Rosh Hashanah begins at sunset this evening:
Rosh Hashanah is the beginning of the new year on the Hebrew calendar, and is celebrated among the Jewish faith as the start of the High Holy Days. The words “Rosh Hashanah” translate into “head of the year.”…
According to custom, Rosh Hashanah is the day when God opens the books of judgment. Those who are virtuous have their names recorded in the book of life, and those who are not have their names blotted out. Those who are in between have the ten days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur to atone for their sins.
Rosh Hashanah is usually commemorated by dinner with family, reflection, prayer and service at a synagogue.
Customs associated with Rosh Hashanah include the blowing of the shofar, a horn made from a ram’s horn, and eating sweet foods, particularly apples dipped in honey, in the hope of ushering in a sweet year. Challah, a circular bread, is also frequently eaten, as it symbolizes the circle of life…
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It does seem like a good time to discard old bad habits and start over, doesn’t it?
Apart from that, what’s on the agenda as we wrap up the weekend?
redshirt
Fantasy Football has my head spinning.
Fantasy Football is my religion FYI.
Schlemazel
@redshirt:
Coincidentally, actual football has many ex-players heads spinning for the rest of their lives
A gut yor. שָׁנָה טוֹבָה
satby
Shana Tova to all!
Omnes Omnibus
What about those of us who have no bad habits?
I guess we could stop with the lies.
redshirt
@Schlemazel: Boxing too. Many baseball and soccer players, rugby, crickett….. concussions are part of sports. The goal should be to reduce them.
Ultimate fighting and the like go against this as a trend.
Schlemazel
@redshirt:
No doubt.
dmsilev
@Omnes Omnibus: Let me guess: your biggest weak spot is your unjustified self-effacing modesty?
Omnes Omnibus
@dmsilev: I don’t like to toot my own horn.
benw
@Omnes Omnibus:
And the cocaine.
Omnes Omnibus
@benw: Okay, and the pills.
Baud
Is being snarky a bad habit?
@Omnes Omnibus:
I also prefer it when others toot my horn.
benw
@Omnes Omnibus: No, I gotta mix the pills with booze to blunt the crash when I come down off the heroin.
JPL
Not saying who but someone is going to have their name blotted out
According to custom, Rosh Hashanah is the day when God opens the books of judgment. Those who are virtuous have their names recorded in the book of life, and those who are not have their names blotted out.
Baud
@JPL: Are you God?
JPL
@Baud: Which one?
Baud
@JPL:
All of them, Katie?
Keith G
I was hoping the the song would be this Starting Over
Redshift
I’m going to a talk about Pluto by one of the New Horizons investigators. Should be very cool!
Jay C
By this list, we’re 0 for 7 so far. Well, at least we have another 8 days til the Day Of Atonement, when we can hope to avoid this year’s Bad Jew Award….
L’Shanah Tovah, all…..
redshirt
@benw:
I picked the wrong day to quit huffing silver spraypaint.
Witness me!
benw
@redshirt:
Why? What happened? Did you run out of pills?
Heliopause
@Jay C:
Funny, most Christian holidays are commemorated by drinking, partying, family fights, watching violent sports on TV, and purchase of expensive consumer goods. Easter is the only one taken semi-seriously, but only semi.
Betty Cracker
A cold front came through and the temperature dropped to 82! Also, I’m not voluntarily watching the Bucs because they were stupid and classless enough to throw their #1 pick away on Jame-ass Winston. However, I’m at a gathering where the game on. Can’t help but notice it’s not going well!
redshirt
@Heliopause: Even long ago, taking Easter seriously meant candy hunts for kids then a big ham dinner. That’s it – it was a meal event, like Thanksgiving. Not religious.
I’ve learned the story of my paternal grandparents. One Protestant, one Catholic. Both their families mostly disowned them and they then removed religion from their lives. So growing up in their home I experienced zero religion, and that continued with my parents. I thank God for it.
Shana
Brisket’s reheating in the oven, potato kugel is cooking, green beans are waiting to cook, apple caramel cake in a star of david bundt pan turned out perfect (no bits got stuck in the pan), wine’s been opened. Now we’re just waiting for guests to arrive.
Omnes Omnibus
@Jay C:
I’ll note that pizza is a circular bread as well.
Renie
Got an exciting package in yesterday’s mail. A little background first; I do the genealogy research in my family, started about 25 – 30 years ago. With the internet have been able to get so much more info. So I researched my Dad’s military history and started the paperwork last year and finally got replacements for all his WWII medals! This is so precious to me especially since he died almost 50 years ago when I was 9. Going to display them proudly in my home!
NotMax
Two shows attended while in NY.
The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time. Top notch, if lopsided, drama. 99.5% of the play is shouldered by the young lead; all the other actors are nearly window dressing. Technically amazing but a bit too enamored of its wizardry. Sort of the stage production equivalent of [insert name of any heavily CGI-reliant movie here], utilizing all sorts of high tech complex audio, amplification and fast-paced lighting effects along with 9 – count ’em, 9 – digital projectors, sometimes all working simultaneously.
Personally found issue with some of the director’s choices and affectations regarding blocking, but not enough to drop the entirety from an A+.
Something Rotten. Total piece of fluff and totally fun. Takes shots at Shakespeare, at the Renaissance and at any number of other Broadway productions. Clever and bawdy lyrics plus a full-on tapdance number, something one doesn’t get to see on stage much anymore. One can feel the complete cast having a damned good time performing throughout. Both the orchestra and the chorus were excellent, however the sound system seemed overly amplified and lacking in bass.
Mild criticism in that it is unbalanced – 11 musical numbers in Act I, only 3 in the much shorter Act II. Final grade: A.
NotMax
Challah the bakeries sold when was a young’un was never round, always a long braided loaf. Much easier to slice for sandwiches.
schrodinger's cat
Shana Tovah to everyone who celebrates.
Its festival time in India too! Jain Paryushan, kinda like the Jain Lent, has started a food fight among two right wing parties in Mumbai. Many Jains are to food what Kim Davis is to marriage, they want to decide who can eat what and when. Having the BJP in power has raised their entitlement to the nth degree.
NotMax
@schodinger’s cat
IIRC, all Jains are in agreement that lettuce is a super major no-no.
Goblue72
Will Tron Moses appear?
schrodinger's cat
@NotMax: Why lettuce?
NotMax
@schrodinger’s cat>Again, going from memory, but something about a major founder or early Jain luminary having been killed in a field of lettuce, forever rendering that veggie bad luck and verboten.
Omnes Omnibus
@schrodinger’s cat: It knows what it did.
debbie
@Baud:
Is this how you’re starting your campaign?
schrodinger's cat
@NotMax: I have never heard of that one before. Jains don’t eat onions, garlic, peanuts and even coconut.
rikyrah
Shana Tova!
JCT
L’Shanah Tovah to all.
Husband off to pick up the youngest at the airport, last challah is braided and on it’s last rise. He surprised me with a spectacular stand mixer yesterday and it looks like lots of pizza and bread dough to make this week!
I learned to bake / braid challah from my great grandmother and whenever I start to braid (especially a 6- strand) I can still heard her heavily accented English directing me. Lot’s of “no, not that one”. Not my forté, braiding…
A guy
It would be nice if our Muslim president would read and appreciate the Hebrew traditions. Failing that he has put the united states in jeopardy
Omnes Omnibus
@A guy: It’s intentional, you know.
NotMax
@A guy
Sincerest hopes that the sky is a pleasing color in whichever dimension it is where you reside.
schrodinger's cat
@JCT: I have never tried braiding bread, braiding hair is hard enough!
NotMax
@JCT
Have never made braided bread. Have made braided cookies, and those are not at all difficult.
NotMax
Heh. Got my act together enough (and had sufficient coffee) to ready myself to go out and mow the jungle that was a lawn when left for vacation.
And the rains began at that precise moment. Coming down steadily now.
C’est la vie.
Pouring rain and still hear a neighbor out there with a weed whacker.
JCT
@schrodinger’s cat: That’s the amusing part, I can’t braid hair to save my life. At least the bread doesn’t say “ow”.
@NotMax: 3-strand braiding is very straightforward, for 6-strand I have to talk myself through it :-) – my eldest used to tease me about it until she tried to do it without the “second over, top middle” song.
Omnes Omnibus
Just a few minutes until ep. 2 of season 2 of the Great British Baking Show. Then Sherlock. Add in the Packers beating the Bears, and I am having a nice day.
And L’Shana Tova.
SiubhanDuinne
@Redshift:
The dog, the god, or Schroedinger’s Planet?
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
As is the noble English muffin.
Mnemosyne
@Betty Cracker:
Betty, a Florida fashion question that occurred to me (and any other Florida fashion mavens can feel free to chime in) — do teenage girls still wear those knitted lace slouchy hats anymore, or are they totally passé? I’m trying to think of a small something I could knit for my 15-year-old niece and her sister for Christmas. I could probably go for some kind of accessory bag or purse instead of something wearable.
(Their brother who moved out here will be getting a black or dark navy ribbed knit hat, because he will be shocked at how much colder it gets here than it does in Florida.)
Zinsky
The Jewish faith has some admirable traditions, most notably, in my opinion, Jubilee when debts are forgiven. Something tells me conservatives might not be so enamored of the Hebrew faith, if they knew that.
NotMax
Am now the proud(?) owner of an electric kettle that had shipped to Mom to arrive when I was there. She adamantly and stridently refused it – wouldn’t so much as touch it or let me demonstrate it – insisting her teeny tiny tea kettle on the gas range was all she wanted, and that the new one be toted back with me. She even surreptitiously threw away the box so I would have to take it and not return it.
Her kitchen is red and white so purposely sought out a red one with white accents, which matches absolutely nothing else in my house. :)
BAtFFP
@NotMax:
I think you’re actually referring to Yazidis?
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/03/international/middleeast/03IRAQ.html
/nerd
NotMax
@BatFFP
Thanks. I sit corrected and properly chastised.
At least got the lettuce part right. :)
(One dilemma regarding getting to be ancient is that can readily recall when the memory actually functioned as intended.)
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@A guy:
You mean like by taping a special message for the holiday like he’s done every year of his presidency, including this year?
http://forward.com/video/320899/barack-obamas-rosh-hashanah-message/
PurpleGirl
L’Shanah Tovah to all.
Besides having a number of Jewish friends (of all degrees of observance) in college I took a couple of courses with Rabbi Finkel on religion in the Ancient Near East. Rosh Hashanah and Yon Kippur are both new year’s celebrations. The Middle East has several growing seasons and two of them came in close proximity to each other. Over time, they both acquired their distinct meanings and connections to each other. (In the spring you have “New Year for Trees” or Tu B’Shevat.)
(As an Equal Opportunity Deity Worshipper, I like Tu B’Shevat. It’s a fun celebration and encourages people to plant trees.)
elmo
@NotMax: Enjoy it! Can’t live without mine.
BR
Anyone know how I might get a bunch of free lawn signs — the 18″ x 24″ plastic ones? I want to make tree pots out of them (basically deep-rooted pots for growing fruit trees). I’m in the SF Bay Area. I was thinking maybe I could get them from the local Dem county office but couldn’t find any leads. I also was thinking maybe Jeb? or other candidates with tons of spare cash might be giving them away but I wasn’t sure how to go about requesting them.
Any ideas?
NotMax
@PurpleGirl
Speaking of trees, new estimate is that we’re down to about 3 trillion.
Article makes no mention of breaking down estimates by species or varietal scarcity.
SiubhanDuinne
@NotMax:
A First-World Problem if ever there was one!
That story really made me laugh.
A guy
That’s all for show!
A guy
All for show while he pursues his ain’t american agenda. See trump polls number for confirmation
NotMax
@elmo
Tried the “You”ll wonder how you ever lived without it” tack, but no go.
Was more worried about her nodding off or otherwise spacing out (whether from simple forgetfulness or from medical straits) about the one on the gas range, having it boil dry and create a fire hazard.
scott (the other one)
@Renie: That is AWESOME.
Germy Shoemangler
@Keith G: I like this version better, the John Lennon Stripped Down version.
Central Planning
@efgoldman:
I think chicken parm is probably my most favorite dish ever.
We had lobster tails with a garlic butter and linguini tonight, but I would take the chicken parm over that in a heartbeat.
Lurking Canadian
Since this is an Open Thread, I am bold enough to share that I finished an Olympic length triathlon today. My time was just slightly less than three hours, about which I am ecstatic, but which puts me well below average among the god-like specimens who compete in triathlons.
Best part: having broken three hours, I never have to do another one!
Germy Shoemangler
@Mnemosyne (tablet):
Well, if you’re going to introduce reality into the discussion…
Central Planning
@Jay C:
So are bagels. Coincidence or conspiracy?
Germy Shoemangler
@Keith G: Also appropriate is John Lennon’s stripped down Cleanup Time
“Bubble bubble, toil and no trouble”
Central Planning
@Lurking Canadian:
Did you really have to do one in the first place? I can safely say I’ll never have to do my first one.
Suzanne
@Lurking Canadian: WAY. TO. GO. That is awesome!
mai naem mobile
@schrodinger’s cat: I I thought the real strict Jains don’t eat anything where you’re killing the whole plant so root veggies. The onions/garlic thing is for strictish Hindus and religious fasting days. My sister’s doing the no onion/garlic thing since she went all religious. I don’t know how you do indian food without onions.
Germy Shoemangler
Holy shit! This is the way to do it: Use Reagan’s own words against the modern-day anti-immigration GOP candidates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrMED4_OdkA
mai naem mobile
@BR: go to GOP headquarters. They should have a bunch of losing candidate signs there. Seriously,look at the craigslist free category – they might have some real estate signs.
schrodinger's cat
@mai naem mobile: Jains can abstain from eating whatever they want but their bullying tactics trying to dictate what others eat is what I find objectionable.
ETA: There is direct correlation its seems between growing religious intolerance and the rise of the BJP.
Kay
I know not to have 3 kids stay over, because they always exclude one in three- group of 2 is fine, group of 4 is fine but not 3- and yet I always get talked into it and then I always end up with 1 who is picked-on and sad.
Litlebritdifrnt
Continuing the discussion of escaping dogs from downstairs. Our beloved chow/german shepard cross Dweebe decided early on in her life that in order to protect the homestead she had to look at the homestead (as opposed to looking at the homestead from inside). She would dig and escape every day trot the few feet across the street and sit in the neighbor’s driveway and “watch” the homestead. It got to the point that the animal control guy would pull up, say to her “come on Dweebe” she would trot back across the street and he would pick her up and drop her back across the fence. It got to be such a regular occurrence that she and the animal control guy got to be good friends. He was really sad when she died.
shell
\Theres a recipe for a sesame challah I want to give a try. Its said to be as if a scallion pancake and challah had a baby.
srv
Liberals, always re-inventing themselves. This is why you will never be Trump.
Thoughts for those in Middletown, it appears to be destroyed.
Baud
@Lurking Canadian:
I used my DVR today to watch a three hour football game in less than three hours.
gelfling545
@schrodinger’s cat: Having done both, I can tell you that bread is easier. It doesn’t wiggle around & whine.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Technology, ain’t it amazing? On a related note, the Office Depot near me is closing; so far the discounts aren’t good enough for any purchases. It’s kinda sad, since it was nice having a sorta tech store within a short walk.
Patricia Kayden
@Renie: Wonderful! Shows that the internet can be used for good.
SiubhanDuinne
@Renie:
Wow! That is just completely cool.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA:
I’ve never been able to find a going out of business sale that was any good.
Central Planning
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Weird. I’m pretty sure they acquired/merged with OfficeMax when they went out of business. Seems to me that acquiring a failed business isn’t really good business sense.
Is there a Staples nearby? Every one of the OfficeMaxes in Rochester were near a Staples. I don’t think they could compete.
Patricia Kayden
@Mnemosyne (tablet): “A guy”: Nothing he claims is actually factual. Typical Republican liar.
schrodinger's cat
@gelfling545: I have only braided my own hair but I would wriggle and whine while my mother used to braid my hair. Also I was never happy with the result.
Suzanne
I am trying to figure out if it impossible to have every product I typically purchase sent to me via Amazon Prime, so that I never have to run errands again. This would be excepting groceries, dog food, and gasoline.
I hate running errands. It’s gotta be possible to have everything delivered, right? Any tips?
schrodinger's cat
@Suzanne: You can use Peapod for groceries.
CaseyL
My parents sent me to Hebrew School starting when I was in 5th grade in regular school. That first year, I was determined to observe all the holidays correctly. Rosh HaShanah was easy; for Yom Kippur, however, you need to personally apologize to everyone you’ve sinned against in the previous year.
At 10 years of age, I didn’t have too many sins to worry about; plus, I wasn’t very clear on just what constituted a “sin.” I thought mostly of the times I had upset my parents and grandparents doing what kids do: blurt out embarrassing things. I put together a list and went about apologizing….
Thing is, my parents and grandparents had mostly forgotten about those incidents – or had blocked them from memory.
So I very conscientiously reminded them. In the spirit of Yom Kippur, I gave each person who needed an apology a detailed reminiscence of what I was apologizing for, thus reminding them of how embarrassed they were at the time.
Oy.
Central Planning
@Suzanne:
We use the Subscribe And Save feature which makes things less expensive than the local grocery store. There’s also an Amazon Pantry but I haven’t tried that one yet. I think they only thing you would have to worry about is perishables (milk, cheese, ice cream, etc)
SiubhanDuinne
@Central Planning:
I think all three are merging, somehow: Office Depot, Office Max, and Staples.
I would love to boycott Staples (because Romney), but they happen to be the only retailer that carries the only notebook system I will use (Arc, similar to the Circa line from Levenger’s, but WAY less expensive). I’ll await with interest what happens once the three-way merger eventually takes place. Have no idea what they’re going to call it, finally.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Central Planning:
It’s especially weird because the closest OfficeMax store is 10 miles away from that Office Depot. (Bill and I live in the same area, so I know which store he’s talking about.) But that location has always seemed really slow, so it may be strictly a traffic decision.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@Patricia Kayden:
I’m just worried a guy his age is going to injure his back moving the goalposts so far.
;-)
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne:
Staple Depot has my vote. Or Erwin.
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@SiubhanDuinne:
I know how you feel — the Marriott chain has the only hotel mattresses that don’t hurt my back, but I feel guilty giving Romney money every time I stay there.
Central Planning
@SiubhanDuinne:
Me too, however my employer has some sort of contract with them that I am able to take advantage of just by swiping my credit card to pay. Sometimes I get 2-for-1 paper, binders for $1.57, tape for $0.17 and things like that. Hard to quit that kind of discount.
I purchased a color laser printer through OfficeMax almost 2 years ago. I paid for the extended warranty (like $25 at the time or something like that). Turns out, the fuser roller warped/got damaged and I was still able to register my contract and submit the claim, but now it’s Office Depot. I got a giftcard for the value of the printer and tax, so I purchased another one. Now I have two, one of which can be spare parts for the new one.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Central Planning: It’s just this location, they’re build mixed retail and apartments on the location.
Right to Rise
Hillary Clinton and the Dems are in big, big trouble.. Hillary is so weak that her party is on the verge of nominating red diaper baby soci1alist Bernie Sanders.
Sanders would win four or five states and that would be it. Even Trump would squash him. The Left is going crazy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne (tablet): I’m not sure about an Office Max(they and Office Depot merged) in the area, but there is an Office Depot near Ikea.
There is also a Staples in town, but it’s a bit of a longer walk, then again I ain’t afraid of walking anymore.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Right to Rise: Hey, how’s jeb? doing?
stinger
@Renie: That’s wonderful! Congratulations!
SiubhanDuinne
@Central Planning:
Well, as long as they’re full of women.
Central Planning
@SiubhanDuinne:
Well played! :golf clap:
Brachiator
@redshirt:
Is this becoming the new big deal? I’m not a huge sports person, but I’ll watch the NFL, just like any other highly religious person. I noticed a lot of commercials during NFL pre-game for something called Fan Deal, a fantasy football something? I figure those commercials must cost a pile of money.
And I mention NFL as religion because I was struck by the huge amount of time devoted to talking about the return of football to TV, the bombast of the pre-game shows, and the boatloads of money spent on lavish productions of NFL promotional stuff.
CBS was over the top with its pre Super Bowl promos, and stuff about golden footballs being given to the little towns of Bethlehem in which various hall of famers got their starts, the micro featurettes of players who hope to get to the promised land of SuperBowl 50, and the self-congratulatory hosannas of CBS and the most SuperBowl covering sports network ever come February, promising glorious HD action from yardline to yardline, worlds without end, Amen.
Mike G
Comparison pics of what Labor leader Jeremy Corbyn and David Cameron were up to in the 80s —
https://twitter.com/KushlasBySanaer/status/642657660110827520/photo/1
BillinGlendaleCA
@efgoldman: Heh, indeedy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Brachiator:
Even Colbert mentioned it the other night. No more Superb Owl for him, now he’s hit the big time.
redshirt
@Brachiator: Imagine football players as stocks and “Fantasy” sports as a weekly stockmarket.
Anne Laurie
@Suzanne:
In the spirit of confession, we get the extremely heavy litter which is all my cat will use via Amazon, free shipping, and we’re not even Prime customers. And most of our OTC drugstore stuff — shampoo, toothpaste, lip balm — from drugstore.com, almost always free shipping as well. Not to mention websites for specialty food products (my favorite Kind bars, EmEukal honey bonbons, Penzeys spices). And 95% of my clothing, even shoes & bras, since I know what sizes I wear from which brands. If I had to, I could make up lists in advance and get everything but perishables delivered to my door. (It saves gas, but if our town didn’t recycle cardboard, I’d feel guilty about our carbon footprint.) Craft chains deliver, too.
Main problem with doing all your shopping by mail, in my experience, is children. You can’t predict their tastes (this week’s must-have cereal is next week’s OH YUCK), they change sizes, and they don’t remember until the night before that they need three sheets of foamcore, washable markers, a package of chenille twists, and felt squares in the school colors for “some project”. And/or two dozen cupcakes. As in so many ways, children are death on planning…
MobiusKlein
@A guy: if Obambi uses Hebrew, his vampire blood explodes. Not good for his image
Punchy
Anyone see the rumors that Kim Davis filed some friv lawsuit on Friday to “allow” her to continue denying licenses Monday under the legal principle of “everythings still be adjudicated, bitchez”?
It seems like a pretty good bet she’ll use something like this to continue ignoring that judge….
PurpleGirl
@Anne Laurie: I use Amazon to get cat and kitten food for the Rescue in CT I support. They deliver to the rescuer’s house and it’s easier for her not to have to buy it herself. And after having joined Prime, the shipping is cheaper. I’ve asked her if I could order it from Petco and have arrange for her to pick it up when she has an adoption event at a Petco store.
Punchy
@efgoldman: Dunno. I know she can fire anyone she wants. Im guessing anyone still intent on issuing marriage paperwork would be handed their walking papers before lunch.
Amir Khalid
@Right to Rise:
From your link: “Clinton up in SC”
Gin & Tonic
@Anne Laurie: they don’t remember until five minutes after the nearest craft store closes the night before that they need three sheets of foamcore, washable markers, a package of chenille twists, and felt squares in the school colors for “some project”.
FTFY
Mnemosyne (tablet)
@PurpleGirl:
Petco generally has free shipping over $49, so you may be able to order from them and have it sent directly to her as well.
Suzanne
@Anne Laurie: Actually, I am just as bad about stuff like that, food-wise. I get cravings for certain stuff and must have it. Mr. Suzanne also likes to do a lot of comparison shopping because he is a cheapskate, so I don’t think we’ll ever be good at grocery shopping online. But we have it cut down to Trader Joe’s and Sprouts, so that’s not too bad. Plus Costco for dog food, cat litter, paper goods, the bottled iced tea I like, OTC medications, and some other food items.
What I really want to eliminate, though, are the other trips. Like to Target for sulfate-free shampoo and conditioner, to Sally Beauty for hair dye, to Sephora for mascara, etc. I am fairly picky about the health/beauty products I use due to my allergies and skin sensitivity, so I think I can successfully do the subscription thing. Clothes I do pretty well online.
I just really hate leaving my house.
Mike in NC
@Amir Khalid: Read where JEB! is taking a couple of weeks off to rest up, as he has low energy and tires easily. As governor, he always had a staffer sitting next to him to nudge him in case he nodded off during cabinet meetings.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Renie: That’s so very cool. Show them proudly.
Brachiator
@redshirt:
This even lessens the appeal for me. I would say just buy an index fund and relax.
I got nothing against those who like this kind of thing, but it is not even remotely interesting.
@efgoldman:
Ah, Fan Duel. Shows how much I was paying attention.
Interesting. Are the leagues and networks trying to get a piece of the gambling action?
And I just noticed that even the google doodle is all about football game day.
Betty Cracker
@Mnemosyne: I still see those hats. Kids down here even wear the thicker, woolier ones in the colder weather.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: 72 degrees.
Anne Laurie
@Suzanne: Well, I’m almost as picky as you about toiletries, and the Spousal Unit is even pickier, and I’ve had great results with drugstore.com & its interconnected beauty.com. And I’ve never heard anything but good stories about Sephora’s website…
Another trick, there’s times when I ordered the particular thing I wanted from an “Amazon vendor” and then switched to ordering directly from the new site, once I’ve got their details.
redshirt
@Brachiator: They’re all sponsoring these “not gambling” websites so I assume they’re getting a slice – Fanduel and Draftkings.
I’m probably going to win money, but it depends on Monday and the Eagles.
Brachiator
Today in East Los Angeles, we also had the Mexican Independence Day Parade.
I also saw a link about celebrations in a neighborhood in Chicago. Didn’t realize that they had a significant Mexican American population.
http://abc7.com/society/east-los-angeles-mexican-independence-day-parade-draws-thousands/982495/
They should have sent Trump an invitation.
Another Holocene Human
Thought it was interesting that Barack Obama and Hassan Rouhani both made New Year’s greetings on Twitter (and this is not the first time, either).
Brachiator
@redshirt:
Interesting. Might be some problems down the road.
Good luck to you.
Also, for me, I guess, if there is a chance that I can either win or (more importantly) lose money, then it ain’t fantasy anymore. Also if I don’t “lose” money, but there is a buy-in.
Another Holocene Human
@Brachiator:
Oh yeah. Google Chicano Chicago.
Another Holocene Human
@Punchy: Well this happened. #doyourjob
I don’t care for the gendered slurs but other than that it’s kind of perfect.
redshirt
@Brachiator: I can only lose as much money as I put in to the game. Thus, it’s not really as dangerous as gambling, because you can only lose what you spend and that’s quite clearly limited by your credit card.
So, rather, I think of it like an entertainment expense, which also has a chance of winning a million dollars.
redshirt
I’ve been really good at Fantasy for a long time too. I can answer your Fantasy questions if you have them.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Thank you.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Don’t.Want.To.Know.
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: Thus, it’s not really as dangerous as gambling, because you can only lose what you spend
I’m confused. In what form of gambling can you lose more than you spend? Can I go into the casino with $100 and lose $200?
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic:
Futures markets.
Gin & Tonic
@Omnes Omnibus: Somehow I don’t think redshirt was talking about the pork belly or FCOJ markets.
Gin & Tonic
@efgoldman: Double crap. How did you get away with the word but I couldn’t.
I’m special. I can also say Viagra. Or Cialis. Or Cory Booker.
Envy my power.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: No, of course not. But that is the gambling forum in which it can happen.
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: Double crap. How did you get away with the word but I couldn’t.
I’m special. I can also say Viagra. Or Cialis. Or Cory Booker.
Envy my power.
WITNESS!
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: It’s a fee you pay to an organization in return for receiving entertainment. That’s what all Fantasy sports are.
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: I tried quoting you – even on a post that had already been posted – and still I got sent to Moderation.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Right, and the money that you give the nice young lady is just for her to spend time with you and not for sex – she chooses to do that because she finds you attractive.
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: WITNESS!
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
Sports gambling involves the matter of “odds” whereas Fantasy Football has no such concerns.
Thus, not gambling.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Like I said….
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: I think there’s a difference between a “fee” for entertainment and a “Gambling Concern”.
redshirt
@efgoldman:
I have this new giant friend named Rocco who tells me it’s all just for fun and laughs. :)
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: Can you get back more than what you paid?
If I spend $12 to go to the movies, or $100 to go to the opera, that’s a fee I’m paying in order to receive entertainment. At the end of some period of time, I have been entertained, and I don’t get any portion of my money back. If I pay to join a fantasy sports league, and the outcomes of sporting contests determine whether I get a positive or a negative return on that capital, that’s gambling. Not a value judgement here, just a statistical judgement.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
No of course and are you accusing me of buying prostitutes?
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: Not buying prostitutes. Paying a “fee” for “entertainment.” Totally different things.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: One doesn’t buy prostitutes, and your implication is unwarranted. I accused you of nothing.
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic:
Yes, and?
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus:
Slippery. Probably true, but you’ve revealed yourself as an eel.
Gin & Tonic
@redshirt: Your words from upthread: “I’m probably going to win money, but it depends on Monday and the Eagles.”
You’re betting on the outcomes of sporting events. Personally I don’t care if you do or don’t, it’s your money and you are presumably a grownup. But don’t get all coy and say you’re not betting on the outcomes of sporting events.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: No. An eel how? I don’t see myself as anything fishy. I am not an immense swimmer.
redshirt
@Gin & Tonic: I’m paying for an entertainment experience that can pay me millions but will never cost me more than my ticket price =/ not gambling.
Buying a lotto ticket is exactly the same. You’ve spent your 2 dollars. You might possibly win millions. But most likely not. There’s nothing more to be lost unless you keep buying tickets.
Real gambling has bookies and double or nothings and all kinds of tricks to suck out your money.
redshirt
I mean, I’ve lost like 300$ in like five minutes at a 3 card poker table at 1 AM in Vegas, hammered. It’s so stupid. I know.
Brachiator
@redshirt:
I’m not really that concerned about whether it’s gambling. The underlying activity doesn’t hold much attraction for me.
It is interesting though that you say that what you can lose is limited by your credit card. This implies that you are encouraged to increase your level of participation at some cost.
And for what it’s worth, if there is a chance of winning a million bucks, that chance is determined by something, even if no one is quoting odds to you.
At best, this sounds like Dungeons and Dragons for sports nerds. But another aspect of it sounds like the essence of professional gambling, which is all about separating suckers from their money.
redshirt
@Brachiator: Is buying a movie ticket gambling? Is buying a ticket to the County Fair?
NotMax
@redshirt
Judging by certain rather oogy-appearing food booths have seen at various county fairs over a lifetime, yes.
Amir Khalid
It is a little after 14:00 over here. The haze over KL is so thick now that the Twin Towers of Petronas, just two or three kilometers away as the crow flies, are no longer visible from my bedroom window.
Brachiator
@redshirt:
When was the last time that someone won a million bucks as a result of buying a movie ticket?
How much of your participation in your fantasy football thing is predicated on the chance that you might win some money out of the thing?
BTW, as I noted before, the gambling or game of chance element of some fantasy football stuff does not affect my judgment of it. If you find it entertaining and another way to squeeze some fun out of your interest in sports, more power to you.
mclaren
@JPL:
See, this is the problem some of us have with religion. What the shit does anyone who’s dead care whether they have their names blotted out from the book of life? THEY’RE DEAD. They don’t exist. Done. Gone. Nada. History. No mas. Kaput. They are ex-people. They’re not just stunned, like Monty Python’s parrot. They’re fucking dead. They don’t exist anymore.
And the religious guys mumble in response, “Well God yadda yadda and resurrection and blah blah,” so okay…if there’s this God person and I’m resurrected and there’s this Judgement thing and God is scribbling in the Book of Life, you know what’s gonna happen?
This God person will NOT be scribbling very long. because I will grab this God person by his scrawny little neck and I’ll be shouting, “Hey! ASSHOLE! What’s with the river blindness? And the cancer? And the venereal disease? And chronic pain? And infant leukemia? What made you think that kind of evil torment was a good idea, SHIT-FOR-BRAINS?” And by this time I’m not just holding this God person by his scrawny little pipestem neck, I’m bitch-slapping him so hard his head goes back and forth. Wap, wap, wap, like a bobblehead doll.
See, things are not working out at this point the way the religious guys expect…
Amir Khalid
@mclaren:
You seem rather upset.
Sam Dobermann
@A guy: He has a Seder each year in the White House with a small group of friends, some Jewish. He started doing that during his campaign in 2008.
Plus he sends greetings on other holidays.