embattled Rowan County is this college town in the Appalachian foothills — home to Morehead State University, a population that swells by 10,000 with the start of each school year, and an active LGBT community.
Beyond the city limits, nearly two-thirds of the county is protected wilderness inside the Daniel Boone National Forest. Small, tightknit communities carry on an Appalachian tradition that has largely resisted change for decades, including followers of the Apostolic Christian faith.
For years, gay members of the university community and Apostolic Christians have tip-toed around each other.
But the Supreme Court’s decision in June in favor of same-sex marriage made a collision perhaps inevitable, as the only thing standing in the way of gays who wanted to marry was the signature of Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis, a member of the Apostolic Church. Her refusal to sign the marriage licenses since June has landed her in jail for contempt of a federal court. Her case is on appeal…
Davis’s backers in Rowan County have characterized the university as an outside force, a troublemaking interloper.
“This community isn’t divided. This community is united,” said Pastor Randy Smith, a supporter of Kim Davis. “The division comes — no disrespect — from Morehead State University.”
But Wayne Andrews, president of Morehead State University, disagreed: “I don’t think this issue is dividing our community.”
In a statement to the Morehead News, he said, “We believe elected officials should obey the law and do their jobs.” Many here agree, and not just those connected to the university.
Andrews has been Morehead’s president since 2005, and during that time the school has consistently ranked among the top public universities in the South by U.S. News & World Report. The university has been racially integrated since 1954 and LGBT-friendly for decades…
Rowan County has diversified its economy more than most Appalachian counties, but still, some of the best jobs are offered by the government. Davis’s mother, Jean Bailey, was county clerk for 37 years, and Davis was her deputy for 27 of them. Now, Davis employs her son, Nathan Davis, as a deputy. Rowan County allows such nepotism because keeping good jobs in the family is an Appalachian tradition.
Davis narrowly won a three-way Democratic primary in 2014. She cruised to victory in the general election, before same-sex marriage was on the radar, and many supporters of LGBT rights voted for her in November because she was the Democratic candidate…
Once you look past the tweets and subheds, it’s seldom quite as simple as “Four legs good, two legs baaaad.” On the other hand, this is just pathetic, and bathetic…
Kim Davis writes from jail: "I think of what Rosa Parks must have felt. She had it easy, let me tell you." https://t.co/aR8FG3WVB8
— Liam Stack (@liamstack) September 6, 2015
Letter From A Carter County Jail. #KimDavis #FreeKimDavis #MLKim pic.twitter.com/dM0KCqA0wm
— Kim Davis (@kimdavis917) September 5, 2015
ETA: Commentor Vixen Strangely informs me that this is a parody account. So, while Mike Huckabee and the current Mr. Kim Davis have used the Rosa Parks comparison, Ms. Davis has not personally compared herself to MLK. (And getting the strike-thru function to work within the tweet-blocks is apparently beyond my technical skill, but I don’t want to take the text out entirely.)
SiubhanDuinne
How dare she.
Vixen Strangely
Err… those last bits were from a parody account that everyone, including me, fell for. (And I deleted a blog post it took like, 40 mins to write so). Poe’s Law entirely, though. Rep Steve King and Mike Huckabee are pretty sure she’s like if Rosa Parks and MLK had a baby.
AnderJ
Jep, it’s hard out there for a Christian!
SiubhanDuinne
@SiubhanDuinne:
@Vixen Strangely:
Oh. Okay. Never mind, then.
Trentrunner
A civilized, secular society has no business accommodating superstitions, however institutionalized and “traditional.”
Ever.
SoupCatcher
Here’s my caption for the forlorn-looking man on the left: “I thought we were going somewhere with candlelight.”
Still trying to decide if Droopy voice and sad trombone would be too much.
Luthe
Once again, Edjumacation CORRUPTS Our Childrun n’ DESTROYS Our Val-yoos!!!
SFAW
@Vixen Strangely:
I hear Unclueable Kimmy Davis – or at least her fundamentalism – has a ton of support in certain areas of Iraq and Syria, maybe Stevie and Huck can hold a rally there?
Vixen Strangely
@SFAW: I’m sure they would gather some kind of crowd.
SFAW
@Vixen Strangely:
That would be my hope.
It would be like killing two turds with one stone.
MattF
@Vixen Strangely: It is odd, though, the way these guys admire left-wing activists. I suppose it’s possible that they’re just trying to piss off the libtards– but it does seem like they mean it.
Vixen Strangely
@MattF: I think that’s directly the case–I’ve seen some wingers on Twitter say “Well, actually, she’s a registered Democrat.”
As if the reasonable liberal reply would be, “Oh. Okay then.”
namekarB
“Je suis Kim Davis” said the Muslim county clerk who refused to issue a licence for a business to sell alcohol and the Jewish FDA inspector who would not step foot on hog farms
Luthe
I appear to have a comment stuck in FYWP hell. Please help.
Keith G
I love it when folks get goofed by Twitter. Come on peeps…..it’s…..Twitter.
Roger Moore
@MattF:
They don’t actually admire them. They just know that those activists are very popular and respected, so they’re trying to steal a little reflected glory by pretending to admire and follow after them.
Belafon
@MattF:
I’ll give them credit for acknowledging (even if it’s only public, I suspect the things they say in private are not printable) that MLK and Rosa Parks did a good thing. But they have no clue what the good thing actual was, other people just keep saying it was. So, I’ll take my credit back.
Belafon
@Keith G: It’s twitter, the only way we would have gotten information from Ferguson or Baltimore, or any of those other videos.
Edit: The point is that it’s not always easy to figure out what’s real, and it would be very tiring (and way too cynical) to assume that something is fiction. Take Bryan Fischer for instance. All to real.
Anne Laurie
@Vixen Strangely: Thanks for letting me know!
Southern Goth
It occurred to me that for fundamentalists a marriage license = fucking license.
Think about that.
Frankensteinbeck
@Vixen Strangely:
And now that we know the kind of shit she’s up to, we don’t want her.
FortGeek
How ’bout this fella, who thinks she should run for president!
…Why, Hoss? So she can refuse to do her job for 3,143 counties instead of just one?
Granted, with some 9 months in office as chief clerk and a couple decades there working for her mother, she’s got plenty of experience and more time in public office than many of the current goppers. She’s a fundie, so she’ll fit right in. But she’s a Democrat! Horrors!
debbie
@namekarB:
Even better would be a Quaker county clerk refusing to issue hunting licenses.
SiubhanDuinne
@SFAW:
Internets. Won.
RSA
Wikipedia has it that Morehead, under different names but as an educational institution, goes back to 1887. It’s been there longer than anyone alive.
And speaking of education, I was half-thinking that the photo was a fake. What are the odds of no misspellings on a Tea Party sign? But there remains the issue of uppercase versus lowercase letters…
MattF
@RSA: Yeah, and they probably couldn’t describe the difference between sodomy and gommorahmy anyhow.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne:
Siubhan my dear –
Thanks very much for your kindness, but methinks your standards have dropped. It was an OK line, that’s all.
Apropos of nothing in particular – you heading to MA anytime soon?
SiubhanDuinne
@RSA:
I have an odd (and basically pointless) ability to read upside-down and backwards, so when I saw that SOdOM my trick brain immediately reversed it, flipped it, and made it WOPOS.
SFAW
@RSA:
I don’t know – efgoldman keeps talking about how old he is ….
SFAW
@MattF:
Norm Crosby, 1971?
SiubhanDuinne
@SFAW:
Maybe I should have specified, Won for the day (not the year, or even the week). But it made me laugh.
I was in MA very briefly, with time totally spoken for, unfortunately, for a couple of days in July. Plan is to return next April for a slightly longer visit. My friend gives what I am told is a unique, memorable, and altogether wonderful Seder, and I think a Springtime drive north would be a lovely experience anyhow. So that, tentatively, is the plan, and I’ll plan to stay long enough to get in some good meet-ups.
kc
According to the link you posted @KimDavis917 is NOT a parody account.
evodevo
I don’t know about being gay-friendly – at least until the aughts – but my husband graduated from MSU in the 60’s, when it was still just Morehead State College (it was Morehead State TEACHERS’ College until the 40’s and wasn’t a “university” until 1966). He had at least one closeted gay prof (everyone knew he was gay, but no one came out in those days), but it was a VERY conservative place. Most of the students came from Appalachian communities, and everyone except the New Yawkers and the foreign students went back home EVERY weekend. The county was dry in those days and so was the city (it’s now wet), so there were no bars or restaurants that served alcohol. You either went to the bootlegger’s (“drive-in” liquor window – long story) or to Lexington to party. That the Rowan clerk is both Pentecostal and Democratic is no surprise, as is her sense of Xtian martyrdom. Most of the mountain communities are that way. A secular democracy is absolutely foreign to them and Fox News is their chief source of info. Very contradictory, I know, but this is what I have observed for 50 years.
Roger Moore
@RSA:
That doesn’t mean they don’t have town vs. gown problems. To the non-university locals, the people at the university will always be outsiders who are coming into their place and changing things.
SFAW
@SiubhanDuinne:
Yes, I figured that. Still being too generous toward me, but I’m glad you laughed.
April? OK!
Mike Jones
@RSA: But, you know, all the internet supporters of Davis and the outside lawyers helping her put on her little morality play aren’t “outside agitators” at all. Sometimes I think the Mormons have the right idea in that people should have to spend at least a couple of years outside of the place they grew up.
Full metal Wingnut
The university that’s been there since 1887? Before all of them were born? Before there daddies or even granddaddies were born. Lol. Ok.
SiubhanDuinne
@SFAW:
It’ll be here before you know it!
Keith P.
They’re an adorable couple, and I support their right to live in whatever town they want to.
Full metal Wingnut
@Roger Moore: As someone from a small town, I am generally inclined to see town vs. gown issues from a townie’s perspective.
That being said, the townies aren’t complaining about drunken students causing a ruckus or anything else I would sympathize with (I supported restrictive zoning laws to help keep drunk college idiots out of nice family neighborhoods). They seem to be complaining about “cultural issues.” Perfessors and college students lean more liberal, so I guess many in the “gown” crowd are trying to shove the radical idea that gays are people deserving of equal protection under the law down their throats. No sympathy from this townie (albeit from upstate New York).
That being said, while drunken entitled rich college kids could be obnoxious, the local college did inject a lot of jobs and dollars into the local economy. And was responsible for enough interesting lectures and concerts for me not to blow my brains out. Living near a nice college can be pretty nice.
joel hanes
If only I were on the scene in Rowan County.
I could wear a keffiyeh and my beard and protest holding the sign :
“THANKS KIM DAVIS FOR UPHOLDING SHARIA LAW”
RSA
@SiubhanDuinne:
This made me laugh out loud. I hope it’s not a handicap.
@Roger Moore:
That sounds right to me. I saw the same thing at UMass (founded in 1863), with the battles between the salt-of-the-earth and the ivory-tower-elites. Speaking of which, isn’t Breaking Away one of Cole’s favorite movies?
ETA: I forgot to mention what I think of as a perfect encapsulation of town versus gown: Northampton, right next to Amherst and home to Smith College, had two competing nicknames while I was there in the 1990s. The college people, nutty crunchies, and women in comfortable shoes tended to call it “NoHo”, while the farmers and parents of kids on the high school baseball team called it “Hamp”.
bk
@Full metal Wingnut:
Chapel Hill.
Full metal Wingnut
@bk: You live in chapel hill? Nice. I have a friend who works there. I’m in NJ now-I’d love some of that cheaper rent
Cervantes
@Roger Moore:
Yes. The current president is, and the previous two were, from out of state, presiding for a total of nearly three decades.
Worse, the current president is from Massachusetts.
J R in WV
@SiubhanDuinne:
No, no, that was a very necessary part of being a printer back in the hot-type days, when the type was upside down and backwards, so that the printed words would be right-side up and frontwards. Beginners would use a little hand mirror to read the lead type until they got the hang of upside-down and backwards.
I was a compositor for a newspaper for the last couple of years before they went cold-type and computerized, and I just was getting the hang of it there at the end. I’m not sure why I was so interested in picking up a skilled craft that was becoming extinct, but I went on to master plowing with a horse after I got out of the hot-type printing craft.
So don’t call that gift useless, just a little outdated and historically classic. There are still hot-type printing shops around, sort of historic craftsmen, but mostly it’s all computerized now.
maya
Do they have an Apostolic Anonymous in Rowan County, Ky?
Ruckus
@SFAW:
efgoldman and I were born in the same half of the same decade, so I’ll take the same amount of umbrage he does.
Robert Sneddon
@Vixen Strangely:
A good guiding principle in life is to assume that anything purporting to be some particular person’s utterances on Farcebook or Twitr is parody, lies, made up shit and not to be taken seriously. This includes real utterances by real people too (see, as a worked example, The Real Donald Trump). It’s Farcebook, it’s Twitr, it’s not meant to be taken seriously.
SiubhanDuinne
@RSA:
No, not a handicap at all (and I admit, there have been occasions in my life when the ability to read upside-down has been an asset). Mostly, though, just kind of stupid and meaningless.
Patricia Kayden
Wonder how long Ms. Davis is going to waste time in jail. Same sex couples are now being issued marriage licenses in Rowan County, so she’s completely lost her personal battle against gay marriage. The gig is up. She needs to resign her position and go home and get a job in a more bigot-friendly arena.
Davis’ supporters appear to be resigned to her fate. I guess they’ve figured out that Davis is just not a sympathetic character and many people find her “cause” to be odious, to say the least. When you’ve lost the likes of Ben Carson and Donald Trump, it’s time to move on.
mashable.com/2015/09/03/2016-candidates-kim-davis-decision/
SiubhanDuinne
@SFAW:
Oh spit. efgoldman is a baby. A baby.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Excellent! I’ll plan a visit with you and Mrs. efg.
J R in WV
My Alma Mater, dear old Marshall University, used to play Morehead State every year, in B-Ball and Football. Not so much anymore, as MU has been striving to compete at a higher level than the other local colleges manage, mostly.
I never knew how hard those students had it. I stayed in Berea once, home of Berea College, which was dry. We drove to the county line, with directions from a nice clerk to the nearest “wet” spot the students used to get “adult” drinks. It took a little gas and 45 minutes or so, no big deal. But we had a truck!
SiubhanDuinne
@J R in WV:
Very cool. I think I must have known all that, but many thanks for pulling it all together. I was obviously born too late.
I wish you and yours a peaceful etaoin shrdlu.
SFAW
@efgoldman:
Not if my Hoveround is faster than you in your walker, gramps.
@efgoldman:
Did I miss something (more than the usual, that is) – are you thinking of leaving sunny Vo Dilun?
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
You’re assuming that a creaky, feeble old lady like me can even raise the hand sufficiently to administer an upside-the-head slap.
Steeplejack (phone)
@SoupCatcher:
Win.
SFAW
@Ruckus:
I used to take umbrage three times a day, but found it was upsetting my delicate constitution. Wait … not umbrage … what was that word … oh yeah: hallucinogens.
Anyway, if I ever knew you were that approx age, I had forgotten (being an old fart meself), so, sorry about that
DonDavesirSFAW
@efgoldman:
Oy. (For me, not you.)
raven
@J R in WV: A high school girlfriend of mine worked at Berea for many years. She is married to an econ prof from there.
RSA
@efgoldman:
Oops. You’re right. As a grad student at the time, I got kind of a skewed view of the place: easily top 25 in the U.S. for computer science and top 10 in the specialty area I was studying. But it was still Zoo Mass.
Steeplejack (phone)
@RSA:
Also, let’s imagine how much (more) of a shithole Rowan County would be without the college and all those kids’ sweet, sweet “outsider” money.
jake the antisoshul soshulist
The attempt to co-opt MLK and Rosa Parks are relatively new. I can remember my sister saying the MLK should have gotten the Nobel War Prize rather than Peace Prize. In my hometown, the local powers that be got the local bootleggers to quash any possible civil rights protests. I think they were convinced that an upset in the status quo would not benefit them.
Bootleggers were some of the more well-to-do, and surprisingly influential in the African-American community. Without knowing for certain I suspect they provided a lot of the donations to the local Black Churches, As a side note, when a long-time local lawyer and judge (and one of the wealthiest citizens) died, two of the well known African American bootleggers were pallbearers at his funeral.
raven
@jake the antisoshul soshulist: Chalky White
Lee Rudolph
@FortGeek:
Come to that, by now she’s had more time in jail than most of them, more’s the pity.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Well, I just realized that almost as soon as I’ve finished the late-April trip to Boston, I’ll be heading to Phoenix for my grand-niece’s high school graduation. As long as both I and the car are up to the challenge.
But apart from the upcoming Chicago (family reunion) trip, I don’t anticipate any other long road trips until next spring, so should be okay.
delk
The guy with the sign is her husband Joe the Dumber.
rikyrah
THE THEFT OF A BLACK BAPTIST CHURCH IN GENTRIFIED RIP CITY: AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORT (PART 1 OF 5)
By Daniel Forbes
August 31, 2015
Swindled Church Nets White Baptists Big Bucks
PORTLAND, OREGON — There are ways to sell a church property legally, procedures dictated by state law and church bylaws. Typically, they require a formal vote by the congregation.
A phone call is not one of them. A simple call from a newly installed white trustee of an inner Northeast Portland, Oregon African-American church does not suffice. A call to the white secretary of a local affiliate of the giant Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) doesn’t hold water, either. And finally, a phone call to transfer ownership of a church adds insult to injury when the church’s founding pastor–Rev. Percy N. Manuel, an African-American whose indomitable will kept Mt. Zion Baptist Church afloat for 17 years–is barely cold in the ground.
Yet Sharon Stone, the new trustee who’d seized Mt. Zion’s frayed reins with a sure grip, phoned Lila O’Banion, the secretary of the Interstate Baptist Association (IBA), a 70-church, metro-Portland affiliate of the SBC. “I called Lila and said Percy wanted it to go to Interstate, and Lila took care of it from there,” said Stone.
Stone added, “I let Lila know—Lila took care of it.” She continued, “I let Lila know that Percy wanted to protect the church and have IBA own it. Lila said she’d take care of it.”
atticusreview.org/the-theft-of-a-black-baptist-church-in-rip-city-an-investigative-report-part-1-of-…
SiubhanDuinne
@delk:
:-)
Amir Khalid
@rikyrah:
Sharon Stone was never one of my favourite actresses, but I am disappointed n her nonetheless.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@RSA: I read that the original sign had the spellings corrected after original display, but I’m unable to recall where I read that, and too lazy to look for it.
Aleta
@J R in WV:
When you give that up there’s always flintknapping.
redshirt
The tension between townies and college kids is part of the fun!
I’ve been both. When I was a townie I took the war to them. Literally.
Mike in NC
@delk: Saw him on TV. Looked like a guy who puts away a case of beer every night, to judge from the enormous gut hanging over his belt.
Debbie
@jake the antisoshul soshulist:
I don’t know, I think Glenn Beck’s compared himself to MLK for nearly a year now.
redshirt
@efgoldman: Fido was kill or be killed. It worked out fine!
Aleta
@efgoldman:
Because you enjoy arrowing experiences?
J R in WV
@efgoldman:
Pretty sure they were getting the actual numbers from a wall street group, and setting it using an automated Linotype, which is how most of the copy was set at the newspaper I worked at.
We hand set corrections, and had to lay out the pages by hand, and insert corrections, which was interesting. My Grandpa was taught to set type by hand in about 1910, and worked at newspapers from West Virginia to New Mexico Territory until he returned to WV to marry his sweety, my Grandma Katherine.
I have a letter he sent her before the were married, she had evidently fussed at him in a precious letter, and he told her to settle down until he could come back to WVa and they could talk. It must have worked out, here I am….
My family has always been a little – odd, and I suppose it must have been because of the lead, Grandpa was far from the first generation of the family to work in the printing business – at least 2 or 3 generations before him were publishing newspapers in the frontier settlements.
Aleta
@efgoldman:
Archery will get you nowhere.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Do Tell.
redshirt
@efgoldman:
Checkmate!
Aleta
@efgoldman:
Before you do, consider the drawbacks to inebriation.
benw
@efgoldman: I have target a drink, myself.
dance around in your bones
Re: the previous post and this one makes it clear that being wary of recent converts is a wise attitude. Nothing like the recent convert who’s still shaky about their conversion to triple down on the recent interpretation mania.
RIM for short. Beware the RIMbos.
SiubhanDuinne
@efgoldman:
Nock, nock.
SiubhanDuinne
@redshirt:
You chess can’t help yourself, can you?
J R in WV
@Aleta:
I wish I knew how to do that, I’m a rock/mineral collector from way back. KY and IN and OH are all great places to collect minerals, fossils, rocks of all kinds. My rock collecting partner was so big into finding ancient points and blades, I could go first, and he would come behind me and ID 10 times as many worked stone tools as I could.
I have Flint Ridge material, but I’m not going to try to work it unless I get top level coaching and practice. Not an easy thing to do.
Aleta
@efgoldman:
No, no ! I’m all aquiver !!
Benw
@SiubhanDuinne: not this late at knight, he can’t.
SiubhanDuinne
@Benw:
Upawn my word, I think you’re right.
redshirt
@J R in WV: There are some college programs that offer what we think to be legitimate flintnapping. There’s a guy – maybe in England? – who’d dedicated his professional life to perfecting ancient tool making techniques. It’s interesting stuff, because of course we have no idea and have to guess at how they did things back then.
It’s simply, absolutely incredible our entire species has only been here on this great Earth for approximately 100,000 years and only writing stuff down in the last 5,000.
J R in WV
@efgoldman:
Things like box scores and stock prices were automated, fancy-looking publishing is to this day done by hand in top end shops.
We hand set headlines and many advertisements, but the body of most everything was keyed into paper tape, which then ran through a very early computer to justify it to a specific column width. Then that justified output tape was used to run a Linotype, with a couple of guys watching a dozen machines. That was how I started, then I graduated to setting corrections, then I got to insert the corrections into pages of type.
People laugh, but it was complex, hard work, resulting in news pages that were dumped after the press run and shoveled into a melt furnace to be reused the next day for an afternoon edition. I worked on the night shift printing the morning newspaper.
My neighbor works at a larger publication as a copy desk editor, and twice has found an error severe enough for him to run into the press room, with a giant 3 story machine running 30K impressions/hour and shout “STOP THE PRESS!” That is a real responsibility right there! Bells ringing, huge motors slamming to off-line. All to fix a stupid error that could have lead to ridicule. Or even perhaps a lawsuit if the wrong person was held up to ridicule.
I never worked in the press room, but I’ve done everything else in printing a hot-type newspaper from writing the story to setting the type to building a page in lead cast type. Antique, but fascinating technology, from not that long ago.
Aleta
@J R in WV: Even the Paleoindians discarded a lot of imperfect tries. As I understand it, they also would quarry blanks to carry along with them, to work on later.
J R in WV
@efgoldman:
This punnery is amazing, and will get you a free drink anywhere I am ever drinking and you come into the bar.
OT: But I was amazed to see that the word for BAR in Spain (and France too I think) is actually BAR!!
But their food was a lot better than the snacks in most American Bars. Amazing food! Even out in the country, the lunch laid on by the bars was amazing good food. Planning to go back asap.
SiubhanDuinne
@J R in WV:
If you never have, you might enjoy reading MURDER MUST ADVERTISE by Dorothy L. Sayers. It is set in a London advertising agency in about 1930, and there is at least one lengthy and memorable scene that is essentially a “stop-the-presses” episode. One of my favourite books, and of particular interest to anyone who has ever worked in one of the related crafts.
PurpleGirl
To those BJers talking about composition/typesetting: The apartment complex I live in is Big Six Towers. (It has 7 building, btw.) It was originally sponsored by Local 6 of the International Typographers Union. Some people say “printers” and I correct them, “no, typographers — the guys who set the type.” Local 6 was nicknamed “The Big Six.”
J R in WV
@Aleta:
Yes, I believe so. In a locale where they were living most of the year, there were drifts of chips where the “professional” knappers sat to work. Many of them were later used as scrapers or knives used to process game.
My collecting buddy could see the smallest chip of flint protruding from the dirt in a plowed field, and often picked up a long spear point or arrowhead when grabbing a 1/4 inch chip that was all that showed.
He would work in a farmer’s field in the fall, helping to harvest tobacco, which is labor intensive, and ask only that he be allowed to walk the field the next spring looking for artifacts. He could tell where the cooking fires were, where the pottery was heated, where the houses were, just from the color of the dirt a thousand years later. An autodidact, Danny was extremely talented in many ways, especially in how the indigenous people lived in the wooded mountains of eastern America.
I suspect he would have gotten in a lot of trouble if he had ever gone out west where the rules are more strictly enforced than they are in the east. He’s in a nursing home now with dementia. I don’t field collect much any more without him. Maybe once my shoulders are rehabbed I’ll get back into it. I was more into minerals than artifacts, myself.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@dance around in your bones: Howdy! Been missing you, and sorry to hear of the (not fun) recent chaos.
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
Dan Savage interview with “KimDavis917”
Cheers,
Scott.
J R in WV
@SiubhanDuinne:
Thanks for the tip. I’ve read many of Dorothy Sayers’s work and enjoyed it, but I don’t recall a “stop the press” moment, so that may be a new one to me.
Thanks!
@PurpleGirl:
So interesting, and that there are 7 towers in Big Six. Obviously the name is from the Typographers Local Number, not the number of big towers in Big Six. All political printed material (at least for Democrats!) will have the union bug imprint, even to this day. For which I’m grateful!
Without unions we would be worked to death in a few short years of 7 12 hour shifts a week. If people only knew the history the Republicans wouldn’t get the votes they do.
I’ll pass that on to the Mrs J, who is the former union officer. I was a member, kind of, as a government employee there couldn’t be a contract, but I could have union reps assist in a civil service appeal if needed. Fortunately I never had that kind of disagreement with a manager, but it always felt good knowing that there were civil service rules management had to follow if they wanted to attempt to discipline me in any way.
Aleta
@J R in WV:
I imagine those were very sociable gatherings, with cheerful rhythms and ringing sounds filling the air. My former boss was a flintknapper, and hosted some international conferences that drew others with that sideline. They would sit around outside together at lunch and you could close your eyes and listen back in time.
Mike G
Kim Davis is Rosa Parks.
If Rosa Parks was the bus driver, who refused to drive routes through white neighborhoods but still demanded to get paid.
And had previously crashed three buses.
redshirt
@Aleta: I imagine sociability was much higher back then, because what else did you have? Without other people, you had no entertainment.
Now a days (human beings these days!) you can easily simulate sociability via electronic entertainment sources – tv, radio, internet, etc.
Anne Laurie
@dance around in your bones: Good point. And welcome back, lady!
joel hanes
@SiubhanDuinne:
MURDER MUST ADVERTISE by Dorothy L. Sayers.
The best place to start in the Wimsey books.
Arclite
As for those fat fucks I would say, “HAVE ANOTHER DOUGHNUT!”
B
@MattF: ” It is odd, though, the way these guys admire left-wing activists.”
They hate left-wing activists. The *love* the caricatures of dead left-wing activists.
AMinNC
@bk: Carrboro
drkrick
@debbie:
Quaker’s aren’t vegetarians and don’t have any objections to hunting. A Quaker draft board member blocking inductions would be more on point.
Another Holocene Human
@RSA: Amherst is sooooo salt of the earth. Have you seen the real estate prices there?
Now, Chicopee, that’s blue collar. And well out of walking distance.
Note: UMass undergrads trend Boston MSA blue collar and white, not that there isn’t diversity because there is. A lot of Irish names with Boston home addresses getting nailed in underage DUI roundups.
Another Holocene Human
@efgoldman: More of a poured concrete edifice, actually.
mclaren
So explain this: why is it called “sodomy” and not “gomorrahmy”?
I think we need to start some protests to give Gomorrah its rightful place in history!
UP WITH GOMORRAHMY. Those are the protest signs we need.
YOU NEED TO FIGHT
FOR THE RIGHT
TO GOMORRAHMY!
mclaren
@Patricia Kayden:
Wouldn’t it be delightful if Ms. Davis had a cellmate called Large Marge? With a thing for plump fundamentalist Christians…?