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You are here: Home / Politics / Trumpery / Dolt 45 / The Stupid and the Willing

The Stupid and the Willing

by John Cole|  July 17, 20184:18 pm| 159 Comments

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Sean Hannity hardest hit. https://t.co/V0ao3yOZyd

— AgainstTrumpDude (@TheAmishDude) July 17, 2018

DON’T MAKE AMERICA NOT GREAT AGAIN pic.twitter.com/3hG4Z3ThVg

— ElElegante101 (@skolanach) July 17, 2018

“The sentence should have been, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t, or why it wouldn’t be Russia,” the president added later. “So just to repeated it, I said the word ‘would’ instead of ‘wouldn’t’ and this sentence should have been, and I thought I would maybe be a little bit unclear on the transcripts or unclear on the actual video, but the sentence should have been, I don’t see any reason why it wouldn’t be Russia. So sort of a double negative.”

Imagine how confident you have to be inside the White House that the Republican base is a full-on bunch of morons or people who just don’t care about anything so long as it triggers the libs to write that statement for Comrade Trumpski to recite today. The sky is the limit to what you can do or say with this bunch of idiots willing to swallow any choad you shoot on them.

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  1. 1.

    arrieve

    July 17, 2018 at 4:21 pm

    Like Trump knows what a double negative is.

  2. 2.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 17, 2018 at 4:22 pm

    people who just don’t care about anything so long as it triggers the libs

    You know these people, John. They’re fighting for the imagined survival of the White Race. A black man became president. They can allow no compromise, no room for anything but Us vs Them anymore.

  3. 3.

    germy

    July 17, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Silly libs:

    The left can't keep up with the speed of Trump https://t.co/W8c6OqWmk7— Sean Hannity (@seanhannity) July 17, 2018

  4. 4.

    Tokyokie

    July 17, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    Sure, all of us have the occasional rhetorical slip-up. But not realizing you left out a “not” as soon as you didn’t say it and having to make a lame-ass alibi 24 hours later? Jeez, he thinks everybody is a stupid as he is.

    Although with Republicans, he’s probably right.

  5. 5.

    Mnemosyne

    July 17, 2018 at 4:23 pm

    In less depressing news, I stepped off the airport train when we arrived at Denver’s Union Station and the first sight that greeted my eyes was a local bookstore.

    I like this town already, especially since I was able to get a yummy breakfast at Snooze, right inside Union Station.

  6. 6.

    p.a.

    July 17, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    @arrieve: he may think it’s what happened in the Moscow hotel.

  7. 7.

    James E Powell

    July 17, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    The confidence comes from the fact that the Republican base only watches FOX and only listens to RW radio. They have always done and said what they were told to do and say.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    July 17, 2018 at 4:24 pm

    Wouldn’t-gate.

  9. 9.

    maya

    July 17, 2018 at 4:25 pm

    The saddest words of mouth or pen,
    Are these sad words,
    It woulda, coulda, shoulda been.

  10. 10.

    Tokyokie

    July 17, 2018 at 4:26 pm

    @germy: Libs can’t keep up with Hannity’s man-crush because we insist on moving forward, and he’s constantly moving backward. The only way to keep up with him is to become as retrograde as he and his supporters are.

  11. 11.

    Nicole

    July 17, 2018 at 4:26 pm

    A friend posted one of the clips from Fox Business criticizing (so to speak) the meeting, and said that the comments after were a bunch of right-wingers angrily declaring that, except for Sean Hannity, they are never watching FOX again. It’s useless.

  12. 12.

    Quinerly

    July 17, 2018 at 4:26 pm

    Meanwhile…..

    The U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem will cost almost 100 times more than Trump claimed in March. “They put an order in front of my desk last week for $1 billion,” Trump claimed at the time, “We’re actually doing it for about $250,000, so check that out.” But a Maryland construction firm has now been awarded a $21.2 million contract to design and build “compound security upgrades” at the embassy. (Newsweek)

  13. 13.

    HeleninEire

    July 17, 2018 at 4:28 pm

    LOL. Like I said last thread. He has NO CLUE what a double negative is.

  14. 14.

    Mnemosyne

    July 17, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    @Nicole:

    At least half of the commenters were probably paid trolls or bots, but try telling the other half that. ?

  15. 15.

    Teddys Person

    July 17, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    @HeleninEire: When that second STD test comes back negative?

  16. 16.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 17, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    As we noted in the previous thread:

    * It’s not a walk-back. He says it COULD be Russia. He says it’s also probably some other people too.

    * Trump repeated his statements to Hannity during a televised interview like an hour later. There’s literally no way he misspoke twice in the exact same way and followed the same context.

    Anyone who believes Trump on this is a fool. Or being paid to believe him.

  17. 17.

    Nicole

    July 17, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Excellent point. Especially seeing as how the spelling, grammar, and punctuation from the Russian bots is indistinguishable from that of American born right-wing nutjobs.

  18. 18.

    The Dangerman

    July 17, 2018 at 4:31 pm

    What does wouldn’t not be Russia even mean? That Russia hacking is to be expected?

    Oh, and fuck Hannity.

  19. 19.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 4:32 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Anyone who believes Trump on this is a fool.

    a.k.a. a target-rich environment.

  20. 20.

    The Moar You Know

    July 17, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    Imagine how confident you have to be inside the White House that the Republican base is a full-on bunch of morons or people who just don’t care about anything so long as it triggers the libs to write that statement for Comrade Trumpski to recite today.

    I’m not inside the White House and am supremely confident that the Republican base are a full-on bunch of morons.

  21. 21.

    StringOnAStick

    July 17, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    @Nicole:

    … and said that the comments after were a bunch of right-wingers angrily declaring that, except for Sean Hannity, they are never watching FOX again. It’s useless.

    Good, it will shrink their numbers even further. Down to about 27% of the population, I suspect. Seriously, the more bunkered they get, the crazier and more obviously so they become. I’m not a huge SBC fan but I wonder if his new show will do such a thorough shaming of the R gun nuts that it becomes socially acceptable/obligatory to point and laugh.

  22. 22.

    cynthia ackerman

    July 17, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Which is why it’s disappointing that TPM/AP refer to shitgibbon “correcting” himself.

  23. 23.

    Teddys Person

    July 17, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    Stern turtle being stern:

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Tuesday the chamber could consider new sanctions against Russia and warned Russia not to meddle in the U.S. mid-term elections in November.

    Speaking to reporters a day after U.S. President Donald Trump met with Russian President Vladimir Putin and then in a joint news conference declined to embrace U.S. intelligence organizations’ finding that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. election, McConnell said: “It really better not happen again in 2018.”

    Tomorrow, Mitch will tell us he misspoke and meant to say couldn’t.

  24. 24.

    FlipYrWhig

    July 17, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    “I totally meant to say ‘I see no reason not to have had to have been about to believe that it couldn’t have had to have been Russia. Or maybe it will turn out that it never could have had to have been anyone other than someone 400 pounds on his bed.'”

  25. 25.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 17, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    @cynthia ackerman: I mean, Trump SAYS he corrected himself. But… he didn’t.

    The amount of lies that comes from the man is literally insane. Like, gob-smackingly nuts. I can see why reporters have a hard time with him if they’re trying to give detail, but it shouldn’t be that hard to say “Trump lies about X in blatantly wrong statement” in your headline, and it’s completely factual.

    @Teddys Person: “McConnell followed that up with saying the Mueller Probe needed to end, and he won’t be passing legislation to protect it. MAGA.”

    Someday, our media will figure out that Lucy is going to pull the football away. Someday.

  26. 26.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 17, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    Trump said what he said yesterday and no “walk backs” will change that. There is no way in hell that he would have said that there was no reason why Russia wouldn’t have interfered in the election yesterday in front of Putin. He’s terrified of Putin.

  27. 27.

    The Other Chuck

    July 17, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    @Tokyokie: It’s also why when normal people make a point, they use more than one sentence. Though shitmidas at least knows to keep his utterances short for precisely that reason, so he can’t be pinned down as actually having said anything specific, ever.

    Of course our dauntless media outlets will be pressing the WH for clarification on a daily basis. Oh excuse me, Amazon just delivered me the pony I ordered made of diamonds.

  28. 28.

    bupalos

    July 17, 2018 at 4:39 pm

    I’m pretty sure he’s used the formulation he actually used at the time before, “why would they” prefer me, In the context of “why would they favor me, everyone knows they’re afraid of me because I’m the toughest in the world on them, much tougher than Hitlery…”

    That kind of thing.

    The inflection is all wrong for it to have been intended as “wouldn’t.” And there are like 10 other statements in there along the same lines.

  29. 29.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    I wish we could send these “stupid and willing” to some other planet. As a food source. To Serve Putin Man.

  30. 30.

    Roger Moore

    July 17, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    In less depressing news, I stepped off the airport train when we arrived at Denver’s Union Station and the first sight that greeted my eyes was a local bookstore.

    Is that The Tattered Cover? Because it’s not just a bookstore; it’s a very good bookstore.

  31. 31.

    Mary G

    July 17, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Attached to this tweet is a hilarious clip from the way back mac

    Hey remember that time he said Hillary's book would flop and that he'd eat his shoe if it sold a million copies? And then she showed the fuck up and made him eat it? ??? pic.twitter.com/mzDTljBpYU— Chris Evans ? (@notcapnamerica) July 17, 2018

    hine of Hillary pwning Tucker Carlson.

  32. 32.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Trump’s followers will believe him. But as you say, they are fools. The rest of us know that Trump is an unrepentant liar. I’d be shocked if anything he says is ever found to be true.

  33. 33.

    A Ghost To Most

    July 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    @germy:

    The left can’t keep up with the speed of Trump

    Zero to treason in one week.

  34. 34.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    July 17, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    Well, the good news is that his fans and asskissers aren’t going to give a shit. They can believe any number of mutually exclusive things at the same time. There’s no bottom to these people. I’ve said it again and again. Those people are beyond help. They’re worthless. This is up to us. We have one shot now, maybe, to pull us back from going over the edge, and that’s November. We have to take Congress. There’s no other hope.

  35. 35.

    syphonblue

    July 17, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    None of this was a walk-back! In the VERY NEXT SENTENCE, he says “could have been other people”!

    He also said (in Helsinki)m “I have great confidence in my intelligence people but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today”

    So which part of THAT was a slip of the tongue?

  36. 36.

    The Other Chuck

    July 17, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    @Roger Moore: Another great Denver institution worth a visit would be Capitol Hill Books. And of course the many amazing breweries (I highly recommend Bierstadt Lagerhaus).

  37. 37.

    Hungry Joe

    July 17, 2018 at 4:50 pm

    There is no way to keep up with someone who hawks up unending globs of gibberish. Ordinarily you’d ignore it, but he’s the goddam president of the United States. The only way to deal with it is to point out the lies, inconsistencies, and lunacy. The media has finally stuck its collective toe into those waters, but they’re already so muddied by the Right’s “Enemy of the People” harangue that a significant percentage of the populace is unreachable.

  38. 38.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 17, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    Voting for T as President was like dividing by zero, yet millions of idiots (kindest interpretation) did it.

  39. 39.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 17, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    @Tokyokie: He left out the “not” in front of Putin and then in front of Hannitty. He really thinks that the entire country is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt when most of us can NOT stand him.

  40. 40.

    Jeffro

    July 17, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    Bibble-dee babble-dee boo!!!

    Why, it’s almost like the president* is a complete fucking moron…what could go wrong?

  41. 41.

    Mary G

    July 17, 2018 at 4:56 pm

    Twitler’s typewritten notes for the “I take it back” speech this morning included one addition written in the black Sharpie he always uses, saying “There was no colusion,” and yes, spelled like that:

    Trump was reading for a typewritten script during his "clarification" moment but he made some handwritten additions, including: "THERE WAS NO COLLUSION" pic.twitter.com/0IfleZm8yJ— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) July 17, 2018

  42. 42.

    BC in Illinois

    July 17, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    The importance of the proper number of negatives.

    When [the Piranha brothers] left school . . . they began to operate what they called ‘The Operation’.They would select a victim and then threaten to beat him up if he paid the so-called protection money.

    Four months later they started another operation which the called ‘The Other Operation’. In this racket they selected another victim and threatened not to beat him up if he didn’t pay them.

    One month later they hit upon ‘The Other Other Operation’. In this the victim was threatened that if he didn’t pay them, they would beat him up.

    This for the Piranha brothers was the turning point.

  43. 43.

    r€nato

    July 17, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    when I encounter one of these Trump dead-enders, I like to ask them something similar to the following:

    “So what would it take for you to finally denounce Trump? Where’s the line? Infant rape? Please tell us that if Trump raped an infant, you’d have something bad to say about him.”

  44. 44.

    Humdog

    July 17, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    I didn’t do it.
    If I did, it wasn’t that bad.
    If it was, it’s not that big a deal.
    If it is a big deal, it’s not my fault.
    If it is my fault, I didn’t mean it.
    If I did, you deserved it.

    Where are we on his denial timeline now?

  45. 45.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    George Will today. WaPost. This sad, embarrassing wreck of a man

    … Americans elected a president who — this is a safe surmise — knew that he had more to fear from making his tax returns public than from keeping them secret. The most innocent inference is that for decades he has depended on an American weakness, susceptibility to the tacky charisma of wealth, which would evaporate when his tax returns revealed that he has always lied about his wealth, too. A more ominous explanation might be that his redundantly demonstrated incompetence as a businessman tumbled him into unsavory financial dependencies on Russians. A still more sinister explanation might be that the Russians have something else, something worse, to keep him compliant.

    The explanation is in doubt; what needs to be explained — his compliance — is not. Granted, Trump has a weak man’s banal fascination with strong men whose disdain for him is evidently unimaginable to him. And, yes, he only perfunctorily pretends to have priorities beyond personal aggrandizement. But just as astronomers inferred, from anomalies in the orbits of the planet Uranus, the existence of Neptune before actually seeing it, Mueller might infer, and then find, still-hidden sources of the behavior of this sad, embarrassing wreck of a man.

    It’s the tax returns. Liberate them. That will be the middle of the end, along with Team Mueller.

  46. 46.

    Betty Cracker

    July 17, 2018 at 5:04 pm

    Nancy Smash was brief and to the point.

    Nice try. But seriously, no one believes you. https://t.co/XHjGdMx1IU

    — Nancy Pelosi (@TeamPelosi) July 17, 2018

  47. 47.

    Baud

    July 17, 2018 at 5:05 pm

    @Betty Cracker: She needs to go!

  48. 48.

    Mai Naem mobile

    July 17, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    Trumpov can correct all kinds of stuff he says but Obama was never allowed to correct the stupid Red Line comment he made about Syria and chemical weapons. I am so sick of tired off the bigotry of low expectations of this assshole

  49. 49.

    Yarrow

    July 17, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    “Meddling” is what happens in Scooby Doo. We should stop calling Russian attacks on American democracy “meddling” and start calling it by its name: “information warfare.” My latest: https://t.co/dMh6J2Csh0— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) July 17, 2018

    Yep.

  50. 50.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 5:06 pm

    I love Nancy Smash. That’s why bots and people who should know better are trying to tear her down.

    I hope she will be our president once the Trump maladministration is swept out. Before the end of his term.

  51. 51.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 5:08 pm

    @Mary G:
    Now that was teevee worth watching. :-)

  52. 52.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 5:09 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    FTW. Somebody needs to primary Nancy SMASH from the left, obviously.

  53. 53.

    rikyrah

    July 17, 2018 at 5:11 pm

    @Yarrow:
    No lie told ?

  54. 54.

    different-church-lady

    July 17, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    Because it’s well know in statecraft that when you’re standing on the world stage with another superpower, you just wing it, verbiage-wise…

  55. 55.

    rikyrah

    July 17, 2018 at 5:12 pm

    On point, Cole.
    PS- please lift our spirits with some animal pictures ?

  56. 56.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    @Elizabelle:
    Nice and on the mark, but I always have to fall back on the path for Trump being laid by Will’s beloved Ronny Reagan, something Will willfully (heh) ignores.

  57. 57.

    ewrunning

    July 17, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    I think that the best way to describe Trump’s walk back is a phrase James Thurber once applied to one of his own books: “Not unmeaningless.”

  58. 58.

    different-church-lady

    July 17, 2018 at 5:13 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    no one believes you.

    WHEN WILL YOU DROP IDENTITY POLITICS?!?

  59. 59.

    debbie

    July 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    I got into an argument with someone at work who insists the IC is to blame because they also were wrong about 9/11. I told him he is probably too young to remember George Tennant’s hair being on fire or Richard Clarke’s loud complaints about the Bush administration refusing to pay attention to the many danger signs. I would have had more success if I had just punched him in the belly.

  60. 60.

    kindness

    July 17, 2018 at 5:22 pm

    In these times, Trump’s treasonous behavior is bad. Very bad. But to me I am more pissed at Trump’s woeful base. These are the troglodyites of the despicables. I mean, I get them wanting to make libs cry is more meaningful to them than their bankers stealing their retirements. They vote for that all the time. But in this case these despicables are rooting for Putin to win. That is a Holy Shit Batman thing. Trump we’ll be rid of come 2021 but his base is going to stay with us for the rest of their horrible lives. If a civil war breaks out, the fighting won’t be the military against some group. It’ll be the rest of us (citizens) against them.

  61. 61.

    hedgehog mobile

    July 17, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    Unfriended someone on Facebook who announced that “Clinton is just as criminal as Trump”. Fucking done with willful stupidity.

  62. 62.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    July 17, 2018 at 5:24 pm

    @r€nato:
    @kindness:

    I don’t know. I know it’s hard to believe that I’m even writing that I don’t know, but I don’t. I don’t know. I can only guess that some of them would dump his sorry ass if he raped a baby, but a lot of them wouldn’t.

    Something came together for me today. This is a cult. What we’re dealing with here is a kind of cult. People who belong to cults will believe whatever they need to believe to keep their faith. Shit. They’ll drink poison. They’ll kill themselves so they can go off into space with aliens. They’ll do anything. Waving away a baby rape would be no big deal for these people, if it came to that.

    What this is is a cult. I don’t know what we do about it, or how we deal with having a third of the people in this country belonging to a cult. That’s the next step. People more on the ball than I am are going to have to work that out. But coming to understand the truth here, that this is a cult, that’s the first thing we have to do.

  63. 63.

    JPL

    July 17, 2018 at 5:25 pm

    Katy Tur is not a happy camper, and is not allowing Tom Reed to make his case.

  64. 64.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    July 17, 2018 at 5:28 pm

    The more that I think about this cult angle, the more it comes together. Cults are normally led by psychopaths, by thoroughly, pathetically inadequate losers. So is this one. I don’t know how such people get anybody to get behind them, but they do. Benedict Donald is a cult leader.

  65. 65.

    hueyplong

    July 17, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    So maybe he misspoke, and meant to say that Mexico wouldn’t pay for the wall.

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    @debbie:
    I find your conclusion acceptable [punch]. If cow-orker persists, present him/her with the “Bin Laden determined to strike in US” memo and direct them to look up Rice, Condi and Bush, George W. for any further needed details. Moron.

  67. 67.

    chopper

    July 17, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    “believe me, i ain’t not no undummy”

  68. 68.

    MattF

    July 17, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    @Elizabelle: Nowadays, George Fucking Will is reliable on Trump– I’ll admit that. Calling Pence a grovelling lickspittle is pretty good, in fact. But Will has gotten somewhat vague about the legality of the Mueller appointment; it’s his typical phony ‘expertise’ about things that he knows nothing about. I see no reason to give Will wiggle room on that– is he for it or against it?

  69. 69.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    Maybe Janet Reno can reanimate and conduct a Waco on their culty asses.

  70. 70.

    chopper

    July 17, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    @hueyplong:

    seems like this fits with most everything he says. just add a negative in there.

  71. 71.

    hueyplong

    July 17, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    @chopper: Yes, that is pretty much where I was going.

  72. 72.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 5:35 pm

    @hedgehog mobile: Good for you. No reason to put up with that level of idiocy.

    That idiot has freedom of speech. Does not have the right to impose idiocy on you.

  73. 73.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 5:36 pm

    @MattF: George Will is a Reagan lapdog and most likely a monarchist.

    But having the scales fall from his eyes has been useful. He was rather early in his Trump disdain, so credit where it is due, although that doesn’t mean we develop amnesia about this other awful stuff either.

  74. 74.

    chopper

    July 17, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    @hueyplong:

    you mean it wasn’t where you weren’t going.

  75. 75.

    FlipYrWhig

    July 17, 2018 at 5:40 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    What this is is a cult. I don’t know what we do about it, or how we deal with having a third of the people in this country belonging to a cult.

    Can we try the drinking poison part?

  76. 76.

    Schlemazel

    July 17, 2018 at 5:42 pm

    Listened to Nice Polite Republicans on the drive home. They played the lie and then played Dump’s statement from yesterday and pointed out how it is impossible to believe his story today. They also played up the fact that Putin wanted Dump to win in ways so clear even a Teatard would understand. If they have lost NPR the GOP is in big trouble

  77. 77.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    July 17, 2018 at 5:43 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I look at like being in a band. We all have our part to play even though some prefer rock, jazz, blues or country. We’ve got to get through the gig then we can go our separate ways when the job is done.

  78. 78.

    hueyplong

    July 17, 2018 at 5:44 pm

    @chopper: Oh, shit, wasn’t my not bad.

  79. 79.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 17, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    In addition to not calling the attack on our democracy, meddling can we drop the moniker GOP for the Republican party. They are not grand, neither are they the oldest party in this country. Traitortots are not deserving of that name. Why call them grand when they go about insulting Ds by calling them Democrat party.

  80. 80.

    different-church-lady

    July 17, 2018 at 5:45 pm

    @hedgehog mobile: Hey, they just admitted Trump is criminal. Progress.

  81. 81.

    Yarrow

    July 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.): Yes, it’s a cult. We should be looking at cult deprogramming techniques to deal with the aftermath.

  82. 82.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 5:47 pm

    @Schlemazel: That’s promising. NPR is often too timid. Something put steel in their spine.

  83. 83.

    SFAW

    July 17, 2018 at 5:49 pm

    @HeleninEire:

    He has NO CLUE what a double negative is.

    I believe the proper conjugation (so to speak) of that sentence should be something like “He doesn’t not have no clue about not what a double negative isn’t. Not.”

  84. 84.

    Ruckus

    July 17, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    @germy:
    Libs have never seen anyone run in reverse so haphazardly, so out of control, so moronically, with their head so far up their own ass that they define a Mobius and still had the balls to accept the help of an enemy country to be elected to a position he is totally unable to understand or fill.

  85. 85.

    SFAW

    July 17, 2018 at 5:52 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    But having the scales fall from his eyes has been useful. He was rather early in his Trump disdain, so credit where it is due, although that doesn’t mean we develop amnesia about this other awful stuff either.

    He’s only dropped a few positions on the tumbrel list, he hasn’t been stricken from the list altogether. On the plus side, he’s only about half as smart as he thinks he is, even if his vocabulary is larger than most Rethug morons.

  86. 86.

    Yarrow

    July 17, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    Something called the “Judicial Crisis Network” is running a lot of commercials telling people to call their Senators and tell them to confirm Kavanaugh. All it’s making me do is remember to call and tell them not to confirm him. Every judicial appointment by this traitor should be halted immediately and previous ones should be questioned.

    Wonder if his support isn’t very strong. Why are they running ads so soon?

  87. 87.

    Jay

    July 17, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):

    It’s not a third.

    44.3% of the electorate didn’t/couldn’t vote.

    Only 25.67% of the electorate voted for Treason Tribble Трамп.

  88. 88.

    SFAW

    July 17, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    @hedgehog mobile:

    Unfriended someone on Facebook who announced that “Clinton is just as criminal as Trump”. Fucking done with willful stupidity.

    Is there a way to nuke them remotely, via Facebook? Not a user, asking for a friend, etc.

    One hopes you were more uncivil than Enhanced Voting Techniques was recently. (From a story he/she told in an earlier thread.)

  89. 89.

    Roger Moore

    July 17, 2018 at 5:56 pm

    @Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (formerly Mumphrey, et al.):
    The idea that the Republican Party is now a cult is not particularly new. People have been talking about the cult of Trump for a while now. What I would suggest, though, is that it being a cult is also not new. There was a conscious effort to turn Reagan into a cult figure after his term, especially with the Reagan Legacy Project, which tried to guarantee there was at least one major public landmark in each county named after him.

    The big thing is that Reagan was the perfect choice for this kind of thing. He had been very popular, but after he retired he was either suffering from Alzheimer’s or dead, so he was in no position to contradict the image they were making for him. Unfortunately, a cult with a dead cult figure and a cabal trying to manipulate its members behind the scenes is ripe for usurpation. Trump was able to walk in and take the whole thing over.

  90. 90.

    debbie

    July 17, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    @germy:

    I know the speed of Trump. The speed of a tortoise. I’ve seen him waddling across the WH lawn.

  91. 91.

    RSA

    July 17, 2018 at 6:03 pm

    It’s an extended Wayne’s World tactic. Say something stupid and treasonous, wait 24 hours, then… “Not!”

  92. 92.

    Quinerly

    July 17, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    Very interesting……
    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/07/trump-putin-press-conference-transcript/565385/

  93. 93.

    SFAW

    July 17, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    @chopper:

    just add a negative in there.

    No, I won’t. Or, perhaps: No, I won’t not add no negative.

  94. 94.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    @Elizabelle: You’re referring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons ?

  95. 95.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 6:05 pm

    @Roger Moore: That reminds me. Once Democrats control the House and Senate, I think we should ask Ron Jr. and Patti Davis to request that DC’s airport’s name be changed back to Washington National Airport. It is descriptive — it serves DC — and honors our first president.

    Nancy Reagan is dead and buried. DC area citizens never asked to have their airport named for Ronald Reagan. That was bullied upon us by GOP in Congress, especially Bob Barr.

    Change the airport’s name back to its perfectly good name. Times change.

  96. 96.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    @Dev Null: Never heard of it before, but what fun.

    Now it would be the Rascal-Scooter Marching Morons. Home sitting on their asses, in front of the TV/computer.

    Those jackasses don’t march, properly, for anything.

  97. 97.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 17, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    @debbie: Tortoises (not the one in the Senate) are wise, remember the old fable about the hare and the tortoise. Speed of T is like a lumbering bulbous garden sloth.

  98. 98.

    MisterForkbeard

    July 17, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    @SFAW: …actually, sorta? You can report them for having a “fake” name, and their account may be suspended until that’s verified or they change it.

    Otherwise, you can report them for abuse or threats. Historically, Facebook doesn’t follow through on those.

  99. 99.

    trollhattan

    July 17, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    O/T Optics–how the fvck do they work?

    The owner of the Mandalay Bay hotel in Las Vegas has filed a lawsuit against more than 1,000 victims of a mass shooting that killed 58 people in 2017. The MGM Resorts International’s lawsuit does not seek money and appears to be a judicial bid to avoid liability and dismiss claims against it.

    A lawyer for several victims called the lawsuit “outrageous” and “verging on unethical”, according to US reports.

    MGM Resorts International filed complaints in Nevada and California, arguing it could not be held liable for any deaths, injuries or damages caused during the attack. “Plaintiffs have no liability of any kind to defendants,” the complaints argue.

    It says the security company it hired was certified by the Department of Homeland Security and was therefore protected from liability under a 2002 federal act. MGM argues that this protection extends to the hotel giant, as it hired the security firm. A spokesperson for MGM said in a statement it was not suing victims for any money and was sympathetic.

    “Years of drawn out litigation and hearings are not in the best interest of the victims, the community and those still healing,” Debra DeShong said on Monday.

    Lawyers for victims said MGM was apparently trying to get the case heard in federal courts instead of state courts as this might give it a better chance of victory.

  100. 100.

    ewrunning

    July 17, 2018 at 6:10 pm

    @schrodingers_cat – Whenever someone uses “Democrat Party” on me, I immediately say something about the Publican Party.

  101. 101.

    les

    July 17, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    @kindness:

    But in this case these despicables are rooting for Putin to win.

    They get it–Russia is the land of their dreams. No blacks, no homos, women know their place. Somebody publishes fake news–kill ’em. Somebody runs against dear leader–lock ’em up. It’s the land Trump’s base dreams of. Of course they’re rooting for Putin and of course they love that Trump sucks up to him.

  102. 102.

    maya

    July 17, 2018 at 6:12 pm

    @Yarrow:

    Something called the “Judicial Crisis Network” is running a lot of commercials telling people to call their Senators and tell them to confirm Kavanaugh.

    Thar she blows…….. Judicial Crisis Actors.

  103. 103.

    The Ancient Randonneur

    July 17, 2018 at 6:13 pm

    @SFAW: .

    Why bother? Just be done with them and move on to more positive things.

  104. 104.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:14 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    What this is is a cult. I don’t know what we do about it, or how we deal with having a third of the people in this country belonging to a cult.

    Can we try the drinking poison part?

    er, if it’s all the same to you, I’d rather that they drink poison.

    Maybe that’s just me, but it’s my story and I’m sticking with it.

  105. 105.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    @Elizabelle: Very famous in its day. I found it incredibly depressing.

  106. 106.

    Yarrow

    July 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm

    @Elizabelle: Agreed. I always call it Washington National, as it should be called.

  107. 107.

    A Ghost To Most

    July 17, 2018 at 6:15 pm


    Mueller is seeking immunity for 5 mystery witnesses against Paul Manafort

    Any guesses?

  108. 108.

    Mart

    July 17, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    He also meant to say he does not not like NATO and he does not want Russia in Ukraine. They also meant to not change the Republican Pres Conventiin wording to being pro Russia and anti NATO. And the press wants us to believe that this issue just started yesterday.

  109. 109.

    les

    July 17, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    That’s promising. NPR is often too timid. Something put steel in their spine.

    Not too much. Yesterday in an interview on how awful the summit was, little Mary Louise Kelly excused it with “well, he didn’t announce pulling out of NATO.”

  110. 110.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:16 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: I thought the name had been changed to Gross Old Perverts, by unanimous vote.

  111. 111.

    Roger Moore

    July 17, 2018 at 6:18 pm

    @A Ghost To Most:

    Any guesses?

    Gates is a gimme.

  112. 112.

    geg6

    July 17, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    @JPL:

    She’s awful. I do not understand what she is doing on my tv. Bimbo factor, I guess. Even the liberal MSNBC.

  113. 113.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    July 17, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    @Elizabelle: Thanks. This is someone who voted third party and was very righteous about it. If I’d’ been smart I would have posted the XKCD cartoon about free speech in the comments before I hit “unfriend.”
    @SFAW: Sadly, I was civil–I just unfriended with no comment. I was pissed off enough I couldn’t come up with anything more than ARGHLELFARG.
    @different-church-lady: Bwaha!

  114. 114.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    @les: I do not like Mary Louise Kelly. Both sides supreme. Not a good journalist.

  115. 115.

    El Caganer

    July 17, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    @ewrunning: Actually, a Publican Party might be pretty cool.

  116. 116.

    Redshift

    July 17, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    I can see why it had to be a recorded statement – if any non-Trumpster was present for it, they would have asked the obvious “so does this mean you also meant the opposite of believing Putin’s strong denial?”

    Also, Michelangelo Signoreli on Sirius was saying that there was a line in Trump’s prepared remarks that anyone involved in election meddling should be prosecuted (or maybe just held accountable), and he skipped it.

  117. 117.

    Gelfling 545

    July 17, 2018 at 6:21 pm

    @debbie: “if I had just punched him in the belly.”
    Oh,well. Next time.

  118. 118.

    les

    July 17, 2018 at 6:23 pm

    @Elizabelle: I agree, she’s awful. I nearly included a nasty sexist word in my comment. She rivals Inskeep.

  119. 119.

    John Fremont

    July 17, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    @Roger Moore: And the main Tattered Cover down on East Colfax is next to a very good music store Twist and Shout Records!

  120. 120.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 17, 2018 at 6:24 pm

    So I had the pleasure of talking to a Manhattan media employment lawyer today, if you define “pleasure” as having to stifle the urge to buy a plane ticket to LaGuardia so that I can go to this guy’s office to beat him to death with a baseball bat.

    I feel like it’s genetic with these people – draft an onerous piece of shit exclusive service contract which pays peanuts to 20 somethings and then shriek “THAT’S THE CONTRACT THEY SIGNED” when they quit the shitty industry in misery and announce that they’re leaving to go do anything else.

    Fucker. He threw a pair of deuces down while assuming that a Kentucky judge is going to sign an order that a girl under 30 can perform no labor for anybody for the next two years. Asshole has no idea who he’s dealing with, nor what the local climate is.

  121. 121.

    Citizen_X

    July 17, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    @Mart:

    He also meant to say he does not not like NATO and he does not want Russia in Ukraine.

    That’s the thing: changing the meaning of that one sentence does not change the meaning of the rest of the press conference. The reversed sentence would have made no sense, being contradicted by everything else he said.

  122. 122.

    Jeffro

    July 17, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Once Democrats control the House and Senate, I think we should ask Ron Jr. and Patti Davis to request that DC’s airport’s name be changed back to Washington National Airport.

    AY-MEN

    Although if it’s “Reagan”, that means I get to keep tweaking Republican friends and relatives by describing how my recent trip through National or DCA went…

    …hey, I’ll grow up when they quit calling it the Democrat Party ;)

  123. 123.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter:

    @Elizabelle: Thanks. This is someone who voted third party and was very righteous about it. If I’d’ been smart I would have posted the XKCD cartoon about free speech in the comments before I hit “unfriend.”

    I don’t mind the libertarian voters so much. They’re mostly awful, but they’re (usually) not self-righteous about it.

    But the Jillies… ugh. I can’t truthfully say that my Jillie acquaintances all still think that HRC would have been worse than Трамп … because I haven’t talked to them in a very long time.

  124. 124.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 17, 2018 at 6:26 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Bold move, Cotton. Let’s see how that works for them.

  125. 125.

    Schlemazel

    July 17, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    @Elizabelle:
    Yeah, that is what I thought. Both-siderism may finally be dead

  126. 126.

    TS (the original)

    July 17, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    American Presidents do NOT misspeak – especially when meeting with leaders of other countries. trump should be impeached and/or charged with treason for how he behaved over the past week. I found his interchange with the nato leaders disgusting in the extreme and followed by fawning over Putin – don’t know whether to laugh or cry

    I listened to President Obama from beginning to end – even when he went off the script, he spoke as a President – and 90% of the speech was directed at what the yellow blob is doing to our world.

  127. 127.

    debbie

    July 17, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    @schrodingers_cat:

    Yes, that is a far better choice.

  128. 128.

    JPL

    July 17, 2018 at 6:29 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: fucker.. get him.

  129. 129.

    Barbara

    July 17, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    @Dev Null: I don’t see how anyone who has watched immigrants being hounded, hunted, and demonized by Trump can still think that their vote for a third party candidate could be justified in any way. They ended up being objectively on the side of hurting vulnerable people and if they can’t see that, they are as narcissistic as Trump.

  130. 130.

    Barbara

    July 17, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    @TS (the original): Trump is simply used to being bailed out when he makes stupid decisions so he doesn’t really care about consequences.

  131. 131.

    Mike in NC

    July 17, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Fat Bastard should capitalize on his amazing wins with Kim and Putin by pressuring the Iranian government to grant him a one-on-one sit down with Ayatollah Khomeni.

  132. 132.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    @Barbara: I agree, but as said, I don’t know how they feel today.

    Self-righteousness is a powerful drug.

    The funny thing is, one of my Jillie acquaintances is an immigrant who recently became a citizen, so he might have had second thoughts.

    Anyway, libertarians of my acquaintance don’t seem especially self-righteous, so less righteousness to have to tolerate.

    And a few of my libertarian buds are remarkably sensible. Well, if you overlook “libertarian”. :-)

    Plus, none of them live in states where their 3rd party vote mattered. :-)

  133. 133.

    Jay

    July 17, 2018 at 6:48 pm

    @Barbara:

    Yup, but they arn’t watching. Their “beautiful minds” have “better things” to think about, like the most recent Russian “whataboutism” ajitprop,

  134. 134.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 6:49 pm

    ZOMG. Another College Republican.

    Is there some reason we can’t take them all out and shoot them?

    Asking for a friend, of course.

  135. 135.

    Millard Filmore

    July 17, 2018 at 6:52 pm

    @Schlemazel:

    Listened to Nice Polite Republicans on the drive home.

    Yesterday the NPR talking heads were voicing concerns about whether Trump was in treason territory. Jeepers, The MSM is saying the US president might be a traitor. Trump has crossed his bright red line. There is no walking this back, no polishing this up, no papering over, no graceful exit, no fading the memory, no escape.

  136. 136.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    July 17, 2018 at 6:57 pm

    @Dev Null: IIRC, this person was a Jillie. No, Reasoning. With. Them.
    Gah.
    O/T–Thanks, John, for this community. It’s kept me sane.
    Looking forward to the Denver jackal gathering later tonight. (And Happy Belated Birthday to Amir!)

  137. 137.

    Neldob

    July 17, 2018 at 7:03 pm

    @Quinerly: Looks like it’s infrastructure week in Jerusalem, or year. Just not here. So it goes.

  138. 138.

    Scamp Dog

    July 17, 2018 at 7:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Welcome! I’ll see you in a few hours at Wynkoop!

  139. 139.

    Steve in the STL

    July 17, 2018 at 7:14 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: hubris in a Manhattan lawyer? Color me shocked!

  140. 140.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 17, 2018 at 7:21 pm

    @Barbara:

    I don’t see how anyone who has watched immigrants being hounded, hunted, and demonized by Trump can still think that their vote for a third party candidate could be justified in any way.

    They blame Democrats. I’ve watched them do it. The most popular is ‘This is all because you didn’t nominate Sanders’, but they go much, much farther right out into Bizarro World saying things like Schumer and Nancy are responsible for Russian meddling not being investigated, and that 5-4 decisions by the conservatives on the Supreme Court are a demonstration of how neoliberal Democrats want to give everything to the rich.

  141. 141.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 17, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    @Steve in the STL:

    I wonder how he thinks that whole “you can’t even work part time in fast food because we paid you the magnificent sum of $40,000 a year for two years under our EXCLUSIVE SERVICES CONTRACT, and owe us two more years of servitude. And we’ll get a judge to enjoin you from working at all.”

    Shit, if that were true, I’d buy her a Bushmaster and provide her with a map to his address and diagram of his Manhattan office, and let the chips fall where they may. It would make the world a far better place.

    Lucky for him, judges probably save his life on a daily basis.

  142. 142.

    Duane

    July 17, 2018 at 7:24 pm

    @TS (the original): Agree 110%. Trumpov’s lame ass “clarification” is unacceptable. He can bully our friends, but confronted by Putin, he tucks tail. He’s a coward. He called the United States foolish. He’s a traitor.
    Obama summed it up today. The world needs to listen.

  143. 143.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 17, 2018 at 7:25 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: * garden slug. Sloths are kinda cute.

  144. 144.

    Ken

    July 17, 2018 at 7:26 pm

    @les:

    Mary Louise Kelly excused it with “well, he didn’t announce pulling out of NATO.”

    Also he didn’t eat any live babies on TV. So really quite a positive outcome.

  145. 145.

    efgoldman

    July 17, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Now it would be the Rascal-Scooter Marching Morons.

    My surgeon and my Occupational Therapist have recommended that I get a scooter instead of horsing the wheelchair around a house that isn’t set up for it.
    Will I turn into a RWNJ when I start using it?

  146. 146.

    schrodingers_cat

    July 17, 2018 at 7:27 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: They blame Obama and both-sides the issue. Comrade GG’s outlet had a couple of articles to that effect.

  147. 147.

    Steve in the STL

    July 17, 2018 at 7:28 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: which state’s law controls? Judges hate those exclusivity provisions and will look for any reason to throw them out.All services of any kind are owned by the media company? Sounds overbroad to me.

  148. 148.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    @Dev Null: And College Republican was about the least of it.

    WRT Paul Erickson, Maria Butina’s pal, Dev’s TPM story:

    Erickson’s ventures have varied between the legitimate and the bizarre, according to a stellar February profile of the Vermillion native in South Dakota’s Rapid City Journal.

    Erickson, who graduated from Yale and University of Virginia Law School, first linked up with now-disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff during their time in the College Republicans. He spent the 1980s and 1990s alternating between working on GOP political campaigns, including Buchanan’s unsuccessful attempt to primary George H.W. Bush, and teaming up with Abramoff on ventures like 1989’s anti-communist action movie “Red Scorpion.”

    One bizarre stint was serving as a media adviser for John Wayne Bobbitt, the Virginia man whose wife, Loretta, chopped his peni$ off with a steak knife. Per contemporaneous news reports, Erickson booked Bobbitt on an international “Love Hurts” tour to help him raise funds. The tour involved media hits on outlets like “The Howard Stern Show” and selling autographed steak knives.

    Yale and UVA Law. Steak knives. You can’t make this stuff up.

  149. 149.

    Elizabelle

    July 17, 2018 at 7:36 pm

    @efgoldman: You better not!

    I think no, the force is strong with you. And Mrs. efg will. not. permit.

  150. 150.

    Damned at Random

    July 17, 2018 at 7:47 pm

    I listen to Hannity from time to time so I can follow the comments on my husband’s facebook (He’s good but he’s been around). Anyhow, I noticed a couple of things-

    1. The announcement at the beginning of his show used to be “This is special episode of the Sean Hannity Show” – which I thought meant it was a rerun (see #2)- and after a while I wondered “Does this SOB ever do a new show”

    2. Like my Mom’s soap operas, you could tune in once or twice a month and miss nothing because of the repetition. He plays the oldies – Bengazi, 33000 emails, Bill Ayers – and occasionally adds a new meme – Strzok, the servers – so you get used to it and are triggered by the opening chords.

    Is 3 still a couple?

    #3 He is having a hell of a midlife crisis. It would be sad if he wasn’t such an arrogant prick

  151. 151.

    J R in WV

    July 17, 2018 at 7:51 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Just don’t watch TV while sitting in it. Or listen to Lush Rimbaugh.

    Keep in touch!

    More practical advice: Always Do What the Surgeon and Physical Therapist Tell You To Do!

  152. 152.

    joel hanes

    July 17, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    @HeleninEire:

    He has NO CLUE what a double negative is.

    Interestingly, it works differently in the Russian language,
    in which a double negative is still negative.
    Ex. the common (bad transliteration follows, sorry)
    Ya nichevo nye znayiu ob etom
    Я ничего не знаю об этом
    Literally “I don’t know nothing about that”
    Means “I don’t know anything about that”

    Perhaps Donny Boy is getting some extracurricular help with his rhetoric assignments ?

  153. 153.

    joel hanes

    July 17, 2018 at 8:01 pm

    help help comment in moderation, perhaps for text in Cyrilic

  154. 154.

    joel hanes

    July 17, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    ‘I know what you’re thinking about,’ said Tweedledum; ‘but it isn’t so, nohow.’
    ‘Contrariwise,’ continued Tweedledee, ‘if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn’t, it ain’t. That’s logic.’

  155. 155.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    @schrodingers_cat: Missed that, but sloths are slow too.

    And way cute, as you say. :-)

  156. 156.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 8:37 pm

    @Ken: What’s not to like? /snark

  157. 157.

    Dev Null

    July 17, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    @Elizabelle: And Bobbitt.

    The Sim operator has jumped the shark, and is toying with us …

    … but you knew that.

  158. 158.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 17, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    @Steve in the STL:

    Kentucky – my judges won’t be kind.

  159. 159.

    JAFD

    July 17, 2018 at 10:14 pm

    @efgoldman: A: No
    B: The bloomin’ ads for these scooters on the ‘old folks’ TV programs say “We’ll send you a brochure, and the forms to get Medicare to pay for it…”
    C: I live in a ‘senior citizens’ Section 221 (IIRC) apartment building, which is, I think, it’s own precinct. Quite a few residents with ‘scooters’. Think a solid majority of D voters. Can get the vote totals if you really want.

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