Next Dem nominee should (loudly) call for the creation of two new federal holidays, Juneteenth (Freedom Day) and election day (Democracy Day.)
— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 29, 2018
The Washington Post:
It took 13 days to organize Saturday’s demonstration against the Trump administration’s “zero-tolerance” immigration policy and the detention of children and families. It was the fastest that organizers could patch something together.
They guessed about 5,000 people would attend.
The National Park Service is now prepared for 10 times that — 50,000 people — to rally outside the White House and march on the Department of Justice, according to a permit issued this week. Demonstrators will demand an end to family detentions and the reunification for at least 2,500 children separated from their parents at the country’s southern border.
Several speakers, including Lin-Manuel Miranda, the creator of “Hamilton,” and actors America Ferrera and Diane Guerrero, will take the stage at Lafayette Square to kick off the protest, which begins at 11 a.m. People who have lived through the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps and Trump’s family separation policy are expected to speak.
About 750 similar protests have been planned throughout the country in every state, from big cities such as New York and Los Angeles to tiny ones such as Antler, N.D., population 28…
The rally will cap off a week of demonstrations in Washington that included the arrests of 575 people Thursday at the Hart Senate Office Building during a women-led protest and another outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement headquarters, in which dozens called for the agency’s dissolution…
Looking forward to reports / pics from the various rallies across the country!
??We're running this ad on CNN, MSNBC, Univision, and more starting today, demanding Trump immediately reunite families separated by his administration’s policies.
The clock is ticking. pic.twitter.com/vhqJ8Oc4V6
— ACLU (@ACLU) June 28, 2018
Lord knows I’m not a Dana Milbank fan, but he has a column in The Post that gives voice and coherence to some thoughts I’ve been mumbling to myself all week, to wit: the bastards can’t possibly get away with this shit indefinitely! An excerpt:
This morning, I have two agenda items: pancakes and protest. Gonna feed a group of teens some chocolate chip pancakes and bacon, then drive to the Keep Families Together rally. Will share pics later if possible.
Good Morning,Everyone ???
@rikyrah: Good morning rikyrah and happy protest day everyone. The one in South Bend is at 2 pm so working the market first. I expect the mayor will be there to speak, no idea who else would be. It’s already 77° out at 5:30 so it’ll be bad heat-wise. Not as bad as a tent city in Texas though.
Morning, morning crew. Gay pride parade today in Dublin. WOOT!
Yesterday evening in Kansas City a coalition of Muslim community and interfaith groups held a “Rally for Muslims, Immigrants, & Refugees” by the J.C. Nichols Fountain at Mill Creek Park near the entrance to the Plaza in Kansas City. About a hundred fifty people showed up. An hour into the demonstration the first of the anti-Muslim counter protesters showed up.
One of the Muslim allies was prepared:
Be the badass on the right
There was a proactive presence of Kansas City Police. A little while later another group of anti-Muslim counter-protestors showed up to join the first guy, this group not quite as ethnically diverse as those at the rally.
There have been pro-immigrant rallies and demonstrations all over the Kansas City metro area in the last week. I’ve covered and photographed four of them (one at the same location on Sunday with 1000 in attendance). And these counter-protesters show up at the one organized by the Muslim community wearing “no Immigrants, no Muslims, no Refugees” t-shirts? I can’t quite put my finger on why they chose this particular demonstration…
I’ll be driving to Columbia, Missouri in two hours to cover the morning Families Belong Together demonstration there. To the streets.
I see no front page poster has as yet noted that Harlan Ellison died a few days ago.
Election day being a federal holiday would be good. Let nobody be unable to vote because they have to work.
That was a real stem-winder. There must be something in the air if “even Dana Milbank” is getting outraged.
That and Michelle Goldberg’s “We Have a Crisis of Democracy, Not Manners” were the two best pieces I read this week.
@Steeplejack (phone): Agreed — that Goldberg piece is terrific. I split my free NYT views between her and Krugman.
@Chris Johnson: It will take more than making Election Day a federal holiday when you consider how many stores and restaurants are open on every other holiday. It seems to me that Christmas is the only holiday left that most everything is closed.
Then there are places like hospitals and nursing homes that never close.
I’m not saying don’t make Election Day a holiday, just that it will take more than that.
That’s hilarious. Forwarded to various friends.
@Ohio Mom: That’s a good point, and it underscores the importance of early voting and vote by mail options. Our shitty reptilian governor here in FL has gutted early voting because suppressing the votes of working people benefits his party.
Alain the site fixer
@Cermet: Anne Laurie is our sci-fi maven and she has had some vacation. I can’t say much about him except he wrote some good stuff and some great tv.
If my laptop stops misbehaving I’ll have more photos up in an hour and a half…
I’m moving slow and creaky this morning. Somehow I managed to tweak my back this week, and I’m still in that twilight zone of finding out what movements hurt and which are safe. Plus it’s irritating because it makes me feel like a quintessential old guy. “Oh, Mr. Steep, he’s got the lumbago.” The only thing worse would be gout, possibly.
. . . Jeez, I just looked up lumbago, and that sort of is what I have: “pain in the muscles and joints of the lower back.” Christ.
July is going to come in hotter than hell here in NoVA. Supposed to hit 96° today, then 99° tomorrow and Monday. And that’s a wretchedly humid heat, of course. Hope it isn’t too bad downtown for the march today. The forecast is for 98° today. It’s already 77° and 93% humidity in town.
@Alain the site fixer: There was an interesting discussion of Ellison on John Scalzi’s blog. It talked about the work people enjoyed, but also about how he grabbed Connie Willis’s breast on stage at the Hugo Awards. She was not a willing participant. So there was talk about whether you can separate the artist from the art.
I will see you all this afternoon in Lakeland FL
They all hurt, none are safe. What is ok now will be horrendous in 5 mins when you move from a different position. Go to a Doc-onthe-Block and get some muscle relaxants, you’ll be glad you did.
If however you tweaked your sciatic nerve…. You’re fucked.
Mai naem mobile
I usually watch a few minutes of Fox and Friends Weekend so I can get mad at Abby Huntsan and the other idiot whose name escapes me but was on the list to be VA head. Anyhow, I couldn’t handle it today so I switched to CSPAN and caught the last few minutes of Chief Justice John Roberts who was talking about his summmer book reading list and how judges must rest their brains. I wanted to reach through the teevee and shake him. It’s just soooooo hard to fuck with peoples lives that you have to let your brain rest.
No, I’ve had a couple of bouts of sciatica, and this ain’t that. Thank God!
The Thin Black Duke
@Dorothy Winsor: Problem is, the uninvited assault on Connie Willis wasn’t an isolated incident. Apparently, Ellison had an ugly history of being sexually abusive towards women at SF conventions and unfortunately this casts a big shadow over his legacy that won’t go away. As a huge science fiction nerd back in the day, Harlan Ellison was my first fanboy crush, so it’s incredibly depressing to learn that a writer who I idolized was a cruel and misogynistic asshole.
@Steeplejack: Good. The last time my back went out I bent over to pick up a screw. I’d been hanging 100# sheets of 5/8 firecode all day long but it was the screw that did it. Come to think of it, it was tightening a screw that tore the rotator cuff in my right shoulder. Maybe I should just stay away from screws.
I have no idea what brought this on. Haven’t been picking up or tightening any screws. Seems like my back was a little stiff when I got up one morning, and then it got worse instead of better as the day went on.
And you’re right: the “bad” movements vary over time, so there’s no consistency. I’m just trying to take it easy and keep a low profile.
https://t.co/6efnabqDEL Old people protest Ice.
That happens to me too. Fortunately for me, in those cases it only lasts a couple days. Hopefully the same will be true for you.
While I like that tweet up top, calling for those holidays will be as popular as advocating for tax increases. We shouldn’t give the GOP another issue to win on. Dems will lose the race before they begin.
Delete your cookies and you can restart the free views.
A local PBS station was running “pledgertainment” based on the 50th anniversary of Sgt. Pepper. Without even knowing who, I tuned in and got Howard Goodall, geeking out about The Beatles in that educated-but-relatable-to-popsters manner he commands.Boffo stuff, like everything of his I’ve seen..
And now he has another fan, in my ex-hippie chick wife.
You should first see your doc and make sure there isn’t some specific issue that can be treated, and then if it’s age-related (yeah, I know), become close friends with an ice pack, often and regularly. I’ve had back issues since 1991, and ice gets me through every time while my body yet again recovers from my stupidity.
KC Rally for Muslims, Immigrants, & Refugees – Kansas City – June 29, 2018
Off to Columbia, Missouri to cover the 10:00 a.m. Families Belong Together demonstration
Huh? Who doesn’t like getting a day off?
I really really have a problem with this sentiment. It implies surrender without even putting up a fight.
No one in the known universe has an appetite large enough to consume that guy’s asshole.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
Boy that ad, sure is funny how fast the GOP can go from Federal Jackbooted thugs must be resisted, to approval of this kind of stuff and nobody seems to notice the complete, utter cognitive dissonance.
Not at all. It acknowledges the rich history of Dems handing yet another win to the GOP on a silver platter.
Thanks for the pictures and the post
Thanks, but I don’t think I’m at the “see a doc” point yet. Maybe if it continues into next week.
Like I said. And you still haven’t articulated why it would be a losing issue.
@Steeplejack: i’m going through the exact same thing ATM and it’s been a periodic problem for over 30 years. Always tbe same thing you and Ozark described. A day of work, then One. Liffle. Thing. Been to chiropracters and PT and what they do works great. Once, then the next time it doesnt. This time I think I’ll start the core exercises again and stick with them. Getting this over and over really sucks.
So did this story make it here yesterday?
The best security. The best.
Think back to the ERA and MLK days. Think of the resistance to both and remember both were back in the days before it was okay for a person to voice their misogynist racist beliefs. Now think how this will feed into the GOP’s ability to gin up fear and hatred.
Like I said, I am fine with the holidays, but please wait to win before advocating for them.
Darrin Ziliak (formerly glocksman)
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Her’s one for you, I had a pinched nerve in my neck, the pain worked it’s way down my right arm. One night after work I got in my car in the parking garage at work at around 7. Started the car and my right arm went completely numb, couldn’t move it. I drove home in Boston traffic, driving a stick shift car, steering with my knee while I reached across and shifted with my left..
Better to get rid of Election Day. Vote by mail for a couple of election weeks.
I’ll be attending the rally in Salem, OR at 11:00. Playing in the river with my ever more precious grandchildren this afternoon. A pleasant high of 80 in our local forecast.
My trail volunteering yesterday ended with me bending a fender on some logs squeezing past a washed out spot on a Forest Service road. Made it by on the way in. Dropped the passenger side off the edge on the way out and slid a couple feet down into the logs. At least I was able to drive it out. Oh well I’ll make my first insurance claim since 1982.
@The Thin Black Duke: Met him a few times and heard him speak. Years ago. He was,in limbo, selling his books from the back of his car, probably on his third or fourth Tall British Wife. He was a great contrarian who had few allies and relished his bitterness. I felt sorry for him. He must have been 55 at most, and his best days seemed behind him, the Dangerous Visions breakthroughs.
He did have an unusual love for himself…
i Love that!!
I have a head splitting headache this morning. Hoping coffee and Advil will kick in shortly.
Alain the site fixer
Anyone else having site issues this morning? I can barely access the back end much less the front! I’m trying to solve this but we’re in that unenviable place where the hosting company says “it’s your site’s content loading slowly” whereas other evidence points elsewhere.
Agree that if it’s a holiday then retail and restaurant workers will end up having to work while professionals will get the day off. Not exactly the result we want.
@Alain the site fixer: It seems fine to me. The usual problem of it not remembering my nym, but it’s loading fine.
@Michael Bersin: That is an awesome picture. It should totally go viral if it hasn’t already.
@MomSense: Ugh. I hate waking up with a headache. I find deep breathing can help sometimes too. Good luck with the coffee and advil.
@Alain the site fixer: It remembers me this morning for the first time in a while. Seems to load OK. I’m on a Chromebook.
@Betty Cracker: Don’t forget Charles Blow (assuming he’s still at NYT)
@Alain the site fixer:
It still doesn’t remember my nym once I’ve left the site and come back. Chrome on laptop.
@Alain the site fixer:
And for some reason the autofill now has my husband’s real name instead of my nym.
Yes, he is, and still blazing.
@Alain the site fixer:
I had major internet issues all day yesterday and it affected everything. Then we had a thunderstorm that knocked out power and cable/internet and nothing is working right still.
P.S. I was not able to delete a post yesterday (even tho’ I attempted to within the alotted time).
@Alain the site fixer: The only issue I have is the dissappearing nym and email address. Seems to hang around as long as I keep a thread open and comment periodically. The moment I close the tab, poof!
Still, only a small annoyance in comparison to when the site wouldn’t open at all (shudders at the memory).
Once again, many thanks for all your hard work and godspeed!
@OzarkHillbilly: Every time! Every time I’ve hurt my lower back it’s been the bending over to grab something light. I try to remember to bend my knees a little but sometimes one is in a hurry and SNAP!
So what? They are going to do that anyway.
You still haven’t articulated why it would be a losing issue. If you can’t, just say as much. I won’t find that any more persuadable than, “We have lost on other issues in the past” but I’ll let it drop.
What am I saying, I have to get busy so I’m letting it drop anyway. ;-) Have a good day.
O. Felix Culpa
Pride this morning and Reunite Families vigil this evening in Santa Fe. We’re marching, registering voters, and handing out “Commit to Vote” cards. A full day of celebration, protest, and positive action.
The site still doesn’t remember me. Sad.
@Alain the site fixer: Just the same ones every one’s been complaining about.
Can I ask a question for the techies? When/how will we know when the absence of net neutrality has borked our internet experience? What can we expect?
Cripes. I was just out and it’s already 80 and extremely humid. Locally, we’re supposed to rally and then march today. I think I’ll go to the rally and then see how I feel. I have a water bottle chilling in the freezer.
@Ohio Mom: just checking. Nym and email didn’t stick for me. iPhone and whatever upgrade I just got. iOS 11.4 maybe?
@frosty: Oops, it works if I click the “remember” button. Now I have to remember to remember.
Flexibility is just as important as fitness. While your back is healthy, try to learn some appropriate stretching to increase your flexibility. Of course, strong abdominal muscles are really important for protecting your back.
That’s exactly what I did do. Enjoy your day.
Nym and email are gone again after opening a different post.
I’m on my way to the event in the Town of the Cow, although I’ll have to stop for a couple of bottles of cold water first. I can’t remember whether Adam mentioned this in his posts about how to handle getting arrested, but if you’re going to one of these marches and you have a passport, take it with you. I don’t put it past ICE goons to start arresting protesters, claiming they’re illegal immigrants. Oh, and take sunscreen as well.
@Kelly: This is the place where no one remembers your nym.
At least I can refresh the comments now, and that was not possible a few days ago.
@MomSense: Your internet provider can slow down time it takes to load on certain sites.
My concern is that I only use AT&T for internet, they could try to encourage you to add cable by slowing down my web. I’m not sure if that will happen though.
Hope you feel better.
@MomSense: I have been wondering that myself. Internet connection at home has been jerky at times. Never, ever an issue before.
Good luck to those heading to marches today. Take water! Are we supposed to dress in white? (Think that was suggestion for DC.)
Richmond VA is protesting on state capitol grounds (the bell tower) at noon. Already extremely sunny and hot. Think I might take a pink umbrella, for shade while walking to and from.
I didn’t realize until today there is someone doing a fake Rod Rosenstein twitter account. Reading the tweets you would almost believe it is him. He is at @RodRosenstien (notice the misspelling of the last name). Most people think he is the real thing from the comments.
Last time around I was doing Stuart McGill’s Big Three back/core exercises, which matched some that my PT gave me; they’re also yoga poses for the back. IANAD so get some pro advice on flexibility and core exercises. But I think Chris is right that it’s the only hope for improvement long term.
Damn, why do all my doc visits lately end with “eat less and exercise”?
Yesterday I was getting a 509 bandwidth limited error code. I’ve never gotten one before and yesterday I got them on multiple sites. WTF is that about?
@debbie: Troll,much, or the “Democratic Cringe”. I’ve noticed, especially on Twitter, that a lot of trolls are starting to threaten some sort of massive backlash to our assertiveness. It’s been over a year and a half since the first marches, folks. If there is a growing backlash, there’s been no sign of it whatsoever.
To me, it’s a sign of fear. We are reaching millions-not everyone can march or wants to. But people largely agree with us on many issues.
@Ohio Mom: I think it’s a given that no one thing will solve all voting problems, but it would be a tremendous help. One great thing about pushing ways to make it easier for citizens to vote is that rwnjs can’t say we’re trying to make it harder for them to vote.
@MomSense: Very aware. It’s in part why, in the last year, I’ve shed 30 pounds of fat, do my daily despised exercises and yesterday walked 6km in 60 minutes. Back is still touchy from 50 years of hard labour.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
It is super hot and humid here in DC today. Plan accordingly with plenty of water, a broad brimmed hat and sunscreen if going to the protest. I absentmindedly planned a BBQ dinner party for today, so will not be going, but if anyone has a suggestion for the best and most effective place to donate to I will “write a check” – a generous one for me (I don’t have oligarch type money) – to support the cause.
@CarolDuhart2: The Gallup poll on immigration is really striking. Not just that most people “think immigration is a good thing”, which could mean all sorts of bland things consistent with Trumpism, but that the numbers are increasing rapidly and that significant numbers of people are calling for increased immigration (which was a position with almost no support at, really, any time before the present).
The change is mostly among Democrats, but they don’t see a huge counterreaction among Republicans. This is also all consistent with earlier Pew polls I’ve seen.
With the administration going Steve King nuts it’s worth remembering that this is really not some popular anti-immigrant groundswell; it’s that the minority who think this way managed to seize power.
Well, to be fair, your husband’s name isn’t exactly a secret. How is Gogol doing these days, by the way?
“But this is a Republic, not a democracy!”
Not quite sure why you’re calling me a troll. I am just as supportive of issues and causes as you or anyone else here. I just want to get into the fucking office so we can implement them.
@germy: That had to be said….
Here in Vienna, the school year is over. Spawn #2 graduated from primary school, Now we are all on the road on the way to my MIL in the countryside where the kids will stay the next two weeks.
Alain, the nym and email stick if I stay on one post and just comment on that. If I go to another thread or website, they are gone. I’m on iPhone 8 with whatever iOS update was the latest.
@OzarkHillbilly: Fearing the GOP’s ability to gin up fear and hatred is the losing proposition. They could incite their base over ice cream served in a golden bowl with a silver spoon.
So I am very sorry to be missing the protests, particularly the Boston event. But I am sitting on a beautiful lawn in Edinburgh trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to leave it all behind for a week. It usually takes me a few days for calm to kick in….
To all those dealing with back pain. I sympathize.
I delt with lower/middle back pain for years. Accupuncture, Chiropractic and stretching work very well. In fact, I haven’t had a real issue with it for several years, now.
However, my body decided to explore a new area of pain by deciding that , in my 66th year, a sever case of Shingles would be a good thing. The pain associated with this viral infection is the strangest I have ever experienced. Constant fatigue coupled with burning, needle like, itching, localized migrane-like pain and you have one tired, beat-up, old dude. Another delightful aspect of this viral infection is that, according to the Doctors, it can 4-6 weeks or longer to run its course. Add to this the fact that it has settled on the left side of my face and left me looking like a bad 1950s Sci-Fi creature make up job.
My advice to all: Get the Shingles Vaccine and keep doing your exercises for your back pain. Take any and all measures to keep your body strong.
Thanks for letting me rant, bit.
@MomSense: If you’re not using an Ad Blocker already, you will likely want to start. The ads Cole is running these days can use a lot of bandwidth so you don’t want to squander yours with annoying ads.
@debbie: it seems to me Rs are going to hate anything positive we want todo. Furthermore, it seems us fighting back in any way, or not fighting back, or ignoring them and doing our own thing – all of those things are said to rile up Rs against us. To keep giving up on saying what we want to do because of forecasted backlash is futile.
We must stop worrying about the reactions to saying what we want. Our opponents will protest ANYTHING, so we only can ignore those threats, not internalize them and inhibit ourselves.
Sad news this morning, as I found my missing cat. I smelled whiffs of death in the breeze yesterday and this morning and tracked it down to my kitty on the side of the house. Some fur torn off, and blood around her stomach. Either she lost a fight to a feral or a stray dog/coyote got her. I’m just shocked really, since she was less that 10 feet from the fence.
@Immanentize: Glad to hear that you and Immp are abroad. Time away is good.
I know you will keep us posted on what folks on that side of the pond are saying, about their situations and ours.
I’m so sorry, Keith, that is horrible!
@CarolDuhart2: Please do not call debbie a troll. That is wrong, and an apology is in order.
I got called a honky concern troll a few days back. When shit like that happens, you wonder how much you want to be among people with whom you are allowed 3% of nonconformity.
You guys, we are a very closed loop here. Less so than rightwing sites (or so I am told). But there are ranges of opinion, and a lot of educating (with real, confirmable information) to be done.
Be happy that you are among people who share large sets of concern, and empathy.
@Keith P: So sorry about your kitty
So sorry, Keith. Horrible way to find your fur baby.
@Keith P: My sympathies. Wonder if your cat was trying to make it home. Sad story.
I find myself thinking this…..but then I wonder if that is just a result of the very human desire for events to conform to a tidy narrative arc, for good to triumph over evil.
Like…….sometimes stuff just happens and then more stuff just happens, and maybe it is my fallacious and wishful thinking that the next thing that happens will be good.
@debbie: My guess is that you are warning about the danger of overreach? Because I see that, too.
That said, it is exhilarating to protest, and a healthy thing to do, when your “representatives” aren’t representing you, and an illegitimate president under criminal investigation is making Supreme Court picks.
Find our common ground, and protest away. We have the numbers, and it’s unnerving the right.
Every protest has folks circulating through, with voter registration and voter ID info.
@Elizabelle: She was already at the house…she liked to move from the front driveway to the backyard through a hole in the fence, and she looked to be on her way to the backyard. There are coyotes in the neighborhood, but as scared as she is of dogs, I don’t think she’d get killed by one that close to the fence. This was literally her home base…she’d spend whole days outside moving between the front and backyards, but never went beyond the house behind me.
I tend to think she got into a fight with the super-beat-up feral who hangs around and lost badly. But either way, she deserved better.
Sister Golden Bear
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: We have always been at war with Eastasia.
I’ve used this video to stretch my lower back when I’ve tweaked it. Worst case is it makes your back more painful. Use at your own risk, not a doctor but stayed at Holiday Inn, etc.
Looks like my name and email are being saved. Winning!
Sister Golden Bear
@Apocalipstick: Because those people are getting two scoops. Right?
One of the things I like about vote by mail and the resulting election weeks is it weakens any last minute ratfucking. Last minute ratfucking depends in part on not leaving enough time for the truth to come out. Every early vote is beyond reach.
@Betty Cracker: Go you! Go Anne! Go everyone!
Feeding small person, then gonna send money to ACLU & RAICES Texas.
My little one’s history is complicated and we haven’t been sharing the news of this atrocity out loud. But I have been burning up the phone lines , and I will send some money. And pray that the better version of Milbank’s prediction comes true!
@Keith P: I am so sorry. Only thing to say, and it is a platitude, is that she had a really good life with you. And that, maybe in time, her departure makes room for another kit who needs a home.
Thinking of you, though. A loss like that is a shock, and takes a lot of time to get through.
Gotta scoot. Check in with you all later.
@Jim Parente: I read this to my wife and we said simultaneously: “I’ve got to get the vaccine.”
I worked on a +$100M project in which the contractor did a fabulous job managing safety. No injuries requiring more than first aid. Until, three weeks from the end of construction, the superintendent shredded one of the tendons in his arm……when he swung open the gate to the jobsite in the morning.
Workman’s comp, baby.
@The Thin Black Duke:
It gets even more complicated when you find out that he was a mentor and good friend to Octavia Butler, especially early in her career. Very complicated guy even in his misogynist assholery.
He’s been a-moldering in the grave since 1852 (although some think he was buried alive).
@frosty: Absolutely, my aunt landed in the hospital with shingles
ETA> I know people as young as forty who have gotten shingles
@Elizabelle: Interesting you say that, because I’m already thinking about picking up a third kitten from the house I got my current two. There was one there that I would have taken if she didn’t have a tail, but it barely lost out to the manx in the cuteness contest. (I can’t get enough of that manx…she is ADORABLE)
But I really need to bury my dead cat before I start setting a place for her replacement. I’ve got the hole dug (I’m anemic and nearly dehydrated, so it took a while) so now I have to get up the nerve (and stomach) to gather her remains…she’s been outside in the summer heat since Thursday.
Won’t be able to make the march today even if I weren’t feeling ambivalent about it, as I’m not feeling at all well.
I hope for large turnouts in red states and red cities as well as blue.
I hope the multitudes that turn out to march also turn out to vote.
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It’s true they won’t be able to get away with it forever, if only for the fact that nothing lasts indefinitely. There is almost always a backlash and it is true they are in reality a minority. That doesn’t mean things won’t get worse before they get better.
“Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”
I want to believe this. It’s hard to make myself believe it. There’s always raw, brute force, which they are increasingly willing to deploy. They don’t have the people on their side, but they have enough of the people to exert force.
As I saw someone say on Twitter the other day, the National Party didn’t have a majority, even a majority of whites, in South Africa when they instituted apartheid; the bien-pensant consensus was segregation-lite (or lighter at least), and that racial equality and true democracy were going to come in due time through some inevitable process of liberalization, but the people who managed to eke out plurality control had other ideas, and they had force. Eventually they got a majority of the people who could really vote. And it all fell down eventually, but it took about half a century.
I think what we do have on our side is that we not only have the majority but have worked up a pretty good head of outrage. What fraction will keep standing when they go to the straight-up iron-fist tactics, though–not just against immigrants but against dissidents in general? If you’re a privileged person who can stay safe and comfortable by keeping quiet, and they’ve made it clear by violent example that there will be consequences if you don’t, that’s tempting.
Another thing we have on our side is that unlike a lot of historical examples, the US is heavily federated, much day-to-day law is a state matter, and a number of state governments are not (fully) playing along. But there’s a question of how long they’ll hold up too. Also, sucks to be in the red states–there’s no helping them.
@eclare: My daughter had shingles a couple of years ago–she’s a lot younger than 40, as was I when I had a bout with them. I have had the vaccine.
ETA: My shingles led to her developing what she called “chicken fox” which is no doubt why she had shingles later.
RedDirtGirl and I are sweating our butts off here in nyc. Damn it’s hot out
@Jim Parente: My sympathy on the shingles. My wife was hit by shingles at 55. You can’t get the vaccine until 60. Good news the is a new vaccine our doc says can be effective at stopping recurrences. She’s had 2~3 recurreces a year. New vaccine will be available in 6~12 months.
RE: This morning, I have two agenda items: pancakes and protest.
I like that!
Coming late to the posts this morning. Everyone have a nice day.
A Ghost To Most
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Rage, rage against the lying of the right.
Shingles — I had shingles at 39. OUCH! It was on my right side along my ribs — not on my face. I know Raven has said he had a bought of face shingles…. It felt like I got kicked by a horse.
There was an old shingles vaccine. I got that one. There is now a new improved vaccine. My Doctor told me that it doesn’t matter if you had shingles or had the earlier vaccine, generally you should all get the new one if you ever had chicken pox (which is what shingles is the child of). Stress is the midwife of shingles. I got shingles when three clients were executed in seven months and three others had serious but eventually not fatal execution dates. And, oh yes, Julie and I had decided to get married…. These are tremendously stressful times and none of us need more pain.
Couple of things which recently caught the eye –
1) What’s in the attic? In this case, a rare glimpse of FDR.
2) Bagged bunny brouhaha.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
Those examples didn’t have as long of a democratic tradition as we do either.
@Kelly: you can certainly get the vaccine before 60. I got it for free when I was 50.
@Matt McIrvin: I draw much comfort from the Blue state Red state divide. Not just that I’m personally safe here in blue Oregon but that at least some blue states will remain havens for the forces of justice. The fight will last our lifetimes because at least some of the red states will remain fortresses of evil.
@Immanentize: Damn, our doc at the time wouldn’t go for it.
Was either 28 or 29 when shingles decided to pay a protracted visit.
@NotMax: thanks! The view of FDR is great! Lots of bonus Eleanor too.
@Alain the site fixer:
I couldn’t get to the site at all this morning (11AM in NOVA), but came back a little before noon, and everything seems to be fine.
@Kelly: it may just be where we are? Harvard/Pilgrim healthcare pushes it hard in the Boston area because, I suspect, anti-viral medicine is expensive!
It works in other countries because “national holiday” really means that (or at least close to it) in most other countries. Here, it’s just not like that.
I’m going to give a practical answer. All of the big ISPs have promised they won’t do anything that would have violated the old rules. I figure those promises are good until the appeals of the FCC decision are done. After that, they will need to provide notice that they’ve changed their policies, so look for something that says “our terms have changed.”
@CaseyL: It’s Phoenix in June. There is no way I’m protesting.
Hell, I am trying to work up courage to go get the mail.
I keep waiting for someone to call me a troll. A couple of people have come close at LGM, but no luck so far.
@Immanentize: I dunno, until now I thought the singles shot at 60 rule was universal.
Well I’m gathering up my No Trump Baby Jails sign, a shiny mylar emergency blanket I’ll wear like a cape and my day pack with the stuff Silverman recommended. Heading into Salem. I want to park well away from the State Capitol building.
@randy khan: Not the result we want, but if “professionals” had the day off, at least that would help even out crowds at the voting booth. When I lived in a state without early voting, it was a two or three hour ordeal.
About 12 years ago, I had this weird rash and the ER doctor decided I had either shingles or impetigo, so gave me the treatments for both. (Fun fact: The treatment for shingles is the same drug they give people for herpes because the two viruses are closely related.) When I got to my primary care doctor, he said it couldn’t be shingles because I wasn’t in nearly enough pain.
A Ghost To Most
Hewitt announced this morning this was his final show on MSNBC. He’ll remain with the network as a contributor. What he actually contributes, aside from more bullshit is an open question.
Queue tiny violins for Fugh Fuckwit.
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Depends on what counts as a “democratic tradition”, since we’re really talking about racism and discrimination here– arguably the US wasn’t even close to being a real democracy until 1965, and is moving away from that now.
@Kelly: from the CDC, May this year:
I’m just back from the rally in Wilmington, DE (we’re here for a wedding). Not a bad turnout for a city of 70,000, probably several hundred, but definitely at least a couple hundred. The crowd was spirited, and the last thing the speakers said was to make sure we all were registered to vote.
I should add that there actually were two different events in Wilmington, so total turnout probably was significantly higher.
@Kelly: Federal agents can still come in and put up highway checkpoints, snatch people out of courthouses, etc. here in mostly-blue New England, and they’re doing it with gusto. But their power does have limits.
I wrote about that yesterday, staying away from screws that is. It was a typo but still the sentiment was there.
Already knew that Mom feels about Dolt 45 as we do here. Discovered yesterday (she brought it up) that she despises Pence even more.
I just left DC rally — March starts in an hour and it’s brutally hot. Lafayette Square is totally full and there are other stations with jumbo tvs set up. Others are leaving too but yet others are arriving. Saw or heard LMM (who sang) and other speakers. It was good.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
For now. That can be reversed. Not today. Not tomorrow. But it will be. Because they’re are a minority and we are. And we’re pissed off finally. Stop fretting. It’s getting tiring from you. You can’t focus so much on worse case scenarios.
Best sign: When they came for the immigrants I did something.
? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?
@? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
Because they’re a minority and we aren’t.
@Barbara: That is good, thanks for the report. Brutally hot and sunny here in Memphis, I wish I could have gone but cannot take the heat and sun.
@Ruckus: Hahaha, I saw that yesterday
A Ghost To Most
DC streets on the cusp of July, hot, hazy, and humid.
I admire your resolve. Stay hydrated.
I’m back from our local demonstration outside Rod Blum’s office. It’s brutally hot, and there were maybe 100-150 people there. There were speeches that I could not hear by people I could not see because I am short. But there was lots of good fellowship. Cars honked support and drivers shouted things like thank you for being out here. And I got three compliments on my Nevertheless She Persisted t-shirt.
Now I’m going to throw everything I’m wearing in the laundry and take my second shower of the day.
Holy moly it was hot.
Enjoying an iced latte in downtown Cincinnati after what had to be the shortest protest rally ever. Lasted one hour. The speaker who moved me the most was a Dreamer. No music and not too many amusing signs, they tended toward terse and angry. As befitting the occasion.
There were lots of tables from local progressive organizations, many working to help immigrants which I hadn’t known about. It’s encouraging to see how much goes on unheralded in this corner of Ohio.
I accomplished my personal goal, which was to pick up voter registration forms for the three people in my circles I’ve targeted.
Well that’s bizarre. Don’t think it’s something the writers dreamed up, it must be based on some evidence of it being prescribed at the time, ludicrous as it sounds.
Program running in background about a 19th century doctor. A colleague recommended, when told the main doctor thought his wife had “a touch of cholera,” rubbing opium into her navel.
A Ghost To Most
John Lewis, today
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: Very late to the thread, but if anyone is looking for another place to donate, my friend’s daughter is working here this year – https://annunciationhouse.org/ It was started by Catholics in El Paso and receives families and send them on their way within the US. They often need money for basics and are happy to accept shipments of things like diapers, travel size toiletries, etc.
My friend’s daughter majored in Border Studies, I think it was. She spent the previous two years volunteering with migrant legal studies in Colorado. She’s one of the good ones.
Thank you. Glad I missed your being called one. Totally bogus. It’s not overreach so much as it is not considering consequences.
I don’t disagree that Repubs will use anything and everything against Dems, but battles have to be chosen carefully in order for us to get into the door. Maybe it’s me, but I rank new holidays lower than immigration, racism, and the predatory behavior that’s taken over everything in this country.
I’m not afraid; I’m angry. Believe me.
Saw one of the best all-time signs at the protest march today in Raleigh, which drew at least 10K -15k
“I shouldn’t have to be here”
What would making Election Day an official holiday result in? Human nature being what it is, one thing would be people skipping out on work on Monday to take a four day weekend away and not being present to vote at all.
Well I was late to the little rally in Haverhill, and it was down to <10 people with picket signs, but they said that at the height of it it had been about 100-120 people lined up along the street, only maybe 2 or 3 counter-protesters. Pretty good showing for the size of the town and the place's generally lukewarm politics.
@Alain the site fixer
Kind of throws the notion of Recent Comments being the culprit into a cocked hat, doesn’t it?
Sister Golden Bear
Reposting from a dead thread the other night, since it’s apropos today:
“We are the American majority and we will nevertheless surrender”
I’ll watch it later, but anyone wearing a Crossfit t-shirt makes me a little nervous about a bad back.
I recommend Stuart McGill’s exercises (he’s on youtube and he has a couple books). I can’t do one of his exercises thanks to osteoporosis, but the others have made a real difference. Until I sneezed and coughed my back out this pollen season, my back felt the best it had in more than 25 years.
I also recommend the book “Crooked.” The first half is about the dumb choices and consequences of extreme solutions like surgery, etc.; the second half is about how to get your back back. The author tries all of them with varying success. It’s where I found out about Stuart McGill. The author recommends regular physical therapy, which I can’t afford, but I find avoiding pain is what motivates me to keep doing the exercises.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Getting the kiddos ready to leave the house – going to a movie first, and then headed to our local Families rally this afternoon.
Thanks for the updates from rallies around the country, and all the inspirational words. It’s a scary time, but we have the numbers. We CAN restore our “Country of Immigrants” identity and extend a welcoming hand to the world once again. But it won’t be quick or easy.
@NotMax: Cholera causes severe dehydration. Opiates (including opium itself of course) slow the digestive system—this is why those addictive pain killers result in chronic constipation. Hence opium would reduce the amount of dehydration. Not the best solution, but actually helpful.
Throwing your back out with a sneeze? Been there, done that. No fun at all and makes one feel a bit sheepish that it came from such a mundane happenstance.
it is discouraging to know that just about half the population thinks that the orange asshole is doing a good job.
Topical application would seem to be a less efficacious regimen.
Richmond was great. Several hundred people. Plethora of excellent signs. Kids. Dogs. Shade — the Bell Tower area is in shade at that hour. Tim Kaine and future congresswoman Abigail Spanberger attended, but am not sure whether they spoke or not. Missed the beginning. Might have left speaking to the young people who organized the protest.
Do I send photos to Adam, or Betty, or to whom??
James E Powell
Making it easier for more people to vote isn’t that hard of an argument to make. It should be repeated endlessly.
@NotMax – @Chris T.
Suppose ought to also mention that the next recommendation after the opium treatment was to bleed her.
Steve in the ATL
@Cermet: at this point it’s been brought up in almost every thread so a front page post is superfluous
@A Ghost To Most: Hewitt will probably get signed on to a reboot of “V” where he can eat large rodents on the reg.
@Elizabelle: Mine is in a couple of hours. I don’t want to go too early because of the heat.
RE: Federal holiday for election day. I think it would be better to require employers to give employees 2 hours out of their day to go and vote. If for no other reason than to hear employers scream.
@Steve in the ATL: Did Harlan Ellison die or something?
@Keith P: So sorry to hear about your kitty. Sending mojo your way.
And keep polls open until at least 9 p.m. Screw worrying about rushing results in time for the late night newscasts.
@japa21: Expand election day to three days: Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
and now i get a certificate warning every time I load this page. Unverifiable certificate warning.
videosculturalconvergencemedia is the culprit.
@NotMax: Definitely. No need to rush results.
@germy: Only problem with that is if some people (like Republicans) could have access to interim totals, they not only could, but definitely would screw around with them if it looked bad.
I can’t attend any of the marches today, so I reduced my cable service and am donating the monthly balance to the ACLU.
The first story I read from Ellison was “I have No Mouth And I Must Scream.” Its one of my most cherished nightmares.
If there’s a version for your device, install Privacy Badger and block both that and ora.tv.
@NotMax: What’s the name of the program?
@Ohio Mom: I was very impressed with the focus of the rally, which was educating us on current immigration processes and the groups who support immigrants. I was also heartened by the fact that most of the speakers and people manning the organizations’ booths were young. I learned a lot. Did you know Blue Ash had an ICE black site? I also learned that Hamilton County sheriff is turning immigrants jailed for traffic violations over to ICE, which he is not required by law to do. I’m calling Denise Driehaus, Todd Portune and the Republican Weasel Commish (Monzel?) on Monday to protest this. Wacko Sheriff Jones in Butler County gets money for immigrants he arrests.
@Kelly: That’s interesting because I tend to think the opposite might be true: that people could vote weeks early and then find out something at the last minute that makes them regret their choice.
Last time, it was Comey of course who threw a wrench in the works but next time it could go the other way.
One of the unsolvable problems is that block of under-informed undecideds who are easily swayed by the most trivial nonsense. Who are they?
I don’t know what to think about making Elections Day a holiday, going completely to voting by mail, etc. There are arguments on both sides of these proposals that make sense to me.
Obviously we need to enact a new, stronger VRA, and to make our machinery unhackable with a (literal) paper trail but beyond that, I would like to hear from political scientists who had studied various voting systems around the world for their findings on what encourages voting and a stronger democracy. I’d like some data to help me decide.
@Matt McIrvin: It is possible that what you fear will come to pass. We have two choices, work and fight so that it doesn’t or let the other side win by default. They may still win but at least I will have the satisfaction that I did everything I could to stop their vile agenda.
ETA: At this point their victory is not a certainty.
The Life and Crimes of William Palmer. 2-part British show based on true events.
Oopsie. Sloppy coding. Fix.
The Life and Crimes of William Palmer. 2-part British show based on true events.
There’s a lot of time covered by “indefinitely” – it only took Pol Pot three years to kill a full quarter of Cambodia’s population, and he didn’t have access to modern communications and logistics.
@Kathleen: Wanted to go, even sort of planned to go. But between heart issues and asthma, decided not to. Sounds like the rally was not only inspirational, but informative. I should have known we have some immigration weasels around here,
@denise: sorry about the troll inference. Your nym wasn’t familiar to me, and after seeing a lot of bots on twitter, my hackles are now up.
@NotMax: Thanks. I’m always on the lookout for historical dramas.
I’ve returned from the protest / march in Green Bay, WI. Roughly 500 – 600 participants spanning all ages, organized very well, and (this was a pleasant surprise) a helpful police presence.
@CarolDuhart2: There is a lot of ignorance on this issue because most American citizens have had no reason to deal with the immigration bureaucracies. So as an issue it is easy to demagogue.
Not one sneeze. An average of 10 per day since pollen season started (late March?).
Employers used to let people off early to vote, up through the mid 1990s in NYC at least.
@Kathleen: Thank you got these details — I was having trouble hearing some of the speakers (I had particularly talkative group of people standing near me).
I heard the part about the Hamilton County Sheriff, which was discouraging because he’s a Democrat, and I think the whole world has heard about that asshole Sheriff in Butler County.
But I did not hear about the ICE site in my neighborhood! There’s about one/third of Blue Ash that is zoned for light industry, it must have been in one of those warehouses far off the main roads. Is it still there? Dumb question, they operate in secrecy.
I think you mean me, and don’t worry about it. I just wish the use of “troll” hadn’t spread to anyone one disagrees with.
Sorry for sounding like a broken record as have mentioned this several times of late. If you’ve got Amazon Prime (and are not put off by subtitles), do not pass Go, do not collect $200, make a beeline directly to The Royal Tailor. Astonishingly good.
If you’ve got Netflix, the Spanish series Grand Hotel is almost guaranteed to draw you in, telenovela-ish though it may be in parts. Found the police detective (he doesn’t show up until several episodes in) to be one of the most intriguingly written characters have come across in a long while.
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: pretty sure it was Harland Sanders
@CarolDuhart2: It wasn’t too bad in the shady parts of Washington Park but walking in and out of the park to get to the car was brutal. My 86 year old friend cancelled at the last minute and I thought that was a wise choice for anyone with health issues.
I feel confident in predicting you’ll get plenty of other chances to match in better weather.
@Ohio Mom: Sounds like I made the right decision. Felt a little guilty about it, but 106 heat index would probably have killed me (maybe literally-5 heart stents). And keeling over in the heat would have been an unnecessary distraction..
I would have been the one with the green balloon…
And you have a car. I would have had to come by bus and back on a Saturday-which is pretty slow. I wouldn’t have made it to the bus stop.
Could we have a post about activism for people to whom it’s a challenge to march? Giving money is fine, but there has to be something else I can do.
@CarolDuhart2: The next event, assuming it is during heart-friendly weather, we need to get each other’s contact info from a front pager. It is not too far out of the way to stop in Northside (do I remember that correctly?) on the way downtown.
J R in WV
I had problems from December 1972 when I was hit by a car, but knew I would be fine because he didn’t kill me, until last week when we drove a little over 100 miles on errands in two cities.
The best thing for me is a combination of PT where they had me do “correct lifting” drills over and over after completing a thorough set of stretching and strength exercises and then hot water, as simple as hot beating shower, though hot tubs are better.
Shame our hot tub went tits up at the age of 11, with a 10 year no-leak guarantee.
J R in WV
Sorry for your fuzzy loss. We live in the forest, and have lost several furry kids to the wildlife over the decades.
Cats seem to survive if they’re paranoid stalkers. Secure critters don’t have the instinct to stay quiet and hidden.
I hope you feel up to another rescue soon, that’s always the best cure for us. Take care!
A Ghost To Most
@Keith P.: Wow, somebody remembers “V”. Lizards is our go to epithet for bad guys who can’t shoot straight.
J R in WV
Glad your mom is one of the true Americans. I feel like once you have an infinite amount of hatred for a small group of people, it’s useless to talk about which one you hate more.
That said, actual Christians are allowed to have an extra band of despise for theocratic hypocritical christo-fascists. Those folks are using religion in a fraudlent con grift to make money without having to learn to do anything of value, and to impose their despicable beliefs on everyone else. So twice as much reason to be hated there, for actual Christains.
@germy: On my iPad this morning I was also getting the certificate warning. Also comments were freezing again and my nym & email were gone.
@Barbara: I saw that one too. One of my favorites was the one with shithead as Putin’s baby
Rally in downtown Peoria — I’m visiting my daughter and daughter in law in the area — was well-attended, probably 100 people. My sign said “This is not who we are These are not American vakues” and my daughter’s sign quotes Matthew 19:14 with a beautiful image of a mother embracing a child. Lots of good signs, like “Then they came for the children and we said hell no!” And “We need a leader, not a creepy tweeter!”
@CarolDuhart2: You made a wise decision. Heart conditions and extreme heat are not a good combination! Stay cool and rested! And hydrated!
@Ohio Mom: I learned about it from an activist in my neighborhood who works with the Guatemalan immigrants in Price Hill. I also stayed to hear an immigration lawyer who was very interesting as well. The black site has no official address anywhere. The ICE agents parked in unmarked cars so it’s impossible to link a spot by using a vehicle. The site is one mile from a bus stop. Immigrants have to report once a month at a specific time. If they are 10 minutes late too bad. The woman from Price Hill went to the site and took pictures of vehicles. ICE people not happy and took picture of her license. Paging Mr. Kafka. Dear heavens I just realized how dead this thread is. I feel like a delegate at the 1972 Republican Convention clapping to the beat of a Mike Curb Congregation song blissfully unaware that clap is off by 1/2 beat.