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This Seems On Point Today

by Tom Levenson|  July 16, 201812:55 pm| 90 Comments

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Here’s nature visualizing what’s heading our way after Trump and his handler get their business settled:

 

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Open thread, y’all.

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  1. 1.

    The Dangerman

    July 16, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    HaBOOB seems appropriate and not for any anatomical reasons; Trump is a fucking dolt.

    I wonder how FOX will spin it? And how does FOX get away with it? Hannity shares an attorney with Trump. Kimberly G. is screwing Don, Jr.

    Unbelievable.

    ETA: I had a late night last night; waking up (slowly) to this nonsense is painful.

  2. 2.

    cmorenc

    July 16, 2018 at 1:00 pm

    This is the first time in American history we’ve had a unquestionable TRAITOR as President of the US. I wish all living former Presidents of the US, including both Bushes, would hold a joint presser stating this.

  3. 3.

    ruemara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    Haboob does seem most accurate to describe the current Soviet governorship of America.

  4. 4.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    @cmorenc: Nixon undermining LBJ’s peace talks…

  5. 5.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    @The Dangerman: Cheryl reports in the downstairs thread that even Fox commentators are calling it disgusting.

  6. 6.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:06 pm

    @Yarrow: Some of them, anyway.

  7. 7.

    cmorenc

    July 16, 2018 at 1:08 pm

    @The Dangerman:

    I wonder how FOX will spin it?

    Actually, at least at the Fox News website (as opposed to their broadcast) their initial take is nauseating more for it’s matter-of-fact “not much to see here” blandness as it is (yet) for overt cheerleading. But give it a few hours for them to realize they need to handle to the widespread explosively negative reaction outside the Fox bubble, once it’s sunk in that its denizens need some propaganda and protection to assure they stay in the corral.

  8. 8.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:09 pm

    How soon before trump reports to Fox & Friends?

  9. 9.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    whataboutism

    "It is true that Putin is an authoritarian and is domestically repressive. That's true of many U.S. allies as well… including the ones that fund most of the think tanks in D.C., such as the UAE or Saudi Arabia," says @ggreenwald. #DNlive pic.twitter.com/ssNl1fUzPu— Democracy Now! (@democracynow) July 16, 2018

  10. 10.

    BruceFromOhio

    July 16, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    This made me happy.

    (Warning – autorun on the accompanying video)

    Papa John’s (PZZA) is taking more steps to distance itself from its founder. The board late Sunday ended an agreement with John Schnatter that would have let him still appear as the public face of the company. They also booted him from using office space at headquarters. Schnatter resigned as chairman last week after using a racial slur in a conference call.

    Alas, the pizza s still awful, maybe at some point they’ll fix that too.

  11. 11.

    Waldo

    July 16, 2018 at 1:11 pm

    Putin’s got a lot of nerve making the leader of the free world wait 45 minutes to kiss his ass.

  12. 12.

    Quinerly

    July 16, 2018 at 1:13 pm

    @germy: Hannity and Carlson are getting the first post summit interviews.

  13. 13.

    Hobbes83

    July 16, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    @germy: Man, Greenwald’s fifteen minutes of fame expired about five years ago. It’s amazing that anyone actually takes him seriously anymore considering the massive amounts of bullshit he healed on Obama compared to his damning silence since Trump has been in office. Fuck him.

  14. 14.

    BruceFromOhio

    July 16, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    @germy: HEY GLENN, NONE OF THEM FUCKED WITH THE ELECTION. HOW ABOUT IT, HEY?

    Dickhead.

  15. 15.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    July 16, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    I take it your not a fan of cardboard with ketchup and cheese product topping.

  16. 16.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    @Quinerly: It’s so easy to identify the traitors. Watching members of the media scramble to explain themselves and their contacts with Guccifer 2.0 on Friday was another example.

  17. 17.

    dmsilev

    July 16, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    @germy: Who is Greenwald’s audience these days? Are there really enough Jill Stein voters and other idiots to sustain a business? I know there’s lots of speculation that he’s simply a propaganda mouthpiece, but he really seems to believe the nonsense he spouts so I’m more inclined to place him towards the ‘useful idiot’ end of the spectrum.

  18. 18.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 16, 2018 at 1:17 pm

    @The Dangerman: They’ll probably do some overt pro-Putin propagandizing; he’s been laying the groundwork on the megachurch lecture circuit for years, convincing the US right that he’s the world’s great white hope for the Christian autocracy we need. The US could really use some domination by Russia, they’ll say. And some fairly large fraction of their viewers will swallow it. The question is just how large.

  19. 19.

    Barbara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: My kid likes Papa John’s, and honestly, I think it’s okay, or at least about as good as any other chain. The local franchise that delivers to our house is extremely successful, I have spoken with the owner, and I can’t believe Schnatter would be so willing to undermine those businesses to serve his own ego. Or I can believe it but it’s still disgusting.

  20. 20.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    @dmsilev: He’s not a useful idiot; he’s a Russian asset and has been for some time. He’s on Fox on a regular basis so Fox viewers are part of his audience.

  21. 21.

    Hobbes83

    July 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm

    @Yarrow: Of all the people who associated with Trump and who talked to Guccifer, Roger Stone should be the one who is most concerned about that indictment.

  22. 22.

    rikyrah

    July 16, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    @cmorenc:

    This is the first time in American history we’ve had a unquestionable TRAITOR as President of the US. I wish all living former Presidents of the US, including both Bushes, would hold a joint presser stating this

    You tell the truth.

  23. 23.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    @dmsilev: He certainly has a ton of defenders on twitter.

    Of course, his most important audience is the guy who pays him half a million bucks a year to promote a certain worldview.

  24. 24.

    Barbara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    @dmsilev: I would guess that Glenn Greenwald’s audience these days hews pretty closely to people who still think that Julian Assange and Edward Snowden are heroes. Greenwald went through the looking glass a long time ago.

  25. 25.

    bluehill

    July 16, 2018 at 1:20 pm

    When does the apology tour stop? We’ve come a long way from “Country First”.

  26. 26.

    Miss Bianca

    July 16, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    @germy: Democracy Now! never seemed more laughably misnamed.

  27. 27.

    ruemara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    @germy: FUCK THAT BASTARD! And Democracy Now is totally dead to me.

    @dmsilev: Just like “fake news” isn’t for you, it’s to give the base the “LALALALALALA” they need and reinforce the tribe, so too is this not about building an audience, this is about reinforcing the mind numbing denialism that creates a comforting mental environment to allow atrocities to happen.

  28. 28.

    chris

    July 16, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Who is Greenwald’s audience these days?

    Don’t know but Omidyar’s Intercept pays him about US$500,000/year. Not bad if you live in Brazil.

  29. 29.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    @Hobbes83: He’s one of many.

  30. 30.

    Downpuppy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    @dmsilev: Greenwald’s audience is Pierre Omidyar, who pays all the bills.

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    July 16, 2018 at 1:24 pm

    @chris: That’s not bad pretty much anywhere. Guess propaganda pays well.

  32. 32.

    tobie

    July 16, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    @dmsilev: The same people who watch Democracy Now and Young Turks.
    ETA: I have one acquaintance who loves Amy Goodman and she’s been telling me for almost two years that Crimea is in truth Russian. Whatever the size of the Russian-ethnic population, I don’t see how you can simply do away with agreed-upon borders. It’s a weird justification for the invasion.

  33. 33.

    Gravenstone

    July 16, 2018 at 1:26 pm

    @germy: Greenie is just begging for a deep dive into his own finances with that little tweet. He’s compliantly passing along someone’s POV.

  34. 34.

    Major Major Major Major

    July 16, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    I always loved the word haboob.

  35. 35.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:28 pm

    At the Constitutional Convention, James Madison imagined impeachment as a relief from a chief executive who “might lose his capacity after his appointment. He might pervert his administration into a scheme of peculation or oppression. He might betray his trust to foreign powers.” https://t.co/1lKbNapUWD

    — LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) July 16, 2018

  36. 36.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    @Gravenstone: I assume at some point he’ll piss off the bad guys in Brazil, and he’ll have to flee somewhere else.

    Whenever there’s inconvenient news about trump, he tweets about local corruption and violence. I suspect at some point those folks will grow tired of him.

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 16, 2018 at 1:31 pm

    Everything is very frightening, but “haboob” will never not be a funny word.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    July 16, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Five days until EQUALIZER 2!!!

    Yeah!!
    I think I’m gonna need this movie by the weekend.

  39. 39.

    Cheryl Rofer

    July 16, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Lavrov, asked how the summit went, responds:
    "Fabulous…better than super." https://t.co/Ah7IbiWit0

    — Anton Troianovski (@antontroian) July 16, 2018

  40. 40.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    Roger Stone: This indictment is exoneration
    CNN-Jul 13, 2018

    Longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone says he is exonerated by special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictments against 12 Russians

    In other news, up is down and down is up.

  41. 41.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    Trump Baby (might) be coming to America, baby.

  42. 42.

    Ruckus

    July 16, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    @The Ancient Randonneur:
    Taking the box that pizza normally comes in and smearing some katsoup in it and calling it pizza does not make it pizza.

  43. 43.

    efgoldman

    July 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    Alas, the pizza s still awful

    But when our kid was in college, it was the only place which would deliver at two or three ayem.

  44. 44.

    ruemara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    @rikyrah: Ditto, I will need that ultra-violence and I hope, like last time, he’s killing a bunch of Russians. Then I will see Ant-Man. Maybe just spend all fucking day in a theater and let the world go to shit without me. #mad

  45. 45.

    trollhattan

    July 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    Word! [sorry]

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    July 16, 2018 at 1:38 pm

    @efgoldman:
    I wonder how eternally pissed off Papa Murphy’s is that they’re so frequently confused with the other Papa. Should have considered that in the bidnez plan (admit I have no idea which came first).

  47. 47.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    @ruemara: I need to see Sorry To Bother You again. Lots of details and layers in that film. We’ll probably go this weekend.

  48. 48.

    BretH

    July 16, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Video reminds me of a photo I took in Niger in the 80’s.

    First dust storm of the season

    I really need to do a photo post of those in On the Road and In Your Backyard…

  49. 49.

    Chyron HR

    July 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    Alas, the pizza s still awful, maybe at some point they’ll fix that too.

    Okay, but their complimentary cups of garlic-flavored grease are ON POINT.

  50. 50.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    Neil Cavuto weighs in

    “This had gotta be the most incredible thing I ever witnessed,” the host said during a Fox Business interview following the summit. He compared Putin’s proposed quid pro quo — an “exchange [of] information from each side’s accused hackers” — to a perpetrator helping firefighters investigate an arson.

    “I don’t know,” Cavuto continued. “I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to maybe jet lag and time differences.”

    “But holy moly,” he added.

  51. 51.

    ruemara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    @germy: I want to see that & Mr. Rogers, too.

  52. 52.

    Mnemosyne

    July 16, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    One more day of work before I head off to Denver for my conference. I’m half-packed but need to finish that tonight so I’m not stressed in the morning. I’m trying not to get sucked into the Trump drama because fuck that traitorous asshole.

  53. 53.

    efgoldman

    July 16, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    Lavrov, asked how the summit went, responds:”Fabulous…better than super.”

    I understand that Weasel Face gave Pootie Kazootie the Grand Canyon and Statue of Liberty as wonderful parting gifts .

  54. 54.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:45 pm

    I never thought I would see the day when our American President would stand on the stage with the Russian President and place blame on the United States for Russian aggression. This is shameful.— Jeff Flake (@JeffFlake) July 16, 2018

    The comments are almost all some variation of “DO SOMETHING!”

  55. 55.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    @Teddys Person:

    “I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to maybe jet lag and time differences.”

    A courtesy they always paid to President Obama.

  56. 56.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m trying not to get sucked into the Trump drama because fuck that traitorous asshole.

    Save yourself. It’s too late for me.

  57. 57.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Darth Vadar’s spawn has a hot take

    Liz Cheney
    @Liz_Cheney

    As a member of the House Armed Services Committee, I am deeply troubled by President Trump’s defense of Putin against the intelligence agencies of the U.S. & his suggestion of moral equivalence between the U.S. and Russia. Russia poses a grave threat to our national security.

    10:22 AM – Jul 16, 2018

  58. 58.

    germy

    July 16, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    “And now we hear from the heartland…”

    A C-SPAN caller just thanked Russia for "interfering in our elections" pic.twitter.com/wyIBSGc3S0— jordan (@JordanUhl) July 16, 2018

  59. 59.

    prostratedragon

    July 16, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    We might get to that big bass entrance yet:
    “Fugata”
    (Sort of an “Uh-oh, chese it!” section of the tone poem.)

  60. 60.

    Yarrow

    July 16, 2018 at 1:51 pm

    @Teddys Person: “Deeply troubled.” Wonder if she knows she can DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

  61. 61.

    ruemara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    @Chyron HR: Alright. I’m putting an end to this travesty by posting a pizza recipe in the next citizenship update. Garlic grease. Heathen.

  62. 62.

    efgoldman

    July 16, 2018 at 1:53 pm

    @Teddys Person:

    Darth Vadar’s spawn has a hot take

    So Flake, Vaderspawn, and probably some others are squeaking up. You think they’ll do a single fucking thing?

    Spoiler: no

    Fuckem

  63. 63.

    Jim Parish

    July 16, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    @tobie: Have you tried mentioning that that was the same argument Hitler used in claiming the Sudetenland?

  64. 64.

    TeezySkeezy (formerly the T S you hate)

    July 16, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    @germy: It’s possible to acknowledge those facts about some of our “allies” as correct and be mad about them while also being mad about Trump subverting our country for one of the worst of ’em. Of all the kinds of whataboutism, the ones where the observations should just add to the total rage rather than diminish the original indignity are the most enraging.

  65. 65.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 1:55 pm

    @efgoldman: Republicans and their media enablers have taking acting like outside observers to an art form.

  66. 66.

    Lapassionara

    July 16, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    @germy: I feel sick, the way I felt on 9/11. How are we going to ensure the integrity of the November elections?

    We need a meteor strike, a lightning bolt, a massive coronary. Please, FSM, you’re our only hope.

  67. 67.

    laura

    July 16, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    @ruemara: spouse and I saw Won’t You Be My Neighbor on Saturday. Deeply, deeply moving. Highly recommend it. Balm for a weary heart.
    Bring a hanky.

  68. 68.

    Mnemosyne

    July 16, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    @Yarrow:

    She and the other Republicans are in too deep now. There’s no way to wiggle free without their own complicity being revealed.

    This is why you never bet the devil your head — he’ll always find a way to win.

  69. 69.

    Gravenstone

    July 16, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Translation: we got everything we sought, and a bonus!

  70. 70.

    Tokyokie

    July 16, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    Neil Cavuto: “I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to maybe jet lag and time differences.”

    His trip to Helsinki is roughly the same difference as flying from Denver to Washington, D.C. If even those minor rigors are more than the bloated pansy can handle, then the treasonous bastard should quit his office and retire to his lovely dacha outside Sevastopol.

  71. 71.

    trollhattan

    July 16, 2018 at 2:00 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Plus the home game version of Trump’s show, “I’m all about the Benjamins”

  72. 72.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    Profiles in fucking courage

    House Speaker Paul Ryan, following President Donald Trump’s remarks on Russia on Monday, said there was “no question” that Moscow interfered in the U.S. 2016 election and that Trump “must appreciate that Russia is not our ally.”

    “There is no moral equivalence between the United States and Russia, which remains hostile to our most basic values and ideals. The United States must be focused on holding Russia accountable and putting an end to its vile attacks on democracy,” Ryan said in a statement.

    emphasis mine

  73. 73.

    Gravenstone

    July 16, 2018 at 2:02 pm

    @Teddys Person: When even the Foxbots dredge up some minor vestige of their pre-corruption selves, you know it’s serious.

  74. 74.

    Gravenstone

    July 16, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    @germy: Did the caller have discernible Russian accent?

  75. 75.

    Teddys Person

    July 16, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    @Tokyokie: And it’s not like he’s crammed into steerage like us peons.

  76. 76.

    Tokyokie

    July 16, 2018 at 2:06 pm

    @Teddys Person:

    And it’s not like he’s crammed into steerage like us peons.

    Or had to get to the airport several hours in order to participate in security theater.

  77. 77.

    tobie

    July 16, 2018 at 2:07 pm

    @Jim Parish: Good one. I’ll try it since my acquaintance was born in the last year of WWII as her Polish-Jewish parents were in hiding in the south of France. Maybe this will have some resonance, though I doubt it. She voted for Stein on the grounds that first things need to get really bad before we can have a socialist republic. I could have reminded her of Thälmann’s statement, “Nach Hitler uns,” but I was too aghast to say much of anything.

  78. 78.

    A Ghost To Most

    July 16, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Do we still own Alaska?

  79. 79.

    But Her Emails!!!

    July 16, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    His trip to Helsinki is roughly the same difference as flying from Denver to Washington, D.C. If even those minor rigors are more than the bloated pansy can handle, then the treasonous bastard should quit his office and retire to his lovely dacha outside Sevastopol.

    His trip was from Scotland to Helsinki.

  80. 80.

    Tokyokie

    July 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    @But Her Emails!!!: @But Her Emails!!!: And I figured the mileage from Aberdeen, not London. And GMT is 2 hours behind Helsinki time, as is the case of Denver with respect to the Eastern Time Zone.

  81. 81.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    @germy:

    a chief executive who “might lose his capacity after his appointment.

    ✔️ check

    He might pervert his administration into a scheme of peculation or oppression.

    ✔️ check

    He might betray his trust to foreign powers.”

    ✔️ and check.

  82. 82.

    But Her Emails!!!

    July 16, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    @Tokyokie: Ah. Ok. My bad.

  83. 83.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 16, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    @BretH:

    I really need to do a photo post of those in On the Road and In Your Backyard…

    Wow! Yes, you certainly do!

  84. 84.

    efgoldman

    July 16, 2018 at 2:40 pm

    @Lapassionara:

    How are we going to ensure the integrity of the November elections?

    Stop it!
    Work as a poll watcher, make sure people are registered properly. Do what you can in your little corner of the world. Despair gets us nowhere except defeated.

  85. 85.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm

    @efgoldman:

    So Flake, Vaderspawn, and probably some others are squeaking up.

    Can’t find it now, but earlier I saw Lindsey Graham opining that the meeting was a “missed opportunity.”

    I’m not sure I can take such strong language.

  86. 86.

    Neldob

    July 16, 2018 at 3:01 pm

    Paper ballots.

  87. 87.

    Kathleen

    July 16, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    @germy: Reagan undermining release of American hostages in Iran.

  88. 88.

    Kathleen

    July 16, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    @dmsilev: He’s an active tool. Yeah, I know the thread is dead. It’s what I do.

  89. 89.

    Amir Khalid

    July 16, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    @Teddys Person:
    I know this thread is well and truly dead, so you won’t see this. But your mythological allusion is well off-target: the spawn of Darth Vader are Luke and Leia.

  90. 90.

    workworkwork

    July 17, 2018 at 9:06 am

    @Gravenstone: She only identified herself as “Elizabeth J. from Washington DC”.

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