Knew a girl named Nicky I guess you could say she was, well, a machine:
A presidential retweet brings lots of attention, whether you want it or not.
But for “Nicole Mincey,” who until recently was associated with the online merchandise store ProTrump45.com, you’d think the attention would be a boon for business and a well-deserved reward for collecting more than 100,000 Twitter followers.
Instead, the Twitter account associated with the store, @ProTrump45, has since been suspended from the site, along with a pool of accounts that acted as bots to amplify advertisements for Trump gear. The t-shirt mockup company Placeit had complained to Twitter that the accounts had used its models, with their own pro-Trump designs super-imposed on Placeit’s placeholder clothing, to advertise ProTrump45. It was identity fraud, Placeit said. Twitter acted with surprising speed, taking down a large number of accounts.
“So far, we’ve only reported to Twitter,” Placeit CEO Navid Safabakhs told TPM in an email Monday. “Our current plan is to report to federal authorities via https://www.identitytheft.gov/ Once we know for sure the identity of the person, we will know what we will do. We may use legal action if it makes sense.”
TPM reached Mincy via email Monday. Her real last name is slightly different than her former online persona’s. “Not responding to media inquiries,” she replied. “Please don’t post my name on any article. This has been one large headache. Hope you understand. Also won’t be answering any questions.”
Lots of media coverage on this now, but TPM was the first place I heard about it before larger outfits rushed in, which is why you should subscribe top TPM. The most hilarious part is that people weren’t even get their awesome trump swag.
LAO
Trump fans have been proven easy marks — hat’s off to the grifter!
Mike J
Robert Schooley who used to write Kim Possible is the one who got the story first, I think.
Jerzy Russian
Christ, what an asshole.
Villago Delenda Est
The vile creatures who ordered from this site deserve to be taken for every fucking farthing they have.
Feebog
I have been following Josh Marshall’s posts on this. The entire thing would be hilarious if were’nt so……disturbing.
E
I have a love-hate relationship with TPM. Josh Marshall’s prose is almost completely unreadable any more — all the back and forth, “This! Okay, not really this, but something like this. I am not saying it is all this. On the contrary. There is a lot of good reason to believe the other. But, still, this. There are many reasons to think this. Not that there are not reasons to believe the other. The other is also true. The other has been very much true for a long time. We all know the other is true. And yet, this. We now have to consider this. Maybe not completely, but at least a little.” Then there is his persistent habit of burying the lede somewhere in the very last paragraph. I have found that if you read his posts from the bottom up, and don’t read the first half at all, you can often make better sense of them. My God the man needs an editor. Some of his staff, on the other hand, are excellent writers, even if they all seem to be 22 years old.
ruemara
I am perfectly fine with the Swine Hitler’s followers being taken for every cent they have. But I wish the models being used by these bots were able to sue and take that money back.
schrodingers_cat
@E: I thought I was the only one. I find his writing both incomprehensible and unreadable.
jl
@E: Naw man, it’s just PhD Historian talk.
Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA
@E: Also, “Let me elaborate.” That’s why I’m reading your article, ya putz!
It’s like he’s writing a term paper with a required minimum word count.
I wouldn’t mind it so much if he were an idiot — but the majority of what he writes contains some good info or insights (barring the occasional obvious “Trump doesn’t make them bad, they were already bad” sort of thing). It’s just frustrating having to go digging through the filler.
SatanicPanic
@E: awww I think he’s just trying not to get out too far in front of the facts, I like his columns. Sometimes they are too long though. haha, I just Marshalled myself.
Villago Delenda Est
@ruemara: Agreed.
GregB
Manufactured consent.
Chomsky was on to this shit long ago.
In my heart of heart I want the hammer brought down on Trump and the GOP and I hope it exposes a conspiracy to steal the election.
We could actually gain a modicum of goodwill if the world were to find out that not only did Trump lose the popular, but that he, GOP hacks and Russian operatives literally stole the electoral vote.
? Martin
This is the next stage of astroturfing. Why pay people to support your cause when you can just invent them out of thin air. Build up a sufficiently credible profile of a person with a bunch of linked social media accounts, photos, etc. and rather than paying them hourly to do this work, you can buy them and automate them, and they’re detailed enough to be difficult to discern that they aren’t real. When your cause is over, sell them in bulk to the next cause, with all of their followers, etc.
This is automated wingnut welfare. Cheaper and more effective. And ML will only make it more effective and harder to detect.
Mnemosyne
FWIW, this is a persistent problem at places like Etsy: sellers steal other people’s designs and then sell the same merchandise at a lower price that undercuts the original designer.
But intellectual property shouldn’t belong to the person who created it, it should belong to whoever wants it, amirite, techno-libertarians?
Mike J
@E: Is that where Costco Antihistamine writes?
I think I bought a domain name from Josh during the 2004 campaign.
catclub
@GregB:
There might be a law against that, but I bet: a) it will take forever in the courts to sort out if there even IS a law.
and b) the loser in that election will not get any recompense -like taking over the job.
Cheryl Rofer
Looks like the head of his party may be willing to do some of the dirty work.
His social media director and former caddy tweeted the same thing earlier.
jl
@ruemara: ” I am perfectly fine with the Swine Hitler’s followers being taken for every cent they have. But I wish the models being used by these bots were able to sue and take that money back. ”
The models’ pics were on a web site that allows users to create mock-ups of various types of branded gear. The company says they are going after the Trumpsters who stole the pics of identity fraud, and various types of IP torts. I hope they are successful. Maybe we’ll learn about the connections to the Trumpsters in the WH. Somehow these swindlers came to Trump’s attention and he retweeted them quite a bit. But who knows? Maybe some WH staff were desperate for some good material for the Dope In Chief’s daily personal positivity propaganda plumping briefings and threw them in there.
Cheryl Rofer
I’m not following this closely, but it may be time to make popcorn!
Gravenstone
And here I expected to read that Nikki Haley had done something of note (or ill repute) and the UN. Ah well, on with the Russian bot freakshow.
zhena gogolia
@E:
Yeah, simply cannot read him any more. I don’t remember him being like this in the old days.
Mike J
@Cheryl Rofer:
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
Harder to detect until people start using ML to look for bots.
And to be honest, I think most of the “bot” accounts in this case are closer to being sockpuppets than true bots.
Ohio Mom
@E: You should have read JMM when he was first starting out, when was just a solo blogger — THAT was wordy. You had to scroll, scroll, scroll…
He’s downright terse nowadays.
Gravenstone
@Cheryl Rofer: Gotta admit, that’s the closest to a cogent argument Trump (or his Twitter double) has posted in a long time. It’s true Congress was very much all bark and little bite through Obama’s tenure in terms of PPACA repeal. With that much practice, they might have actually learned something – if such were ever their intent.
rikyrah
This Muthaphucka HERE!!
Republican makes provocative comments about McCain’s brain cancer
08/09/17 02:18 PM—UPDATED 08/09/17 02:30 PM
By Steve Benen
It’s no secret that Republicans were disappointed when Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) joined Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), and 48 Senate Democrats in derailing the GOP’s far-right health care plan two weeks ago. But just how far are some on the right prepared to go to express their dissatisfaction?
Politico notes one Senate Republican who broached a highly provocative subject.
Betty Cracker
@Cheryl Rofer: Hannity was on that last night too. In fact, he broke his pledge to suspend political slap-fights for 12 hours in honor of the grave North Korea threat to slam McConnell. At this point, I’m not sure if Fox News is originating the messaging or if they’re laying covering fire at the behest of the Trumpanzees. In either case, deeply stupid people are in charge.
Cheryl Rofer
@Betty Cracker: This, a thousand times
jl
@Cheryl Rofer: Somehow their chaos produced actually and seriously true statements (aka, not damned lies for ignorant juvenile fantasies) from both Trump and McConnell. And I think on the same day? I’ll check the time stamp on the tweets to make sure. I’ll note down the date and time. Probably will rate a mention in the history books, and I’ll want to remember where I was when it happened.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: They’ll just tell you that “information wants to be free!”, completely unaware that it doesn’t mean what they think it means.
Gravenstone
@Mike J: That is a connection that I barely recall even hearing about when he first started gaining online fame. Amusing.
GregB
We may be approaching the Grand Moff Tarkin moment for the GOP. “Abandon the Death Star in our moment of triumph?”
I see so many of them still brimming with hubris about that WV putz switching parties and just how much power they have.
I still think Trump is agent of GOP destruction.
jl
@rikyrah: Sad, but sadly also good news for the country that they are turning on each other in such an ugly and stupid way. Displays like this should give us an incentive to contact Congress big time for upcoming shitshows thrown by Congress, like the upcoming attempt at bogus tax reform (aka, tax slash for super rich). We can see much much more of this if we can stall all of their horrible legislative initiatives.
bystander
MSNBC is covering some State Dept. press conference. The State Dept. spokesmodel looks and acts like a fauxbot. She consistently refused to answer questions directly and started venting about the media. Plus Barbie doll looks.
Frankensteinbeck
@Mingobat f/k/a Karen in GA:
Unfortunately, this is not obvious to so many people that I think there are still ‘they’re just rubes’ holdouts. In the wider population, it’s much harder to take hold, and bears constant repetition.
@rikyrah:
Republicans, keeping it classy. That’s sure to bring McCain back to their side.
Cheryl Rofer
@jl: Blind pigs, acorns; stopped clocks.
Mnemosyne
@Roger Moore:
You know who else used to use sock puppets to pretend his political points had more support than they did?
No, seriously, it’s in the Ron Chernow biography. I LOL’ed when I got to that part. I guess “inventor of the sock puppet method of argumentation” doesn’t scan well.
jl
@Betty Cracker:
[Hannity] ” broke his pledge to suspend political slap-fights for 12 hours in honor of the grave North Korea threat to slam McConnell. ”
That got a big laugh out of me, from some reason. Man, I couldn’t see that coming! /snark
efgoldman
@Betty Cracker:
Well, we don’t know how much the three generals are in charge of anything, but yes, Velveeta Voldemort, his family and minions are deeply stupid at best.
W, on the other hand, while himself proudly ignorant, surrounded himself with mostly bright people. Evil, mendacious, misguided, usually wrong, but very bright.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@? Martin: Follow the show Black Mirror and it’s only a matter of time before they are running fictional canidates who get elected by votors knowing they aren’t real.
Cheryl Rofer
jl
@Cheryl Rofer: Sounds like a Cracker home art project. How did she get that in there?
Major Major Major Major
@Cheryl Rofer: Such a long strange path that Chinese spokeschicken has taken to be here today.
Amir Khalid
@E:
Not long ago, Marshall wrote about, of all things, his iPhone falling into the water. I doubt that any of his readers gave a damn whether the phone was ruined or not. But apparently he figured they would.
p.a.
@Mike J: If Dence were more well liked by his own party tRump would be dodging anvils while treading water above the Marianas Trench now.
Also too, is it anvils or anchors? In cartoons it’s always anvils, IIRC.
The Moar You Know
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: I can’t watch Black Mirror anymore, it’s utterly superb and 95% of every single thing they predict on that show is going to happen in the next few years. I have not had a TV show give me nightmares since I was a child. That one does it every time. Recommended if you can stand it.
rikyrah
When Ministers Suggest That God Has Ordained Killing
by Nancy LeTourneau
August 9, 2017
After Trump said that North Korea would be “met with fire and fury like the world has never seen,” one of his biggest supporters on the religious right, Rev. Robert Jeffress of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, said that God has given Trump the authority to take out Kim Jong Un.
In other words, Jeffress goes beyond Kim Jong Un and suggests that the government (i.e., Trump) has the authority to assassinate and impose the death penalty based on what the Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 13. Let’s take a look at that portion of the Bible, shall we?
Mel
@schrodingers_cat: I have the same issue with his writing. He tackles so many important breaking developments, but then meanders, digresses, and verbally waffles until the reader is having headspins.
In terms of clarity, focus, stance, and connected factual support, his writing lately has been a big fail. It throws me right back into editor mode. Red pen!!
It’s especially disappointing to me because his writing used to be clear, concise, and effective, and because he does have excellent investigative journalism skills.
Major Major Major Major
@The Moar You Know: I had to stop watching this season for a while because of the too-long, utterly predictable ‘rating people’ episode. They took 90 minutes to show what would have been a decent 22-minute long Twilight Zone episode. Just turned me off to the whole season. Finally picked it back up with San Junipero though.
joel hanes
@E:
Josh Marshall’s prose is almost completely unreadable any more — all the back and forth
If you had supported the invasion of Iraq and had predicted that the troops would find WMD, you’d now be hedging every statement too.
I read Josh, but I’ll never forget that he did not oppose W’s Excellent Adventure.
The Moar You Know
@rikyrah: So the crucifixion of Jesus was 100% OK, since it was done by the government. Got it.
Betty Cracker
@bystander: Surprise — she used to work for Fox News!
Roger Moore
@Amir Khalid:
He has also spent a fair amount of time discussing his woodworking hobby. He’s the publisher and editor-in-chief, so he gets to devote an occasional comment in the editor’s column to personal stuff.
Mike J
@Major Major Major Major: That was the first ep I tried to watch and never made it through. Should I try other eps?
Mike J
@The Moar You Know: Also seems to elide the fact that KJU also leads a government, and we can therefore assume, put there by God.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mike J: So, he’s going to make sure he’s in the history books as the first US President to be forced from office by the Senate?
Major Major Major Major
@Mike J: Season 3 (the current one) is the one Netflix commissioned, start from the beginning, when it was a TV show.
Villago Delenda Est
@rikyrah: Ron Johnson seems to be in some sort of contest with John Cornyn and James Inhofe as the stupidest man in the Senate.
rikyrah
@The Moar You Know:
Thanks for telling me. I will stay away from it.
Amir Khalid
@Roger Moore:
In other words, there”s no one to tell him that woodworking and the water resistance of iPhones are not relevant to TPM readers, and undercut the case for TPM Prime, the paid subscription service he’s been hawking for these many months.
rikyrah
The Perils of a Paper Tiger Presidency
by John Stoehr
August 9, 2017
I have talked in months past about President Donald Trump’s fundamental weakness. My intent is to demonstrate how the opposition can politically wound the president, and actively erode—if not break—the link between him and his core supporters. His base of power comes almost exclusively from projection of toughness. Yes, he’s a populist of sorts, but policy is entirely beside the point. Actually, policy isn’t even beside the point, because the only point to the Trump presidency is displays of strength. If you crack that, you crack his base. In the right conditions, only one stray strand is needed for the whole thing to unravel.
I made the case over at US News & World Report Tuesday that we may be seeing that unraveling now. The president has been unpopular from the beginning, but his support had been remarkably steady, around 40 percent, give or take. Some said this was his floor, and that Trump could limp along for years, while others (including myself) thought this level of support was more proof that America’s unreconstructed racists will be with the president no matter what he did.
We may be wrong. New polling suggests that support is softening. I argued Tuesday that this comes from three things: one, Hillary Clinton can’t be blamed anymore; two, he’s not delivering on promises to provide material gains for white working class voters; and three, his base is starting to figure out that he’s weak after witnessing his repeated failures to repeal Obamacare.
But the public isn’t alone. Our adversaries also sense weakness. And this is my point here. A paper tiger president is bad in all kinds of ways. After the Russians effort to influence the election and poison the public sphere, the North Koreans now see an opportunity. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the first seven months of Trump’s presidency unfolded at the same time that Pyongyang figured out how to put a nuclear warhead on rocket capable of hitting the US.
A strong president would, first of all, be very careful about public statements reacting to news from North Korea. But specifically, he would not issue any threats unless he intended to follow through with that threat. Without follow-through, threats are empty, and empty threats mean that our enemies can do whatever they want without fear of American power.
JCJ
@rikyrah:
Ron Johnson, possibly the dumbest man in the US Senate, making Wisconsin proud!
NorthLeft12
And once again we have grifting/fraud/theft associated with the current first family. You might think that the stooges that support Deadbeat Donald would have learned by now……..but alas, you would be mistaken.
Mike J
Hey Adam and/or Cheryl, what up w/Cuba?
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/895363361482973184
JCJ
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yup, Ron Johnson is just how we like ’em here in Wisconsin – as smart as the dairy cattle!
Mike J
@JCJ: And when he walks down the street everybody he meets says hey, what’s your name?
schrodingers_cat
@JCJ: Why do you hate cattle?
NorthLeft12
@rikyrah: Oh my effing Dog! He did not go there, did he? I am awaiting one of Mr. Johnson’s esteemed colleagues wondering if his terminal stupidity and slavish obsequiousness had anything to do with his vote.
JDM
The poor woman is probably getting death threats and will in the foreseeable future, knowing what we know about rightwingers. Hope she’s going to be okay.
The Moar You Know
@JCJ: Did Inhofe die?
jl
@rikyrah: thanks.
” he’s not delivering on promises to provide material gains for white working class voters ”
I think this will be big. Strangely, it would be (and might be yet) much bigger if the toxic fool pres gets what he thinks he wants in Congress.
Not sure about foreign policy. Dick and Dub muddled through very foolish, weak and ineffectual policies for North Korea and Iran, and ultimately Iraq and Afghanistan. I think only Iraq mess hurt Dub because of the horrible costs and obviousness of the failure. But then, on NK, Afghanistan and Iran, Dick and (compared to Trump) even Dub were smart enough not to say asinine shit over and over again in front of the whole country. Trump differs there, so maybe that article might be right on NK.
ruckus
OK, for a good laugh, the ad between the post and the comments is:
Tired of Roaches?
Why yes, yes I am.
geg6
@jl:
Probably why I can’t understand why anyone doesn’t understand his writing. Too many years in academia.
bemused
Is Ron Johnson the WI legislator that has had to repeatedly defend or apologize for offensive things he’s said? Maybe I’m thinking of another WI legislator. There seems to be more where Johnson came from.
jl
@geg6: I don’t think commenters at this here miserable lefty, almost top 10,000, blog should complain about other blogs that sometimes put up weird shit on the front posts. But maybe that is just me.
Patricia Kayden
@Cheryl Rofer: That’s a perfectly fine question, Donny. Your party kept voting to repeal the ACA and yet had nothing with which to replace it. Why? Was it trying to pull a fast one on the American people by promising to repeal and replace but never doing so? Was it lying to the American people for 7 years? Hmmmm.
Gelfling 545
@Amir Khalid: I realize that at this site we only entertain intellectually profound issues but I read the article in question and mentally filed it under good to know. Not interesting until it happens to you.
I read TPM regularly and find no fault with Marshall’s style.
jl
Please notify me when Marshall writes about having a moment of profound clarity after stepping in pet poo when naked mopping at 3 AM (IIRC). Or even more mundane escapades such as leaving on a trip without any pants (IIRC, though I have done that myself). Then I will reconsider.
Patricia Kayden
@rikyrah: So he’s pretty much saying that for Republican male Senators to have a conscience about ripping away healthcare from millions of their fellow Americans, they have to have a brain tumor. Alrighty then.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
TPM is great. I just might subscribe to them:
Trump Lashes Out At McConnell Over ‘Excessive Expectations’ Comments
After issuing fiery comments and tweets in response to reports on North Korea advancing its nuclear capabilities Tuesday evening into Wednesday morning, President Donald Trump trained his ire on Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY).
Trump hit back at McConnell after the Senate leader said that Trump has “excessive expectations” about how quickly Congress can pass legislation:
Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
Senator Mitch McConnell said I had “excessive expectations,” but I don’t think so. After 7 years of hearing Repeal & Replace, why not done?
Trump’s tweet lashing out at McConnell came just a few hours after one of his closest aides, White House social media director Dan Scavino, sent a similar tweet bashing McConnell for making “excuses” for the Senate’s failure to repeal and replace Obamacare this summer.
Dan Scavino Jr. ✔ @DanScavino
More excuses. @SenateMajLdr must have needed another 4 years – in addition to the 7 years — to repeal and replace Obamacare….. https://twitter.com/foxbusiness/status/895268460372017152 …
9:52 AM – Aug 9, 2017
geg6
@jl:
True. Commenters on a blog that has featured posts with pics of dog poop really have no reason to complain about any other blogger’s side issues.
jl
@geg6: I was going to give those a pass. This is one of the premier pet poop blogs.
Amir Khalid
@Gelfling 545:
Do you go to TPM looking for political news, or for “My iPhone fell in the water” stories? The former is more relevant to the site’s stated mission, I would think.
Gelfling 545
@rikyrah: Even if anyone accepts that passage ( it was a basis for the divine right of kings, which Trump would love) how does it follow that Trump holds governmental authority over North Korea when he is neither their elected nor hereditary ruler?
Mnemosyne
@rikyrah:
And yet Fox News and other propaganda outlets will claim it’s all liberals’ fault for not pretending that Trump is a great leader.
This seriously seems more like a dysfunctional family every single day. If we point out that the dishes are broken because Daddy went on a rampage of breaking them while he was drunk, the problem is that we said Daddy is a drunk when we should have kept that under wraps to protect the family.
A Ghost to Most
To any astrophysicists
Mnemosyne
@Gelfling 545:
Because Trump was elected by God’s Miraculous Hand when everyone said he was going to lose and HEY STOP TRYING TO LOOK BEHIND THAT CURTAIN!!!!
Peale
Yeah, it must be summer, because TPM and Raw Story were taken over by this trivial matter for three days. And it really is a trivial matter. Are we going to hunt down every black person who sells trump merchandise now? I guess its not as bad for the left to do this while the MSM spends the day interviewing Erik Price and wondering aloud if maybe he was sane to privatize the war. He was only on every network yesterday. It must be summer because every nitwit is worthy of hours of speculation.
A Ghost to Most
FYWP.
To any astrophysicists
Does the research out today that there may be 100 million black holes in the Milky Way account for missing dark matter?
JCJ
@bemused:
Hmmm. There are plenty of bad ones, but that sounds more like Glenn Grothman. He was a state legislator who ran for the Congressional seat after Tom Petri retired. His primary campaign centered on promising to do everything he could to impeach President Obama. He is a true piece of shit, and he isn’t even from Waukesha County!
ruemara
@bystander: That’s because she is a Fox-bot, formerly. Now a State department spokesperson. These morons will need to be rooted out like pesky weeds.
@Peale: The role of bots as amplifying voices for propaganda is one you’re dismissing to your peril. It most certainly is of importance, not because of the t-shirt grift, but because it is so ubiquitous, that even a group of morons who can’t mail out shit on time can use it for profit. And it’s not going away.
GregB
I try not to be too judgemental knowing that Balloon Juice has been known to front page vintage gay porn.
randy khan
@Cheryl Rofer:
Rats! If I’d only detoured one more block south on my way back to the office from lunch, I could have seen that. (It’s not currently visible from a 6th floor window a couple of blocks from the Ellipse, but there are a lot of trees in the way.)
ruemara
@GregB: How did I miss this delight? Or did you mean pictures of Lindsey & McCain?
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
Apropos of bots and sockpuppets, for the past few days, Jim Wright of Stonekettle Station has been conducting courses on identifying and dealing with the Information Warfare bots and puppets over at Twitter, where he posts as @Stonecastle. As you needn’t been a Twitter member to read what he has to say, I recommend looking up his posts about this, to see how this sort of thing is done, how to spot it as it’s happening, and how to avoid being led astray by this. This is something being used to direct the flow of online discussion away from topics that need to be covered, and into profitless tangles. (Search for @Stonecastle and he should appear.)
randy khan
@jl:
But that’s BJ’s niche!
MisterForkbeard
@Cheryl Rofer: Well, he’s RIGHT. But the thing is – everyone with half a brain knew what the Republicans were doing. They were using “Repeal and Replace” as a political slogan backed by absolutely nothing, because they couldn’t come up with a better plan.
Trump knows this too. He doesn’t get to pretend he’s not complicit either.
Another Scott
@Cheryl Rofer: rofl.
The Chinese Trump Chicken is Coming to America (from March).
Cheers,
Scott.
Cheryl from Maryland
@jl: Or PhD Art Historian talk. As my advisor said to me, Miss Washer, you are too bold and confident in your conclusions. Be more temperate. Which is why I did not choose academia for my career.
A Ghost to Most
Also, if there are any Perl programmers, or UNIX dbas or sysadmins that need to manage (start, stop, restart, status) many disparate systems, I have some code for you, along with some XML files that are used to configure it. Command line UI
Hella useful. Free to a good home.
TenguPhule
@Villago Delenda Est:
And then pressed into debt bondage as manual labor.
TenguPhule
@jl:
But then what else would we able to talk about?
Another Scott
@A Ghost to Most: Maybe, maybe not.
HTH.
Cheers,
Scott.
TenguPhule
@GregB:
The problem is he’s not going to stop there.
TenguPhule
@Cheryl Rofer:
Chicken Boo what’s the matter with you! You don’t act like the other chickens do!
TenguPhule
@rikyrah:
I should become POTUSA just to show him why this is not such a bright idea to endorse.
HeleninEire
Of course I am way late to the thread cuzza where I am. But Darling Nikki is one of the best nastiest dirtiest songs ever. Long live Prince
Patricia Kayden
@jl:
Driving away from one’s home without pants? Or forgetting to pack pants? I’ve done the latter in regard to suits during a business trip and ended up having to buy a suit while traveling. But leaving the house without pants sounds like a bridge too far.
bystander
@Betty Cracker:
@ruemara:
Do they have a school for them? A cross between Medill and the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader Institute?
cmorenc
I”ve not seen any media reports on the Trump paraphernalia store’s misappropriation of Placit’s models. Don’t know if that means I don’t get out enough in surfing the media, or if it means the reports aren’t really penetrating or spreading through the media – in any case, not sure this story is gathering enough coverage to make any but hard-core political nerds aware of this.
different-church-lady
@A Ghost to Most: And though the holes were very small…
Schmendrick
@a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio): I am pretty sure you meant @Stonekettle (although the @Stonecastle account had a lot of good info about how to earn lots of money from home!)
TenguPhule
@Patricia Kayden:
Perhaps they are wearing a dress?
Just one more canuck
@Frankensteinbeck: I’d love to see McCain walk up to him and deck him
J R in WV
@The Moar You Know:
“@rikyrah: So the crucifixion of Jesus was 100% OK, since it was done by the government. Got it.”
Actually it was necessary and essential to save humanity by His sacrifice, if you want to believe in Christianity.
I don’t. But that’s what they believe, His death was both necessary and willing to save all of us who care to believe that, so that those people maybe saved into heaven where they will be able to worship G-d, Jesus and the holy ghost. And the Virgin Mary, too, I guess…