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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2016 / Late Night Open Thread: Encouraging the Two-Bit Racists

Late Night Open Thread: Encouraging the Two-Bit Racists

by Anne Laurie|  March 23, 201612:08 am| 128 Comments

This post is in: Election 2016, Open Threads, Post-racial America, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Decline and Fall, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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Terrible peek into Cuba's human rights violations.

Wait… What?
pic.twitter.com/S09OM9BhWU

— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) March 22, 2016

"The statements [Ted Cruz] made today is why he won't become president of this country," – NYPD Police Commissioner Bill Bratton

— Pervaiz Shallwani (@Pervaizistan) March 22, 2016

White supremacist starts 24/7 hotline for bullied Trump supporters https://t.co/CmgO161vM4 #p2

— Alan Colmes (@AlanColmes) March 22, 2016

My faaaavorite take is when ppl act like the Dems lost working class whites bc of Salon thinkpieces or whatever and not the Civil Rights Act

— Arthur Chu (@arthur_affect) March 21, 2016

One can only hope Bill Bratton is correct about Ted Cruz. And that Donald Trump similarly fails.

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  1. 1.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:11 am

    O’Murphy says this is HIS neighborhood!!!

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 12:12 am

    No BJ election thread of a day of primary/caucus results?

    Is this a sign of apocalypse?

  3. 3.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:13 am

    In one breath they complain about Castro and human rights and then in the next they call for a secret police against mooslims and medieval torture.

  4. 4.

    lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:13 am

    Got allergies acting up…likely Hay Fever…so I’m taking cold meds and off to bed soon

    Just wanted to share, I saw a screening of Batman be Superman…no spoilers but I will say I walked away going…shrugh…

    One word review…underwhelming. It wasn’t that it was “bad” but it wasn’t “great” grading on a curve I’d give it a B-/C. Pros Ben Afleck was better as Batman than expected, but I’ve always thought he’d surprise folks. Cons…a number of them, but they may be spoilery…so I won’t mention them.

    Short review: It’s a setup for the Justice League movies…no more, no less.

  5. 5.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:16 am

    @lamh36: I’ve been mentally writing this review for 6 months.

  6. 6.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:18 am

    Hard to believe Hillary won Arizona by 25 pts. considering everyone in the blogosphere keeps telling me her campaign is collapsing.

  7. 7.

    Dog Dawg

    March 23, 2016 at 12:18 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Kind of like how Obama is WORST PREZNIT EVER!!%t! for meeting with Castro, but Trump fellating Putin = Strong & Serious.

    Makes no sense whatsoever.

    Also, if they don’t want Presidents posing with images of dead Mass Murderers, they really ought to clear the capital of all images of Andrew Jackson. Just sayin’.

  8. 8.

    Steeplejack

    March 23, 2016 at 12:18 am

    Reposted from downstairs:

    DVR Alert!

    Some good Kurosawa movies on TCM tomorrow—mostly “modern,” wrapped around Seven Samurai (1954) at 10:30 a.m. EDT.

    No Regrets for Our Youth (1946), 6:15 a.m. EDT. Political/domestic drama spanning the years before and during World War II.

    Stray Dog (1949), 8:15 a.m. EDT. My pick for the day. Toshiro Mifune as a cop looking for his stolen gun. The gritty location visuals of postwar Tokyo are stunning.

    The Bad Sleep Well (1960), 2:15 p.m. EDT. Corporate corruption.

    High and Low (1963), 5:15 p.m. EDT. Business tycoon involved in a kidnapping gone wrong.

    The last two are wide-screen, so watch on TCM-HD if you get that channel. Letterboxing otherwise.

  9. 9.

    lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:19 am

    Alright, I’m off to bed…anyone else think Bernie won’t be winning any other primary states (caucus, maybe) but not primaries and I see even the caucus states going HRC way, if only cause folks seem to want to get this Dem nomination process over with already…I know a number of my peeps are just ready for this nomination process to be over…

    Anyway…good night

  10. 10.

    Mike in NC

    March 23, 2016 at 12:19 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Drumpf’s new American Gestapo units will have the classiest, most elegant uniforms, complete with shiny jackboots and truncheons.

  11. 11.

    amk

    March 23, 2016 at 12:20 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: CD = rethugs

  12. 12.

    Amir Khalid

    March 23, 2016 at 12:22 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:
    Really interesting that John Kasich, who is still running, is trailing Marco Rubio, who ain’t.

  13. 13.

    different-church-lady

    March 23, 2016 at 12:22 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Gonna be a long, long week of being explained at why Latino voters don’t matter.

  14. 14.

    amk

    March 23, 2016 at 12:22 am

    donald dreck takes all in AZ. Law of intended stupidity.

  15. 15.

    BBA

    March 23, 2016 at 12:22 am

    On another blog (which I won’t link here for the sake of sanity) I’m reading a commenter who thinks poor Southern whites supported the Confederacy just because those Northern abolitionists were so smug and superior about the whole slave thing, and the failure of Reconstruction proves their antipathy against yankees was totally justified.

    This is so absurd that even a capital-O Objectivist is pushing back on it.

  16. 16.

    Dog Dawg

    March 23, 2016 at 12:24 am

    Reading V for Vendetta now and was just struck by the Slogan of the Fascists during the campaign:

    “Make Britain Great Again!” Verbatim.

  17. 17.

    amk

    March 23, 2016 at 12:25 am

    has donald dreck won plurality in any state so far?

  18. 18.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 12:28 am

    @lamh36:

    Zach Snyder is not a very good director. He has more razzle-dazzle than Michael Bay, but equal amounts of insight into how actual humans interact with each other. So, no, I’m not surprised the movie wasn’t that great.

    Say what you will about the Marvel movies, but they’ve had a slew of really good directors (and writers!) behind them: Jon Favreau, Joss Whedon, etc. The DC movies are saddled with Snyder.

  19. 19.

    Redshift

    March 23, 2016 at 12:28 am

    @Mike in NC: Gold-plated truncheons!

  20. 20.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:28 am

    Nicole Wallace is really an air head.

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 12:35 am

    Why has MSNBC hired what looks (and sounds) like a 17-year-old to report from Utah?

  22. 22.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:35 am

    @efgoldman:

    But: If he, or anyone else who thinks rapprochement is a bad idea, owns a single piece of consumer electronics – a phone, a flat screen, a computer, a GPS – or pretty much any piece of electrical gear from an extension cord to a refrigerator or washing machine, or any Apple product, chances are he (or you, or me….) is helping to finance the largest oppressive regime in history in China.
    You take your choice of bad guys. It’s easy to hate the rotten people who run an island ninety miles off Florida with a couple of million people. A large country halfway around the world, with multiple billions of people, which produces a major proportion of our consumer goods? Not so much.

    Brilliant.

    Do you all hate immigrant labor if it only effects your chosen ethnicity?

  23. 23.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 12:36 am

    I’ll damn Zach Snyder with one more bit of praise — he’s good at casting. Watchmen was really well-cast. Henry Cavill is a good Superman, and I think Ben Affleck will be a really interesting Batman. But he doesn’t know what to do with the actors once he’s got them.

  24. 24.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:36 am

    In 2008 Hillary won Arizona by 8 pts (50% to 42%). She’s far exceeding that tonight.

    Obama won Utah by 18 pts (57% – 39%) and Idaho by 63 pts (80% – 17%)

  25. 25.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:37 am

    @Mnemosyne: Affleck is going to direct his own Batman movies.

    For good or ill/.

  26. 26.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:38 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: I remember the joy of Idaho!

  27. 27.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 23, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: last time I tried to sit through some of their primary coverage, I was struck by how rude she was, talking over everyone without anything to say

  28. 28.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @redshirt:

    Affleck is a good writer and director. He’s not a very good actor, so it’s better that he concentrate on what he’s good at. I’d be very interested to see his take on Batman.

  29. 29.

    Steeplejack

    March 23, 2016 at 12:40 am

    @efgoldman:

    I heard a little of Le Batard’s rant this morning when I accidentally hit Mike and Mike in the Morning on ESPN-2 while shooting for SportsCenter on ESPN. You nailed it: his complete inability (or unwillingness) to put Cuba’s oppression or “evilness” into any kind of perspective was ridiculous.

  30. 30.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:42 am

    @different-church-lady: I’m waiting for the week’s long explanation about how big crowds at rallies translate into a 25 pt victory loss.

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    March 23, 2016 at 12:43 am

    @Mnemosyne:
    If Affleck’s Batman (and in particular his Bruce Wayne) falls within his limited acting range, he might do okay.

  32. 32.

    Lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:47 am

    @Mnemosyne: Afleck as Batman was better than expected for sure…there’s not much acting to be dine there, but to be honest, this new Superman doesn’t involve much acting either…Unlike with Chris Reeves the special effects here have some to mean more than actually acting…Cavil essentially have to look good in profile shots, of enrich there is a lot and look good in the glasses.

    Anyway, I’ve really got to get to bed, but again…underwhelming

  33. 33.

    Brachiator

    March 23, 2016 at 12:47 am

    @Mnemosyne: I don’t think that Snyder is up to the level of Michael Bay, and I don’t think that much of Bay. It really makes no sense that DC has let Snyder chart the direction of many of the upcoming films.

    Marvel’s successes have let them relax a bit and take modest risks. They’ve had some good directors, but frustrated some and lost others because of their tight leash and commitment to rolling out the films based on a rigid adherence to their Phase 1,2,3 nonsense.

    DC may end up having to turn to the folks doing good TV work for them to save their cinematic butts.

  34. 34.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 12:47 am

    @Mnemosyne

    Anyone is a better choice than the star name floated often to portray Superman at that time – Nicholas Cage.

  35. 35.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:48 am

    Harry Enten ‏@ForecasterEnten

    Let’s just say it for what it is: by any measure Clinton is winning this primary. Save maybe among Reddit users.

    91 retweets 197 likes

    But doesn’t he become President of the Blogosphere, succeeding Blog President Edwards (photo).

  36. 36.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 12:50 am

    @Lamh36: That’s some major spoilage!
    Avert your eyes for fear of spoilage!!!!

  37. 37.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 12:50 am

    @Amir Khalid

    The secret to playing the current Batman is to strongly stub one’s toe right before the camera rolls to get the mandatory clenched teeth, curt delivery.

  38. 38.

    Thoroughly Pizzled

    March 23, 2016 at 12:51 am

    @Lamh36: I can’t think of a single decision that Superman made in Man of Steel. The only thing I liked about that movie was that it depicted the scale of his power pretty well.

  39. 39.

    Brachiator

    March 23, 2016 at 12:52 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Clinton has done so well in Arizona that clearly her only choice is to throw all her support to Sanders.

  40. 40.

    Lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:52 am

    @redshirt: shoot was it the bit about WW? if so I took it out…but I figured everyone who gonna see it saw the trailer and the WW cameo

  41. 41.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 12:53 am

    @NotMax:

    There’s actually a whole documentary about it — I think it’s called The Death of Superman Lives. If Tim Burton had managed to pull it off, it might have been really interesting, because Cage can be good if the director knows exactly what he wants from him.

  42. 42.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:53 am

    Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn

    Clinton leads in the national popular vote by a 58-40 margin so far.

    269 retweets 274 likes

    58-40: In other words a virtual tie!

  43. 43.

    Brachiator

    March 23, 2016 at 12:55 am

    @redshirt: Agree. Too much spoilage on a movie that has not yet officially opened.

  44. 44.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:55 am

    @Brachiator: For the good of the nation, Clinton should throw in the towel. It’s hopeless – there’s no way she can stop Sanders’s coronation.

  45. 45.

    Lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:57 am

    @NotMax: I love me some Nix Cage…but him as Superman…nope.

    Alls I need him to do is get right into making the 3rd National Treasure movie…I admit I love those

  46. 46.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 12:57 am

    #FeelTheMath

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 12:58 am

    @NotMax:

    I bought the Adam West series on Blu-Ray and it’s surprising to me as an adult how carefully constructed they are. And Batman is a total goody two-shoes, which is played for comedy that still holds up. Plus I can now appreciate even more of the cameos, like Francis X. Bushman as a crooked silent film exhibitor.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 12:58 am

    @Amir Khalid

    They’re getting a tad long in the tooth now, but felt that Hollywood missed a bet in not casting Affleck and Damon while they were newly hot commodities as the leads in a Hawk & Dove flick.

    (They’re DC characters for those unfamiliar with that comic book universe.)

  49. 49.

    Lamh36

    March 23, 2016 at 12:59 am

    @Brachiator: Sorry bout that I really didn’t mention anything about plots lines and the WW cameo was a big part of the trailer push for the movie…still I took that bit out of my comment, so nothing is really spoiled

  50. 50.

    Brachiator

    March 23, 2016 at 12:59 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: The national popular vote doesn’t matter. Speculation about it is not even useful.

    One use. It might scare the GOP into doing something even dumber than some of their actions so far.

  51. 51.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:02 am

    @Mnemosyne

    Sort of curious if the set keeps the original format of having episodes split into two parts. Show aired twice each week on its first run.

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 1:07 am

    @NotMax:

    It does — each episode half is about 20 minutes. They look great on Blu-Ray, too — all that 1960s Pop set design.

    In fact, the Blu-Ray is so sharp that you can see why Frank Gorshin was uncomfortable in the Riddler jumpsuit and asked them to switch him to the suit and jacket. It … outlines things, especially under bright TV lights.

  53. 53.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 1:10 am

    @Mnemosyne: how does catwoman’s catsuit look in blue-ray?

  54. 54.

    Amir Khalid

    March 23, 2016 at 1:12 am

    @Mnemosyne:
    You mean he had the guy’s version of camel toe?

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 1:13 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    I don’t know, I’m a straight woman. I found Gorshin’s anatomy more riveting.

  56. 56.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 1:15 am

    Is Trump going to put a wall around Florida and Puerto Rico too, so they can’t get in that way? What is he going to do about the roughly half of undocumented immigrants who overstayed visas?

  57. 57.

    Mnemosyne

    March 23, 2016 at 1:16 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Yup, poor guy. Apparently no one realized he was … outlined until after those episodes aired. They got him a second, different costume about halfway through the season and were a little more careful to shoot above the waist with the jumpsuit. At least, that’s what it looked like from the sequence of episodes.

  58. 58.

    The Republic, Blah Blah Blah...

    March 23, 2016 at 1:16 am

    @Mike in NC:

    Drumpf’s new American Gestapo units will have the classiest, most elegant uniforms, complete with shiny jackboots and truncheons.

    Would they in any way look like the uniforms Nixon came up w/ for the WH guards back in 1970?

    Rather tres Gestapo, no?

  59. 59.

    Suzanne

    March 23, 2016 at 1:17 am

    Finally home, after standing in line for two and a half hours to vote. Maricopa County cut the number of polling places from over 200 to 60, even as turnout almost tripled over 2012. Some of my Dem friends are reporting that they were given provisional ballots rather than real ballots, even though they are registered. Of course we embarrass ourselves AGAIN. Fuck this shithole.

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:17 am

    @Amir Khalid

    At the time there were rumors floating about of the studio feeding Burt Ward drugs to allay any Robin bulging.

  61. 61.

    Splitting Image

    March 23, 2016 at 1:18 am

    @NotMax:

    Anyone is a better choice than the star name floated often to portray Superman at that time – Nicholas Cage.

    I think Cage could be believable as Clark Kent, but I have trouble picturing him as Superman. The greatness of Christopher Reeve is that he played Clark Kent really well, but could turn into Superman just by taking off his glasses and straightening his posture. That’s really hard to do.

  62. 62.

    Villago Delenda Est

    March 23, 2016 at 1:23 am

    @The Republic, Blah Blah Blah…: Hugo Boss all the way.

  63. 63.

    Amir Khalid

    March 23, 2016 at 1:24 am

    @Splitting Image:
    If the special effects tech had been around when he was young, I bet Gregory Peck could have been an outstanding Superman.

  64. 64.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:24 am

    @The Republic, Blah Blah Blah…

    Pictures seem to have been scrubbed from the internet, but the initial proposed uniforms for the Dept. of Homeland Security enforcement arm were a Waffen-SS officer’s wet dream.

    Even included the double lightning bolt insignia as part of the outfit.

    The Nixon uniforms so quickly were universally made mock of that they disappeared very quickly. IIRC, they were given (or maybe sold at pennies on the dollar) to marching bands.

  65. 65.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:29 am

    @Amir Khalid

    Or (think about it a bit) a youngish Fred MacMurray.

  66. 66.

    different-church-lady

    March 23, 2016 at 1:29 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: To be serious for a moment: I’m more amused than annoyed if someone wants to delude themselves. And I can even shrug it off when they treat me like I’m stupid.

    But when they start in on the whole “Well, those kinds of voters don’t count!” routine, I find it pretty sickening. How in hell’s name can someone take that kind of attitude and still have the nerve to call themselves a “progressive”? It’s been the skunk in Sanders’ yard the whole time. I don’t hold him responsible for it, but dayum, I saw it too many times to ignore it or think it was just one or two flakes.

  67. 67.

    M. Bouffant

    March 23, 2016 at 1:31 am

    @Mike in NC: He stole “silent majority” from Nixon, maybe he’ll bring these back.

  68. 68.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 1:32 am

    Amir, I wish we could discuss matters at a roller rink.

    I mean certainly, I almost died tying a towel around my neck.

  69. 69.

    Mike J

    March 23, 2016 at 1:34 am

    Just back from the Hillary rally. What a blast!

    The coolest part? When her mic died, the HS gym full of supporters went quiet enough that she could keep speaking until they fixed it.

  70. 70.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 1:37 am

    @different-church-lady:

    But when they start in on the whole “Well, those kinds of voters don’t count!” routine, I find it pretty sickening. How in hell’s name can someone take that kind of attitude and still have the nerve to call themselves a “progressive”? It’s been the skunk in Sanders’ yard the whole time. I don’t hold him responsible for it, but dayum, I saw it too many times to ignore it or think it was just one or two flakes.

    Who? When? Links.

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:38 am

    Utah D called for Sanders. By a lot.

  72. 72.

    M. Bouffant

    March 23, 2016 at 1:38 am

    @efgoldman: Lebâtard: French for bastard. Just sayin’.

    And I (maybe used to now) enjoy his tee vee show.

  73. 73.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 1:39 am

    @srv:

    Markos Moulitsas: Sanders: Time to bow out

    Markos Moulitsas apparently doesn’t place a lot of value in being able to affect the party platform.

  74. 74.

    Prescott Cactus

    March 23, 2016 at 1:39 am

    @Suzanne: Please get on the vote by mail list. We’ve had our ballots for a month and mailed them last week. Don’t think it’s to late to sign up for November.

  75. 75.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 1:44 am

    Tweety and idiot Steve Schmidt drooling over Trump’s “strength” with Schmidt hoping a domestic terror act occurs to save gop in fall.

  76. 76.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 1:46 am

    Hello! Surprise.

  77. 77.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 1:48 am

    @Kropadope: when was the last time you read a party platform?

  78. 78.

    Luthe

    March 23, 2016 at 1:51 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: How can you betray President Baud! that way? He is the real president of the blogosphere.

  79. 79.

    Tripod

    March 23, 2016 at 1:53 am

    Sander’s is under-performing… again.

  80. 80.

    redshirt

    March 23, 2016 at 1:53 am

    Genuine surprise///

  81. 81.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 1:54 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: I have, it’s been a while, but I always read the reporting. The platform will affect the contours of the coming election. Besides that, Bernie has the money and the will to keep running. Voters want to be able to express their choice and they deserve representation at the convention. Hillary partisans have been trying to call this a done deal since before Iowa. You’re like little kids, “are we there yet?”

  82. 82.

    NotMax

    March 23, 2016 at 1:54 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    The Texas Republican party platform has for years now been an exemplar of a sheer unadulterated miasma of vileness, blinkered zealotry, unAmericanism and raw bigotry.

    Ought to be a real doozy this year.

  83. 83.

    karen marie

    March 23, 2016 at 2:07 am

    @NotMax: That would be quite the collector’s item.

  84. 84.

    Mike J

    March 23, 2016 at 2:10 am

    @lamh36:

    Short review: It’s a setup for the Justice League movies…no more, no less.

    I expect to see the monkey and hear “Wonder Twin powers, activate!”

  85. 85.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 2:14 am

    @Kropadope: the exact opposite happen 8 years ago. everyone who opposed Clinton called on her to drop out and scoffed at her supporters reasons. Now, they’re throwing their prior reality based logic aside.

  86. 86.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 2:20 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Perhaps if she weren’t pushing to have delegates seated whom she won in uncontested elections to make her math more favorable and making explicitly racist pitches for votes, people wouldn’t have been so put off by her continuing to campaign.

  87. 87.

    Mike J

    March 23, 2016 at 2:21 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    #FeelTheMath

    I saw a woman at the Hillary rally with that sign tonight. It was the only note of negativity I noticed, if you don’t count the Sanders supporters that drove up and down the street past the line chanting, “Bernie, Bernie!” Also too, there were doofi with a big bloody handprint, the name Clinton, and the word “Benghazi”

    An actual honest to god commie handed me a home printed flyer. He tried to give one to the woman behind me, but she said, “we’ll share.”

  88. 88.

    Cacti

    March 23, 2016 at 2:22 am

    I saw over DU(mb) that Sanders partisans were outraged that his (not registered Democrat) supporters, were not permitted to vote in the (closed) Arizona primary.

    For being sure they’re always the smartest people in the room, the Bernie kids are kind of dumb.

  89. 89.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 2:22 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: So, you’re telling me that sending more delegates to the convention is irrelevant?

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    Yutsano

    March 23, 2016 at 2:23 am

    @NotMax: There’s a fairly strong Anti-Trump sentiment in Texas. It will get very interesting once Trump gets the nomination. Iowa is gonna get really interesting once he clinches the nomination. Gonna need moar popcorn.

  91. 91.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 2:25 am

    @Cacti:

    I saw over DU(mb) that Sanders partisans were outraged that his (not registered Democrat) supporters, were not permitted to vote in the (closed) Arizona primary.

    They should’ve know and re-registered accordingly, true, but I think that closing primaries to independents is bad for the party. It helps lessen the engagement of left-voting independents.

  92. 92.

    Cacti

    March 23, 2016 at 2:28 am

    @Kropadope:

    They should’ve know and re-registered accordingly, true, but I think that closing primaries to independents is bad for the party. It helps lessen the engagement of left-voting independents.

    Disagree.

    If anybody can vote in anybody’s primary, what’s the point of party registration?

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    gwangung

    March 23, 2016 at 2:31 am

    @Cacti: Yeah, gotta agree. The Party isn’t there just for presidential candidates, but for Congress, Senate, state and county positions (and PCOs and whatnot).

    But this should have been instructions from the Sanders campaign to their supporters.

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    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 2:32 am

    @Kropadope: what’s the relevance? you tell me.

    but that aside, I can make a logical case for Sanders staying in the race, but you haven’t mentioned it yet.

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    mike in dc

    March 23, 2016 at 2:33 am

    Sanders wins Idaho and Utah tonight. Wins ID by a wide margin.

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    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 2:36 am

    @Mike J: what was on the flyer?

  97. 97.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 2:36 am

    @Cacti:

    If anybody can vote in anybody’s primary, what’s the point of party registration?

    You would still have to be registered to the party to run for office as a member of the party. Also, not everyone would be able to vote in the primary, because members of the other party aren’t allowed to.

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    goblue72

    March 23, 2016 at 2:45 am

    @Cacti: Because registered independents get to vote in the general election for whomever they feel like and they make up an increasingly larger and larger share of voter registration. (The largest voter registration identification – and more concentration outside the Deep South, which means in those states that lean Democratic.)

    And no, Independents are not all just closet partisans. This does not mean that they are centrists – but rather have ideological views that don’t precisely map onto one party platform vs. another.

    Better to let those voters views and preferences be part of the overall mix of choosing a Democratic nominee such that the end result choice is appealing to both registered Democrats and registered Independents – given that those registered Independents WILL be able to cast their vote for one of two candidates in the Fall.

    Next stupid question.

  99. 99.

    Cacti

    March 23, 2016 at 2:48 am

    @goblue72:

    Hello 43 year old.

    Sorry your fellow youths couldn’t pry themselves away from their Xboxes and bongs long enough to register for the primary.

    But I’ll bet they’re tweeting some pretty righteous broadsides about the AZ Democratic “establishment” (hiss, boo).

  100. 100.

    David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch

    March 23, 2016 at 2:48 am

    Trump is in 3rd place in Utah with a meager 13% of the vote.

    Odd – you’d think Mormons would consider Trump part of family considering his three marriages.

  101. 101.

    Mike J

    March 23, 2016 at 2:56 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Wall of text, front and back.

  102. 102.

    Cacti

    March 23, 2016 at 2:56 am

    Jill Stein is leading the AZ Green Party primary with…

    565 votes.

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    amk

    March 23, 2016 at 3:07 am

    @goblue72:

    “those registered Independents WILL be able to cast their vote for one of two candidates in the Fall.”

    So, it shouldn’t be a problem then for them then to make their voices count in Nov whoever is the nominee of the dem party?

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    Anne Laurie

    March 23, 2016 at 3:13 am

    @Kropadope: You could read Al Giordano’s twitter feed; he publicly blocks several of them every damned day…

  105. 105.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 3:27 am

    @amk:

    So, it shouldn’t be a problem then for them then to make their voices count in Nov whoever is the nominee of the dem party?

    Sorry, but in the GE, your vote pretty much only matters if you live in VA, OH, FL, CO, IA, or NV.

  106. 106.

    Amir Khalid

    March 23, 2016 at 3:38 am

    @Kropadope:
    So people in the other 44 states needn’t bother voting?

  107. 107.

    Kropadope

    March 23, 2016 at 3:43 am

    @Amir Khalid: Well, there’s other offices to vote for, obviously. But when the candidates show up in my state, they’re looking for money, not votes.

  108. 108.

    starscream

    March 23, 2016 at 4:38 am

    It’s a good thing Sanders swept through those states then. Wait…

  109. 109.

    rook to queen's 8

    March 23, 2016 at 4:51 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch: Odd – you’d think Mormons would consider Trump part of family considering his three marriages

    The problem is that his marriages were sequential, not concurrent. ;-)

  110. 110.

    sm*t cl*de

    March 23, 2016 at 5:00 am

    @Redshift:

    Gold-plated truncheons!

    The Great Truncheon of Stag Held.

  111. 111.

    Gerald

    March 23, 2016 at 5:19 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE THEY ARE consistent …. IF YOU BLACK …GET BACK! …IF YOU Brown …maybe you can stick around …If you are white …you are alright!

    LOL …please pass the popcorn!

  112. 112.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 23, 2016 at 5:39 am

    So I saw this yesterday and it still haunts me:

    Co Donegal pier accident: victim told rescuer to ‘save the baby’

    Speaking to RTE News last night, Walsh said: “It was terrible. I was out there. I was swimming. I didn’t know how I was going to help or what was going to happen. The baby was handed to me.

    “When it happened, the father looked at me and he had to make a decision. He could have saved himself because he was out of the car. But he went back into his family. I couldn’t do nothing else. The car went down instantly.

    “The younger child was trying to get out the back. The father knew deep down – he knew I was only going to be able to save one person. The thing he said, he handed it to me and said: ‘Save the baby.’ He went back and stayed with his family and the car just disappeared.”

  113. 113.

    Darkrose

    March 23, 2016 at 6:42 am

    @Steeplejack: I keep thinking about Jose Abreu’s Tweet:

    Thank you President Obama,MLB,MLB Players Association for making a dream come true for my generation.

    This is a guy who got to see his son for the first time in two years this past summer.

  114. 114.

    Darkrose

    March 23, 2016 at 6:48 am

    @mike in dc: So the pattern continues, with Sanders doing very well in very white states.

  115. 115.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 23, 2016 at 7:13 am

    I don’t entirely get the primary gloating here; it was actually a good night for Sanders. He crushed in the Idaho and Utah caucuses, by gigantic margins, when polling had only narrowly favored him. He also considerably overperformed his polling in Arizona; late polls had Clinton leading 50-24 (with a lot of undecideds).

    It doesn’t really get him any closer to getting the nomination, but it does indicate he has a lot of support that the Democrats are going to need to get on board in the general.

  116. 116.

    Aimai

    March 23, 2016 at 7:26 am

    @Matt McIrvin: ive been to a caucus–was ward leader for robert reich-and i enjoyed it tremendously but they sre awful for normal people. If you are elderly, disabled, shy, have language issues, ate outnumbered because of their ethnicity or gender they can be frightening and isolating. Caucuses favor people who show up in gangs or very determined over voters who simply want to vote. Like i said i enjoyed mine but i think they are exclusionary and can come across as racist or hostile depending on the comportment of the voters. The anti hillary rage expressed at hillary voters would have made me think twice about wanting to be locked in a closed room with people calling her and me war criminals and corporate lackeys.

  117. 117.

    Chyron HR

    March 23, 2016 at 7:27 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    He crushed in the Idaho and Utah caucuses

    It’s too bad red states and caucuses don’t count–the Sanders campaign said so, repeatedly. Tough luck for Bernie, but keep spamming those #AZElectionFraud hashtags.

  118. 118.

    satby

    March 23, 2016 at 7:46 am

    @Aimai: I’m not in a caucus state, but they don’t sound at all small d democratic to me. Too easily gamed.

  119. 119.

    C.V. Danes

    March 23, 2016 at 7:56 am

    @Dog Dawg: That’s one of my top 5 favorite movies.

  120. 120.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 23, 2016 at 8:17 am

    @Aimai: I wouldn’t argue with that–I think caucuses should probably be eliminated in favor of primaries.

    It’s the system we’ve got, though. I recall that in 2008, gaming the caucus system was key to putting Obama over the top, and Clinton’s people were constantly protesting that they’d won the popular vote.

  121. 121.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 23, 2016 at 8:19 am

    (I was just looking back at records of the delegate counts from 2008, and it’s amazing how close that primary race was. Clinton hung on after she probably had no realistic chance of getting the nomination, but to be fair to her, it was a much, much closer thing than we’re seeing now, even though this is a respectably contested race.)

  122. 122.

    FlipYrWhig

    March 23, 2016 at 8:26 am

    @Chyron HR: I thought it was the South that didn’t count because they’ll definitely vote Republican in the general election. But the Western states that’ll definitely vote Republican in the general election are very significant because SHUT UP

  123. 123.

    Paul in KY

    March 23, 2016 at 9:15 am

    @Mnemosyne: Have you got to the episode where he pulls out his trusty Bat Dog Polisher yet?

  124. 124.

    lollipopguild

    March 23, 2016 at 9:40 am

    @The Republic, Blah Blah Blah…: more like comic opera.

  125. 125.

    Capri

    March 23, 2016 at 9:45 am

    @David ?Canadian Anchor Baby? Koch:

    Trump dissed their boy.

  126. 126.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 23, 2016 at 10:24 am

    There was a recent head-to-head poll showing not just Bernie Sanders but Hillary Clinton beating Trump in Utah. I wouldn’t take it too seriously as a prediction, but they really hate Trump there.

    He’s maybe uniquely positioned to do poorly in Utah just because he’s this gross vulgar asshole, and over there they like their assholes priggish and self-righteous, like Ted Cruz. You’d think that would be the case in a lot of the South too, but in the South it’s really a tissue-thin veneer over racial animus.

  127. 127.

    Peale

    March 23, 2016 at 10:49 am

    @FlipYrWhig: I hope we can just put a stop to that. The Republicans win about 1/2 the states and there are very few reliably Democratic states. Both candidates have won their share of states they’ll never win in the general.

  128. 128.

    Andrey

    March 23, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @Kropadope: Explicitly racist pitches? Citation please.

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