One of these images is the bill that Republicans will vote on sometime tonight or tomorrow. Principled deficit hawk Jeff Flake, concerned Susan Collins, and champion of regular order John McCain have all rolled over for this heaping pile of hot garbage. I’m sure we’ll all be treated to puff pieces in Politico or Axios detailing the long night of the soul that each of them endured as they struggled with the deep moral question of whether a stuffing money into their donors’ pockets was worth the inevitable deaths of children and the elderly that will come from their votes. I can only hope that we take Flake’s seat next year, and McCain’s in the special election.
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mdblanche
I can’t understand any of the top excerpt, but it looks like the bottom one says “my dad killed JFK.”
Baud
And Doug Jones in Alabama!
Ruckus
From my understanding of what has been presented, the top sample is garbage and the bottom sample is the bill.
@mdblanche:
I didn’t get that from this. Do you have the latest magic decoder ring?
Steve in the ATL
Testing—new phone
JPL
@Baud: A dem in Alabama… hahaha The only way a dem can win in Alabama is if Moore were caught in bed with a boy.
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: What’d you get? I just got an S8.
Baud
@JPL: Fingers crossed. We’ll see.
Ohio Mom
The whole scene on the Senate floor tonight is like one of those things a book editor or movie critic would label too preposterous — beyond the limits of willing suspension of disbelief.
They are having an orgy of sorts — for one small example, adding stuff like a special provision just for Betsy Devos’s favorite Christian college.
Yes, we have had bad laws before. But did we ever have anything like this frenzy before?
HinTN
@Baud: Considering an 8. You like?
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
McCain is the dumbest. He’s going to die anyway so why not just vote against this abomination? If that fuck cares so much about legacy, that is? Unless he really believes, like Ryan does, that Free Markets Uber Alles now and forever.
Adam L Silverman
@Steve in the ATL: Who dis?
Steve in the ATL
@Baud: iPhone X
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: I caught your car answer the other morning. Lucky bastard.
Amaranthine RBG
@Baud:
It’s nice to think so, but it’s probably Moore by 4 or more points
Jones has outspent him by 8 to 1 so there is no sentient person in Alabama who doesn’t know the facts and Moore is still up in polls, which (as some of us knew prior to November 2016) tend to underreport preferences of racist assholes.
The few hundred dollars I sent to Jones would have been better spent on a bottle of Pappy van Winkle.
JPL
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: They lowered the tax on beer, which gives his daughter and wife a break.
debbie
If only I could post the GIF of Medea fainting. Oh Lord …
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Ohio Mom:
I’ve heard the legislative process for this Congress compared to that of the Chinese Politburo (they have a Congress btw, it’s just a rubber stamp). They act like the Party in a one-party state. Pence so far this year has done 3 tie-casting votes. For comparison, Cheney cast 8 over 8 years, Al Gore cast 4 over 8 years, and Biden cast none.
debbie
@Steve in the ATL:
How is it?
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: ha!
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m not a car guy. It’s cool but I can’t wind it out on the streets and I’m not a track guy, so it’s days are likely numbered. Plus the maintenance sucks!
Amaranthine RBG
@Steve in the ATL:
Needs more Animoji!
Steve in the ATL
@debbie: awesome in the ten minutes I’ve been using it! Screen and sound are fantastic.
JPL
@Amaranthine RBG: Not necessarily. I never expected Ossoff to win, but he did energize voters which are out in full force for local elections. They will vote again, and maybe lose again, but they don’t appear to be ready to give up. Baby steps.
A local state senate seat flipped in the district. Well not officially but the runoff is two dems.
ChrisH
GOP’s rush on this in light if the Meuller news today makes me think of Smee from Hook stuffing his pants full of booty and trying to escape before Robin Williams gets to him.
Baud
@HinTN: Still getting used to it, but I’m impressed so far. The knock on Samsung is that they slow down with age. But my phone is still zippy.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: It probably needs to live in Germany.
Amaranthine RBG
@JPL:
I hope you’re right and I’m wrong.
Baud
@Steve in the ATL: Cool. Too pricey for my blood even with the discounts you can find right now. And I just can’t get into iOS.
Steve in the ATL
@Amaranthine RBG: lol [insert Animoji here cuz I don’t know where they are]
debbie
@Baud:
No battery fire yet?
Ohio Mom
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Well, I suppose in some ways, for the moment at least, we are essentially in a one party state.
Being compared to China is not a good look.
chris
@JPL:
Don’t forget the death tax, can’t leave poor Megan less than the full hundred million.
Baud
@debbie: No, that was last year’s Note 7. They seemed to have fixed the problem.
?
Steve in the ATL
Where the Glendale CA people at?
Amaranthine RBG
@Steve in the ATL:
Right beside the text entry box in messages
I know my teenage daughter LOVES getting them from me even more than my usual barrage of text messages. /s
debbie
@Baud:
Good.
Ruckus
@Baud:
Just updated my motorola to the latest android #7.
Phone is still the same with the exception that the battery craps out 30-50% faster. I like it when improvements are worse.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: Counter-battery fire?
Mary G
SENATE IS VOTING ON MOTION TO ADJOURN UNTIL MONDAY! Hit the phones hard all weekend.
mdblanche
@Ruckus: Decoder ring settings here and here.
Steve in the ATL
@Amaranthine RBG: ✈️?????????
These things?
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
I’m close to Glendale, does that count?
Omnes Omnibus
OT: Why is Paul Ryan in this docu about Hamilton?
Adam L Silverman
Quid, Pro, and Quo!
Baud
@Ruckus: I’ve heard of that happening, but I’ve generally been lucky with upgrades.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@JPL:
I don’t know if this is a joke or not.
Roger Moore
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?:
He doesn’t want his estate to be taxed.
HinTN
@Baud: Zippy this S4 is not. Functional, yes and we barely have 4G out here so zippy is less of a concern.
Baud
@Mary G: Oh wow. That’s big.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Mary G: Knock on wood, but this is starting feel like Trumpcare all over again.
geg6
Monsters, each and every one of them. They make me wish I still believed in religion just so I could savor the thought of them burning in hell forever. Monsters.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: I have Monday night open. Will be at the hilton if anyone is up for a meet up.
Baud
@HinTN: The new phones are so much faster than even phones from two years ago.
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: holy fucking shit. That’s huge. Like bigger than Dotard’s flabby, pasty gut.
Ruckus
@Baud:
So far I have as well. They’ve actually all been upgrades.
Oh well my luck always runs out sooner than later.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: It is a little known fact that Hamilton was big into doing P90X in the Congressional gym each morning. So they’ve got Ryan on as a subject matter expert. Pretty much the only thing he knows anything about.
Gin & Tonic
Tired of politics, I was cataloging some vacation photos. Here’s one of the Wimbachklamm in Berchtesgaden National Park. Considering it was getting late and the light wasn’t so good, I feel pretty happy with a handheld 1/2-second exposure.
Viva BrisVegas
@Ohio Mom: The deplorables prefer being compared with Russia.
Another Scott
@Steve in the ATL: New cars are neat, but they can have too many features…
Cheers,
Scott.
? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?
@Ohio Mom:
No, it’s not.@Roger Moore:
Should have thought of that. Does the bill have language in it that abolished the estate tax?
Amaranthine RBG
@Steve in the ATL:
No. Click on App Store button right next to text entry box and options will open at bottom screen
I think the Animoji badge is a little monkey face. Click that and a whole new way annoy loved ones will present itself.
HinTN
@Mary G: WOW, down in flames
Mary G
@Mary G: Phooey, sorry, Reps are all voting No.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman:
I did not know that.
Adam L Silverman
@Steve in the ATL: You’re the attorney, I’m just a guy with a doctorate in polisci and criminology, but it would seem to be a quid, a pro, and a quo to me.
Mary G
@Gin & Tonic: Beautiful.
Baud
NotMax
They’re no longer making sausage, it’s more like J R in WV’s pineapple cake.
(With apologies to the esteemed commenter for associating him even tangentially with this mess.)
Baud
@Mary G: Rats.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus:
Yes, would be awesome there. Long ferry ride from here, though.
japa21
@Amaranthine RBG: Normally I would agree with you, but polls are based upon prior voting records, i.e W percentage is white males, X% is white females, Y are AA males and Z are AA females. They also break it down by prior voting records by age. If there is any kind of significant switch in turnout, and reports are that there has been a major push to register and get AA folks to the polls, than current poll results can be thrown out the window. Moore has been screaming about black felons being allowed to vote and that they are trying to steal the election from good white Christian folks. That would indicate to me that the AA vote worries them.
Adam L Silverman
@HinTN: Right now it’s 44 yes, 40 no. But if all the GOP senators vote no, then it fails and they stay in session.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
Which Hilton?
We have a few of them around.
Another Scott
@Ruckus: Sometimes it can take a while for the upgrade to “take”. Have you shut it down and rebooted it a few times (not all at once, but over a few days)? If not, it might be worth a try.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
HinTN
@Gin & Tonic: That’s hand held and 1/2 second? Astonishing. Also beautiful
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Back then it was only up to P09X.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: They had to cut those scenes out of the musical.
O. Felix Culpa
@Mary G: And I was so happy, for a fleeting moment.
chris
@Gin & Tonic: That’s stunning. Half a second? I’m impressed, I’d just make some greenish grey blur.
Another Scott
@Gin & Tonic: Beautiful. Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
GregB
I see that there has been a significant exchange of missile fire between Israel and Syria.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Where did you get that picture of my car?
JPL
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: Who among us doesn’t want to lower taxes on beer.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: 100 W Glenoaks Blvd
HinTN
@Adam L Silverman: Yeah, I forgot Roberts Rules make a motion to adjourn take precedence.
Gin & Tonic
@chris: I have a nice tripod, but it wasn’t with me on this trip, as I was already carrying a lot of other stuff.
Adam L Silverman
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Lock ’em up!
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: would love to everyone on that list on an orange jumpsuit
Adam L Silverman
Now we’re getting to the good stuff!
Yarrow
@? ?? Goku (aka The Hope of the Universe) ? ?: @Mary G: Twitter is telling me that the R’s are voting no on the motion to adjourn until Monday so people can read the bill.
Another Scott
@Ruckus: :-)
Bruce McCall is a genius. I fell in love with his stuff at National Lampoon when I was a kid.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Christ, he looks like he is melting.
Matt McIrvin
@Adam L Silverman: Devin Nunes’ House investigation will get to the bottom of this!
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Oh it’s taken. It had to be rebooted to run and is a completely new version of android, there are noticeable differences. Phone works fine, is a high end motorola so it has power and more than enough memory. And I’ve shut it down and restarted 4 times now, still eats battery like it’s going out of style. This is the third complete system upgrade, I bought the motorola because it is extremely android generic. All the motorola stuff is simple apps, nothing about the system is from lenovo, or at least it was totally generic until lenovo brought motorola. Don’t know if that is still true.
HinTN
@Yarrow: Need a snark tag
mdblanche
@GregB: Ugh, too much news today. I guess this must be Bibi’s plan to stay in office.
B.B.A.
@Omnes Omnibus: Melting is just a distraction from BENGHAZI!!!1!
chris
Well I guess that’s it then. It’s over.
That this will be believed by a significant number of Americans is frightening.
NotMax
@Adam L. Silverman
Cast list for Russiavoir Dogs.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
What sort of time were you thinking?
Baud
@Ruckus: Do you know what’s eating the battery? I had a Motorola phone that would randomly eat up battery at times, but at other times worked fine.
Omnes Omnibus
@B.B.A.: There should be an investigation. Right?
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: anytime after 5.
PM, that is.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: Ivanka really wanted Flynn to have a job in the administration. Now why would that be?
Mary G
They are getting ready to vote down three amendments by Wilmer and Rubio. I have fretted myself into an ulcer today because I itemized $11,716 in medical expenses last year despite having Medicare and the best supplement plan. I can afford the higher taxes but it is sickening to think of all the disabled people I know who don’t have my privileges. Turning the TV and twitter off for my mental/physical health, and cranking up some loud ass music.
Shalimar
@chris: Ingraham isn’t that stupid, but she obviously knows the intelligence level of her audience.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: @Steve in the ATL: Works for me!
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: And that was a comparatively good hair day for him too!
CarolDuhart2
@chris: The problem for Laura is twofold: Flynn’s already pled guilty. But there’s still state charges on kidnappling and associated crimes out there. Mueller’s got leverage here.
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman:
Out of this list:
I expect that eventually Nunes, Giuliani, Sessions, Bannon, Jared, and Don Jr. will be indicted. Eric will, of course, be left wondering what happened, and who’s taking him for ice cream next Tuesday afternoon…
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
I have friends in the weird car business who send me pics of things that people have made that look a lot like some of those drawings. People have taken his work as inspiration, or he is actually drawing close to reality. Either that or some of my friends know about people with access to really good……..
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: After checking with the Senate Parliamentarian, who cross referenced the Byrd Rule, I’ll allow it.
Jeffro
@NotMax: I was – without going into too much detail – explaining that very movie metaphor to my wife & kids earlier this evening, when asked “what happens next?” Adam has noted earlier today and earlier in general that this is where it get really interesting with this gang. He’s right. It’s a prosecutor’s dream.
Adam L Silverman
@Yarrow: She and Jared are so functionally dumb that there is no way to know.
B.B.A.
@Omnes Omnibus: Let there be a thousand blossoms bloom, as far as I’m concerned. But I ain’t spending any time on it because in the meantime, every three months, a person is torn to pieces by a crocodile in north Queensland.
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: Good god, is that a photograph of a human?
Kay
chris
@CarolDuhart2: Ted Lieu weighs in in the comments on Laura’s tweet. Flynn was allowed to plead guilty to one thing because he’s cooperating.
Mary G
One last horrible tweet by a horrible person.
Gin & Tonic
I’m interested whether anybody can identify this apparently carnivorous plant, growing in the wild in southern Germany. It seems like it should be a variety of Drosera, but the images I’m looking at aren’t all that close.
Jager
@Roger Moore:
Better ask Cindy it’s her money.
Yarrow
@Jeffro: Eric could end up in the orange jumpsuit with a long prison sentence and still wonder who’s taking him for ice cream next Tuesday.
Ruckus
@Baud:
No but it seems to use it up a lot even when locked. I haven’t gone to far into it I just upgraded this week. I don’t have a lot running nor do I use the thing a lot and I’ve had it for 2 yrs so I’m sort of used to how it worked. Something has changed. Could be an app, could be the os, could be the phase of the moon. That moon thing effects a lot of stuff.
Steeplejack
@Ruckus:
My Moto X will be four years old in January. Haven’t perceived any decline in performance (which I know is subjective), so I’m not feeling the urge to upgrade yet. But I have been sniffing the breezes a bit as to what’s out there now.
Kay
Cannot believe they’re giving the DeVos family a special gift. The Hillsdale Handout.
Corrupt scumbags.
Yarrow
@Adam L Silverman: Well, “complicit” is dictionary.com’s Word of the Year because of her.
NotMax
@Mary G
Dear Avik,
So was Mein Kampf.
Ruckus
@Yarrow:
I know it’s not funny but I did get a chuckle out of that.
Mnemosyne
Funny how Congress is legally prohibited from giving themselves a raise but not from passing a tax law that will primarily benefit themselves.
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: You remember the Changelings from Deep Space 9?
Mnemosyne
@Steve in the ATL:
In Pasadena. Sorry, man.
Cheryl Rofer
Ruckus
@Steeplejack:
The samsung stuff just doesn’t do it for me, the istuff is expensive (but so is a lot of other stuff now that istuff has set the high price) so that leaves real oddballs or what? I’d go with istuff because I like how it works and have mac at home but my budget for a phone says screw you, so I’ll stick with the moto x pure edition. The phone works fine, etc, just this new wrinkle is annoying.
MisterForkbeard
@Adam L Silverman: I really appreciate this joke, but now I can’t unsee it. And it explains so much.
J R in WV
@NotMax:
This may be worse than the pineapple skillet cake with fresh pineapple. Predigested batter! But sausage has room for such terrible ingredients.
And if I wasn’t ready to take the heat for the baking disaster, I would never have mentioned it, so you go brother!! Use it as a metaphor for Trump, or Sanders, or whoever. Certainly this Republican bill writing in public is the worst thing I’ve ever seen and I watched the Nixon administration work its way into impeachment.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
In your defense, JR in WV’s fresh pineapple cake was a disastrous hot mess, just like this bill.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
They’re not prohibited, it’s that any approved raise doesn’t go into effect until after the next congressional election. Meanwhile automatic annual COLAs remain in force unless specifically voted down.
Mnemosyne
@Mary G:
Who wants to break the news to him about the printing press? He seems never to have heard of it.
Jeffro
@Mary G: What? The Declaration of Independence and this tax bill = same thing, on multiple levels! Freedumb!!
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
That’s doable for me, where in the hotel or close surrounding area?
And no, I’m not real up on a lot of stuff in Glendale, even though I live in the next town. I do know of a great Armenian place a couple dozen blocks away south of there but it would not work well for much of a big meet up.
MikeS
@Gin & Tonic: I don’t think it is actually a carnivorus plant, just a spiky hairy one. The flower one the left looks like it is in Asteraceae (Asters, sunflowers, thoroughworts, etc.) Time to get out one of my rarely used books for the 2nd time in a week!
Duane
@Yarrow: Remember all the wailing from repubs about reading the ACA.
They’re the biggest bunch of phoney, traitorous, hippocrites to ever walk the earth.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: I won’t have a car but can walk or Lyft. I’ve never been there before so don’t know what’s around.
ETA: but I’m told there is lots of stuff in walking distance of the hotel. I’ll do some checking.
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
That triggered a long-lost memory of Glen Baxter. Glad to see that lots of his stuff is available on Amazon. If you Google him and click the “Images” tab you can see examples of his work.
J R in WV
@Gin & Tonic:
That’s a great shot, great color, contrast, motion.
What were you using for a camera?
Steeplejack
@Another Scott:
That triggered a long-lost memory of Glen Baxter. Glad to see that lots of his stuff is available on Amazon*. If you Google him and click the “Images” tab you can see examples of his work.
* Link removed that probably caused moderation. FYWP.
Another Scott
@Ruckus: You’re not alone having problems with rapid battery drain after the update. Maybe try what they suggest, but you may have to depend on a fix from Lenovo.
Good luck!
Cheers,
Scott.
Duane
@Adam L Silverman: I so hope to see every member of that transition team on trial, in handcuffs, and in jail. Not necessarily in that order.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
If there isn’t a big crowd and you are up for Armenian (it really is good) I could drive you there and back, I live east on the freeway just south of the hotel. I know there are places, in the hotel and around but I have little more specific knowledge than you.
Steeplejack
@Ruckus:
Have you gone into Settings | Apps to see what all is running in the background?
MikeS
@Gin & Tonic: I think it might be cabbage thistle Cirsium oleraceum . Do you have any lpics showing leaves.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: sounds good. Adam and Alain both have my email address. Maybe one of them can share it with you.
Adam L Silverman
@MisterForkbeard: See also Eric Trump.
Ruckus
@Another Scott:
Didn’t see that on the site, but of course I hadn’t looked all that hard. Thanks!
And of course the directions on how to do what they say don’t include the latest update so that will have to wait till they decide to actually figure it out.
Another Scott
@Steeplejack: :-) . Neat stuff. Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Ruckus
@Steeplejack:
I did but didn’t see anything abynormal.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
Sounds good.
Adam? email is OK to Steve in the ATL
Thanks.
Mike in NC
The tax bill doesn’t actually exist tonight or tomorrow but maybe by next Friday.
Central Planning
@Gin & Tonic: Audrey 3?
PsiFighter37
@Mike in NC: It does exist and it’s going to pass tonight unless someone with an R next to their name grows some balls or a conscience. Don’t count on it.
Doug R
@Gin & Tonic: Fütter mich, Seymour!
Adam L Silverman
@Steve in the ATL: @Ruckus: Done!
Steve in the ATL
@Adam L Silverman: thanks, Adam. You’re a good man regardless of what John Cole says about you!
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
Did you get my address? Adam sent me a test email but no address. I sent him a cranky old fart reply.
Steve in the ATL
@Ruckus: I did and sent you an email!
MobiusKlein
Why the fuck is the Senate voting for this all at 1:00 AM Eastern time, on a Friday night?
catclub
@MobiusKlein: How the fuck can the bill pass under reconciliation when it will certainly bust budgets after the ten year window?