Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Let me eat cake. The rest of you could stand to lose some weight, frankly.

Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

I like you, you’re my kind of trouble.

An almost top 10,000 blog!

Come on, man.

Balloon Juice has never been a refuge for the linguistically delicate.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

Everybody saw this coming.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

White supremacy is terrorism.

… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP

This has so much WTF written all over it that it is hard to comprehend.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

We still have time to mess this up!

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

This blog will pay for itself.

Let’s delete this post and never speak of this again.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

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  4. 4.

    zhena gogolia

    I am so deeply depressed. They have taken over the government by illegitimate means. They didn’t win the popular vote, and the Russians and Comey helped them win the electoral college. They are breaking every law and norm they can get their hands on. Even if Trump were to resign today (yes, I’d be happy!), all his appointees are there infecting our government and our society. I still cannot believe we’ve fallen so far, so fast.

  5. 5.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    I was helping my dad at his night job (custodian at an office building). We watched the speech in one of the offices during a break. I was 16 (gah) and already a political junkie; my mom and I had followed the hearings obsessively. I remember feeling relieved.

    Tonight–nothing so sublime. Grocery shopping and maybe an episode of Sherlock (I am slowly catching up. Yay for Netflix.)

  6. 6.

    TenguPhule

    Honorable Henry Kissinger.

    In the old days honor meant a glass of whiskey and a loaded revolver in the library.

  7. 7.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    I suspect that Mattis is backing up Twitler rhetorically because he has to.

  8. 8.

    JPL

    Is this normal?

    According to a source familiar with the investigation, Manafort was awoken by a group of armed FBI agents knocking on his bedroom door as they executed the warrant on July 26.

    Maybe his front door is also his bedroom door.. (kidding)

  10. 10.

    TenguPhule

    @zhena gogolia:

    I still cannot believe we’ve fallen so far, so fast.

    And are nowhere near rock bottom yet either.

    Remember, its not the fall that’s fatal, its the sudden stop at the end.

  11. 11.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    Y’know, I forgot that he handed the resignation to Kissinger. I suppose he was just guessing on the protocol – I’d think he’d hand it to Ford.

  12. 12.

    khead

    Bit of a side note….

    The Venn diagram of “folks who are upset over the Google Tech Bro firing” and “people who are ok with Colin Kaepernick flipping burgers” is pretty much a single circle.

  13. 13.

    A Ghost to Most

    Reposting from below:

    Also, if there are any Perl programmers, or UNIX dbas or sysadmins that need to manage (start, stop, restart, status) many disparate systems, I have some code for you, along with some XML files that are used to configure it. Command line UI
    Hella useful. Free to a good home.

  14. 14.

    JPL

    @zhena gogolia: I streamed Ozark and watched the ten episodes over a few nights. I slept like a baby both nights. At times I’ll watch violent shows, but not alone, since I’m prone to nightmares. The series was compelling enough though, that it took my mind off things I can’t control. The administration has changed my sleep habits.

  16. 16.

    Yarrow

    I cannot wait to see those words again with Trump’s signature under them. Or tweeted by him if that’s his choice. Sooner is better.

  17. 17.

    Eljai

    I have some fond memories of watching Watergate hearings with my dad when I was on summer vacation from school. I think I was a little disappointed when Nixon resigned. I wanted to see him get impeached.

  21. 21.

    tobie

    Ever since Trump’s conversation with Pena Nieto was released, I’ve been expecting a new youtube from Vicente Fox but thus far none has come to light. What a pity. I could really use some comic relief!

  27. 27.

    mai naem mobile

    I would be shocked if Dolt45 left in that fashion. He’s going to go tied up like a goose with lots of restraints to tie him down from doing something any more stupid stuff.

  28. 28.

    dexwood

    @Eljai:

    I watched the Watergate hearings on a small black and white TV with four others over five days in a lounge at St. Elizabeth’s hospital in Washington D.C. We drove down to the hospital everyday from Baltimore in one car to take part in a marijuana study. We were paid 50 bucks a day to smoke dope grown at the University of Mississippi that came in plain white packs and looked like unfiltered cigarettes. We were given tests involving memory, cognition, perception, and pain tolerance. Between the marijuana and the hearings, our breaks were a giggle-fest. We joked constantly about enjoying Tricky Dick’s stash.

  29. 29.

    encephalopath

    What’s with the cutesy Kissinger initials on the resignation like he’s a middle school child?

  30. 30.

    LAO

    I’m going for an early evening at the dog park since Maggie has finally been liberated from the cone of shame. Also planning to leave cellphone home as the real world is kicking my ass.

  32. 32.

    Nicole

    @dexwood: That’s a most excellent story. As coincidence would have it, I was part of a study today, but nothing as good as that.

    My husband remembers his mom watched the hearings nonstop and he thought it was really boring. Then again, he was seven.

  34. 34.

    dexwood

    @Nicole:
    Thank you. I hope you were well compensated. I was 21 and we were all students at the University of Maryland’s Baltimore County campus who answered a notice on a bulletin board. We were escorted to lunch everyday sharply at noon to the McDonald’s across the street. They treated us.

  35. 35.

    HeleninEire

    “Those were the days, my friends, we thought they’d never end. We’d sing and dance forever and a day. We’d live the life we choose, we’d fight and never lose. For we were young and sure to have our way.

    Thanks Anne Laurie for bringing me back to my childhood.

    One of the best songs ever.

  36. 36.

    AliceBlue

    If anyone’s in need of a laugh (and most people are these days), check out Randy Rainbow’s song parody videos. They’re wickedly to the point and funny as hell. My favorites are “The Room Where It Happened” and “Putin and the Ritz.”

  38. 38.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    The mention of TPM in a thread below (in admittedly not-glowing tones) made me decide to go take a look over there, as I haven’t read it in a while.

    Found this interesting take on why the financial investigation might be about more than the money. Apparently it’s a prosecutorial tactic for getting charges in espionage cases when the actual espionage evidence raises classification issues.

    “A lot of times the way you stay away from your classified information and being forced to reveal your sources and methods is you just track the money and the money speaks for itself,” she added.

  39. 39.

    Betty Cracker

    Wow, 43 years! I was too young to really understand what was happening, but I’ll never forget my mother’s utter joy at the news. She hated that sumbitch Nixon!

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @HeleninEire:

    One of the best songs ever.

    I agree. I love it.

    That said, I thought Anne Laurie was quoting the All in the Family theme song:

    (“Boy, the way Glenn Miller played
    Songs that made the Hit Parade.
    Guys like us, we had it made —
    Those were the days.”)

  41. 41.

    mai naem mobile

    @LAO: they’ll have to give him something in his two scoops of ice cream to sedate him and then cart him out in a delivery vehicle through the back door. What an ignominious end.

  42. 42.

    efgoldman

    @zhena gogolia:

    his appointees are there infecting our government and our society.

    The greatest majority of “appointees” are in fact, empty desks, chairs and offices. His immediate advisors can bloviate all they want, but without staff, assistants, and thousands of ordinary civil servants, there’s no-one to follow thru and implement things.
    The bark is fucking terrifying, but the bite isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.

  43. 43.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @encephalopath:

    What’s with the cutesy Kissinger initials on the resignation like he’s a middle school child?

    Kissinger’s official acknowledgement of personal receipt of the letter. I don’t know whether it’s legally required, but it’s certainly customary.

  45. 45.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    From a Buzzfeed article about how Europeans view trump. There’s a very good chance that those people mocking trump’s English learned English as a foreign language, and the last part

    On one level, the officials said, he is something of a laughing stock among Europeans at international gatherings. One revealed that a small group of diplomats play a version of word bingo whenever the president speaks because they consider his vocabulary to be so limited. “Everything is ‘great’, ‘very, very great’, ‘amazing’,” the diplomat said.
    But behind the mocking, there is growing fear among international governments that Trump is a serious threat to international peace and stability.
    “He has no historical view. He is only dealing with these issues now, and seems to think the world started when he took office*,” a diplomat told BuzzFeed News, pointing to Trump’s remarks and tweets about defence spending. …
    They also believe Trump’s foreign policy is chiefly driven by an obsession with unravelling Barack Obama’s policies. “It’s his only real position,” one European diplomat said. “He will ask: ‘Did Obama approve this?’ And if the answer is affirmative, he will say: ‘We don’t.’ He won’t even want to listen to the arguments or have a debate. He is obsessed with Obama.”

    * many people would be very surprised to learn [thing an embarrassed foreigner or frightened aide had to tell trump earlier that day]

  47. 47.

    catclub

    @Eljai:

    I wanted to see him get impeached.

    Many people smarter than me assign Ford’s pardon blame for a lot of further lawlessness by Republicans.
    No accountability. hoocoodanode.

  49. 49.

    scav

    @Nicole: Also remember my mom having the hearings on, especially remember her ironing to it. Presumably we had very tidy clothes for a while as she was very into it — there was also a big countdown to the end of his presidency calendar on the panty door carefully marked off every day and gleefully removed early.

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @SiubhanDuinne: it’s an ironic look at Republicans in the thirties, or later, isn’t it?
    “Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again…
    Didn’t need no welfare state
    Everybody pulled his weight
    Gee our old LaSalle ran great…”

  51. 51.

    randy khan

    August 9 was my mother’s birthday. She said it was the best birthday present she ever got.

    On the letter:

    As I remember, the protocol was to give the letter to Kissinger because the Secretary of State is the highest-ranking member of the cabinet (based on when the office was created, of all things). He initialed it to show that it had been received – the bare letter without acknowledgment might not have been effective because you wouldn’t know that Nixon had transmitted it to the recipient.

  55. 55.

    bystander

    I was a newbie at a regional investment bank when Nixon resigned. I put a damper on my glee for the sake of the job. Can’t say I regret it, either.

    @zhena gogolia: If you need a laugh, check out the State Dept. spokesmodel. Betty Cracker and ruemara both told me she is in fact a former fauxbot. It is so weird seeing a State Dept. spokesperson who looks like a bandeau-dressed weathercaster, sneering at the journalists. They could cut from her to the audience-reaction shots in The Producers.

  58. 58.

    zhena gogolia

    @bystander:

    See, this is just the kind of thing that would depress me more. Unless I get it filtered through Colbert or something.

  60. 60.

    efgoldman

    @Betty Cracker:

    I was too young to really understand what was happening, but I’ll never forget my mother’s utter joy at the news. She hated that sumbitch Nixon!

    I had a stereo/radio in my office, which was on gavel to gavel. After supper, at home, I’d watch the video from PBS.
    Yes, I was and am a political junkie.

  62. 62.

    germy

    @efgoldman: I remember Sam Ervin’s eyebrows seemed to be telegraphing some drama. I was hooked on watching the proceedings. Little did I know many of Nixon’s key men would re-take power in the ’80s, ’90s and beyond.

  63. 63.

    Mary G

    I was in the parking lot of a great diner in Redlands, CA with my mom when we heard the news that Nixon had resigned. She was still a Republican and yelled at me for cheering.

  64. 64.

    Major Major Major Major

    @Amaranthine RBG:

    A well fed Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bake Pies, shall not be infringed.

    I see the filter gods have selected an appropriate one for you today.

  65. 65.

    frosty fred

    @SiubhanDuinne: I take “cutesy” to refer to the style of the initials, with the two letters run together. Someone who does a lot of initialing, though, might well develop a shortcut (I have, anyway; possibly I’m a middle schooler).

  68. 68.

    gene108

    I remember Sam Ervin’s eyebrows seemed to be telegraphing some drama. I was hooked on watching the proceedings. Little did I know many of Nixon’s key men would re-take power in the ’80s, ’90s and beyond.

    The one common thread from Reagan to Bush, Jr. is their Administrations were basically staffed with the Nixonites, who managed to not get indicted or convicted.

    And they learned how to cover their tracks, from Nixon’s failure to cover his.

    The Bush, Jr. Administration really made this into an art form, wherein everything they said and did had some element of plausible deniability to it and nothing, absolutely nothing, was written down or recorded about what was said in private discussions.

  69. 69.

    germy

    What’s with the giant chicken on the White House lawn?

    What is the nature of her protest?

    EDIT: Ah, I see this:

    The New York Daily News said that the Trump-coiffed chicken is a 23-foot replica of the Chinese inflatable chicken used to kick off the year of the rooster and has been adopted as a mascot for protesters who believe President Donald Trump is too “chicken” to release his tax returns.

  70. 70.

    scav

    @Thor Heyerdahl: Apparently so, What was my mother doing with all that laundry and ironing?! (The things I missed out on as a kid . . . . I would have gotten so much more amusement and mileage out of that typo then.)

  71. 71.

    bystander

    Andy Borowitz:

    “We are not the enemy of North Korea.” — Rex Tillerson
    “We are threatening fire and fury against North Korea.” — Donald Trump
    “Where is North Korea?” — Betsy DeVos

  72. 72.

    Philbert

    The day Nixon quit, my boss came into swing-shift lunch (9pm) at the machine shop where I was working, took us out to a bar, and said ‘the shift is paid, and you are all on days now’. Pretty good for a small shop owner.

  73. 73.

    efgoldman

    @gene108:

    The one common thread from Reagan to Bush, Jr. is their Administrations were basically staffed with the Nixonites

    Which proves that political prognostication wasn’t worth the meltable type at the printing plants. The consensus was that Trocksi Dicksie and his merry band had ruined the Republiklown brand for the foreseeable future.
    Said future was four years until Sanctus Ronaldus, and twenty until Newtnik became speaker.

  74. 74.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Yashar AliVerified account @ yashar
    Just received a summons. Eric Bolling is suing me for defamation – $50 million in damages. I stand by my reporting + will protect my sources

    Ben Jacobs Retweeted Yashar Ali
    As horrible as this is for @ yashar, I am excited for him to do discovery on Eric Bolling

    I’m feeling a bit tapped out on donations lately, but this might be one go fund me I would have to kick in to

  76. 76.

    bystander

    @germy: Thank you. That was hilarious. Heather Nauert is too obscure but she would make a great SNL character.

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @bystander: “Where is North Korea?” — Betsy DeVos

    Reminds me of the notBorowitz story that Sarah Palin didn’t know there were two Koreas.

  78. 78.

    ? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?

    @germy:

    Griff Tannen: What’s wrong, McFly, chicken?
    (Data plays a chicken sound effect)
    Marty McFly: What did you call me, Griff?
    Griff: Chicken, McFly!
    Marty: Nobody. Calls me…
    (Griff whips out a baseball bat)
    Marty: [chuckles nervously] …chicken.

  79. 79.

    Mike in Pasadena

    @Eljai: On August 10, 1974, I remember I was standing in the terminal at Ramstein, the US Air Force’s giant base in Frankfurt, Germany, when the Air Force Times was delivered. Front page, above the fold, four inch high letters: NIXON RESIGNS! I failed to save a copy. One of the people I was travelling with was in the habit of imitating Nixon. He put his arms up in the Nixon victory salute, hunched up his shoulders around his neck, and in Nixon’s deep growl said, “Make no mistake about it, I am NOT the president.” Good times. It was news to us because there was no Internet and we had been unable to watch television or listen to radio for several days.

  80. 80.

    r€nato

    @khead: likewise “people who scream ‘NUNH UNH, RACISM IS NOT WHY KAP CAN’T MAKE A ROSTER'” and “people who lose their fucking minds when a team considers Kap for their roster”.

  82. 82.

    prostratedragon

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: In re, data scientist David Robinson, who last year uncovered the iPhone/Android divide in tweets from Trump’s account, has updated his analysis with lots of new material (from the comprehensive Trump Twitter Archive). Among other things, Robinson traces the evolution of Trump’s tweets about Pres. Obama. No one could ever guess when they started to trend …

    “Trump’s Android and iPhone tweets, one year later” featuring R/tidytext goodness.

  84. 84.

    schrodingers_cat

    OT software question is upgrading to Office 16 for my personal laptop worth it? Currently I have Office 10. Any reviews from people that have used it?
    Thanks.

  85. 85.

    JerryRich

    @rikyrah: I was resisting the idea of spending a couple of hundred bucks for a new phone, so I invested $15.00 in a new battery. Much better performance, a new phone can be delayed for a while.

  86. 86.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    I’m annoyed with polls. Quinnipiac had Lump at 33% a few days ago (all time low!).

    A couple days later another poll had him at an “all time low” of 38%.

    Today Politico announces his all time low of 40%.

    Different polls that apparently are each at all time low, but the number is going up, dammit! 40% of what group of idiots can actually approve of Trump?!?

  88. 88.

    Mnemosyne

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    I’m guessing that it means Trump is polling at an all-time low for each of those polls. They all had him start at a different number, so they all have a different low point.

    The fact that he’s measurably sinking in multiple polls is a good sign, even though the low is different for each poll.

  92. 92.

    Mnemosyne

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Awww, thanks, but I have way too much math anxiety to take an actual class. I can figure things out on my own without any pressure, but the prospect of quizzes and homework and tests makes me break out in a cold sweat. ?

  93. 93.

    odinhans

    One of the best days ever! My ex and I were enjoying a rare steak and a beer when the sad faced Pres came on the TV and said he was not guilty but was resigning. God, it was absolutely terrific.

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    @odinhans:

    You just gave me a heart attack. I thought you were talking about today!!!!!!! I was filled with unutterable joy!

  95. 95.

    encephalopath

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    Of course he initialed it to show that he got it. That’s not the point.

    Why is HK’s initials some twee version of H and K? That what I’m asking. If there were and “I” in there he would have put a heart on it.

    Henry effing Kissinger signed the President’s resignation letter like it was a yearbook.

  96. 96.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @encephalopath:

    Why is HK’s initials some twee version of H and K? That what I’m asking. If there were and “I” in there he would have put a heart on it.

    Henry effing Kissinger signed the President’s resignation letter like it was a yearbook.

    Signing it this way, he used four strokes of the pen. If he had done it non-tweely (writing the H and K separately), he would have used six strokes. Most people who sign or initial a great many documents develop time-and-effort-saving ways of doing so.

    There is a great deal for which one can, and must, criticise Henry Kissinger, but unless you can cite a reliable graphologist proving that his idiosyncratic “HK” is the sign of an ignorant, demented monster with dangerously twee tendencies, I’m going to conclude that you’re wildly overthinking a fucking two-letter monogram.

  97. 97.

    encephalopath

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Really? You need an appeal to authority to suggest there’s not something weird about that?

    Kissinger is a monster. Also a really strange dude. It’s two letters. Write the two letters. But no… he needs some special way to make his two letters.

    Still look odd to me.

  98. 98.

    scott alloway

    Happy anniversary! I remember the night well. Was a social worker with my parents up from Connecticut and friends over the place. Most of us – but not my dad – were quite happy. I am so hopeful for a reprise by the Orange Menace to bookend my working life.

  99. 99.

    Peale

    So who is paying Eli Lake to be Neocon shill for Trump on every single foreign policy issue? He could vomit on the shoes of the pope and it Lake would be there praising the brilliance of the strategy and new direction in relations with the Vatican.

  100. 100.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @encephalopath:

    Really? You need an appeal to authority to suggest there’s not something weird about that?

    Nope. On my very own authority I will not only suggest, I will state flat-out, there’s nothing in the least weird about that.

    Kissinger is a monster. Also a really strange dude.

    No argument there.

    It’s two letters. Write the two letters. But no… he needs some special way to make his two letters.

    When I woke up this morning, I had no idea that before the sun went down I would in any way be defending Henry Fucking Kissinger. But people do all kinds of individual, unique things with their handwriting, especially signatures and initials. I had an uncle named Frank Thorolfsen. His signature was a huge “F” followed by a short squiggle, and a huge “T” followed by a long squiggle.

    Whenever I write a word at the beginning of a sentence (or otherwise needs to be capitalised) that starts with “Th,” I invariably join the cross-stroke of the “T” to the downstroke of the “h.” It’s quick and easy, and in my opinion looks pretty. But according to you, it is “twee” and a “special way” of making the two letters. I guess I should be glad you haven’t yet sent the FBI to do a pre-dawn raid on me. Who knows what such a monster might be capable of?

    Still look odd to me.

    Bless your heart.

  101. 101.

    encephalopath

    Argument from Authority is one thing, but to claim that some unnamed invisible authority in the form of “reliable graphologist” is required to sign on to my argument in for it to be admitted into discussion is some bizarre rhetorical bullshit.

    You’re the one who suggest the need for a “reliable graphologist” to verify the strangeness of his initials. Now you’re going to backpedal and claim you didn’t really mean that.

    Maybe you didn’t mean it that way, but shutting me down because some unnamed expert didn’t say so doesn’t seem at all fair.

    Also… why is this so important to you you that you feel the need to bless my heart?

  102. 102.

    J R in WV

    @encephalopath:

    Henry the K’s initials and date/time stamp were what made the resignation official. The Secretary has to receive the resignation for it to be effective, right? Or someone, whoever it’s addressed to. This was the first, so they set the standard, so to speak.

  103. 103.

    encephalopath

    @J R in WV:

    Ok… that’s a thing that makes sense. He made his middle school HK at some point as part of his official duties so he has to keep doing it that way.

  104. 104.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @encephalopath:

    You’re the one who suggest the need for a “reliable graphologist” to verify the strangeness of his initials. Now you’re going to backpedal and claim you didn’t really mean that.

    So far, you are the only one who is referring to “the strangeness of his initials.” What I am suggesting is that because you think his HK is strange and I think his HK is not strange, it
    might make sense to enlist the views of an actual expert in the field of handwriting analysis to provide a professional analysis. If said graphologist looks at Kissinger’s HK and concludes that it is weird, twee, or strange, I will gladly acknowledge and accept the correction.

    Also… why is this so important to you you that you feel the need to bless my heart?

    It seems to be far more important to you, but in any case, I am a kind lady who has lived in the South long enough to know when “bless your heart” is the only appropriate comment.

  106. 106.

    encephalopath

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Bring me the head of a “reliable graphologist” and I will accept your blessing.

    For tonight we will agree that HK is a weird dude.

  107. 107.

    J R in WV

    @A Ghost to Most:

    “You may find this hard to believe, but my father’s remains were shot out of a cannon. Unlike me, he was no Hunter S. fan.”

    A friend of mine, of my whole family, was a theatrical director, and worked for an arts group that my parents and other family members were involved with, management level, really. He was a great, fun guy, big guy with a VanDyke beard, big laugh, great producer and director.

    The shows he directed were period historical dramas, outdoor amphitheater productions at a park, with muzzle loading firearms being shot into the air all evening. After he died, still in theater, still directing and producing, just elsewhere, he asked to be cremated and sprinkled here and there. Which was done.

    But there was lots left, all of which was shot from those guns during performances in the glooming darkness of the outdoor theater where he had directed so many shows, for years. It was wonderful to learn about.

    Bang, another ounce of ashes shot into the woods!! He would have loved it, and would have asked for it if he had been sure it would have flown. I never knew if “management” was aware of it, who cared!

  109. 109.

    encephalopath

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    The initials comment was a throw away line that people didn’t get, then took too seriously (no… wait, that was me).

    I still think it’s strange that an adult in the highest levels of government signed off on an official document that way.

    But it’s not a thing that actually matters.

    Have a good night, SD.

  110. 110.

    Ruckus

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    The name I use has 7 letters. My signature is 2 squiggles.
    I’m with you, if you have to sign your name to a lot of stuff you learn shorthand. And squiggles. Nothing more to it.
    HK was and still is a major fucking asshole. He’s also older than fossilized mastodon shit.

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