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Day Six of the Plague

by John Cole|  February 13, 20178:04 pm| 164 Comments

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Broke down, called the doctor, and there apparently so much of this going around that they just called in a prescription for antibiotics for me.

This iteration of whatever I have sucks.

This makes me very happy:

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  1. 1.

    rikyrah

    February 13, 2017 at 8:06 pm

    Get better Cole.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    February 13, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    I was deathly ill last week. Feel better.

  3. 3.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 13, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    The kid, the wife and I had “the cold” this year; lasted about a week.

  4. 4.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 13, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Baud: We all had it early in the season(fall).

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    I had it between Christmas and New Year, and a few days into January. It’s miserable. Hope you feel better soon.

  6. 6.

    aimai

    February 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    I’ve had a long run of stuff: broken foot, torn meniscus, broken toe, stomach flu, chest cold. Now my daughter’s winter boots have fallen apart and she is taking mine to school, and I will have to wear some ten year old boots that leak like mad because: I’m the mommy. Le sigh.

  7. 7.

    khead

    February 13, 2017 at 8:19 pm

    Are you well enough to play Ultimate General, Civil War Cole? Because I forked over some cash after your tweet last week and wanted to say thanks for the push. That game is rather addictive.

  8. 8.

    Woodrowfan

    February 13, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    me too, ugh.

  9. 9.

    Percysowner

    February 13, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    I had the awful between Christmas and New Year’s. Sadly mine turned into bronchitis. I feel fine but I’m still coughing.

  10. 10.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 13, 2017 at 8:23 pm

    Feel better, Cole.

  11. 11.

    SFAW

    February 13, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    I hope you feel better, soon, John.

    Re: the GIF (or whatever): is that Shitgibbon in front of Lincoln? And is he saluting? I was under the impression that it was considered poor form for a civilian to salute, even if he is Shitgibbon-in-Chief. Of course, since I’ve never served, I realize I could be completely full of shit (i.e., more so than normal).

  12. 12.

    oldster

    February 13, 2017 at 8:25 pm

    Yeah, when I saw that gif I knew that it would hit your sweet-spot, Cole,

    Mine too, I confess.

  13. 13.

    Calming Influence

    February 13, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    Fluids. Plenty of fluids.

    And surround yourself with pets.

  14. 14.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    Speaking of the plague, last week my pediatrician called to tell me that the 10 year old’s Strep Throat had morphed into Scarlet Fever, he was already on antibiotics, so there was no change to the treatment. I just thought it was funny because I had been watching Mercy Street and they were in the midst of an epidemic. Weird.
    He’s fine now, who knew that Scarlet Fever was still a thing in this day and age.

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 8:30 pm

    You’re better off than the guy who jumped in front of this train.

    Incidentally, I’m going to be suuuuper late for dinner.

  16. 16.

    Pogonip

    February 13, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    I had to go to urgent care last week, my dr was booked solid, and when I got there the entire waiting room sounded as bad as I, or worse. The version going around West Deplorable usually leads to bronchitis and is highly contagious. So I got to stay home for several days, but was too sick to enjoy it.

    Everyone get well soon!

  17. 17.

    Pogonip

    February 13, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    @Percysowner: The pharmacy gave me a different cough pill brand than the Mylan they usually give out. This time it was Teva. I haven’t coughed in 3 days. (The brand name will be somewhere on all the paperwork, usually in itty-bitty type.)

  18. 18.

    Wapiti

    February 13, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    Sorry for the military outburst, but why the fuck is Trump saluting? They’re both civilians.

  19. 19.

    aimai

    February 13, 2017 at 8:37 pm

    @hovercraft: My grandmother used to tell me about getting scarlet fever as a little girl and how all her things were taken away from her and burned in the quarantine.

  20. 20.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 8:38 pm

    I forgot to add, I funkin love that GIF. You just know that given his addiction to the media and social media, these memes and the hate directed his way is just driving him nuts. It wasn’t supposed to be like this, he won, where is the love, the adulation, the respect? Why does everyone hate him so much, he won which means America won, why aren’t you acting like it?

  21. 21.

    Spanky

    February 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    I’m OK, but a friend who went to urgent care on Friday for stomach cramps turned out to have colon cancer. They operated yesterday and we’ll have to see what the tests return tomorrow.

    A cold I think I can handle, even (maybe) if it morphs into something more serious.

  22. 22.

    Shana

    February 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @Wapiti: Because he doesn’t know any better what’s appropriate and what’s not appropriate. I have a feeling I’m going to be writing this same thing a lot over the next 4 years, or less if we’re lucky.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    February 13, 2017 at 8:39 pm

    @Wapiti: Because he’s a moron who hasn’t bothered to learn protocol, one of many many things that he hasn’t bothered to learn about.

    Just in case you were actually asking.

  24. 24.

    wvng

    February 13, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    I’m on day six too, started antibiotics midday Saturday and saw some improvement in 10 hours, at least the fever dropped from 103 to 101 then 100. As always, I have no way to know it the improvements happened because of the antibiotics, but I’ll sure take the improvements. I hope it helps you, John.

  25. 25.

    Singing Truth to Power

    February 13, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    I thought I had altitude sickness last week – but no – it’s pneumonia! Do you know how far up your nose they stick that swab to check for influenza? Feel better soon, John –

  26. 26.

    Nicole

    February 13, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    Yuck. My husband has been miserable since Friday with something. I thought he just caught whatever the six-year-old and I had (and still have, in that we both still have a cough), but now I’m worried he brought something new into the apartment because he’s got symptoms we didn’t get.

  27. 27.

    dmsilev

    February 13, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @Spanky: Yuck. Best wishes to your friend. That’s basically the same thing that happened with my dad: had a cough that didn’t go away, saw the doctor, CT scan showed a mass, a few days later he’s in the hospital being prepped for chemo.

    (so far, so good; we’ll get a better sense of how the treatment is progressing in about a week when he gets a PET scan)

  28. 28.

    Gravenstone

    February 13, 2017 at 8:44 pm

    @hovercraft: A couple of years ago my girlfriend’s daughter went from strep to scarlet and all the way to rheumatic fever. So yeah, still things in this day and age of “modern” medicine.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    February 13, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    This thread is going downhill fast. I’m leaving before I come down with leprosy.

  30. 30.

    PsiFighter37

    February 13, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    Mnuchin confirmed 53-47. Guess which ‘Democrat’ voted for him?

  31. 31.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @PsiFighter37: the one who’s still better than any republican?

  32. 32.

    delk

    February 13, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    I’m celebrating Valentine’s Day by having a brain MRI performed.

  33. 33.

    Mike in NC

    February 13, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @Wapiti: Saluting was simply another dumb ass thing that began with Reagan.

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 8:52 pm

    The good news is if this is day six, you’re up to boils. The bad news is violent and possibly fiery hail is up next.

  35. 35.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    @aimai: OT: Did you see my comment the other day?

  36. 36.

    PsiFighter37

    February 13, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    According to this link from a local paper, Trump is going back to Mar-A-Lago for a third straight weekend. What a lazy fucking asshole. Of course, there are no Republican complaints about this because IOKIYAR.

  37. 37.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 8:54 pm

    @khead: Do not challenge MG Buford at the edge of McPhearson’s Wood at Gettysburg. Or attempt to charge across the wheat field to the high water mark. It does not end well.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Scarlet fever? Yikes! Like you, I had no idea it was still a thing. Hope your youngster recovers swiftly and comfortably.

  39. 39.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    @hovercraft:

    my pediatrician called to tell me that the 10 year old’s Strep Throat had morphed into Scarlet Fever

    My dad caught Scarlet Fever as a toddler, some time before 1920. That may be the reason he was 5’2″ and all his brothers were 5’10” to 6′. His legs were stunted.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @Wapiti:

    Sorry for the military outburst, but why the fuck is Trump saluting? They’re both civilians.

    Is that a thing, anyhow? To salute a statue?

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    February 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I wonder how much he’s charging the government for housing the Secret Service and the rest of his entourage. Not “is he charging”, since that’s a given, but how much.

  42. 42.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 8:58 pm

    @Pogonip:

    This time it was Teva.

    They make medicine out of sandals? Or the other way around?

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:00 pm

    @Spanky:

    Ah shit. I’m sorry about your friend and wish him/her a full, speedy, and comfortable recovery.

  44. 44.

    Jeffro

    February 13, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    It’s all going to happen fast and furious this week – Trump was warned that Flynn was vulnerable to Russian blackmail due to his conversations with them.

    Flynn seems to be loyal to his causes…I think it’s more likely than not that he exits stage Lenin and takes the fall for this one. Excited to see how Priebus and Spicer try to spin it. I’m guessing they’ll say Flynn was doing nothing more than trying to temper Russia’s reactions in the face of an ill-advised move by Obama, yadda yadda yadda and wait to see if the interest in Russia dies down again.

    Let’s not let that happen!

  45. 45.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:01 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The good news is if this is day six, you’re up to boils.

    When do the frogs come? Because i want to make sure to be inside.

  46. 46.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    I’m guessing a certain senator whose surname is ALMOST an anagram of “Mnuchin.”

    Do I get any kind of prize?

  47. 47.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Ah, the flutterin blue goofus. . .

  48. 48.

    Jeffro

    February 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    (meaning, let’s make it an integral part of every MoC’s town hall meetings from now until 2018: “Why aren’t you demanding a full investigation of how far back Flynn was colluding with a hostile foreign power?!?!?”)

  49. 49.

    Jeffro

    February 13, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    In the waning days of the Obama administration, James R. Clapper Jr., who was the director of national intelligence, and John Brennan, the CIA director at the time, shared Yates’s concerns and concurred with her recommendation to inform the Trump White House. They feared that “Flynn had put himself in a compromising position” and thought that Pence had a right to know that he had been misled, according to one of the officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.

    A senior Trump administration official said that the White House was aware of the matter, adding that “we’ve been working on this for weeks.”

    The current and former officials said that although they believed that Pence was misled about the contents of Flynn’s communications with the Russian ambassador, they couldn’t rule out that Flynn was acting with the knowledge of others in the transition.

    Now that there’s an interesting tidbit…

  50. 50.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    @delk:

    I’m celebrating Valentine’s Day by having a brain MRI performed.

    I wish you only well, and hope it’s a nothing. Forty-one years ago, I celebrated Valentine’s Day by having an abortion. Legally and safely and without incident and completely by my deliberate choice, I might add.

  51. 51.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 9:05 pm

    I know everybody here’s been saying that we’ll be at “what did trump/Pence know and when did they know it” territory soon but I did not expect it to be as soon as it’s looking like it might be.

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Frogs? Locusts?

    ETA: Shakes fist at efgoldman @45.

  53. 53.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 13, 2017 at 9:06 pm

    Good lord, this is a sick group. And in case you’re in doubt, I mean physically. Everybody take your medicine, get some sleep, and feel better.

  54. 54.

    p.a.

    February 13, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Good luck trying to prove tRump knew anything at any time. About anything.

  55. 55.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Could Flynn (or others) possibly be indictable over this business? Not that I’d expect any RWNJ AG or USA to do it.
    But strictly a civilian, matter, right? He’s retired from active service?

  56. 56.

    delk

    February 13, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: They are trying to find out what is causing my adrenal insufficiency. I have a bone scan ordered after the MRI.

  57. 57.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:12 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Frogs? Locusts?

    You haven’t read them out, with drops of wine, every year for mmph years

  58. 58.

    Spaniel

    February 13, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @Wapiti:

    Could it be that he played soldier in a high school military academy?

  59. 59.

    CaseyL

    February 13, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    Washington state has a record number of flu deaths this year, but I haven’t heard anything about Scarlet Fever. And, yeah, I didn’t know that was still around, or still called that.

    Take care, all you (physically) sick people! Get well soon, and try not to spread whatever you have around too much!

  60. 60.

    Zinsky

    February 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: I agree, IOL. I think the armchair generals on this blog need to get out of their comfy recliners and get a little exercise once in a while. They might not get sick so often, because exercise strengthens your immune system. Try it sometime…

  61. 61.

    Miss Bianca

    February 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    @efgoldman: at least he survived. My great-uncle died of scarlet fever when he was 10. According to family lore, my great-grandmother was so devastated she was never the same afterwards.

  62. 62.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    House OversightDems ‏@ OversightDems 2h2 hours ago

    BREAKING: All OGR Dems 2 Chaffetz: Investigate Flynn or Step Aside to Allow Committee to Vote on Oversight Steps

  63. 63.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    @delk:

    I have a bone scan ordered after the MRI.

    As we noted with raven last week: these tests are a pain in the ass, but they are all non-invasive.

  64. 64.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Well, true, but the Presbyterian grandmother who raised me knew what was what.

  65. 65.

    zhena gogolia

    February 13, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Wapiti:

    Is he saluting or picking his nose?

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady:

    Good lord, this is a sick group. And in case you’re in doubt, I mean physically.

    I think you were right the first time.

  67. 67.

    dmsilev

    February 13, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Let’s not be hasty here. First things first: Did Flynn send any emails to anyone ever?

  68. 68.

    Mike J

    February 13, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Because he’s a moron who hasn’t bothered to learn protocol,

    The White House released a statement today in which they misspelled the name of Colombia.

  69. 69.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 13, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    Do not look at this picture of Donald Trump. He doesn’t like it when people look at pictures like this.

  70. 70.

    Suzanne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: That is a good way to “celebrate” the most overrated holiday. I will probably celebrate it by working late.

    I actually like the idea of having a day to remember the blessings that romantic love brings to our lives and our culture, but I also reflexively don’t like things that other people like. So I am torn.

  71. 71.

    zhena gogolia

    February 13, 2017 at 9:18 pm

    @delk:

    Praying for a good outcome.

  72. 72.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Is he saluting or picking his nose?

    Yes, yes he is

  73. 73.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:19 pm

    @Jeffro: @Jeffro: The only two questions that needs to be asked at this point, as I wrote during the transition, are what did the President know and when did he know it? That’s it. And remember, LTG Flynn does not go quietly when he’s pushed out. He’s where he is now because he came to believe he was professionally destroyed because President Obama didn’t like him.

  74. 74.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @Gravenstone:
    Fortunately he is fine the antibiotics did the job, he’s back in school. He’s the antithesis of your average male patient, though, he becomes less energetic, loses his appetite, but rarely complains, except when you remind him he’s supposed to be sick, then he’ll play sick for about a minute.

    She ducks and hides.

  75. 75.

    Ohio Mom

    February 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @delk: Did you ever have a MRI before? They are noisy. I asked for ear plugs.

  76. 76.

    zhena gogolia

    February 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    OMG, what a hideous human being, inside and out.

  77. 77.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: He doesn’t know shit, now.

  78. 78.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    at least he survived. My great-uncle died of scarlet fever when he was 10.

    I have photos of my great-aunt as a little girl (6-ish, maybe? — sometime in the mid1890s). She had just recovered from scarlet fever and for reasons I never quite understood, they had to cut off her hair. It looks like a nightmarish haystack in the pictures, but she ended up a rather spectacular redhead and caused all kinds of merry hell as a WWI Red Cross nurse in France, 1917-18.

  79. 79.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    ETA: Shakes fist at efgoldman @45.

    This is not a biblical plague. Not even in the revised version.

  80. 80.

    ? Martin

    February 13, 2017 at 9:21 pm

    @efgoldman: If what we are being told by WaPo is true, then yes, he could be indicted. I doubt very much it would happen (even with Dems running the show) but I think per the letter of the law he’s crossed that line.

    I think it’s very apparent that had Clinton been elected and this happened, the House would already be picking their impeachment subcommittee.

  81. 81.

    zhena gogolia

    February 13, 2017 at 9:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Anna Karenina has her hair all cut off when she gets puerperal fever. I’m not sure what that was all about.

  82. 82.

    khead

    February 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    Scarlet fever. What. The. Hell.

  83. 83.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    @efgoldman: Depending on what the contacts were with the Russians and what information was conveyed, he could face criminal charges. As for the military side, he’s only been retired about 2 years. He’s subject to recall. And retired general officers/flag officers receiving foreign payments or gifts is sort of a funky, grey area. Which is why a bunch of Congressional Democrats have asked the DOD for an investigation of some of Flynn’s post retirement activities.

  84. 84.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    If you want to get better just sit and look at that gif you posted. LMAO.
    Due to some issues that I have the VA docs just went from – this stuff should help you and it has almost no side effects (but is not really working) to – here, try this scheduled drug and see if it helps without causing you to be a babbling idiot or fall down, a lot. Not as bad as the last thing they tried which gave me some not so nice hallucinations (apparently only 2-3% of patients have any side effects, the old guy who prescribed had never had a patient with side effects and didn’t believe me) So now I’m on 7 different meds per day. Nothing curative, just maintenance stuff which loses effectiveness as time goes on, so I’ve got that going for me.
    It is nice to be getting old. Can not imagine what it would be like to be homeless and without healthcare at this point in my life. Just voted for LA county prop H, which raises sales tax 1/2% specifically to help the homeless. Don’t know if it will do any good but every little bit helps.

  85. 85.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 13, 2017 at 9:23 pm

    @delk: I have bone scans because of osteopenia. Easiest test I ever take. You don’t even have to get undressed.

  86. 86.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:24 pm

    @Zinsky: I’m in the gym a minimum of four days a week for a minimum of 90 minutes at a time I walk the dogs several miles a week. And I teach martial arts. I was very ill for most of last week. Hit fast midday Monday and knocked me on my tuchas through Thursday.

  87. 87.

    Iowa Old Lady

    February 13, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @Mike J: The man’s official inauguration poster has a “to” where it should have a “too.” I had to lie down when I saw that one.

  88. 88.

    delk

    February 13, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @efgoldman: Yeah, I know the are non-invasive and truly a pain in the ass. I have 10 different doctor appointments in February (not counting my weekly psychologist session). Hopefully they will find the problem. That said, I feel the better than I have in over a year.

  89. 89.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @raven: Given that he uses an unsecured, out of date and as a result out of updating specs Android phone, I’m sure there’s a transcript or two in the IC that could confirm or deny that.

  90. 90.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 13, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    I am sick too. No physical cause found but I can has stress. Yay!

  91. 91.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Keel haul him!

  92. 92.

    delk

    February 13, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: Yeah, I’m have osteopenia as well. Just checking if it has worsened. It’s a side affect of one of my HIV meds.

  93. 93.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: We finished season 1 of Indian Summers and at no point did they say anything about the dude becoming the viceroy!

  94. 94.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 13, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Feel better Cole and all others who’ve got this crud. @ delk: I hope they can get to an answer and a good treatment. As OhioMom notes, MRIs are noisy, and ear plugs are a must; some docs will get you an oral benzo, which can really help claustrophobic peeps.

    Speaking of Lincoln, I saw this gem on twitter:

    John Fugelsang Feb 12

    Somewhere in Heaven…
    Abraham Lincoln: The ppl who claim to be
    my followers just totally misquoted me.
    Jesus: You don’t say.

  95. 95.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    @Mike J:

    Seriously? Do they even believe in basic SpellCheck? There was also some kind of official portrait with a noticeable misspelling, and they had to pull it from the official site. These people take carelessness, incompetence, and don’t-give-a-shitness to entirely new levels.

  96. 96.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @raven: He’s a US Army general. I don’t think they keel haul anyone in the Army.

  97. 97.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Blanket party!

  98. 98.

    Miss Bianca

    February 13, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: yes, that used to be a thing, cutting off the hair when you had a high fever- I wonder why?

    Only a couple pictures of Alan survive – not sure what happened to the life-sized oil painting that had been in my grandmother’s house, but I still have a photo of him – he was a darling! I remember being so freaked out when I found out that the little boy in the pictures had died so young – think I was 10 myself when I heard it.

  99. 99.

    Lapassionara

    February 13, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: we may be in that territory, but the people who have the power to do something about it will be “nothing to see here, folks, move along.”

  100. 100.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 13, 2017 at 9:33 pm

    @raven: Julie Walters character wants him to get married so that he can be in contention for Viceroy, it was in the very first episode IIRC.

  101. 101.

    SFAW

    February 13, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Just in case you were actually asking.

    Well, I actually was.

  102. 102.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The U.S. Army had the largest fleet of vessels of any organization during World War II.

  103. 103.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    They are noisy. I asked for ear plugs.

    When I’ve had them, they gave me muff-like headphones/ear protectors. It’s also how they communicate with the patient (because the techs can’t be in the same room).

  104. 104.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Oh she’s such a pill!

  105. 105.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    everybody here’s been saying that we’ll be at “what did trump/Pence know and when did they know it”

    Problem is he knows nothing, so even if he knew about the calls, he probably didn’t know enough to see the problem. I’m not giving him a pass, he would be out there screaming at the top of his voice if the shoe was on the other foot. My point is that he is just a moron who repeats shit he hears other people saying without understanding what they mean. He’s ignorant enough to believe that when Nixon said “when the president does it it’s not illegal”, is the way our government actually works. From what I understand the Obama team warned them, they could have dumped him before they took office but chose not to. That is the Shitgibbon refusing to ever back down and appear “weak.” So now he just looks like an incompetent fool instead.

  106. 106.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 9:35 pm

    @SFAW:
    Navy here, I never did like saluting, especially under way. But then I also didn’t like being treated like a fourth class citizen by morons that knew far less than I did about the job they were supposed to be supervising me for. But it was part of the gig so that’s what we did.
    That said seeing this asshole salute Lincoln really does rankle. This asshole is unfit to scrape the dogshit off Lincoln’s shoes, let alone actually be thinking he can fill them.

  107. 107.

    Aleta

    February 13, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Why is his hair blowing up?

  108. 108.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    Anna Karenina has her hair all cut off when she gets puerperal fever. I’m not sure what that was all about.

    That was nasty, and often deadly, so I understand, but it happened to women in the immediate aftermath of childbirth, not to six-year-old girls. Would have to do more research or ask a doctor if there’s a relationship between the two types of “fever.” Don’t know why the haircuts.

  109. 109.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    February 13, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    Michael CalderoneVerified account
    ‏@ mlcalderone
    Omarosa threatened @ AprilDRyan, saying Trump officials had dossiers on her and several African American journalists:

    One of the sources for the “dossier”: An article from the Intercept claiming the Clinton campaign was paying Ryan. I’m sure RAHM! and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz play in there somewhere.

  110. 110.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @hovercraft: “That is the Shitgibbon refusing to ever back down and appear “weak.””

    Yea, he’s doing a job on them NK’s!

  111. 111.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    @Ruckus: Saluting in the bush was a good way to get a butter bar whacked!

  112. 112.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 13, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    @raven: Did you like it? I found most of the younger Indian actors highly irritating. Mr. Dalal was not a plausible Parsi. The Jewel in the Crown, based on the Raj Quartet is a much better series in this genre, in my opinion.

    ETA: This seemed like a soapier version of Raj nostalgia, kinda like Downton, but set in India.

  113. 113.

    delk

    February 13, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I have had many MRI’s. Over a dozen. My orthopedic place has brand new machines that are a bit more quiet. They have headphones with Spotify or Pandora. I count the songs to give me a rough idea of the time.

  114. 114.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @Ruckus:

    apparently only 2-3% of patients have any side effects, the old guy who prescribed had never had a patient with side effects

    Twice I was prescribed Norvasc, a very very common and usually harmless BP control drug. Twice three days of it and I was in the hospital with congestive heart failure, once in RI and one in VA. Neither cardiology department had ever seen that before. Now it’s in big red letters at the top of my record under “allergies.”

  115. 115.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    My friend found a picture of Flynn talking to Pence that looks like an awkward still from Arrested Development and captioned it “There’s a good chance I may have committed some light treason,” wish I could link at the moment but I’m still on my suicide-delayed train. Anywho it cracked me up.

    ETA: I also learned over lunch that Trump is taking Propecia, which just seems like a horrible fucking idea given the potential complications, does the president get to take whatever medicine they want even if it’s a pointless risk like that?

  116. 116.

    Aleta

    February 13, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @delk: Good luck with your tests. Hope you get some answers soon.

  117. 117.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @delk:
    Be right behind you with a C-Spin MRI. Already had the brain one over a year ago. I find out in April if I’m making any progress with the cancer. May not know for sure for 6 more months.

  118. 118.

    efgoldman

    February 13, 2017 at 9:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Do they even believe in basic SpellCheck? There was also some kind of official portrait with a noticeable misspelling

    They blinged blamed auto correct.

  119. 119.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @Suzanne:

    That is a good way to “celebrate” the most overrated holiday.

    Believe me, I was acutely aware of the irony!

  120. 120.

    raven

    February 13, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I dunno, we’re ignorant about India and all the carrying on betwixt the races was fun.

  121. 121.

    Mike in NC

    February 13, 2017 at 9:45 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Trump Admin: Mendacity Tempered By Incompetence

  122. 122.

    Tehanu

    February 13, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    Apparently in the 19th century they thought that cutting off hair could reduce fever. It was done to one of Laura’s sisters in one of the Little House on the Prairie books, and I vaguely remember somebody in one of Louisa May Alcott’s books too.

  123. 123.

    joel hanes

    February 13, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    Crabby at work all day. Headache.
    Went home — it’s my daughter’s birthday, the house is full of women I usually hug
    Gargled — damn, feels and looks like a throat infection
    No hugs for me, now hiding in bedroom while they do dinner and go to the movie together without me
    Fuck.

  124. 124.

    Lizzy L

    February 13, 2017 at 9:46 pm

    First two paragraphs from NYT Breaking News story:

    The Justice Department warned the White House that Mr. Flynn had misled senior Trump administration officials about whether he had discussed American sanctions against Vladimir V. Putin’s regime during a phone call with Russia’s ambassador to the United States weeks before the inauguration, and that he could be open to blackmail by Russia, said a former senior official.

    At the same time, Mr. Pence has told administration officials that he believes Mr. Flynn lied to him by saying he had not discussed the topic of sanctions on a call with the ambassador in late December. Even the mere discussion of policy — and the apparent attempt to assuage the concerns of an American adversary before Mr. Flynn took office — represents a remarkable breach of protocol.

  125. 125.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @efgoldman:

    They blinged blamed auto correct.

    Well, I do that, too, when I’m writing a quick comment on Balloon Juice or a hasty note to a friend on Facebook Messenger. BUT NOT WHEN IT’S MY OFFICIAL PRESIFUCKINGDENTIAL PORTRAIT!!

    ‘Scuse shouty, but these people are incompetent af and I will loudly point that out every chance I get.

  126. 126.

    Mike in NC

    February 13, 2017 at 9:48 pm

    @Ruckus: Well stated.

  127. 127.

    SFAW

    February 13, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Trump Admin: Mendacity Tempered By Incompetence

    Or vice versa.

  128. 128.

    Eric S.

    February 13, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I was shocked at my first MRI. Amazingly loud. On my 3rd, I fell asleep but I’m pretty sure that was the affects of beer the night before.

  129. 129.

    schrodingers_cat

    February 13, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @raven: I think I gave up after 3 episodes.

  130. 130.

    joel hanes

    February 13, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    in the 19th century they thought that cutting off hair could reduce fever.

    Still plausible.
    Those who dwell in the North know that most heat loss is through the top of the head, and that if your feet and hands are cold, you should first put on a nice warm hat.

    Laura’s sister Mary had scarlet fever, with fever temperatures so high she was delirious — so probably above 102 F. In such a case, anything you can do to bring down the fever is a good idea, because prolonged high fever can cause neurological damage — sponge-bathing with cool water, for example. And in the event, Mary Ingalls’s fever blinded her.

  131. 131.

    Gravenstone

    February 13, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    @delk:

    They have headphones with Spotify or Pandora.

    Damn, made me look that up – since you can’t use traditional magnetic speakers in an MRI. Figured they had to be some sort of acoustic device. Now I know.

  132. 132.

    Gelfling 545

    February 13, 2017 at 9:54 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: since both my kids got it some uears back, I knew it was a thing. They fortunately had no lasting effects. My brother went into rheumatic fever but that was in the 50s. I haven’t heard of a lot of cases since.

  133. 133.

    Gravenstone

    February 13, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Tehanu: To be fair, removing the hair would make the head a more efficient radiator as a means of lowering the body temperature. Still, a wee bit of overreaction.

  134. 134.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Tehanu:

    I expect it was more comfortable for the fever-sufferer (long hair gets sticky and itchy and just plain annoying), and probably a great deal more convenient for the mother or whoever was doing the nursing.

  135. 135.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @delk:
    Tried to edit #116 to tell you good luck.
    Was also going to list all the tests I’ve had in the last 3 yrs or am scheduled to have in the next 3 months but really, who needs to know.
    Anyway Good Luck!

  136. 136.

    JosieJ (not Josie)

    February 13, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    @delk:

    I had a full bone scan years ago. It’s not difficult to endure, as long as you remember to visit the loo beforehand! I forgot and spent a most unpleasant hour wrapped up like a mummy (so I couldn’t move) with a full bladder! I don’t know if they still wrap you up like that–as I said, this was years ago.

  137. 137.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 9:58 pm

    @joel hanes:

    It totally sucks. Hope you feel better soon. You made the right call to avoid hugging people and to stay home tonight.

  138. 138.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:
    They don’t do it in the navy any more either. Although I do remember one particular captain that seemed to deserve it. His rank was Asshole Deluxe. Or maybe that was his name.

  139. 139.

    Aleta

    February 13, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @Ruckus:

    C-Spin MRI

    For pain? Stenosis?
    I wish you well.

  140. 140.

    Alternative Fax, a hip hop artist from Idaho

    February 13, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:
    On the topic of VP Putin’s Circus Peanut and dossiers:

    John Schindler‏(@20committee):
    Correct
    Rick Wilson:
    He already has.
    David Weinstein:
    @TheRickWilson What is the % chance that #Trump will use Russian intelligence to spy on US political opponents?

  141. 141.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    I also learned over lunch that Trump is taking Propecia, which just seems like a horrible fucking idea given the potential complications

    I saw that a few days ago — his so-called “doctor” apparently takes it too, hence his own incredible soft, wavy, flowing mane — but I know nothing about what the potential complications are. Off to consult Mister Google, unless you or someone wants to enlighten me.

  142. 142.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    They probably cut the hair to help cool the body, that’s my best guess, but then again they also bled and purged people so there may have not been any good reason to do it other than quackery.

  143. 143.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @efgoldman:
    The VA has listed all of my failed meds under my allergies list. That triggers the inability for them to prescribe it again. Nice system.

  144. 144.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Alzheimer’s, for starters. EDIT: sorry, not that, but loads of serious cognitive stuff.

  145. 145.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Well, I found this list of the “less serious” side effects:

    impotence,
    loss of interest in sex,
    trouble having an orgasm,
    abnormal ejaculation,
    swelling in your hands or feet,
    swelling or tenderness in your breasts,
    dizziness,
    weakness,
    feeling like you might pass out,
    headache,
    runny nose, or
    skin rash.

    Okay, I can see why #5 might actually be a feature, not a bug, for Lord Smallgloves.

  146. 146.

    hovercraft

    February 13, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    @raven:
    It’s true that he’s about as effective as the last two presidents have been in getting NK to stop the missiles launches, ( Clinton made some headway, but then W had to go fuck that up, funny how the “tough” guys make the situation worse ), I’m grateful that he didn’t just fire off a couple of nukes to show his toughness.

  147. 147.

    daverave

    February 13, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    I just came down with chills, aches and tremors about 3 hours ago…. oh boy! Now I have to go to the airport to pick up my wife. I hope she can drive home. And I hope Oroville doesn’t give way in the next few hours, also, too.

  148. 148.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 13, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    @hovercraft: well, he had to show restraint in front of his good friend Shinzo.

  149. 149.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    @Aleta:
    We don’t know. It’s possible but they looked and continue to look at MS. If the C-Spine comes back benign then I think that lends a lot of weight to go the other way. But who knows, maybe I’m just an old fart. It’s not the only test that’s happening and I got the date wrong, it’s this Friday.

  150. 150.

    Ohio Mom

    February 13, 2017 at 10:19 pm

    @efgoldman: At my MRI, I had earphones, through which I heard the techs, and also through which was piped Frank Sinatra (that’s what the techs suggested; I noticed they offered gospel music to the older African American women entering the room as I was leaving).

    The music helped pass the time but the clanging was terrible so I asked for earplugs. I could still hear enough of Old Blue Eyes.

  151. 151.

    Ruckus

    February 13, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @daverave:
    That sounds…. not so good. Good luck and a small piece of advice, this sounds a bit much to just tough out.

  152. 152.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 10:22 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Alzheimer’s, for starters. EDIT: sorry, not that, but loads of serious cognitive stuff.

    As Dorothy Parker or someone said, when told that Calvin Coolidge had died: “How can they tell?”

  153. 153.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 13, 2017 at 10:23 pm

    @daverave:

    Oof. So sorry. Take care and feel better soon.

  154. 154.

    Singing Truth to Power

    February 13, 2017 at 10:26 pm

    @delk: For anyone facing an MRI who has claustrophobia, when I had the last one done, the tech put a cloth over my eyes. If I couldn’t see how small the tube was, it wasn’t an issue, and there was no claustrophobia.

  155. 155.

    Mnemosyne

    February 13, 2017 at 10:29 pm

    I was sick last week. Sore throat, fever, runny nose, cough, the whole 9 yards. I ended up taking two days off work.

    I’ve found in the past that if I try to push through it, I just make everything worse because it makes my asthma flare up, so now I try to rest up at the first sign of a cold and see if I can knock it out more quickly that way.

  156. 156.

    J R in WV

    February 13, 2017 at 11:35 pm

    When Mrs January had septic shock and was in MICU, they packed her in ice to lower her temperature. Big ice bags on her inner thighs. It musta helped, she lived w/o serious after effects. Indused coma, vent for 21 days.

    Near the end of her recovery the surgeon wanted to repair the leak causing her collapsed lung, and found she had necrotic tissue in the bottom lobe of her left lung. So the 20 minute minor procedure was more like 4 hours. But, again, complete recovery, OK at 7,000 feet in AZ, so good job at local teaching Hospital!

    Best of luck to everyone with health issues!!

    They do miracles every day now.

  157. 157.

    J R in WV

    February 13, 2017 at 11:49 pm

    @J R in WV:

    When Mrs. J. R. not Mrs January…. Damm auto word selection!!

  158. 158.

    manyakitty

    February 14, 2017 at 1:04 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Hey now, Passover isn’t until April!

  159. 159.

    Ruckus

    February 14, 2017 at 1:41 am

    @J R in WV:

    They do miracles every day now.

    There are days like this.

  160. 160.

    Calming Influence

    February 14, 2017 at 2:11 am

    Fluids, God damn it! All you sick assholes drink plenty of fluids! I’m not fucking around here; I don’t want to see a comment in a couple of days that
    “Oh yeah, commenter x won’t be showing up here any more because she died of scarlet fever; if only she had imbibed more fucking FLUIDS…”

  161. 161.

    Death Panel Truck

    February 14, 2017 at 2:11 am

    The wife and I went to pick up a prescription. We went to the drive-thru because the parking lot was packed. I wondered aloud why so many people were shopping at Walgreens at 7:30 p.m., and she reminded me that tomorrow is Valentine’s Day.

    I asked her, “You didn’t get me a card, did ya?” “No,” she replied. “Good,” I said, “because I didn’t get you one either.” “You know I love you, right?”

    “Of course, and you know I love you,” she said. We drove home and had dinner.

    This is the kind of conversation you can have with your spouse when you’ve been married for 27 years.

  162. 162.

    Larkspur

    February 14, 2017 at 2:27 am

    @CaseyL: I had scarlatina as a child. I just looked it up and it’s another name for scarlet fever. All this time I thought it was just a kind of a mild, semi-related version of scarlet fever, like scarlet fever lite. Huh. It was summer and I couldn’t go out and play and was miserable, but not for that long.

    I am pleased to report that the case of shingles I got on Xmas Day resolved completely within about three weeks. Yay. I was fortunate. Feeling pretty good physically right now, knock wood (raps knuckles smartly on side of head).

  163. 163.

    Larkspur

    February 14, 2017 at 2:46 am

    @Adam L Silverman: It’s none of my business, obviously, but you are so physically gigundous and so fit – I’m curious to know what your body fat percentage is. I’m guessing it’s in the mid to low teens.

  164. 164.

    Sanjuro

    February 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm

    I don’t see him saluting in the gif…I see him talking on a cell phone, which is an infinitely greater disrespect than improper saluting by a civilian.

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