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Indians at Cubs: The Baseballing!

by Adam L Silverman|  October 29, 20168:38 pm| 165 Comments

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  1. 1.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 8:40 pm

    Yeah, baby! May the best team win!

  2. 2.

    Mike J

    October 29, 2016 at 8:41 pm

    No bucktooth savage?

  3. 3.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 29, 2016 at 8:42 pm

    I hope that all of you are planning for the strike of the meteor that will take place somewhere around the middle of the ninth inning of game seven.

  4. 4.

    Eric S.

    October 29, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: The key here is it will be a small meteor and it will hit in Cleveland. That keeps me safe here in Chicago.

  5. 5.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: I was betting on massive solar flare wiping out all electronics on the planet. A more interesting apocalypse.

  6. 6.

    Steeplejack (tablet)

    October 29, 2016 at 8:46 pm

    Pete Rose, in addition to being a pig in general, sounded like he was high in the pre-game gabfest.

  7. 7.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    @Mike J: I may resemble that remark…

  8. 8.

    James E Powell

    October 29, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    Not expecting a 1-0 pitcher’s duel with Kluber going on short rest and Lackey who is not a dominating pitcher anymore.

  9. 9.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    @Steeplejack (tablet): He looks and sounds terrible.

  10. 10.

    Eric S.

    October 29, 2016 at 8:51 pm

    Rose was a rambling mess in the pregame. It was actually somewhat humorous. At least I thought so.

  11. 11.

    debbie

    October 29, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    @Eric S.:

    Do you think he will ever realize he isn’t getting into the Hall of Fame?

  12. 12.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    @Eric S.: He’s pretty dim on his best day.

  13. 13.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 8:57 pm

    @raven: Still grifting though, till the day he dies.

  14. 14.

    Eric S.

    October 29, 2016 at 8:58 pm

    @debbie: No. He’ll never realize that.
    @raven: He’s absolutely terrible as an announcer. What I laugh about is how pathetic he is and his attempts to interject in every conversation. The looks his fellow commentators give him, people that know what they are talking about, are priceless.

  15. 15.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    @redshirt: I think he’s making dough any way he can.

  16. 16.

    AnotherBruce

    October 29, 2016 at 9:11 pm

    Fucking Heyward and Lackey. Never hire ex-Cardinals.

  17. 17.

    Gravenstone

    October 29, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    Dear John Lackey. You know that bit about “big boy games”? Yeah, you’re in one. Kindly fucking pitch like it.

  18. 18.

    Uncle Jeffy

    October 29, 2016 at 9:15 pm

    Nobody can be a dominating pitcher when your third baseman makes as many errors as Bryant has. WTF?

  19. 19.

    Jay C

    October 29, 2016 at 9:16 pm

    Short rest or no, Kluber’s brought his “A” game tonight for sure.
    And Lackey hasn’t.

  20. 20.

    frosty

    October 29, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    @redshirt:

    I was betting on massive solar flare wiping out all electronics on the planet. A more interesting apocalypse.

    That was the first show of the History Channel Doomsday marathon I watched after the game last night. Though to be fair, 3 of the 4 (flare, nuclear war, gamma ray burst) had an EMP that fried the electronics. The fourth (Yellowstone hyper-eruption) was definitely the coolest though. A 50 mile high column of magma!

  21. 21.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 9:17 pm

    What’s the score?

  22. 22.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @redshirt: 3-1

  23. 23.

    AnotherBruce

    October 29, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    @Uncle Jeffy: Lackey served up that lollipop curveball for a home run before Bryant lost his senses. He couldn’t get out of the second inning. He should be done.

  24. 24.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @frosty: GRB would be the worst as I believe we’d have no heads up at all. At least with a solar flare we might get a day or two lead time.

  25. 25.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    @raven: Thanks.

    Wait. SPOILERS!!!!

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 9:25 pm

    @redshirt: And the number of large, angry, green skinned people running around smashing stuff would definitely be a public safety problem.

  27. 27.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 9:26 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: That is the Wild Rumpus in downtown Athens right now.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    October 29, 2016 at 9:27 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Or the heroes we need.

  29. 29.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @raven: My Bobcat insisted on coming home this weekend to escape the madness.

  30. 30.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: Adam used the politically correct insignia that the Tribe marketed for a while till they found out Chief Wahoo sold better. I think you can still buy the “C” stuff, they just don’t push it much.

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    @raven: Christ, they got to you too? It’s definitely going down on State St.

  32. 32.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: In a world of Hulks, is anyone angry?

  33. 33.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 9:31 pm

    @redshirt: Perish the thought. I want to see pictures of Cole’s house when it’s done.

  34. 34.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: But you’d write us a great article about hulks.

  35. 35.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 9:33 pm

    @raven: Good to know.

  36. 36.

    Baud

    October 29, 2016 at 9:34 pm

    @Pogonip: A thorough exposition of No Smash Zones.

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 9:38 pm

    @Pogonip: Adam is an expert on 18th century prison ships?

  38. 38.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 9:40 pm

    @redshirt: Who said they’d all be hulks. Some could be abominations or leaders or ogresses or abominatrixes or aberrations or gargoyles or you get the idea!

  39. 39.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @Pogonip: At work they printed up C logo stuff for cubes and windows, and hung a big C banner out front. We have ‘spirit days’ when the games are played, and workers are invited to wear team gear; most of it is C-oriented. Chief Wahoo seems to be the symbol for the old-timers and long-time fans, and the reactions I’ve encountered when inquiring runs along the lines of, yeah, it’s probably insulting, but not to me, so what?

    Personally, I prefer the C logo, it’s more flexible to whatever surface presented, be it a mug, a bumper sticker, or a tattoo.

  40. 40.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: easy

  41. 41.

    ThresherK

    October 29, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    @Pogonip: I don’t have ESPN on all the time, but they have really steered away from That Other Insignia and towards the block red C on navy in the last couple of years.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 9:56 pm

    Ogunbawale is having a great night for the Badgers.

  43. 43.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:02 pm

    @Baud: LOL. Very good.

  44. 44.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, what determines the Hulkification then? Is it only the energy level of the gamma rays, or is it just the DNA of the subject, or some of both? What made Banner Hulk when someone else gets turned into Abomination?

  45. 45.

    Schlemazel

    October 29, 2016 at 10:04 pm

    @Mike J:
    Did you see the banner some Ohio HS cheerleaders made for their football game?
    “Indians get ready for a trail of tears”

    That is just lucking fovely

  46. 46.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 10:07 pm

    @ThresherK: Have they? I haven’t them on in 5 years or so.

  47. 47.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    @redshirt: All of them Katie.
    http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Gamma_Mutates

  48. 48.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 10:08 pm

    Holy cats, Santana almost took out Montgomery with a liner to the glove. Shit just got real.

  49. 49.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    @ThresherK: They’ll definitely go with whichever logo they make more money from, so buy “C” stuff and give it to everybody for Xmas, even those who think a game that can drag on for five hours and end in a 1-0 score is ridiculous.

    Not that I know anybody like that.

  50. 50.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:11 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Ah, yes. So is the Hulk (or Banner) a mutant? And if so, how is he legally allowed to live in the MCU?

  51. 51.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 10:12 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Adam’s like Ludwig von Drake, an expert on everything.

  52. 52.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    @redshirt: Predestination.

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    October 29, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I love this bit:

    The subject’s potential for mutation is dictated by certain mysterious “interstitial” segments of DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid),[citation needed]

    Yes, citation definitely needed.

  54. 54.

    burnspbesq

    October 29, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    somewhere around the middle of the ninth inning of game seven.

    The likelihood of a game seven is diminishing.

  55. 55.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hulkification as a form of Calvinism.

  56. 56.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 10:18 pm

    Now that I think about it, maybe the Tribe should ditch tge Chief because he hasn’t brought them any luck in 60 years!

    I never understood articles describing Wahoo as looking “fierce.” He always looked pretty happy to me!

  57. 57.

    Pogonip

    October 29, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    @redshirt: You’re pre-destined to Hell, so you might as well hulk out now? It may catch on. The original Calvinism did.

  58. 58.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:21 pm

    @Pogonip: Or you could Hulk out in Hell, and what could the Devil do then?

    Gads, tell me there’s been a “Hulk in Hell” storyline. Adam?

  59. 59.

    ThresherK

    October 29, 2016 at 10:23 pm

    @Schlemazel: It was “second trail of tears”, i.e. the team named Indians was going to lose the football game was the banner’s taunt.

    I’m wondering who the oldest person was to sign off on this thing.

  60. 60.

    burnspbesq

    October 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    The pitch that got Contreras was severely nasty.

  61. 61.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    @redshirt: Difference between mutates and mutants according to Marvel continuity. As for being in the MCU: film rights for the the Incredible Hulk and related characters was licensed to Universal. They have since gotten them back for producing a film, but Universal still maintains the distribution rights under the licensing agreement. This is why Hulk, Bruce Banner, and Thunderbolt Ross can be used within non Hulk branded/focused MCU movies right now. To make another stand alone Hulk film – adapted from a comics arc or not – would require Marvel (Disney) and Universal to work out a mutually acceptable agreement to distribute a movie/series of movies. Marvel has done this with Spider-Man and the related characters. This is why even though Sony retains both production and distribution rights, they decided to sub the characters back to Marvel for use in both MCU movies and to produce the next series of Spider-Man movies. Sony’s decision was partially based on the fact that the MCU has produced nothing but hits with its offerings while Sony’s Spider-Man movies have been hit and miss. More info here:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-cronin/does-marvel-not-own-the-rights_b_9067512.html

    My guess is that if the third Thor movie does well, given that part of the storyline appears to be adapted from Planet Hulk, momentum may build for one or more standalone Hulk movies and Universal, recognizing that they can either share the profit if they play ball or make no money while watching Marvel make money having the Hulk and related characters appear in MCU non-Hulk movies, will get their act together. The real question is how to set up the story arcs for the movies? If you do a full on World War Hulk leading to a proper Planet Hulk, then the character is gone on Sakarsenn and unavailable for anything further without a major plot development.

  62. 62.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 10:26 pm

    @redshirt: Go work on your bunker.

  63. 63.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Compound!

  64. 64.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:27 pm

    @Pogonip: I have no idea who that is.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Five point Calvinist Hulks. Oy vey…

  66. 66.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:28 pm

    @dmsilev: I didn’t write it, I just googled “gamma mutates” and posted the resulting link.

  67. 67.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:30 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Wow, I knew everything you just typed EXCEPT that there’s a difference between mutates and mutants. Not sure I understand the difference, but as always, I appreciate your thoroughness.

    Also, so excited for Thor:Ragnarok. Not only will it be partially Planet Hulk, but also the opening chapters of Infinity War.

  68. 68.

    Schlemazel

    October 29, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @ThresherK:
    I got the reference, didn’t see “second’ on the short video I guess.

    If any adult agreed to that they should spend the rest of the year living on Pine Ridge in hopes they could learn something.

    The kids should just fail American History

  69. 69.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 10:31 pm

    @efgoldman: Heh. No.

  70. 70.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    @redshirt: Hulk Vs. animated movie. The second half Loki separates Banner from the Hulk and directs the Hulk at Asgard. There’s a scene where the battle winds up in Hell.

  71. 71.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:35 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: You sure that wasn’t Hel?

  72. 72.

    bk

    October 29, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    Have the Cubs never seen a curve ball or a slider before this series?

  73. 73.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 10:36 pm

    @redshirt: Let me explain again. Without a bunker, you have a camp. Everyone asks you about your bunker construction because we wonder when it will be an actual compound.

  74. 74.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:37 pm

    @redshirt: My understanding, from when I still read the X-Men, is that mutants are born with their mutation. Its part of their inherited genetic makeup. And their powers eventually manifest – some, like Nightcrawler’s (blue fur, prehensile tail, reduced number of fingers and toes), at birth. Mutates are not born with their mutation. It is not inherited genetic makeup. Rather it develops after exposure to an external stimuli. Bite from a radioactive spider, exposure to a gamma explosion, exposure to a combination of super soldier serum and radiation to trigger its effect, things like that. Captain America is a mutate. Black Widow, because of the treatments in the Red Room Project, is a mutate. Bucky Barnes/the Winter Soldier is a mutate, etc. Wolverine, Cyclops, Kitty Pryde, etc are mutants.

  75. 75.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:38 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Your Midwestern definitions don’t apply here.

  76. 76.

    Schlemazel

    October 29, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    oh dear, sorry cubbies, looks like this might not be your year

  77. 77.

    Gin & Tonic

    October 29, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    I guess I can hit the hay early.

  78. 78.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    What the HELL, Grimm? WHAT THE HELL?

    Cats in a fracking handbag.

  79. 79.

    Marc

    October 29, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    …and game.

  80. 80.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:40 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: For further clarification then, where does Deadpool fit into this scheme as presented in his movie?

  81. 81.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    @Schlemazel: They frankly need more heartbreak to truly be worthy. Cleveland has it already.

  82. 82.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    @redshirt: potato potato

  83. 83.

    Mary G

    October 29, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    Poor Cubs fans, not looking too good.

  84. 84.

    Marc

    October 29, 2016 at 10:42 pm

    On the bright side, there aren’t many teams with a streak lastingmore than a century.

    We’ll always have the Cubs…

  85. 85.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Well, alrighty then.

  86. 86.

    Eric S.

    October 29, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Total lack of crowd noise for the last 5 or 10 minutes. This has become ugly, fast.

  87. 87.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:45 pm

    @redshirt: He’s a mutate. But because he was an associated character of the X-Men/mutant related properties, because he was part of the Weapons X program, his rights belong to Sony as do the X-Men and all the other mutants. Marvel got around this with Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver by redubbing them “wonders” and having them redone as mutates. Their powers are the result of purposeful exposure to an Infinity Stone on orders of Baron Strucker/Hydra. This sort of tracks with comic book continuity where they’ve been both mutants (as Magneto’s children) and mutates not related to Magneto at all.

  88. 88.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    @redshirt: Midwestern? How much time have you spent in military? Build a bunker and everyone will concede that you have a compound. Until then, you have a camp.

  89. 89.

    Another Scott

    October 29, 2016 at 10:47 pm

    ObOpenThread: Podesta’s comments on Comey’s letter.

    Not a whole lot new there, but it’s good to see that he’s pressing for Comey to answer the questions that people have.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  90. 90.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    October 29, 2016 at 10:51 pm

    @Schlemazel: Oh, yep. It’s not like the thorough explanation makes anything better.

    I wonder if there’s a First Nations group who saw this, and decided the public response to this was enough of a outcry that they just a released.a statement rather than holding a press conference. I’ll be interested in seeing how this plays out.

    Then again I don’t spend lots of time in the lower reaches of our media. I’m sure Hannity or Savage will find some guest to try handwaving this away.

  91. 91.

    BruceFromOhio

    October 29, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    Miller time!

  92. 92.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @Another Scott: Just put a new Comey post up. Michael Isikoff committed an act of journalism. This story is quickly becoming about Comey and Isikoff’s reporting has moved that along quite nicely.

  93. 93.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: And finally, then, where do the Inhumans fit into all this?

  94. 94.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 10:54 pm

    @efgoldman: Perhaps a redoubt or a holdfast?

  95. 95.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ask a Canadian about their camp.

    Ask David Koresh about his compound.

  96. 96.

    Schlemazel

    October 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    if not a citadel.

  97. 97.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Both apply far better than camp. I’m perplexed over Omnes fixation on the words “compound” and “camp”.

    A camp is a small thing. A single structure perhaps near other similar structures owned by other people. There might be 200 camps around a lake in close proximity to each other and with no barriers between each other.

    A compound is a multi-structure location with large degrees of physical separation – both in distance and in landmarks, walls, fences, etc – from other structures.

    A bunker is a fortified structure underground with the explicit purpose of defense against artillery.

    Not sure how these terms can so easily be confused.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @redshirt: I posit that Canadians’ camps lack bunkers. Koresh’s compound had a bunker.

  99. 99.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    @redshirt: They are ancient humans that were exposed to a not native to earth element called terrigen that mutated them into the most obnoxious characters ever created in graphic storytelling. I was never a big fan, with the exception of Lockjaw (who’s a good 500 lbs teleporting doggie? You are!), but if I recall correctly new Inhumans are born through normal procreation and their powers are awakened through exposure to terrigen.

    Marvel appeared to have tried to downplay the X-Men/mutants in comics and in animation in the hope it would drive down a potential market for more X-Men movies. They tried to replace them with the Inhumans, but that didn’t really work. They’re launching a whole new series of X-Men/mutant related comics and the Inhumans movie has been shelved indefinitely. And since the Fox X-Men movies are just well made enough to draw decent viewership and make decent money, the odds of the rights reverting back to Marvel are slim.

  100. 100.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well, yes, camps lack bunkers because they are not defensive structures. They’re fishing/hunting/swimming at the lake structures.

  101. 101.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:01 pm

    I guess ya’ll missed the picture of on of our bunkers.

  102. 102.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:02 pm

    “A bunker is a fortified structure underground with the explicit purpose of defense against artillery.” Who told you that?

  103. 103.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @raven: Don’t bunkers have to be below ground by definition?

  104. 104.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    @raven: The Internet.

  105. 105.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:04 pm

    Here’s the bunker line at CAMP ENARI.

  106. 106.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:05 pm

    @redshirt: Nah, I mean they offer protection but they also can be defensive positions. I spent many a night in them fuckers. (Better than the bush)

  107. 107.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    @raven: That doesn’t appear to be below ground at all.

    So what defines a bunker? Thick walls?

  108. 108.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    @redshirt: Koresh’s compound had a fortified, underground bunker. They’d fortified the basement of the main building and built tunnels connecting it to several different exit points if I’m recalling the research from my masters’ thesis correctly.

  109. 109.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @redshirt: That’s a cabana.

  110. 110.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    And then there was Bunkers Bunker, the Embassy in Saigon.

  111. 111.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Then would a basement with some lead walls count?

  112. 112.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:07 pm

    @redshirt: Hence my reason for asking if you had been in the military.

  113. 113.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    @redshirt: Somewhere you’re ass is safer than running around grabbing your dick.

  114. 114.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: That’s a regional difference then. No one here in Maine calls their shack on the lake a “Cabana”. They are camps. “Going to camp” is a big thing. Same as in Canada.

  115. 115.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I was accepted! Also grew up on various bases.

  116. 116.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:10 pm

    And then there is a revetment.

  117. 117.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    @raven: Nice sandbags!

  118. 118.

    Drunkenhausfrau

    October 29, 2016 at 11:13 pm

    Pro Trump Ricketts’ promised no Trump ads during playoffs or World Series. That’s all we’ve seen, and we’re in Chicago!! Frickin liar billionaires abusing the true fans.

  119. 119.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:14 pm

    Shitty picture because all I had was an instamatic but this is a bunker with a barbwire fence field in front of it. You’d put c-rat cans with rocks in them to make noise if someone was sneaking up on you. Then you could ignite a 55 gallon drum of fugas on them. Of course the sappers were so good they’d go through that shit like crap through a goose.

  120. 120.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Fucking A, we filled em and stacked em like a mofo.

  121. 121.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:16 pm

    @redshirt: Camp is a place with a bunch of cabins full of kids during the summer.

  122. 122.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Yes, there’s that too. Hardly a redoubt. Or a citadel. Or a compound.

  123. 123.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @redshirt: Do you have a DD-214?

  124. 124.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    @raven: We had hescos. I don’t think I saw one sandbag in Iraq. Just T-Walls, Jersey barriers, and Hescos.

  125. 125.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Is that the planet in Aliens?

  126. 126.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: We made our own sidewalks too, worked great in the monsoon season!

  127. 127.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    @raven: Dang, that looks miserable. I can feel the dampness coming through the photo.

  128. 128.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Progress, they still burn and stir in Afghanistan?

  129. 129.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    @redshirt: Just accept the definition…

  130. 130.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:20 pm

    @redshirt: Better than the bush.

  131. 131.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    @raven: I’m sure. It’s funny what can be made to seem better when you’ve seen much worse.

  132. 132.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:22 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: What do you call the place your relatives (and you?) go to in the Summer to spend a long weekend fishing and swimming on the lake? Not your home of course, but a secondary place used as a getaway.

  133. 133.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:24 pm

    @redshirt: Our cabin, obviously. We have no bunker.

  134. 134.

    bobbo

    October 29, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    This is excellent news for Hillary Clinton. Local team (Cleveland, OHIO) winning gives the incumbent an extra 1% of the vote.

  135. 135.

    raven

    October 29, 2016 at 11:27 pm

    Well, the Braves won 14 straight division titles and ONE world series,.The shit is hard.

  136. 136.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Cabin and camp are used almost interchangeably here, with camp being the more common usage. “Going to camp this weekend George? Ayuh, I heah the fish are jumping” would go a typical exchange.

    If you’re so stuck on Army semantics that you can’t envision the difference between a “cabin” and a “compound”, I suggest you lighten up, Francis.

  137. 137.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:29 pm

    @raven: And yet somehow the Marlins, of all teams, have 2 titles in their short history.

  138. 138.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    @redshirt: Just build your bunker.

  139. 139.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Does a basement with lead walls count?

  140. 140.

    You

    October 29, 2016 at 11:33 pm

    @redshirt: Fuck if I know.

  141. 141.

    Omnes Omnibus,

    October 29, 2016 at 11:35 pm

    @redshirt: Fuck if I know.

  142. 142.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    @raven: Better than being in the muck.

  143. 143.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:37 pm

    @redshirt: No.

  144. 144.

    Tom Q

    October 29, 2016 at 11:43 pm

    @redshirt: Without ever winning the division. /Oldtimer who still hates wild cards

  145. 145.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:44 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Well then, before I begin, can you give me the Omnes approved definition of a bunker? How deep does it need be? How thick the wall? What floorplan must it follow? Do I need a grenade sump(s)? Please be as specific as possible, since I would not want to err on the Word of Omnes.

  146. 146.

    Gravenstone

    October 29, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    @Drunkenhausfrau: You do know that Ricketts has no control over national ad buys from the Trump campaign, right?

  147. 147.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:46 pm

    @redshirt: You just need a bunker. It doesn’t need to be a good one.

  148. 148.

    Adam L Silverman

    October 29, 2016 at 11:48 pm

    @raven: Prepped for AF twice, was sent to Carlisle Barracks. I would assume so. They burned a lot of the waste/garbage in Iraq. Some of the bigger bases – FOBs and camps and the bigger/more modern COPs – had proper human waste disposal. But I’ve been to several COPs and Patrol Bases that had piss tubes and burn shitters.

  149. 149.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    @Tom Q: I like the Wild Cards a lot, as it keeps a lot more teams, and a lot more fans, interested at the end. Surely the best team will win out, right?

    Imagine the old school days. The American League winner met the National League winner for the World Series. The end.

    And while that no doubt produced some years of high excitement, I bet there were plenty more other years where the winner of each league was settled pretty far in advance, and as such, who cares anymore?

    Sure, does the wild card give the not best team that year a chance to win it all? Yes. And in that way it’s not fair I suppose. But I look it at it more like the qualification to a second season. If you make it to the second season, everyone starts out anew, and anything can happen.

    That’s far more exciting in concept and in reality to me, even if my team gets hosed.

  150. 150.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Define a bunker.

  151. 151.

    Steeplejack

    October 29, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    Much as I enjoy the (presumably good-natured) tweaking of Redshirt, I call bullshit on all this.

    “Fishing camps” and “hunting camps” are well-known things that don’t (necessarily) involve cabanas or kids in the summer, and compounds don’t have to contain a bunker except in the narrow military sense. For years the press has referred to the “Kennedy compound” in Hyannis Port or the “Bush compound” in Kennebunkport. Just last week I read that infotainment weasel Matt Lauer bought Richard Gere’s “sprawling Hamptons compound” (for $36.5 million!). They may all contain bunkers, but probably not. And certainly a bunker is not a requirement to have a (civilian) compound.

    If you guys want to follow through on your mil-speak rigor, you should probably start complaining when anybody says “one o’clock” instead of “1300 hours.”

  152. 152.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 29, 2016 at 11:53 pm

    @redshirt: Look it up.

  153. 153.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:54 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Much as I enjoy the (presumably good-natured) tweaking of Redshirt, I call bullshit on all this.

    “Fishing camps” and “hunting camps” are well-known things that don’t (necessarily) involve cabanas or kids in the summer, and compounds don’t have to contain a bunker except in the narrow military sense. For years the press has referred to the “Kennedy compound” in Hyannis Port or the “Bush compound” in Kennebunkport. Just last week I read that infotainment weasel Matt Lauer bought Richard Gere’s “sprawling Hamptons compound” (for $36.5 million!). They may all contain bunkers, but probably not. And certainly a bunker is not a requirement to have a (civilian) compound.

    If you guys want to follow through on your mil-speak rigor, you should probably start complaining when anybody says “one o’clock” instead of “1300 hours.”

    Freaking sanity at last. Thank you.

  154. 154.

    redshirt

    October 29, 2016 at 11:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: No sir, I’m certain I need the A-1 Spec Grade A definition of bunker so as not to fall afoul of your rulings in the future.

  155. 155.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    October 29, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    @Steeplejack: Just last week I read that infotainment weasel Matt Lauer bought Richard Gere’s “sprawling Hamptons compound” (for $36.5 million!).

    Oy. That hack has that kind of money to spend on a summer place. And I’m sure he’s all about “entitlement” “reform” because sanctimonious/self-important/argle-bargle

  156. 156.

    Steeplejack

    October 30, 2016 at 12:02 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    They’re all just regular joes who are concerned citizens.

    O’Reilly has a modest place in Montauk—only $8.5 million. Not even a compound. Sad.

  157. 157.

    Steeplejack

    October 30, 2016 at 12:06 am

    @efgoldman:

    I’m watching! Just had to weigh in because the bunkering was getting on my last nerve.

    Vols had a close loss to South Carolina too.

    ETA: And Clemson scores!

  158. 158.

    redshirt

    October 30, 2016 at 12:07 am

    @efgoldman: lol. That’s a good one.

    I don’t understand college football. I like pro football. But college football is like a big colorful tie dye tshirt of crooked priorities. And without attending one of those big football schools, I’m not sure how/why to root for any of them. To care. Whenever I hear college football analysis, it is ALWAYS the same thing: Well I think so and so is Number 1; Well I think such and such is number one and that’s because…. and so on. So boring. So arbitrary. So…Crooked.

  159. 159.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 30, 2016 at 12:15 am

    @redshirt: Go blow a goat.

  160. 160.

    redshirt

    October 30, 2016 at 12:20 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Omnes, please.

  161. 161.

    Steve in the ATL

    October 30, 2016 at 12:27 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Oy. That hack has that kind of money to spend on a summer place.

    Does a “summer place” have to have a bunker? Or a cabana? Or just something gingham?

  162. 162.

    Prescott Cactus

    October 30, 2016 at 12:29 am

    As the Dalai Lama has said

    “It’s the Chicago Cubs, What is happening in October is what should normally have transpired in September”

  163. 163.

    redshirt

    October 30, 2016 at 12:30 am

    @Prescott Cactus: I thought he said “Gunga… Gunga Lunga, Gungalungagalanga”.

  164. 164.

    Steeplejack

    October 30, 2016 at 12:39 am

    @Steve in the ATL:

    Calico curtains lend a breezy, summertime look. Gingham works too, I guess.

  165. 165.

    janelle

    October 30, 2016 at 7:44 am

    I will always adore Jon Hamm.

    That is all.

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