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Open Thread: Florida Man Senator

by Anne Laurie|  February 1, 201911:48 pm| 85 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Clown Shoes

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Rick Scott is just upset because he hasn't yet found a pet store in DC that will sell him a bag of baby mice as a snack. pic.twitter.com/dbQm3xkWij

— Kelsey D. Atherton (@AthertonKD) February 1, 2019

To save you the click: Scott insists, in the teeth of the evidence, that “we” can’t have a budget deal that embraces both Trump’s WAAAHLL and protection of DREAMers because of “irrational and clouded thinking motivated by hate from Democratic leaders in Washington”.

Were I a Floridian, I’d find the lack of baby-mice snack bags less embarrassing an excuse than this piffle!

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  1. 1.

    PaulWartenberg

    February 1, 2019 at 11:55 pm

    I KEPT TRYING TO TELL MY FELLOW FLORIDIANS TO NOT VOTE FOR THAT DOUCHENOZZLE.

    Pardon my yelling.

    The asshole is playing straight from the “always blame Democrats for NOT SURRENDERING TO REPUBLICAN DOMINANCE” guidebook. He’s not saying anything goddamn new. WHY EVEN LET HIM GIVE AN OP-ED THAT IS SO OBVIOUSLY STUPID. /headdesking x infinity

  2. 2.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 1, 2019 at 11:57 pm

    I expect he’ll try to primary the President.

  3. 3.

    Sebastian

    February 1, 2019 at 11:58 pm

    I bet you all the money in my pocket that Scott has some ratfucking evidence on Stone’s hard drives.

  4. 4.

    John Revolta

    February 2, 2019 at 12:00 am

    Because when I want economic advice, I’m naturally gonna go to the guy who presided over the biggest Medicare fraud in history.

  5. 5.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 2, 2019 at 12:03 am

    Pure projection on Scott’s part.

    The people of Florida are, it seems, dominated by the stupid for electing this fucking con man to any office, let alone US Senator. He and his wife should both be languishing in prison for Medicare fraud.

  6. 6.

    The Dangerman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:05 am

    Was he unhappy his Tumbrel Number was too low?

    Apparently they want one party rule but that always ends badly (see Ceausescu, et al).

  7. 7.

    Yarrow

    February 2, 2019 at 12:06 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I thought the Republicans passed some rule or something that said no one can primary Trump.

  8. 8.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:08 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: Because of the mail bombing spree, more absentee ballots than the margin of difference in the election were locked down in the south Florida mail processing facility through which they were shipped as part of the investigation. Because of how Florida law is written, it doesn’t matter when they’re post marked, as in all before election day, they had to be received by close of polls on election day. The facility didn’t reopen until after election day, the absentee ballots were not delivered on time, and, as a result, were never counted. Given the counties they were from, Miami-Dade and Broward, it is entirely likely that Bill Nelson should actually still be Florida’s senior senator.

  9. 9.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    February 2, 2019 at 12:11 am

    Hey give Scott credit, at least he didn’t say “Democrat leadership”.

  10. 10.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    February 2, 2019 at 12:12 am

    @Yarrow:
    The RNC did. I don’t think that can bar anybody from mounting an independent run however.

  11. 11.

    HumboldtBlue

    February 2, 2019 at 12:12 am

    I noticed Silverman was having angsty flashbacks down below.

    How about a marching band that comes in sassy and then just makes you sing, sing, sing.

  12. 12.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:12 am

    @Yarrow: The RNC passed a resolution of support for the President. They’ve also officially merged themselves, for the presidential election part of 2020, with the Trump 2020 reelection campaign organization. That said, all that resolution does is make it hard for a Republican to primary him because the resolution means that the RNC will only provide support to the President for his reelection. So the normal way this would work, with the party staying out of things until the nominee was selected, is not happening. That won’t stop Scott. He’s got the money to do whatever he wants no matter what the RNC does.

  13. 13.

    Yarrow

    February 2, 2019 at 12:12 am

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: But they couldn’t primary him, which is what Adam suggested.

  14. 14.

    Raoul

    February 2, 2019 at 12:13 am

    Read Rick Wilson in today’s WaPo, and skip right past this fellow Floridian.

  15. 15.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 2, 2019 at 12:15 am

    I see he still seems nice.

  16. 16.

    Yarrow

    February 2, 2019 at 12:15 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Well, if Trump and Pence aren’t in office then we’ll see what happens.

  17. 17.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    February 2, 2019 at 12:18 am

    @Yarrow:
    Adam’s answer about sums it up. They’ll basically have to go the indie route, still running as a Republican in the primaries. I think.

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He’s going the money to do whatever he wants no matter what the RNC does.

    Thanks to Citizens United, the RNC has been increasingly losing control of this process.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:18 am

    @Yarrow: He can be primaried. The RNC will simply not stay neutral. So any primary challenger will be fighting both the President and his campaign and the RNC, which is now, because of the resolution, just an extension of the President and his campaign.

  19. 19.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 12:19 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    So if the Trump campaign organization (not just the Trump Organization) gets caught up in RICO (say it three times and PopeHat appears) then the RNC is automatically busted, too?

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:19 am

    @??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??: I only wrote about that here back in the Spring of 2016 as part of the Trump Doctrine analysis. Republicans fought for Citizens United. It then hollowed out the party and basically made it a party in name only.

  21. 21.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:24 am

    @Sebastian:

    IT'S NOT RICO. IT'S NEVER RICO.

    — AccomplishedTheHat (@Popehat) July 30, 2015

  22. 22.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 12:25 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Well played, Doctor. Well played.

  23. 23.

    clay

    February 2, 2019 at 12:27 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Does the RNC realize that Trump’s campaign will grift them for all they’re worth, and leave virtually nothing for them to put into Congressional, Senatorial, and Gubernatorial races, since he cares nothing about whether anyone other than himself is elected?

  24. 24.

    SiubhanDuinne

    February 2, 2019 at 12:27 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The RNC passed a resolution of support for the President. They’ve also officially merged themselves, for the presidential election part of 2020, with the Trump 2020 reelection campaign organization. That said, all that resolution does is make it hard for a Republican to primary him because the resolution means that the RNC will only provide support to the President for his reelection. So the normal way this would work, with the party staying out of things until the nominee was selected, is not happening.

    And yet they were all aghast that in 2016 the DNC “had their thumb on the scale for Hillary.”

    Constant, hypocritical projection. It is to laugh.

  25. 25.

    MisterForkbeard

    February 2, 2019 at 12:28 am

    because of “irrational and clouded thinking motivated by hate from Democratic leaders in Washington”.

    “Democrats have this irrational belief that reality and decisions should be made based on facts, not blind racism and being nice to the Sundown President.”

  26. 26.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:30 am

    @clay: He made the RNC chair drop her maiden name as a way to demonstrate dominance over both her and her uncle.

  27. 27.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 12:32 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Ok but now seriously, Trump capaign org will be entangled in a sea of sleaze and criminal behavior. How will the RNC survive this?

  28. 28.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:33 am

    @SiubhanDuinne: Consistency, hobgoblins, little minds.

  29. 29.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:34 am

    @Sebastian: The RNC survived Karl Rove. It survived Nixon. Like twinkies and mutated cockroaches, it’ll survive the nuclear holocaust.

  30. 30.

    Yarrow

    February 2, 2019 at 12:34 am

    @Adam L Silverman: So what he’s saying is, it might be RICO.

  31. 31.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:39 am

    @Yarrow: Just like lupus, it’s never lupus and it’s never RICO.

    I once cracked up a physicians assistant. I was having some testing done as they were trying to rule out an issue. She asked me about lupus and I immediately said: I’ve seen every episode of House, it’s not lupus, it’s never lupus!”. Several minutes later, once she was done cracking up with laughter, we continued.

  32. 32.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 2, 2019 at 12:40 am

    @Adam L Silverman: She may of done that voluntarily, we are talking Mitt here.

  33. 33.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 2, 2019 at 12:43 am

    I got my walk in before the rain started, apparently Judith is having a b-day, it was on the marque at the Alex Theater.

  34. 34.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:44 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: It was widely reported that the President made it clear she had to change her name if she was going to become the RNC chair. And that he did so to humiliate Mitt and subjugate her. Basic dominance in general and dominance politics in specific behavior.

  35. 35.

    Yarrow

    February 2, 2019 at 12:46 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I know someone who has lupus so sometimes it is lupus. Which sucks to have, so count yourself lucky.

  36. 36.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 2, 2019 at 12:46 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Like twinkies and mutated cockroaches, it’ll survive the nuclear holocaust.

    I thought that Twinkies just caused you to kill people.

  37. 37.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    February 2, 2019 at 12:47 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    And that he did so to humiliate Mitt

    Here’s the problem, Mitt enjoys that.

  38. 38.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:48 am

    @Yarrow: I used to date a woman with lupus. I know lupus exists, is real, and what it can do to a person. I was merely riffing off of the quote from the TV show.

  39. 39.

    Kdaug

    February 2, 2019 at 12:54 am

    Wait, hold up. I’m now getting banner ads about “cool and persuasive”?

    I’m all about site redesign and whatnot, but you likely want to target your audience more carefully.

    Otherwise, go team.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    February 2, 2019 at 12:54 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: What Mitt does, as a consenting adult, is none of my business provided everyone else is consenting as well.

  41. 41.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 12:54 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I wish you weren’t but you are right.

  42. 42.

    Steve Crickmore

    February 2, 2019 at 12:56 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: It was not only Medicare Fraud…A Justice Department spokeswoman said that officials refer to Columbia/HCA as “largest health care fraud” ever at that time (it has since been superceded), rather than the more narrow term “Medicare fraud” because it involved overbilling and defrauding other government programs such as Medicaid rather than Medicare exclusively.

  43. 43.

    Kdaug

    February 2, 2019 at 1:00 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Deeper. What prevents a third party candidate? A fourth? A fifth?

    Things get out of control. That’s the issue.

  44. 44.

    BruceFromOhio

    February 2, 2019 at 1:07 am

    Irrational and clouded thinking motivated by hate is not a bug, it’s a feature based on the requirements.

    Like, duh.

  45. 45.

    smike

    February 2, 2019 at 1:17 am

    @HumboldtBlue:
    Well, thanks – just like that, I lost 1/2 hour. Watched the one in Pasedena, too. Wow.

  46. 46.

    plato

    February 2, 2019 at 1:17 am

    BREAKING: Tonight the Trump administration filed documents that don’t dispute the recent report that there may have been thousands more separated kids. They’re arguing it would take too long to figure out where those kids are because they have no tracking system.— ACLU (@ACLU) February 2, 2019

    Criminal negligence and child abuse on top of every other conceivable crime.

    Well done, working class white folks.

  47. 47.

    Mary G

    February 2, 2019 at 1:18 am

    This guy.

    Oof. Hearing during Governor’s meeting with black caucus tonight he could not remember if he was in the blackface or in the KKK hood.— Ben Tribbett (@notlarrysabato) February 2, 2019

    Proposing that if Northam's resignation does come in under 2 PM tomorrow, making it under 24 hours from when the photo first hit the internet, that the "Northam" becomes the new time unit of political annihilation, replacing the "Scaramucci" https://t.co/8jiWMvJxQa— Zandar Enjoys Muellered Cider (@ZandarVTS) February 2, 2019

  48. 48.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 1:25 am

    @Mary G:

    he could not remember if he was in the blackface or in the KKK hood

    You got to be fucking kidding me.

  49. 49.

    Major Major Major Major

    February 2, 2019 at 1:37 am

    @Adam L Silverman: I believe there is one episode where it is lupus. Everybody learns a valuable lesson about judicious use of the word ‘never.’

  50. 50.

    Ruckus

    February 2, 2019 at 1:50 am

    @Sebastian:
    I don’t think Mary G would ever fucking kid you about something like that.

  51. 51.

    CZAnne

    February 2, 2019 at 2:03 am

    Update, Brooke, in Savannah:

    Brooke officially died yesterday at 10 am. She was 14 years, 10 months, 2 weeks. She died of massive brain and spinal trauma caused by the collision of an SUV with a Polaris ATV/utility vehicle at a dark, unlit intersection. The other 3 kids and the SUV driver in the accident survived. That’s a mess, for law enforcement. It’s not for me to comment.

    She took her final trip to the OR tonight about 7 pm. She signed her own donor card when she was a little more than 12. She made that decision, because she was kind, and thoughtful, and she never met a stranger. She just thought someone should have the parts she wasn’t gonna use anymore. Her corneas, her heart, her liver, one kidney, her pancreas – they’ll all help others. That’s who she was.

    IF you have not signed your own donor and tissue card: I can tell you now, having witnessed the nurses keep her breathing until her heart could be scheduled and the OR came open — organ donation does not shorten your life. It truly does not, not by one second. In fact, more of her friends and family had time to say goodbye to her body, because we gave her organs.

    I loved this girl, and so did everyone who ever met her.

    In her honor: Seatbelts. Helmets. Donor cards.
    And the Savannah-Chatham STEM Academy. I met so many of her friends today — she was surrounded by brilliance and generosity and the best kind of egalitarian equity. These kids will change the world if we give them half a chance.
    http://internet.savannah.chatham.k12.ga.us/schools/STEM/default.aspx

    I’ll be around more tomorrow. It’s been a long, kind of awful day.

    (BTW: Tryp by Windham, in downtown Savannah: 15/10 endorse. Still can’t comment on food. Though University Memorial has pretty good French fries, because I had to get food into Niece the Younger, R. Who picked bacon cheese & fries. That kiddo’s doing better than her parents. I’m gonna borrow her for DragonCon, I think.)

    (Also, how do you sea level people chew this air before you breathe it?)

  52. 52.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 2:09 am

    @Ruckus:

    That was commonly used expression of disbelief.

  53. 53.

    Sebastian

    February 2, 2019 at 2:13 am

    @CZAnne:

    Please accept my sincerest condolences CZAnne. My heart goes out to you.

  54. 54.

    Kdaug

    February 2, 2019 at 2:22 am

    @CZAnne: No better way to go.

    Thank you, Savannah

  55. 55.

    Mnemosyne

    February 2, 2019 at 2:31 am

    @CZAnne:

    I’m so sorry for you and your entire family. I found out recently that in California, everyone who receives a donor organ or tissue or even just a ligament is given the opportunity to write a thank-you card to the donor’s family so they know how many people were helped by their family member’s donation. If they have a program like that in her state, I hope your niece’s parents are able to find some small comfort in knowing that her death helped other people live.

  56. 56.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    February 2, 2019 at 2:45 am

    @CZAnne: I’m so sorry. What a terrible thing. It’s hard even to be thankful for the organ donation because of the source of it, but I admire her so much for thinking to sign the card at such a young age.

    Just a few months younger than my son. I can’t even imagine.

  57. 57.

    Ruckus

    February 2, 2019 at 2:58 am

    @CZAnne:
    That is a kind and wonderful thing Brooke did, that donor card. At 12. A wonderful human. Her time was way, way too short, her leaving way too drastic, and her memory should be as strong as she was. So very sorry for you, your family and for Brooke.

  58. 58.

    Ruckus

    February 2, 2019 at 3:14 am

    @Sebastian:
    Yes, and I turned it in an uncommon direction.
    Somedays it is so hard to understand that humans can hate as easily as breathe. To me it some times helps to twist things and see that while we can’t laugh at crap like this man’s early years, we can sometimes laugh at the sometimes absurdity that life can bring.
    I need that occasional laugh and pulling up short, to keep my perspective and to keep putting one foot in front of the other.

    I will amend my earlier post on the subject of the governor’s early life. As more and more info has become public over the day, it has become blindingly obvious that he has to resign. Given all we now understand, even given all we’ve seen about the work he is currently doing, this is that bridge way, way too far. This is supposed to be someone who we can trust, and believe in to do the best for the people who entrusted their state to him. He may be the person that we thought he was up until today, but he wasn’t always that person. And we should be able to trust and believe in our leaders, even if we don’t always agree with them. That has now been wiped out for the state of VA.

  59. 59.

    TS (the original)

    February 2, 2019 at 3:37 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He made the RNC chair drop her maiden name

    That she would do it, signals she has no respect for self and family. I found it quite sad that she would preference the GOP and trump over her family.

  60. 60.

    TS (the original)

    February 2, 2019 at 3:46 am

    @Mary G: The rules are different for democrats – trump has been a racist since birth, a child abuser, a misogynist and who knows what else – but the democrat must resign.

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    February 2, 2019 at 3:53 am

    @CZAnne: So very sorry.

  62. 62.

    Sloane Ranger

    February 2, 2019 at 4:17 am

    @CZAnne: I’m so sorry. My condolences to you and the rest of the family.

  63. 63.

    Jay

    February 2, 2019 at 4:34 am

    @CZAnne:

    I am so sorry CZanne.

  64. 64.

    hervevillechaizelounge

    February 2, 2019 at 4:48 am

    @CZAnne:

    I am aghast at your loss but so amazed and grateful Brooke had the foresight to sign a donor card. She’ll help more people tonight than most of us will in our lifetimes.

    As my Irish grandmother always said, those whom God loves most he takes soonest.

  65. 65.

    satby

    February 2, 2019 at 5:36 am

    @CZAnne: CZAnne, there are no words, only sorrow at such a terrible loss. We all ache for Brooke, you and your family. May her memory be a blessing, as her generous spirit is a blessing now to the people who received her organ donations.

  66. 66.

    Nelle

    February 2, 2019 at 5:39 am

    Cezanne, I’m so very sorry.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    February 2, 2019 at 5:41 am

    @CZAnne:

    Brooke sounds like an amazing girl. I’m very sorry about your loss.

  68. 68.

    OzarkHillbilly

    February 2, 2019 at 5:50 am

    @CZAnne: So sorry, so very sorry.

  69. 69.

    JPL

    February 2, 2019 at 6:09 am

    @CZAnne: I so sorry for you and your family. Condolences.

  70. 70.

    Just One More Canuck

    February 2, 2019 at 6:41 am

    @CZAnne: what a kind, wonderful person. My condolences

  71. 71.

    Kristine

    February 2, 2019 at 8:36 am

    @Adam L Silverman: So the RNC did openly what everyone accused DWS of doing behind the scenes, and no one is screaming?

    Yeah, I know–he’s the president. Technically.

  72. 72.

    Kristine

    February 2, 2019 at 8:37 am

    @CZAnne: I am so, so sorry.

  73. 73.

    Denali

    February 2, 2019 at 8:39 am

    @CZAnne,

    So very sorry. Why do we get caught up in little things that don’t matter….

  74. 74.

    Denali

    February 2, 2019 at 8:40 am

    @CZAnne,

    So sorry.

  75. 75.

    Another Scott

    February 2, 2019 at 8:42 am

    @CZAnne: Thank you for her story, and the reminder that we can all do good things for others no matter our age or station.

    I’m very sorry for your lost. Condolences to you and everyone who knew and loved her. Remember the good times.

    Best wishes,
    Scott.

  76. 76.

    Kayla Rudbek

    February 2, 2019 at 8:57 am

    @CZAnne: I’m very sorry for your loss.

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    February 2, 2019 at 9:21 am

    @Kristine:

    So the RNC did openly what everyone accused DWS of doing behind the scenes, and no one is screaming?

    Let’s see, the RNC was horrified that the DNC put their thumb on the scale for the major DEMOCRATIC candidate in the race.

    The RNC declared that any candidate but Trump weighs absolutely nothing, then locked the doors so no other candidate has a chance.

    I for one am screaming on the inside. As I said yesterday, someone please get this man off the stage before he kills us all.

  78. 78.

    gbbalto

    February 2, 2019 at 9:28 am

    @CZAnne: So very sorry to see this.

  79. 79.

    O. Felix Culpa

    February 2, 2019 at 9:32 am

    @CZAnne: The sadness is beyond words. May your memories of this bright and delightful child give you some measure of comfort over time.

  80. 80.

    StringOnAStick

    February 2, 2019 at 9:48 am

    @CZAnne: I’m so sorry. Brooke has given so much to do many.

  81. 81.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 2, 2019 at 10:26 am

    @CZAnne: Deepest condolences to Brooke’s entire family (and probably very large circle of friends).

    And Dick Cheney is still animated…

  82. 82.

    PaulWartenberg

    February 2, 2019 at 10:47 am

    @Yarrow:

    I don’t think they can stop primarying because that’s set into the states’ electoral systems. What they have been doing has been eliminating the caucuses where a spoiler candidate could garner upset wins and hurt trump’s fee fees.

  83. 83.

    Big Jim Slade

    February 2, 2019 at 10:48 am

    It’s early, but it looks like Kelsey D. Atherton wins the internet today!

  84. 84.

    imonlylurking

    February 2, 2019 at 11:09 am

    @CZAnne: I’m so sorry for your loss, CZAnne. Your niece will always be remembered by the ones she was able to help.

  85. 85.

    Sister Golden Bear

    February 2, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    @CZAnne: I’m so sorry about your loss. My condolences to you and your family. I hope there’s a small consolation in what a wonderful thing Brooke did signing up for the donor card, especially at such a young age.

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