Per always-interesting commentor Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly IOL):
Stinger and I met [Saturday], along with her sister. Here’s proof of life.
Left to right: Dorothy A. Winsor/IOL, Stinger, Stinger’s sister Joyce.
Thanks, DAW!
As a reminder… Anyone wants a meet-up in their neighborhood, all you need is an announcement and a general date and/or venue. Send me an email at annelaurie (dot) bj (at) gmail (dot) com, and I’ll put up a post for you.
Downpuppy
Weather permitting, we have to plan one in Boston in 10 (OK, OK, 20) years!
JPL
And a good tie was had by all! Great picture and thank you for posting it.
Downpuppy
Which is to say, WTG, Stinger’s sister Joyce!
Is there a shot with food in the booth?
Adam L Silverman
As a result of this caucus, Senator Bernie Sanders has been projected to win the Democratic Iowa primary.
What?
cain
When is Tamara going to do another denver meet up? Maybe I could get some political folks to show up eh?
Major Major Major Major
Ah, a green balloon, very smart.
stinger
@Downpuppy: What can I say — she was thirsty!
stinger
@Adam L Silverman: NOT.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Downpuppy: We already ate all the food.
Funny thing. Stinger and I pulled into the parking lot at the same time. I’m guessing she recognized me by the green balloon I was holding. She told me her sister might be there, so we asked the guy at the front if someone might be waiting for us. He said, “Is one of you named Stinger?” (only real name) We claimed the name and he led us to the booth. I was ahead and slid onto the bench saying , “Hi, Stinger’s sister!”
In the meantime, Stinger is behind me waving her hands. Turns out this wasn’t Stinger’s sister. She must have thought I was crazy.
Adam L Silverman
@cain: I’ll shoot her an email for you. Please sit by.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Adam L Silverman: One of my very good friends was precinct captain for Sanders at our last caucus. As I recall, we were one of the precincts decided by a flip of a coin. We’re moving to Chicagoland before the next election (god willing) so I’ve probably been to my last caucus.
trollhattan
Flyover country values and green balloons. Nice!
Adam L Silverman
@stinger: You all caucused for Stein? What is wrong with you people?!?!?!?//
Mnemosyne
@cain:
I’m going to be in Denver in mid-July for the RWA conference, so there will be a combined writing/political meetup.
Adam L Silverman
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I was teasing.
WaterGirl
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I laughed out loud! One time in high school I was waiting outside my house for friends to pick me up. Car pulled up, I jumped in, started talking and then noticed the 4 strangers in the car. Oops.
I was not a car person back then. In my twenties, four of us friends drove from Illinois to Colorado and back; someone asked me what kind of car we had driven and I answered “I think it was red.” I was not trying to be funny. We didn’t have a car growing up so I just never paid any attention to them at all.
Omnes Omnibus
@WaterGirl:
My mind is reeling right now.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@Adam L Silverman: I know! Have you ever been to a caucus? It’s an experience.
@WaterGirl: One time when I was teaching at GMI, a student asked me what kind of car I drove and for the life of me, I couldn’t remember. This was a classroom full of car guys. They were horrified.
WaterGIrl
@Omnes Omnibus: I was young!
(and stupid)
WaterGIrl
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Okay, now my mind is reeling at that one!
Doug R
Balloon Juice is people!
WaterGIrl
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I got to work the caucus in “my” precinct in Iowa in January 2008 while I was there working for Barack Obama. Fascinating experience.
Mary G
Yay Midwestern Juicers! You all look like fun people.
Omnes Omnibus
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Hell, I even know all the cars my parents’s have owned, including the ones from before I was born. I don’t know the year of the Renault Dauphine – to my eternal shame.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@WaterGIrl: I knew. I just couldn’t retrieve the name at the moment. And that was long enough ago that I couldn’t even blame old age.
different-church-lady
A fine looking gathering of bots!
WaterGIrl
I just looked up, and one of the 4-month-old pups staying with me is on the couch, which is a no-no even for my dogs. But everyone else is sleeping quietly and I don’t want to upset the applecart.
Major Major Major Major
@different-church-lady: but do they have any weird body parts?
Adam L Silverman
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I’m not even sure if I’ve ever been to Iowa. It may be one of the handful of states I’ve never been to.
WaterGIrl
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Okay, I feel better now. I had that happen to me once – it was so long ago that I don’t recall what it was that I couldn’t come up with, but it was something ridiculous. Oh well.
opiejeanne
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): LOL at forgetting what kind of car you owned.
We live in Washington and we caucused for Hillary. In our group it was a split and there were two delegates for each candidate. No one even brought up Stein. The first round was very pleasant and kind of exciting; we were all neighbors and some of us knew each other. Round 2 a couple of weeks later was when it got ugly with non-delegates shouting down the speakers for Hillary after we had politelyl listened to the speaker for Wilmer. That’s after we’d had the silly motions to do stupid things in protest of something or other. I don’t even remember what those three people wanted or who they were interested in but they were very annoying and the meeting bogged down at that point. Things improved when they split us into Hillary and Wilmer groups to choose our state delegates and decorum resumed. We had teens and people in their 80s and we got our business done. We were leaving and could hear shouting down the hall and wondered what they were yelling about. Maybe the disruptors followed them into their meeting room, but they didn’t have badges.
We let three non-delegates observe from outside in the hall with the door open. They got bored and wandered off after a bit.
ETA: I now hate caucuses from the bottom of my dark, wizened little heart.
Shana
@Adam L Silverman: It’s a beautiful state. I grew up across the river (Mississippi) from Iowa and used to go over to drink as a senior in high school. IA’s drinking age was 18 then, and IL’s was 19. I’ve also spent some time in Iowa City and a bit in Washington, IA. Don’t know if they still do, but Iowa used to have the highest literacy rate in the country.
Steve in the ATL
This meet up had 50% greater turnout than the LA meet up I attended!
Shana
@opiejeanne: OMG! Do you know Carol Ray? She’s my sister-in-law’s sister.
WaterGIrl
@Steve in the ATL: If it’s just two people, isn’t that called a tryst?
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Hell, I have pics of most of them. Here’s me and my sis and our 53 Plymouth. We moved from Chicago to LA in that baby.
TaMara (HFG)
@cain: I have been thinking we should do this again. I went to a Jared Polis house party yesterday and that left me thinking we could do a meet-up and brainstorm on candidates and strategies for Nov.
raven
@Shana: I went to the Wadena Rock Festival in the summer of 70. Used to camp and fish across the river from Keokuk too.
http://www.thegazette.com/subject/news/archive/time-machine/time-machine-1970-wadena-rock-festival-20150622
Major Major Major Major
@Steve in the ATL: makes you wonder what’s the real flyover country.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@opiejeanne: We’ve been here for about 20 years now and, because I worked in Ames during the week, my first caucus was 2008. So it was Obama, who was my choice. But between the first and second round of voting, we Obama supporters were all out in the hall waiting for the Richardson people to make up their mind about what they were going to do. I was standing next to an African American woman who said her husband had been reluctant to come and she told him, “Baby, you gotta come. It’s history.” I swear a chill ran down my body. Yeah. It was history.
Apart from that, I prefer primaries for all the reasons we’ve talked about here. But that moment was amazing.
Shana
@raven: Your link didn’t work for me, but I did a google search and it looked like a fun lineup. We seem to have a number of odd areas of overlap.
Jager
@Omnes Omnibus: Erase the Renault Dauphine from your memory banks, worst car ever…
bystander
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady):
Sounds like one of Spencer Tracy’s lines in The Last Hurrah.
Steve in the ATL
@WaterGIrl: what Ruckus and I had was a beautiful thing!
opiejeanne
@Shana: Hee! Yes, I know everyone in Washington state.
opiejeanne
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): I can understand your reaction. It was historic.
We’ve lived here for 8 years but didn’t get as involved in 2012 as we did this election.
geg6
Always so lovely to put faces to screen names.
As always, I send out an open challenge to Pittsburgh area Juicers to have a get together. After all these years of suggesting one, I realize we all must be the introverts to end all introverts, but we should do this. We might even entice Cole and/or Devin to show up due to proximity.
WaterGIrl
@Steve in the ATL: You were lucky to meet Ruckus!
Major Major Major Major
@WaterGIrl: Your screen name has a typo again.
Shana
@opiejeanne: My husband is Janet’s husband’s youngest brother. Went with them to AFI Silver theater last year to see Saving Brinton. Lovely movie about a guy in Iowa who found a treasure trove of early movies, including a bunch of Melies’ films that were thought to be lost. A delightful film.
Gin & Tonic
@Jager: There are quite a few Russian and Eastern European cars that would like to have a word with you.
WaterGirl
test
Omnes Omnibus
@Jager: It was part of a trio with a ’59 Austin Healey 100-6 and a ’65 Corvair Monza with the turbo engine.
WaterGirl
@Major Major Major Major: Thank you. My kitty had erased WaterGirl and entered a , in its place – and when I re-entered WaterGirl, my laptop remembered the previous misspelling. Thanks for letting me know.
raven
@Omnes Omnibus: Unsafe at any speed!
raven
@Shana: I just found a 15 minute video of the festival on youtube but I couldn’t find myself.
raven
@Shana: You seen Jesus’ Son?
Mnemosyne
The recipe I’m following says it’s supposed to make 6 servings of chili, but this is a LOT of chili. I guess I know what we’re both having for lunch for the next week or so.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Memory hazy as to whether that was one of the Renaults with a push-button transmission.
Steve in the ATL
@raven:
Also applies to any vehicle is my wife is driving
Omnes Omnibus
@raven: That’s the Corsa (first gen) and Ralph had his head up his ass.
Shana
@raven: No, but it sounds interesting. I’ll look for the youtube clip.
NotMax
@Mnemosyne
Recipe from the Sumo Stable Cookbook?
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: If I lived near you I’d totally take some off your hands!
Omnes Omnibus
@NotMax: It was available on that model. It was not on dad’s car.
opiejeanne
@Shana: That sounds nice. How would I know your sister-in-law’s sister? Where in the state of Washington does she live?
I’m a bit confused. You saw a movie in Maryland about old movies (yay for the rescue) found in Iowa. I’m not sure how all of this is connected.
Mnemosyne
@NotMax:
@Major Major Major Major:
It’s a new recipe that works with my tummy issues, so it’s fairly nontraditional. So far, it smells great, though it seems a little thin without beans to thicken it.
stinger
@Mary G: We are!
stinger
@different-church-lady: Спасибо.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: So… taco stew, basically? Still yummy.
oldgold
My sister attended the Wadena music festival. She was supposed to be visiting a friend. About a week after the festival, her story fell apart. My parents went ballistic.
Even though I did not attend, the length of my hair, which had previously been a sore point, went to defcon 2. “We will have no gd hippies in this house!”
opiejeanne
@Mnemosyne: I screwed up the chicken pot pie I made, somehow the gravy was fine when I finished making it but now that the pie has cooked it’s found some extra liquid somewhere while it was baking. It’s somewhere between soup and stew. Tastes good but that was not what I was going for. Drat.
J R in WV
@Adam L Silverman:
Yeah, me too, the Dakotas, Minnesota, Iowa, Montana, I think I’ve been to all the others.
Nevada we crossed on the train, I did step off in Reno at like 2 or 3 am, just to say I had been there. Lots of desert!! We did Idaho coming back to Salt Lake from Jackson’s Hole after visiting Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons, just a corner. That trip we rented a Lincoln, which was actually a fun car, and got 32 mpg over two weeks in the mountains.
WaterGirl
@opiejeanne: Maybe from the veggies? Or if your chicken pot pie had a top crust, maybe the steam that could get out? Just spitballing.
jk
h/t https://sps.boisestate.edu/politicalscience/files/2018/02/Greatness.pdf
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
At the moment, a little more soup-y, but I took off the lid and turned the heat up a smidge to see if that will boil off some of the extra liquid.
@opiejeanne:
Weirdly, I remember that that was how Kimberly lost “The Great British Baking Show” in the first season that was broadcast in the US. It wasn’t a pot pie, but a similar meat-and-pastry concoction and the gravy wrecked the pastry when she baked it.
Shana
@opiejeanne: Sorry I thought you were in Washington Iowa. My mistake.
chris
Go to Sioux City and drive around a bit. You can go to Iowa, Nebraska and South Dakota in about an hour.
J R in WV
@raven:
Keokuk is a famous rock-hound place, geodes of all kinds – well with all kinds of crystals in them, they’re all the same kind of geode. I have a couple I traded for, but never got that far west on a rock hounding trip.
Mike J
@opiejeanne:
At my second round Berners challenged every single Hillary vote cast. Later, some of their number left but still wanted their votes counted.
Omnes Omnibus
@chris: Okay?
hilts
More bullshit behavior from the ratfucking Trump Inc
h/t http://www.bbc.com/news/business-43108549
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Did it say if it was an “Adam sized” serving of chili or a normal size?
J R in WV
@chris:
Oh, hell, I’ve never been to Nebraska either, which I left off.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: What is the conversion factor?
WaterGirl
For the folks who mentioned TPLO last week when I said my dog Henry has to have surgery… I checked with my vet and TPLO is an option even though he is a little guy. So thank you to Jay and MoxieM for the tip.
Also, as I googled TPLO on balloon juice, I found a bunch of posts over time from cosima who kept us up to date as things progressed in the weeks after surgery. cosima, if you are still here on BJ, let me know if you see me in a thread? Henry’s surgery is on 2/27. thanks.
edit; i did see one thing in the BJ comments that has be worriedv- something like “as you know if there’s a problem with the TPLO, there’s nothing else that can be done”. If anyone can shed some light on that, I would really appreciate it.
I am headed to bed with all the pups now, but I will check back in the morning. Goodnight all!
Omnes Omnibus
@Mnemosyne: Soggy bottom?
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: Multiply by a hogshead, divide by 3, and then derive the square root.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
The recipe did not specify, but we probably should not have assumed it was normal sized servings.
It’s quite tasty, but definitely more soup-like.
opiejeanne
@WaterGirl: It had a big steam hole, but it wasn’t a pastry crust. The top was sliced potatoes brushed with oil and arranged in a spiral design. It looked pretty. I think you’re right about the veggies, probably the peas I added to it after the veggies and gravy were finished. Possibly peas and the potatoes. I can fix it. I usually put a top and bottom crust on this thing and I’ve never had this problem, but the potatoes are cooked first before the pie is closed up.
stinger
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): The caucus process gives a candidate’s supporters the chance to try to persuade others to vote for her/him, on the spot right before voting takes place. It can be informative for voters who aren’t deeply into politics, and there’s something special about hearing your neighbors and acquaintances talk passionate politics on this one day every four years! It gives me a sense of community, like an old Norman Rockwell painting — much more so than marching into a curtained booth and marking up a ballot in isolation and silence (and perhaps some ignorance). It also offers some of the features of ranked-choice voting.
I understand that primaries make it easier for more voters to participate, but I’ll miss caucusing when it goes away, which I expect it shall.
Major Major Major Major
@J R in WV: Growing up, I spent a lot of time at the family farm out near Wilber, Nebraska, the ‘Czech capital of the USA.’ So if you like Czech food, Nebraska has that going for it, but it’s in the middle of nowhere.
Lincoln is… fine. You don’t get beat up so much for being queer any more, I hear.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus:
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Odds are it’ll thicken up a bit as it sits in the fridge overnight.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Convert collar size to ounces to get the recommended serving?
:)
Scamp Dog
@cain: I handled the details for our last get-together, and I’d be happy to set up another. AL, fell free to pass my contact info on to Cain. Or if you want, Cain, you can contact TaMara and she can get you my information. I think we originally set up the meetup to introduce you to the area, but your work had you travelling on that date, IIRC. So we definitely need to set up another that you’ll be able to come to. Sometime in March?
Mnemosyne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Mary Berry did not approve.
opiejeanne
@Shana: OH! LOL! Now we’re on the same page. Your comments were giving me a little bit of a surreal experience. Still giggling.
And I’m glad they found those “lost” Melies films. The man was a genius. The movie “Hugo” touches on his story, the grumpy old man is supposed to be Melies.
Corner Stone
@stinger:
No it doesn’t. It gives a bunch of shouty assholes with time on their hands a chance to bully or intimidate regular people into moving into their corner.
Omnes Omnibus
@stinger: Voting is an individual thing. Campaigning is a group thing. They shouldn’t mix.
Another Scott
@Major Major Major Major: Hey, it’s hard to be more Czech than New Prague, Minnesota. My MIL’s family was from there.
Or so I’ve been told. (Never been there, or to Nebraska, myself.)
Cheers,
Scott.
Adam L Silverman
I’ll just leave this here:
Corner Stone
Jesus. Just fucking enough with the “both sides” bullshit. For fuck’s sake.
Adam L Silverman
@NotMax: 18 inch collar.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Steve in the ATL: That could be because you didn’t tell anyone there was a meetup.
oldgold
@Another Scott:
Cedar Rapids, Iowa is a contender. Czech culture runs deep there.
Ninedragonspot
@Major Major Major Major: I grew up in the Star City, as Lincoln likes to style itself. Still fondly remember the Czech kolaches.
After I moved to the Bay Area, someone asked me, “How is it that every guy I meet from Nebraska is gay?” I replied, “because we all left.”
oldgold
@Corner Stone:
The caucus process makes you appreciate the value of the secret ballot.
MomSense
Looks like a nice party with some lovely Jackals.
I may be in Boston at the end of March. Kid’s band has a gig at some club but it may be too stalker parent for me to go.
Scamp Dog
@TaMara (HFG): Cool, let’s do this!
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus:
Isn’t that what they call Tillerson’s State Department?
Corner Stone
These Parkland kids are breaking my heart.
MomSense
@Corner Stone:
Same for me. ?
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: If you aren’t one of the cool kids, you will never get it.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: (hangs head in shame…)
Omnes Omnibus
@?BillinGlendaleCA: It is weird PBS, anglophile, cool kid stuff.
Mandalay
Nobody could have predicted….
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus:
My first car! 1967, red with tan leather seats. Bought it for $300 when I graduated from high school.
opiejeanne
@Mike J: The bullying! It was insane. I remember some of your stories and heard from several others. Even some of Wilmer’s supporters were bothered, young people who were initially excited became disillusioned by the events at their round 2 for their area.
Omnes Omnibus
@O. Felix Culpa: My dad was never sure why he bought that car. I suspect that it was because it started in the cold when the Healey wouldn’t turnover.
Corner Stone
@Omnes Omnibus: Your family has some weird car fetishes.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Omnes Omnibus: OK, I’ll see my way out.
Steve in the ATL
@Corner Stone: be thankful we’re only hearing about the car ones
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: If you see it that way.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL: Oh, yeah…
O. Felix Culpa
@Omnes Omnibus: The Dauphine is ranked as one of the worst cars of all time (although I imagine the Yugo surpasses in that category), but I loved it.
ETA: Got fantastic gas mileage, a real bonus during the OPEC gas shortage years.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Just about two years ago….
Just a few hours ago….
Ruckus
@Jager:
Sorry the Renault out shines the 2CV. Not by much mind you but it does. Known people that owned each of them. Neither was worth a crap, even way back in the 60s.
Viva BrisVegas
I notice that on the same day as the greater tragedy, in Amarillo a bad guy with a gun held a church full of people hostage. Thankfully a good guy without a gun wrestled the weapon away from him. The hero was then promptly shot multiple times by the attending police.
He survived the shooting.
Ruckus
@Steve in the ATL:
Speak for yourself my friend. It was just average.
Omnes Omnibus
@O. Felix Culpa: Imagine being in your early 20s with a less than Jaguar but above MG sports car. No regs about who sits where. The Renault got him to work. That was the only time it was used.
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
Sounds like me being able to say I’ve been to England. The ship stopped in Plymouth to refuel and I went on the pier to empty the trash. I can truthfully say I’ve walked on English soil. Same in the Azores.
Origuy
I’m reminded of the Steven Wright joke. He drove across the country once with only one cassette tape to listen to. He couldn’t remember what it was.
Ruckus
@O. Felix Culpa:
I forgot about the Yugo. Had a young lady that worked for me buy one. She was trying to establish credit and that was the cheapest “car” available. I’d have to agree that the Renault was better, but we are talking a very few degrees of better.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ruckus: Investigate the Trabant.
Calouste
@Adam L Silverman: The shitgibbon talked in the summer of 2011 about running for 2012, but decided not too. Coincidentally, so did Wilmer.
Ruckus
@Omnes Omnibus:
That really wasn’t a car as much as a collection of parts that didn’t fit together.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I think the next 24 hours are gonna be fun for Elder Etch-A-Sketch
I guess he thinks “condoning” means “bragging about”
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Well, Cole is already making excuses for Mitt on his twit feed. So I guess supplicants are still welcomed.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Corner Stone: I didn’t have much hope for Willard to be the noble voice of NeverTrump in the Senate, but I didn’t think he’d signal his capitulation so quickly
cain
@Mnemosyne:
Sweet, you’re like one of hte people I would really love to meet!
As a side note, remember I told you those teens are going to get the “granite countertops” treatment? Seems like gateway pundit has already started the conspiracy theories. Hell Chelsea Clinton implored that asshole to go back and attack her instead of the kids. See the asshole’s tweet Parents, teachers, everyone is going to be attacked by these guys. Apparently, it’s not too soon to go after the victims.
No Drought No More
How desperate has Trump grown since Good Friday of last week? Desperate enough to endorse Mitt Romney tonight, that’s how much. Remember the dinner photo taken while Romney groveled while angling to run the State Department? Think Mitt has forgotten either?
Romney, of course, will soon be playing the role once played by the democrat’s Joe Lieberman* during the late 90’s great Presidential Penis Scandal. I’m looking forward to the performance, though no doubt not nearly as much as The Mittster himself is.
*(Al Gore’s greatest and most inexcusable political miscalculation. WTF was he thinking that day?).
Yutsano
@cain: And he’s (mostly) getting dragged in the responses. Of course he just drops shit without actually responding. The weasel.*
*No offence to any weasels reading this. Y’all are good peeps.
Matt McIrvin
@jk: Wikipedia has a big collection of these President-ranking exercises:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States
Barack Obama seems to have moved up in this one. Also, it’s interesting to see Ronald Reagan climb in estimation as his myth gets burnished. Historians seem not to have liked him in the 1990s but now consider him top 10. Or maybe it’s just that the Siena rankings don’t like him.
Matt McIrvin
@cain: From now on, being a survivor of a mass shooting means that conspiracy assholes are going to go after you and your family.
Aleta
Corner Stone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s weird that he’s maybe coming from UT though, right? They don’t really like Trump there. So why is Mitt fellating Trump in a pre-emptive fashion?
Matt McIrvin
@Shana: My mother was born in Washington, Iowa. Grew up in Davenport.
Corner Stone
@Yutsano: I still don’t know how a bunch of these assholes do not wake up dead one day.
Aleta
@J R in WV: As kids we used to camp at Geode State Park and the state park near Keokuk. My older siblings found geodes. (I lost my stuffed dog.)
John Revolta
@Matt McIrvin:
I……………what?
I suppose hair metal will be next. Lemme the fuck outta here!
cain
@TaMara (HFG):
I seem to know a number of people running for office so it might be fun.
Yutsano
@Corner Stone: Because whatever deity that is supposed to be watching over us has been way too hands off lately.
Steve in the ATL
@Matt McIrvin: Reagan was top ten overall, or top ten of those who committed treason?
cain
@Scamp Dog:
Oh, man, I feel bad. Yeah, I think I went to China that week, there was a lot of travel. For March, I’m free the first weekend, but traveling on the second weekend, and then free again on the 3rd weekend, and not free on the last weekend before April.
Yes, please, love to have the contacts and set up something before publishing.
frosty
@J R in WV: I picked up everything but Hawaii by 1978. Still hanging at 49. It’s tough to get both Dakotas without going a day out if your way. I did it on a Greyhound Ameripass, Minneapolis to Aberdeen to Fargo to TR Nat’l Monument in 2 days.
Corner Stone
@cain: Yu should feel bad.
cain
@Matt McIrvin:
Yes, because their entire goal is to muddle everything to the point that nobody knows what the truth is. I mean to the point that it never happened. In which case, what did that asshole going on trial for? Those kids are going to see their lives dragged in the glass. I hope that we’re all strong enough to push back and shout them back down to their mother’s basement where they belong.
cain
@Corner Stone:
That’s why I’m drinking whiskey! But I’m slowly feelin gooooooooood. ;)
? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?
@Matt McIrvin:
@cain:
Why can’t we go after them in kind?
Aleta
Who ARE these freestyle skiiers?
efgoldman
@raven: My dad’s first brand new car was a ’56 Plymouth Plaza (bottom of the line) with tail fins anddpush button auto trans to the left of the steering column; they called it “Wedgwood blue” but it always looked turquoise to me
efgoldman
@Jager:
My first wife bought one shortly before we were separated. I don’t know what happened to it, or her.
frosty
@efgoldman: I think my dad’s was a ’49 Merc, at least that’s the car my P’s got married in. His friends soaped it and Dad made them wash it off before he left the reception.
cain
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?:
I think you know, we’re not that kind of asshole. These people are head crazy. All we want is just some fairness and justice. These guys have sold their soul and are stark raving nuts. We simply don’t have the kind mentality to start peaking in houses looking for dirty on these people. Plus they are usually anonymous going after public figures.
Aleta
Speaking of meetings:

Mike in NC
MSNBC now says LTG McMaster in danger of being fired for speaking truth in front of Fat Bastard. What a shithead.
Aleta
@Aleta:
cain
It will require great organization to keep the interest high, and get people motivated out there and participate.
Matt McIrvin
@Steve in the ATL: When Reagan was in office I remember thinking: In the future everyone will consider this man one of the greatest Presidents, and they’ll all be wrong.
efgoldman
@? ?? Goku (aka Baka Amerikahito) ? ?:
Because we believe in truth, and facts, and inconvenient shit like that. It’s not in our DNA
Aleta
This rally was held at the state capital in Ky on the morning of Feb 14th, planned and held before Parkland happened. These groups have been organizing and meeting for years. Since the shooting, many more people have joined the Ky chapters of the groups.
From the Courier Journal (Ind and Ky)
J R in WV
Wow. Not a surprise that there are people sick enough to attack people working to prevent deaths and maimed students. What a shame to learn that it is happening so quickly, so soon after all those people lost loved ones to terrorism. I guess if people tried to convince the nation that no kids were killed in Connecticut, that that was stage craft by anti-gun politicians, nothing is too low for those creeps.
But hearing that meetings are overflow suddenly make me hope that the balance has changed, and that the worms launching attacks on activists working for safety and peace will crawl back into the basement holes. Thanks for all that good news from all over the country.
I fought for peace and against the Vietnam war nearly 50 years ago until I was drafted with a low birthday number in the draft lottery, and we were all attacked as unAmerican hippies back then for hating death and maimed children. Some things change really slowly, until the tipping point is reached. I believe I will have a tiny sip of whiskey and go back to bed for another bit of attempted sleep on that good note.
Thanks again for the good news!!
Ruckus
@J R in WV:
I too think it is different this time. That there are enough people this time to offset those who think that death to others makes their life better. The war was big but it happened relatively fast, a huge build up, with just enough people who remembered WWII positively and of course the communist menace. This is different, this war is first going on at home, the only people being defeated are the innocent victims, who aren’t at war at all, and there isn’t a menace other than the shooters and the guns, and it has built to a point that it is way past just a phase, it is constant, it hits close to home and it is just as unnecessary.
Miss Bianca
@cain: way late to this thread, but I’d love another Denver meet-up. Had to miss the last one Also had to miss meeting up with sme lovely BJ folks down in New Mexico and I haz a sad about that.
Let’s do it!