Former New York mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, a combative former prosecutor and longtime ally of President Trump, told The Washington Post on Thursday that he has joined the president’s legal team dealing with the ongoing special counsel probe.
“I’m doing it because I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller,” Giuliani said in an interview.
Trump counsel Jay Sekulow said Thursday in a statement that Giuliani is joining the team along with two former federal prosecutors, Jane Serene Raskin and Marty Raskin, a couple who jointly run a Florida-based law firm.
What’s the opposite of the dream team? At least this will be entertaining.
MomSense
The scream team.
Thoughtful David
Trump couldn’t get a real lawyer who’s not compromised, Giuliani couldn’t get a job because he is. They’re a perfect match.
lollipopguild
I wonder what Mueller might have on Rudy911?
Ruckus
Entertaining?
OK watching them fall all over themselves and step on their own genitalia 4 times a minute will be fun. At least no one has to worry about being over matched on this legal team. Wonder who will be the boss? drumpf? Ok now that would be fucking hilarious.
What is this legal eagle team called, The Mess of Stooges?
RedDirtGirl
He has a terrifying visage!
EL
I (non lawyer here) was wondering if Trump and Giuliani have to ensure some conversations are “privileged.” I wouldn’t be surprised if Giuliani could be at risk.
germy
The video has to be seen to be believed. It’s strange, and the interviewer pretends it’s just another normal talking head.
different-church-lady
germy
LG&M comment:
Ohio Mom
Who said there are no second acts in America? We seem to be stuck in an endless loop. The same useless, miserable characters keep popping up, they never go away.
JPL
So AP already has the Comey memos, and everyone is surprised that it took so long. Today sucks.
different-church-lady
@JPL: They’re going to impeach Hillary for sure now.
Elizabelle
WRT Mueller: cannot imagine that feeling is mutual.
I’d like to know what Team Mueller is calling Trump’s brain trust? Vulture Culture?
tobie
@JPL: How long was that. Like one hour?
Adam L Silverman
@germy:
Just One More Canuck
“negotiate”? WTF?
JMG
@JPL: I wouldn’t be surprised if the Comey memo leak came from the DOJ. Better to put them out there in toto before they are subjected to creative editing by House Judiciary and Intelligence. It’s been reported Mueller had no objection to the memos release. He’s always been a step ahead of the game so far.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
I don’t like Giuliani but is he a bad lawyer? I have no idea.
Adam L Silverman
@germy: This is the answer you’re looking for:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/wayne-barrett-donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-peas-pod-article-1.2776357
Much more at the link.
Baud
@Just One More Canuck:
I don’t like it either, but Trump agreeing to a plea bargain might be the best thing for the country.
Sister Golden Bear
I’m assuming it’ll be a surprise for Lord Tinyfingers that he won’t be able negotiate a settlement like the ones he did with the contactors he strong-armed into taking 5 percent of what they were owed….
OTOH, maybe they’re hoping Mueller will accept a plea bargain to “a little light treason.”
unpopularopinion
People. We are so f’d. He’s not there to do any legal work. He is there because he has vast amounts of experience lying on tv. He is the PR front to the firing of Meuller that is coming sooner, not later.
germy
@Adam L Silverman:
Ladies and Gentlemen, please rise for the president of the United States.
lollipopguild
@Baud: Wishful thinking-exactly what our next President needs.
Baud
Some good news.
Elizabelle
@ 499 on the Lily thread.
I keep hoping Dance Around in your Bones will show up. Miss her.
sukabi
@lollipopguild: I don’t know, but like I mentioned down stairs, I hope Mueller greets him with a 2 am no knock warrant for his home and offices.
rikyrah
@germy:
This shyt is crazy!
Joyce H
@Just One More Canuck:
Wouldn’t it be awesome if he showed up at Mueller’s office to negotiate, and Mueller says “but before we get started – ” and then reads him his rights?
Elizabelle
@sukabi:
I am in an evil mood.
SO: was Rudy lying low because of the scandal page third divorce? And I kinda think he’s on this team to protect his own interests. He may have been involved in the underlying crimes.
TenguPhule
@Ohio Mom:
First Tunch, Now Lily.
Is this hell?
lollipopguild
@Elizabelle: Rudy is probably dating his 4th wife as we speak, which would put him one up on Gingrich.
Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)
I don’t know. A nightmare team? A clown team? A shit show fail parade team? There are so many choices.
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman: I thought there was general consensus that Prison Rape Jokes are considered uncool here?
TenguPhule
@Adam L Silverman: How the fuck did that story not be the top story of 2015 or 2016?
JPL
Here’s the memos ..
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4442900-Ex-FBI-Director-James-Comey-s-memos.html
Baud
Tim Illingworth
The taint team?
Sergio Lopez
Opening statement: noun-verb-911
Closing statement: noun-verb-911
Emma
So my WTF???!!! streak remains unbroken. Giuliani. Jesus, son of Mary, stepson of Joseph.
CarolDuhart2
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): My guess is that he’s a rusty lawyer and hasn’t really practiced law in over 20 years. Not in the lot of research and hardworking part of law, which is what he would need to be even equal to Mueller. Since he’s been mayor, he may have been a name on the letterhead, hired to give prestige and his rolodex to the firm, not actually do any real work.
Also, negotiate with Mueller? What could he offer that would be enough for him to consider, let alone actually close up his investigations? And I think it’s too late-even if Mueller let Trump off the hook, he already has several prosecutions and a couple of trials scheduled. A deal does not unindict those people or reverse the sentences already granted.
PVDMichael
Oh.. I wish I had the power to control a Russian bot farm to get that creepy Rudy Giuliani-in-drag/Trump video trending.
Baud
@TenguPhule: Not as sexy as emails.
lamh36
@JPL: someone on twitter joked…they sent them damn memos to EV’RYBODY!
Elizabelle
@Baud: I’d never expected Trump to attend, and thank dog for that.
Airwaves gonna be full of praise for the “good type” of Republicans, though.
JPL
@Baud: He has a golf date which takes precedent.
Baud
@Elizabelle: Sadly, George and Barbara are probably a couple of their best.
Elizabelle
@Tim Illingworth: The taint team. Has possibilities. On several levels. Well done.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: I was just posting the tweet. Moreover, I don’t think this guy was joking. I get the impression he’s an 80 some odd year old bigoted NY attorney.
germy
@Elizabelle: Roger Stone just made some comments about Barbara Bush.
Adam L Silverman
@TenguPhule: Wayne Barrett did try to push it during the election. But he was also dying. And the news media decided the President’s and his campaign were good for business.
germy
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-adviser-roger-stone-barbara-bush-drunk-893012
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Nothing, Nothing is as sexy as emails.
Feebog
Ghouliani adds nothing to Trumpov’s legal team. Anybody know anything about the lawyers from Florida added to the team?
Elizabelle
@Baud: At this point, you know they are. They predate Newt Gingrich and the overt nastiness he ushered in.
I guess that funeral will be a reunion of the old, old guard. Maybe Brent Scowcroft, Bob and Elizabeth Dole — who else is still around? The Quayles, and he is no longer the most odious VP choice to hale from Indiana…
Shell
Add John Bolton to that category.
germy
@Adam L Silverman:
He was serious. And his “racial” comment meant basically “Michael doesn’t want to be around a bunch of Blacks.”
Mnemosyne
@TenguPhule:
There is. Apparently we have higher standards than fucking CNN now. ?
Captain C
Interesting that Trump added a man with experience in high-profile organized crime cases to his team. Also, could Giuliani be a stool pigeon? Would that even be remotely legal?
TenguPhule
@Baud:
He was not invited.
Adam L Silverman
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): @CarolDuhart2: The last one of these he put himself in the middle of, last year, didn’t end very well for his client.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-mysterious-case-involving-turkey-iran-and-rudy-giuliani
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/30/nyregion/rudolph-giuliani-reza-zarrab-iran-sanctions-case.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turkish-gold-trader-reza-zarrab-accused-raping-nyc-cellmate-n827466
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/turkey-puts-squeeze-u-s-witness-who-implicated-erdogan-n826586
TenguPhule
@Mnemosyne: Low bar of ethical standards is low.
chopper
@Elizabelle:
it’s been a while. I miss her too.
Adam L Silverman
@Feebog: White collar specialists. Misspelled their name on their own website.
TenguPhule
@germy: Fuck Stone for forcing me to side with a Bush.
Elizabelle
@Adam L Silverman: Well that’s promising.
Maybe Dick Wolf can do a new series, with more Rudy Giuiliani cameos. Law & Order: High Treason
Adam L Silverman
@germy: I’m aware.
Downpuppy
Given the attempt to use the Bulger saga to smear Mueller with having been in the Justice Department in Boston from 1983-1986, the choice of Trump’s new lawyer is interesting, Her firm bio mentions:
lamh36
germy
@Adam L Silverman: What’s the deal with Republicans and typos? Everyone from the local idiots who comment on my newspaper websites to the White House and its lawyers… they can’t put four words together without screwing up two of them.
Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady)
@CarolDuhart2: @Adam L Silverman: That’s useful. Thanks.
Elizabelle
@lamh36: Hey. That sounds like actual truth-telling, by both Trump and Putin. Nice introduction to the memos.
Adam L Silverman
@germy: Eye dew not no.
TenguPhule
@lamh36:
SMH.
Once again, this script would be rejected by Hollywood for being too unbelievable.
SiubhanDuinne
@Thoughtful David:
Fucking poetry, that is.
raven
Rachel is doing a great interview with Comey.
TenguPhule
Fiction: “I give up, Reality. Ewe win.”
jl
” At least this will be entertaining. ”
I for one, am tired of being entertained.
RG had some inside pipeline to FBI leaks and outside (and very partisan) influence on SDNY FBI office, and hacked emails, during the election. So, is Rudi doing this to help Trump, or get next to Mueller to put in a good word and see whether he needs get working quick on a deal, but for himself? I think that is a fair and interesting question.
Edit: could be planning on being a clever spy into Mueller and other probes too.
germy
The courts.
Mnemosyne
@germy:
It’s one of the ways they show their contempt for us plebes, who have to worry about stupid shit like typos in order to be heard.
Ruckus
@germy:
Nothing but the best and the brightest!
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Was it prefaced by a 40 minute deep dive into the origin of the name James and how it can be shortened to Jim?
JPL
@raven: Yes she is.
TenguPhule
@germy: I can see he’s going to fit in fine with the New World Disorder.
Mnemosyne
@jl:
Obligatory.
JPL
Comey just threw a lifeline to McCabe.. He didn’t have to talk to him, but would have expected him to.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@TenguPhule: Except that was on national TV and apparently that idiot wasn’t joking,… god gawd.
Just One More Canuck
@lollipopguild: a visionary for these troubled times
Gelfling 545
@Baud:”Donald Trump will not attend ”. That should be a comfort to the family.
efgoldman
@Just One More Canuck:
I said in an earlier thread: I’m sure NounVerb911 bullshitted Weasel Face that he can fix things with his New York friends.
He can’t but that’s what he bullshitted.
I’m thinking Weasel Face (or somebody) must have written a lot of certified checks.
SiubhanDuinne
Just had a squint at Facebook, and it seems I have a bunch of relatives who equate FOX News, CNN, and MSNBC.
I’m trying not to engage, but it’s really, really hard, y’all.
Anne Laurie
ETA: Rudy needs the money — presumably delivered to an account his about-to-be ex-wife #3 can’t access. Of course Trump won’t pay him, but I’m guessing Rudy figures he’ll bill the RNC ‘Friends of the President’…
jl
@TenguPhule: Never forget the ‘nuts’ element in the Trump mess, in addition to corruption, selfishness, ignorance and malevolence. I noticed a sequence of truly insane, incoherent, and out-of-it tweets on his foreign trade policy, and was going to post them here with a comment, but the situation is just too depressing right now. If I remember I’ll do it later.
Baud
@raven: I’ll have to remember to catch it tomorrow.
SiubhanDuinne
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Elizabelle
Said V. Putin to B. Obama never.
jl
@germy:
” The video has to be seen to be believed. It’s strange, and the interviewer pretends it’s just another normal talking head. ”
It is very weird to see Trumpster surrogates talking like they are in scenes from Goodfellas kibbitzing on which of the mobsters are going to rat out, or hold strong, or do hard time. But the corporate news actors sit there and feel they have to pretend nothing unusual is going on.
dexwood
@SiubhanDuinne: \
Couldn’t agree more. What a “thoughtful” summary of the situation and the ghoulish crooks involved.
Gravenstone
@germy: English as second language, comrade.
jl
@Elizabelle: beat me to it. I should have read all the comments before I chipped in.
Gravenstone
@Adam L Silverman: You might want to see someone about that nasty homonym problem you got there…
Anotherlurker
For a good picture of what Rudy G. is, a preening, inflated, Narcissistic Blowhard, please read Wayne Barrette and Dan Collins (Rolling Stone investigatitive journalists) book: “The Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giulianni and 9/11”.
Very enlightening and infuriating.
Rudy, the tough Prosecutor, could not even sight an Emergency Response Control Center properly. Instead of the hardened realestate of the Brooklyn Metroplex, he had to locate it on the 7th floor of 7 WTC. Ground Zero. The dust covered mayor should be a symbol of failure, in the service of greed, instead of the “hero” he keeps telling everyone he is.
Plenty more pictures painted by Barrett and Collins, in the book, show a self promoting asshole who knows who to tongue bathe.
There is much more. Sadly, old news. But it gives a good picture of the asshole and his motivation
JPL
So Trump never spoke to Putin except for that time Putin bragged about beautiful hookers.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Elizabelle: I don’t believe trump and Putin ever spoke before the election. I’ve got the Corn/Issikoff audiobook, and I’ve gotten away from it for about a week as I’ve been busy, but I know Putin blew him off during the whole Miss Universe thing
(Maddow digging in on Rudi. Good)
lamh36
Quinerly
@raven: fantastic interview.
Elizabelle
Interesting. Comey commissioned an investigation into leaks from the FBI to Giuliani — how Rudy got advance word — but doesn’t know the outcome because he was fired before he heard the results.
Mr. Wray? Is that investigation complete yet?
NotMax
Rudolph the brown-nosed splaindeer.
Jay S
@Baud: Yep if Rudi could negotiate Trumps exit without getting anyone killed, it would probably be for the best.
Elizabelle
@jl: Not hardly. There is no protocol for reading a thread.
Steve in the ATL
@germy:
If that was threaded you better delete it right now!
Adam L Silverman
@Gravenstone: Aisle caul sumwon.
Steve in the ATL
@Elizabelle: “The Thread Reading Protocol” was my least favorite Robert Ludlum book
Eljai
@raven: It started out slowly for me because Comey kept responding that he couldn’t answer specific questions. But I could see what she was trying to get at. Now it’s riveting.
JPL
So the Nunes’ group thinks that releasing the memos was a good idea, because Comey hadn’t written scathing memos like this about Obama.
Well I say DUH wtf
Adam L Silverman
@Elizabelle:
Bupalos
I haven’t read thrPugh to see if this has been grokked yet, but the obvious play here is that Giuliani is coming in with this “I like both sides , that’s why I must mediate” thing strictly so that 6-12 days from now he can render judgement for trump, as an “impartial party.” That is 105% of the deal here.
jl
@JPL: I’ve read some of the Comey memos. They are only scathing because of what Trump said. So, did Trump actually say them or not? Did Obama ever say anything like that, or not? Seems pretty simple to me.
Anyway, the GOP Congressional weasels and malfeasants have to say something. They are steamed that they didn’t get them first and issue dishonest extracts in order to do a smear job.
Gelfling 545
@germy: Stone must think he’ll live forever.
khead
The Washington Generals.
BroD
Rudy’s the designated driver for the get-away car. Plus, he knows a guy who knows a guy if you get my drift.
jl
Rudy is desperate because the Baud 2020! turned him down for campaign legal work? My new favorite theory.
terraformer
@JPL: God isn’t that the truth. Everyone’s from the same central casting from Ghouls, Inc.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Rachel Maddow says she had one conversation with trump. I wonder when that was? I’m guessing either before or early in his campaign. Sounds like a story worth telling.
Gelfling 545
@jl: And not attempting to deny there is anything to rat about.
Elizabelle
@NotMax:
Love it.
Guys: can you remember other cases/scandals where the legal help ended up getting indicted too? Watergate and John Dean, but what else ?? Does that happen much in real-life mob and RICO cases?
Gravenstone
@JPL: and a reminder that Comey long ago explained that those contemporaneous memos about Trump were as a result of his talking one on one with Trump. A situation Obama didn’t put him in.
Inventor
@NotMax: That’s fucking awesome.
Elizabelle
Kevin Drum blogpost title:
*snort* Thinking Aerosmith here.
jl
@Gravenstone: Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten that previous presidents didn’t force themselves into inappropriate situations so they could say self-incriminating shit. Even Dub had more sense than that.
Edit: All the Trumpsters have is ‘Sezhooo?” and “obvious Deep State conspiracy”. Which thankfully is BS now dismissed by at least 2/3 of the country, and signs that it is wearing thin with at least some of the rest.
debbie
Andy Borowitz on FB:
Adam L Silverman
Millard Filmore
@germy:
Yeah, that’s the ticket. Government is too big. End the interference in commerce … abolish the corporate veil and other laws that sloppy business owners can hide behind.
SiubhanDuinne
@Adam L Silverman:
Of course he knew. Of course.
debbie
@JPL:
What is the downside of releasing these memos?
J R in WV
@TenguPhule:
That’s not a joke, Tengu… it’s a quote. From a participant.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Trump says he didn’t stay overnight in Moscow. He did. (Beutler is a Pee-Liever)
Adam L Silverman
@debbie: Potentially complicates and/or taints a future criminal prosecution arising from the special counsel’s investigation. According to the reporting Mueller was consulted and indicated he had no issues with them being handed over to Congress. This seems to indicate he doesn’t need them to make whatever cases he expects to make.
Mike J
@debbie: I expected them to trickle out stuff out of context. My guess is that somebody hostile to house Republicans leaked the whole thing preëmptively.
Timurid
@TenguPhule:
Because the MSM was tanking harder than Heinz Guderian.
The immolation of Trump would have been epic, and the press could have played it as white knight guardians of the Republic or as if-it-bleeds-it-leads ghouls… and made a killing either way. But they decided to leave all that money on the table. Their approach to Trump during the election, transition and his Presidency has not been indignation, alarm or voyeurism. It’s been ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. You don’t sell papers or get clicks with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it is, at the cost of untold revenue… in an era where competition for media and advertising revenue has never been fiercer. The only thing that explains that is a political agenda. And that agenda is authoritarianism and white supremacy.
jl
@J R in WV: Truly amazing. That clip is one, just one, of the things on my mind, when I commented above that Trumpsters are talking like mobsters out of Goodfellas on who is loyal, who needs to get whacked to keep things quiet, who will get hard time and is critical.
If they can talk like that, I don’t know why the news actors on TV can say “WTF? GTFOH! So, Trump is guilty as hell, you saying that or just saying?”
Jeffro
@Adam L Silverman: Yates’ and Comey’s firings should be the first and second articles of impeachment drafted.
debbie
@Adam L Silverman:
@Mike J:
All the better then. Hope Nunes is doing his own Trumpraging.
jl
@Timurid: ¯|_(ツ)_/¯ was better from corporate profit and PR perspective. Cult of balance.
I’ve wondered a few times whether Trumpsters in particular, and GOP base in general, are particularly prized viewers because those chumps will buy anything. Don’t want to piss them off. More affluent ones buy fancy new cars and RVs and vacays, while those lower down on the food chain good for credit repair, cheap used care loans, adult diapers, and pain meds, etc.
Sebastian
Giuliani is the conduit to rogue FBI elements. They want to torpedo the investigation from inside.
H/t Sarah Kendzior
JPL
The roll out of the memos didn’t work the way Nunes intended. Sad.
jl
@Sebastian:
” Giuliani is the conduit to rogue FBI elements. They want to torpedo the investigation from inside. ”
Also plausible. Wonder why Giuliani is saying goofy shit that puts him in the national spot light and warn off Mueller from doing anything that laying a trap to lure RG into incriminating himself, so he can file some more charges? Shouldn’t he take a lower profile if that is what is up? He should get a secret agent to do it.
Kind of pointless to try to figure out what crazy people think they are doing, unless you have a reliable and very specific diagnosis.
lollipopguild
@JPL: No. SAD!
gwangung
@Sebastian: That may be the intent, but how likely is that going to be in reality? The NY FBI were rogues with respect to Clinton, but after the way Trump is treating the FBI and CIA, I’m not so certain they’ll give G-boy all that much.
Vhh
@Dorothy A. Winsor (formerly Iowa Old Lady): Rudy made his bones aggressively prosecuting Wall Street guys for insider trading, fraud, etc. He nailed some really guilty ones (Boesky) and ruined the lives of some widely thought to be innocent. He was hated on the Street.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@gwangung: another possibility:
watching trump’s other old/new lawyer, this guy @Adam L Silverman: , on the O’Donnell show, and it’s a chestnut from just about every TV show about lawyers I”ve ever seen: The once brilliant lawyer who was mentor to one of the leads comes out of retirement, everyone is prepared to be dazzled by his gray eminence, and it turns out his marbles don’t roll so smooth no more
Sm*t Cl*de
@germy:
IKR? Goldberg looks like his lower jawbone has been removed and replaced by one that’s two sizes too small.
jl
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I can think of many reasonable standards by which Trump, as president, has been defrauded by almost everyone he’s appointed or chosen to work with.
So, I guess that theory is as good as any of the others.
Villago Delenda Est
Donald and Ghouliani need to share a tumbrel ride.
jonas
What happened to that medievalist-lawyer guy from Georgia? Hard to keep track these days…
Regine Touchon
Rudy is complicit.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Regine Touchon: I doubt Rudi’s books, personal or professional, could stand up to close scrutiny.
jonas
@Regine Touchon: Rudy’s not there to provide legal expertise. He’s been brought on to provide sound bites on Fox News about how Grand Inquisitor Torquemueller is persecuting the poor, innocent Trump, who wouldn’t
fuck, er, harm a fly.Another Scott
FTFNYT from 2016, on why Rudy wouldn’t be a good pick for Secretary of State(!):
Rudy’s up to his neck in the Russia stuff, and potentially shady [(cough) money laundering (cough)] real estate deals, also too.
Cheers,
Scott.
jonas
@gwangung: That’s my sense, too. The “rogue” elements in the NY office were more out to get HRC than they were providing cover for Trump at all costs. Like Comey, the vast majority of these guys are right-wing Republicans, but I think once it was clear that Trump was willing to throw the FBI and the entire rest of the IC under the bus to cover his ass in the Russia investigation and whatever other criminal chicanery he’s been up to for decades, I’m sure their enthusiasm for the Anti-Clinton cooled considerably. Giuliani is a self-serving ass who’s only on board so he can go on Hannity and bullshit for Trump (while billing for it), not to provide serious legal counsel.
Hugely
@jl: dont forget gold!, silver! and reverse mortgages
mainmata
@lollipopguild: Giuliani’s connection to this imbroglio is his relationship with the NY branch of the FBI and how he got them to force Comey’s hand into re-opening the email investigation by leaking news of Weiner’s cellphone to JasonintheHouse. Typical Giuliani rtfcking.
Aleta
“I’m doing it because
I hope we can negotiate an end to this for the good of the country and because I have high regard for the president and for Bob Mueller”Donald’s about to tip over the outhouse and the bosses are as nervous as the flies.”Amir Khalid
I missed a whole day of the intertubes bcause of a bad modem. Came back just a few minutes ago to the very sad news about dear Lily, and to this rather less sad item about Giuliani. Needless to say, there is some serious shared delusion/desperation going on in Trumpland if they think Rudy G is going to talk Mueller out of anything.