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You are here: Home / Politics / Activist Judges! / C.R.E.A.M. Open Thread: Manafort Trial, Day Two

C.R.E.A.M. Open Thread: Manafort Trial, Day Two

by Anne Laurie|  August 1, 201810:49 pm| 28 Comments

This post is in: Activist Judges!, C.R.E.A.M., Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel

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Day Two: The Judge In Paul Manafort's Case Is Pissed At Prosecutors For Focusing Too Much On His "Luxury" Lifestyle https://t.co/1I4l2N46A6 pic.twitter.com/L5utMRVh8A

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 1, 2018

… Prosecutors have countered that the evidence about Manafort’s lifestyle is relevant because it goes toward showing how much income he was bringing in during the years in question — income that Manafort is charged with underreporting in his income tax returns.

Manafort is facing 18 counts in Virginia, including filing false income tax returns, failing to report foreign bank accounts, and bank fraud. He is separately facing charges in the US District Court for the District of Columbia; that trial is scheduled to start in September.

On Wednesday morning, the jury heard from Daniel Rabin, a political media consultant who testified that he worked with Manafort in Ukraine to produce dozens of television ads. Before Rabin took the stand, Ellis questioned how much evidence prosecutors needed to put into the record to establish that Manafort did, in fact, do a lot of work in Ukraine — that wasn’t contested, the judge said. Ellis on Tuesday also questioned the amount of evidence prosecutors were asking to put before the jury detailing the extent of Manafort’s work in Ukraine.

The jury heard from FBI Special Agent Matthew Mikuska, who was involved in the search of Manafort’s condo in Alexandria. The judge appeared agitated as Assistant US Attorney Uzo Asonye asked Mikuska to read the contents of documents that agents seized, saying the agent didn’t know anything about the substance of the documents, only that they were found in Manafort’s home.

Mikuska described Manafort’s property as a “luxury” unit, estimating it was about 2,000 square feet. Asonye highlighted a series of documents agents seized from the condo, including financial statements with the names of accounts in Cyprus that prosecutors claim Manafort controlled and failed to report to US authorities, and invoices for home renovations at properties Manafort owned in New York and Florida.

As Asonye had Mikuska describe documents that referred to Manafort’s longtime associate Rick Gates, Ellis questioned why that was necessary, since Gates was expected to testify. (Gates was originally charged with Manafort last fall, but later pleaded guilty and agreed to cooperate with Mueller’s office.) Asonye said there was a chance Gates wouldn’t testify, prompting a stir in the courtroom — much of Manafort’s defense is about blaming Gates for any financial issues, per the opening statement Tuesday from Manafort’s team.

Asonye clarified that as evidence came in, the government was evaluating all of its witnesses, not just Gates…

Protip: don’t roll your eyes. An unctuous shit-eating grin is the safest way to mock a judge.

“why yes, certainly, Your Honor.”https://t.co/OIiPJ5q2Hn

— QHatSecretMessages (@Popehat) August 1, 2018

I agree that that's inappropriate behavior, but I also think it's freakin' hilarious that Manafort's own lawyers are among those doing it. That's gotta make him feel better as he sits in his jail cell.

— SpideyTerry (@SpideyTerry) August 1, 2018

Good profile of Judge Ellis, now presiding over the Manafort trial. I had some hearings before Ellis way back when I was a Special AUSA, and he was tough on lawyers but also super sharp. https://t.co/ND18Y9WTXb

— Orin Kerr (@OrinKerr) August 1, 2018


…As the federal judge in Alexandria oversees the trial of President Trump’s onetime campaign chairman on tax and bank fraud charges, his sharp demeanor comes as no surprise to lawyers who appear before him often.

“He has torn my head off in front of my wife multiple times,” said Kevin Mikolashek, who recently left the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Alexandria to start his own consulting firm.

With degrees from Princeton, Harvard and Oxford and 31 years on the bench, Ellis is formidably sharp. And although he might scold prosecutors for not meeting his high standards, in trials Ellis often uses his intellect to their benefit.

“It’s important for him that everyone in the courtroom knows he is the smartest person in that courtroom, and just be aware that he usually is,” defense lawyer John Zwerling says he warns lawyers who are new to the District. “So you better be on your A game.”

Ellis regularly interrupts trial testimony with his own questions and demands that certain lines of inquiry be cut short, clearing up ambiguity that defense attorneys hoped to create. More than one lawyer has tried to block him from doing so with pretrial motions or mid-case demands for a mistrial. Several have appealed to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 4th Circuit, arguing that Ellis’s interventions made a fair trial impossible.

The appeals court has repeatedly struck down those claims, saying Ellis’s questions were posed in the service of clarity…

In sentencing hearings, Ellis preaches a gospel of personal responsibility, giving the same speech to every guilty party, from American Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh to a low-level drug dealer: “Life is making choices and living with the consequences of the choices we make.”…

Sounds like Trump’s worst nightmare, doesn’t he?

When you're trying a "paper case" and you've got all the paper, there ain't a lot to debate.

Paulie Walnuts could be toting around his first set of convictions with two weeks.

That may not sway Manafort to flip – yet – but it's sure gonna send a message to other Trumpies. https://t.co/g90AY40tzq

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) August 1, 2018

We've wrapped up for the day (early!) One significant thing from the govt: They say they're ahead of schedule (the judge has *really* been pushing them to be speedy), and expect to finish up their case in chief next week.

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) August 1, 2018

In fairness, that wasn't an entirely cockamamie scheme.

— (((drbloor))) (@docbloor) August 2, 2018

“Contributing Editor at National Review”:

"man up and pardon him" pic.twitter.com/tnjj758d4k

— Foe to Princes ? (@ifthedevilisix) August 2, 2018

A reminder:

As we tuck in for the eve&reflect upon Manafort’s day in court- Let’s remember, In 1980, Manafort &Roger Stone started a lobbying firm.
DJT was 1 of their 1st clients &employed them into the 1990s.
When Manafort joined the campaign, @realDonaldTrump knew EXACTLY who Manafort was

— Stephanie Ruhle (@SRuhle) August 1, 2018

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28Comments

  1. 1.

    MomSense

    August 1, 2018 at 10:53 pm

    Damn why does the fate of the world have to hang on a bunch of lawyers and a cranky judge?

  2. 2.

    Platonailedit

    August 1, 2018 at 10:58 pm

    @MomSense:

    Yup. The ‘fact’ he is a shouty but ‘sharp’ judge is not comforting at all.

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 1, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    IANAL but pretty sure we convict people (like Alphonse Capone!) for throwing around massive amounts of money they didn’t pay massive amounts taxes on. Just for starters.

  4. 4.

    Mike in NC

    August 1, 2018 at 11:00 pm

    Trump says he only met Manafort one time, for lunch at Trump Tower. No more than 30 minutes together (believe me)! Never had another occasion to get together.

  5. 5.

    Platonailedit

    August 1, 2018 at 11:02 pm

    "[Spicer's] 'The Briefing' isn't a political memoir, nor is it a work of recent history, nor a tell-all, not a tell-anything. Rather, it is a bumbling attempt to gaslight Americans into doubting what they have seen with their own eyes."

    https://t.co/IYtJ2TqUdV— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) August 2, 2018

  6. 6.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 1, 2018 at 11:06 pm

    @Platonailedit: Your concern is noted.

  7. 7.

    eponymous

    August 1, 2018 at 11:07 pm

    @Mike in NC: I guess, when all’set said and done, we can group all these trumpies under the name “The Coffee Boys”.

  8. 8.

    Major Major Major Major

    August 1, 2018 at 11:16 pm

    “It’s important for him that everyone in the courtroom knows he is the smartest person in that courtroom”

    Sounds like the judge would be fun at parties.

  9. 9.

    Platonailedit

    August 1, 2018 at 11:20 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: GFY.

  10. 10.

    Bobby Thomson

    August 1, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    I agree with the judge. Technically it’s relevant but it’s really a way to prejudice the jury. The flip side of this is that he’s not going to let Manafort’s lawyers put on a “try the victim” defense like George Zimmerman or an O.J. defense like Richard Scrushy.

  11. 11.

    James E Powell

    August 1, 2018 at 11:53 pm

    I am a lawyer, but I never did more than a handful of misdemeanor cases. So I have no clue how a filing false tax returns, etc. case is put on. Wouldn’t the subject tax returns be important to get in right away?

  12. 12.

    Jay

    August 1, 2018 at 11:58 pm

    For those wishing that Meuller will jump the gun in time for the Midterms,

    Looks like the Judge is gonna be giving gifts early.

  13. 13.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 2, 2018 at 12:09 am

    Chris Cillizza says Trump is winning this you guys!!!

    (I guess he has one point: many people do seem to think the Mueller investigation is going to end with Trump being indicted for something, and it won’t.)

  14. 14.

    Miss Bianca

    August 2, 2018 at 12:10 am

    @Bobby Thomson:

    Technically it’s relevant but it’s really a way to prejudice the jury.

    And yet, a lot of people from Preznit Trump on down have compared Manfort’s case to Al Capone’s – and pointing out Capone’s lavish lifestyle was one of the ways the prosecution made its case for tax evasion. So, if one of the ways the prosecution is making the case that Manafort had a *lot* more money than he reported, is by reporting on his spending habits, then it’s relevant.

  15. 15.

    Ken

    August 2, 2018 at 12:21 am

    I’ve been struck by the huge amounts spent on “imported” clothing. I’m wondering if they’ve got evidence that it was for money laundering – receive an illegal hundred thousand from source A, and “spend” it buying one suit from source A’s legit company. The suit – if they even bother to ship it – is really a $150 off-the-rack job.

  16. 16.

    burnspbesq

    August 2, 2018 at 12:26 am

    @Platonailedit:

    Yup. The ‘fact’ he is a shouty but ‘sharp’ judge is not comforting at all

    Remind us again of your Federal criminal trial experience, so we can give an appropriate amount of deference to your views.

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 2, 2018 at 12:27 am

    @Ken: The suit – if they even bother to ship it – is really a $150 off-the-rack job.

    I was trying to figure out how you launder money with fancy suits. Somebody on MSNBC was talking about forged invoices, I gather it came up in the trial, so that got me thinking about laundering again

  18. 18.

    Platonailedit

    August 2, 2018 at 12:34 am

    @burnspbesq:

    Remind me again why should I give a fuck about anal retentive lawyers’ views.

  19. 19.

    Mnemosyne

    August 2, 2018 at 12:45 am

    @Platonailedit:

    In this specific case? Because they may have actual relevant experience.

  20. 20.

    MisterForkbeard

    August 2, 2018 at 12:46 am

    @Platonailedit: Presumably lawyers have more experience with judges than you or I do.

  21. 21.

    eemom

    August 2, 2018 at 12:49 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I was trying to figure out how you launder money with fancy suits.

    Cheap suits fold better. Or so I am told. This is confusing.

  22. 22.

    eemom

    August 2, 2018 at 12:54 am

    @Platonailedit:

    why should I give a fuck about anal retentive lawyers’ views.

    Please note that OO is not emblematic of the entire profession.

  23. 23.

    Chetan Murthy

    August 2, 2018 at 12:58 am

    @eemom: And OO is not emblematic of OO, either. He’s often quite nice. Sometimes grumpy, but often quite nice.

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    August 2, 2018 at 1:24 am

    @Matt McIrvin:
    I’m not so sure on that point. As more people around Trump stand trial, more and more damning evidence against him will emerge. It could get difficult for the Republican party to keep defending him. I think it’s conceivable, as a best-case scenario, that ultimately the party may have to choose between him and its own survival; and that (bear with me on this) it is not stupid enough to prefer him.

  25. 25.

    Jay

    August 2, 2018 at 1:30 am

    @eemom:

    You get a bunch of Russian mob money in your offshore account,

    You go to a mob connected business and vastly overpay for tacky crap like $15,000 for an ostrich leather jacket worth $500 retail, $200 wholesale, that actually “fell off the back of the truck”.

    Remember, it’s not “his money”, he’s laundering.

  26. 26.

    jl

    August 2, 2018 at 3:30 am

    ‘man up and pardon him’ That would be a pardon exactly of the kind James Madison said would be worthy of impeachment, conviction and removal. An impeachment won’t happen with GOP Congress, but I imagine a public uproar. If the trial can be wrapped up in two weeks, that is the time horizon for Trump to ‘man up’, but I read that his handlers will keep him busy with 2020 campaign rallies.

    So, I expect a tweet from Trump that a trial based on bogus Deep State paper is unfair, very unfair to Manafort. Just as unfair as what them damn feds did to poor Al Capone. But, it’s Trump so he could go berserk and pardon the crook.

  27. 27.

    hells littlest angel

    August 2, 2018 at 4:16 am

    “We don’t convict people because they have a lot of money to throw around.”

    Uh, you probably could have phrased that better.

  28. 28.

    bjacques

    August 2, 2018 at 9:27 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Better you should dry clean, or else that fancy suit is a write-off.

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