Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

One way or another, he’s a liar.

Republicans got rid of McCarthy. Democrats chose not to save him.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

It is possible to do the right thing without the promise of a cookie.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

Humiliatingly small and eclipsed by the derision of millions.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Republicans do not trust women.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

There are a lot more evil idiots than evil geniuses.

Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

Republicans: “Abortion is murder but you can take a bus to get one.” Easy peasy.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

It’s the corruption, stupid.

Hey Washington Post, “Democracy Dies in Darkness” was supposed to be a warning, not a mission statement.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

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  2. 2.

    Baud

    She has always put country over ego. Unlike some others.

    And it wasn’t only Mark Penn scare mongering about her running.

  3. 3.

    chopper

    did she say “oh jesus h christ inna chicken basket, i’m not running!”? cause otherwise i’m not sure it’s true.

  5. 5.

    RepubAnon

    Ah, but Hillary is a liar – so if she says she’s not running, she must really BE running.
    (/snark)
    Seriously, when’s the last time somebody who lost one election tried for a re-match, and won? Pity the poor hack columnists will need to replace “Hillary Clinton” with “Elizabeth Warren” in their column generation macros.

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    Rs to convene Senate investigation into “what’s she hiding now” in 3… 2… 1….

  11. 11.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    Don’t you fools see?! This denial obviously means she’s running and is only meant to distract us so she once again she can steal the nom from Bernie!&#*#*÷**÷111

    P.S. I am not a crack pot

    //

  15. 15.

    GregB

    Meanwhile, human colostomy bag Jerome Corsi has admitted that his repulsive smear of Hillary Clinton as the murderer of Seth Rich was a pack of fantasist lies.

  16. 16.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Baud:

    The Elysian Fields, maybe.

    I’ve shot there, great view of Downtown LA.

    ETA: Speaking of shooting…I got a gun scope today(along with an adapter to mount it on my hot shoe). It should make pointing the camera at the right star easier.

  17. 17.

    cokane

    I don’t think we’ll ever fully move beyond what happened in 2016, it’s like a lesser 9/11 in some ways. It will be an important historical moment, I suspect.

  18. 18.

    Marcopolo

    In case anyone is interested, good night to watch Maddow. Elections have consequences & oversight is underway! She’s going into details on the letters Nadler sent out today.

  25. 25.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @cokane: I heard some where that Trumpov’s approval rate went up by 3 percent in the past week. I don’t fucking get it. He looked like a moron in Vietnam. Cohen made him look bad. How did people think better of him?

  31. 31.

    Mai Naem mobile

    There’s a thread on Twitter from a woman who went into urgent care with her 2 kids and got an rx for antibiotics. Went to different pharmacies. Insurance refused to cover. Substitute drug. More pharmacy. Different copays/deductibles. Nightmare. WTF? HC should not be this hard to fix. Anybody notice the biopharm PR ads because they’re in the hot seat over the price of drugs. Fuckers don’t even do that much new research. Just repackage old meds.

  32. 32.

    trollhattan

    @Mai Naem mobile:
    IMO there’s likely a correlation of popularity with media facetime doing things other than yelling in front of his idling helicopter or schlepping off to the golf course. He had a lot of that last week.

    Certainly has mastered the art of “me-me-me!”

  35. 35.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Baud: that was my initial thought too but I would have put statistical noise at more like 1-1.5 percent. How come statistical noise doesn’t show him dropping unless he does something real awful.

  37. 37.

    AThornton

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    What Baud said, above, but also this too ….

    Response rates in telephone surveys have resumed their decline

    In 2017 and 2018, typical telephone survey response rates fell to 7% and 6%, respectively, according to the Center’s latest data. Response rates had previously held steady around 9% for several years.

    With the youngs land line free it is getting ever more difficult to get a representative sample.

    ETA: also need to look at the polling firm. Anything associated with Rasmussen is ipso facto bullshit.

  40. 40.

    Bobby Thomson

    @RepubAnon:

    Seriously, when’s the last time somebody who lost one election tried for a re-match, and won?

    I assume you mean at the presidential level, because it happens in other races all the time.

    Grover Cleveland. Before that you have to go back to Jefferson.

  41. 41.

    tobie

    I’ve been feeling faint since I read BC’s post. The news that HRC is not running is just so unexpected. I’m sorry that Eric Holder has also announced that he’s not running. I like him and think he’s got a wicked sense of humor.

  42. 42.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @trollhattan: if I never see Trumpov’s ugly orange ass on teevee again it will be too soon. Same goes for his whole scuzzy greasy disgusting family and his albino Veep. And his COS with his rat like teeth. And his Nazi DHS head. And his Boss Hogg look a like Secretary of Commerce. And his Christofascist SOS.

  43. 43.

    danielx

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    Clearly the CPAC speech. Except that (I would guess) only about ten percent of voters could tell you what CPAC* is, let alone what the letters stand for.

    *1. Someplace where the conservative id is on full display without restraint. 2. A place young (and old) cons go to get their freak on.

    BTW, is it ‘Baud 2020!’ or ‘Baud!2020’? I prefer the latter.

  44. 44.

    HumboldtBlue

    Guys, I hate to break it you, but I’m not running either.

    I am, however, trying to become the president of the AOC Twitter Club!

    I’d like at least your token support.

  46. 46.

    cokane

    @Mai Naem mobile: 3 percent could just be statistical noise. Also, polling takes several days or even a full week to catch up because you have to do callbacks over multiple days in order for it to be a truly random sample (i.e. unbiased by not disproportionately excluding busy people).

  48. 48.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @PaulWartenberg: who the hell is going to go see fine art in Floriduh? I thought they would be more into last supper kitsch pics of Trumpov with Jesus Christ.

  49. 49.

    NotMax

    @cokane

    Also, as there is no link to refer to as a source, it might be bad polling (i.e., online or other questionable ‘instant’ polling). Or Rasmussen.

  50. 50.

    Marcopolo

    I now know a hellalot more about Jay Inslee than I did ten minutes ago. And I have a much more favorable opinion.

    Maddow/Inslee interview is now starting.

  53. 53.

    Belafon

    @RepubAnon:

    Every time a candidate that won the popular vote but lost the EC and ran again won. It’s actually odd, based on US political history, for her and Gore to not have challenged their opponents to a rematch.

  55. 55.

    plato

    I’ve at times posed the unanswerable question of how one can ethically serve a deeply unethical man.It appears the National Security Advisor’s approach is to pretend he doesn’t understand English. https://t.co/DGDLfpesZ6— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) March 3, 2019

  56. 56.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The moment when a meteor takes out Mark Penn cannot come a nanosecond too soon.

  58. 58.

    Marcopolo

    @NotMax: I think the word relative is doing a lot of work here. If he is svelte then so am I. However, I am very happy to see him leading the Judiciary Committee’s work.

  59. 59.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @danielx: Mick Mulvaney. He just has a rodent look to him. Sean Hannity looks like a brain damaged bull.
    For all the racist jokes they made about Obama being a gorilla, freaking Roger Stone looks very simian. So do both Trumpov sons. Maybe that’s why they like going hunting. They want to spend time with their cousins.i know I am being very unfair to all monkeys, chimps etc by comparing the Trumpov sons to them.

  62. 62.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Bobby Thomson: I spent a summer in Brussels with a group of law students, one of whom was an Alabaman named Grover Cleveland. No relation, he said, his parents just liked the name. Or possibly disliked their child.

    Nice guy, but the quintessential loud American.

    No idea on his presidential prospects.

  65. 65.

    ??? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ??

    @Sab:
    They are eventually, after a few days. Good cleaning around a stoma is essential to preventing any skin breakdown. Gotta clean out that poop.

  67. 67.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Marcopolo: Inslee is pretty impressive but i think it’s easier to be impressive in a state like Washington with their high tech businesses and the state being pretty solid blue(yeah,I know Eastern Washington is quite red.) Harder to be impressive in,say, Illinois,Michigan or NM.

  68. 68.

    Major Major Major Major

    One of my friends posted a 2015 article about her candidacy announcement on Facebook recently. The comments by the hardcore Bernie crowd are uhh, hilarious? Eventually somebody came and pointed out that the post was an obvious troll.

  69. 69.

    Sab

    @Mai Naem mobile: Florida has wonderful artists, and always has. This is not a new development.

    My personal favorite is watercolorist Dean Mitchell, but that’s just me.

  72. 72.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Sab: they make more one piece ones which are disposable. The older two piece ones have a rubbery latex piece that is put on the skin and the bags connect like a Tupperware top. They’re expensive. They used to be $50-$80 for a box of 10 bags. I had a friend who used to pay out of pocket so that he could throw them instead of cleaning them.

  73. 73.

    Ivan X

    Even the liberal Washington Post:
    “The request for documents from President Trump’s sons and others — part of an investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice, corruption and abuse of power — could bolster critics’ claims that the Democrats are seeking only to undermine the president.”

  74. 74.

    Marcopolo

    @Mai Naem mobile: Well, one of the things I just learned is Inslee’s first time serving in the US House was cut short because, among other things, he voted for stronger gun laws & then lost his race to get re-elected.

    Anyway, at this point in time I am not supporting anyone but I am donating to candidates who might have a lower profile but whose voice I want to hear in the first debate. Think the requirement is 1% in the polls or 65,000 donors across 20 states.

    So far for me that includes Castro & Buttgieg. I’ll kick $25 to Inslee to add him to the list. But not Hickenlooper :).

  77. 77.

    randy khan

    I love the very specific qualification in the headline that this is the first time she’s said it “on camera.” Because otherwise it’s about the 100th time she’s said it.

  80. 80.

    BruceFromOhio

    Hillary Clinton: I’m not running for president in 2020
    Mass Media: HILLARY SAYS SHE’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IN 2020!!!!!!!111!1!!!1!!1eleventyone
    HC: Did you hear what I said? I’m not running.
    MM: So you *ARE* RUNNING?!?!?!? HILLARY IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!111!!!1111!!!!eleventyone
    HC: Oh, FFS. Screw you, morons.
    MM: HILLARY’S EMAIL SERVER STILL NOT SECURE!!!!!1111!!1!1!!1!1elevtnyone11!1!BENGHAZI!1PIZZAGATE!!vincefoster!!11!

  88. 88.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    @Marcopolo: Yes – and at least Inslee’s candidacy is about highlighting a really important issue (the climate emergency).

  90. 90.

    Keith P.

    Penn is just a modern version of Dick Morris in his “Condi vs. Hillary” mode – he puts forth a premise patently ridiculous but irresistible to at least one cable news station so he can get some TV time.

  94. 94.

    Sab

    Goku,
    I don’t want to pry, but I am a tax accountant. Have you done your taxes yet? Were you shocked or pleased at the result?

  95. 95.

    Jeffro

    Wait – Hillz is not running? That’s ok, she’s still guilty of Uranium Nonsense and also Clinton UnFound(edaccusa)tion something something something. Or so my RWNJ dad sez.

    Hey with Nadler’s committee calling some 81 people to testify/produce documents/etc, it looks like we might really have “hundreds of indictments dropped on dozens of people”TM after all…who knew that elections mattered?

  97. 97.

    lamh36

    Oh for fuqs sake…ENOUGH!!!

    Follow Follow @samstein
    More
    Jeff Merkley email just now: “I want you to be among the first to know: tomorrow morning, I will make a major announcement about my plans for 2020.”

    9:13 PM – 4 Mar 2019https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1102769079394492416

    Please don’t let it be another POTUS 2020 cadidate

  99. 99.

    BruceFromOhio

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    Sean Hannity looks like a brain damaged bull.

    Keith Olbermann in his heyday on MSNBC would ruthlessly mock and belittle Hannity. At first it was amusing, but then it got kind of sad, like watching the smart kids in the class picking on the big dumb jock because he was such an easy target. How the fuck Hannity has survived this long in the same shtick is a testimony to a good grift – you sell every last shred of your soul and your dignity, and apparently still get paid on a regular basis.

  100. 100.

    Jeffro

    @lamh36: also who cares…let them all run…some of them won’t be able to hire decent staff, raise money, make sense on the stump, etc etc.

    The field will winnow down and as long as the eventual candidate has released her/his tax returns, is a member in good standing of the party, and upholds its policy positions, we’ll be good.

  102. 102.

    Jeffro

    Folks my dad likes to rib me about all these Dems jumping into the race…truly, who cares? As long as we keep it under 50 candidates, some of them will have 2% vs 1% support (maybe even 3-4%!) and the chaff will indeed separate from the wheat.

    90% of them are running for VP/next time/a cabinet post/whatever. It is, unfortunately, just how it goes.

    Make sure they all abide by some very important standards, and we’ll still end up in a good place. =)

  105. 105.

    TS (the original)

    @Another Scott: I was complaining today because my monthly scripts (4) cost in total $42 when I thought it should have been $26.
    Cannot believe the drama of US prescription costs – sounds just crazy

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    @Marcopolo, @NotMax:

    Jerry Nadler before and after.

    In looking for that picture I did a spit-take when I saw that Chris Christie weighed about 550 pounds when he took office as New Jersey’s governor in 2009. I am very bad at judging weight—I think “over 300” and sort of blur out—but that astounded me.

    I have no idea what Christie weighs now.

  112. 112.

    Jeffro

    @BruceFromOhio: Probably not a bad idea. I mean, in terms of jumping in for a particular candidate or the other. For insisting on standards (like releasing tax returns and being a member of the party), good idea to bang that drum now, and loudly.

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @NotMax:

    The only trigger around here is the one attached to the fake boutonniere which sprays water.

    WORN BY THE FREAKING CLOWN!!!!!!!!!ELEVEN!!!!!ONE!!!!

  114. 114.

    Jeffro

    @eemom: Biden, the guy who praised Pence recently? Who’s one of the very oldest folks in the mix?

    Honestly, I am not worried about Biden. That’s just name recognition/Obama association, and I have no doubt that several other contenders will point that out about an hour after he announces.

  115. 115.

    Amir Khalid

    @eemom:
    Dr Mrs Holder bugged him for years to quit as USAG for the sake of his health. There’s no way she’d have let him run for POTUS.

  116. 116.

    Citizen Alan

    @RepubAnon:

    Seriously, when’s the last time somebody who lost one election tried for a re-match, and won?

    Um, Reagan? And before him, Nixon?

  119. 119.

    Sab

    @eemom: I remember when Biden was running in 2008. He wandered into our area and had 1 reporter turn out for his press conference. And we are a very Democratic and union area. The one reporter who turned out was a National Guard guy deployed to Iraq who turned out to respect Beau’s dad.

    Not exactly a ringing indorsement.

    They did really hit it off, but so he conected with one guy.

  120. 120.

    Hob

    I’m really sorry to let you all down, but: neither one of my cats is running. They’re only 10 months old and they’ve never heard of America, but I know there was still a lot of speculation.

  121. 121.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Marcopolo: I may be wrong but I think Inslee used to represent a purple district which either became bluer by redistricting or the area just became bluer. Hickenlooper won reelection in Colorado after passing stronger gun laws, even though some important Dems lost reelection in the Colorado legislature.

  123. 123.

    tobie

    @lamh36: Oh no, not another candidate. Chris Murphy was right when he said he’s not running because someone has to stay in the Senate who knows how things work. I guess everyone saw today that Sanders filed paperwork to run as a Democrat for President in 2020 and as an Independent for Senate in 2024. This alone should disqualify him from the primary. He really, really, really hates the Party whose nomination he seeks.

  124. 124.

    Sab

    @Omnes Omnibus: Steve is originally from N Illinois?! That’s hilarious.

    I was born in NC and now I live in NE Ohio. Can’t decide if that is a relief or just sad.

  125. 125.

    Ruckus

    @Mai Naem mobile:

    How did people think better of him?

    You are mistaking his supporters for people with actual intelligence. They are happy because the left isn’t. It isn’t any more complex than that.

  127. 127.

    Doug R

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    ETA: Speaking of shooting…I got a gun scope today(along with an adapter to mount it on my hot shoe). It should make pointing the camera at the right star easier.

    Plus it makes those traffic stops much more interesting.

  128. 128.

    Steve in the ATL

    @Omnes Omnibus: studied international law at the EEC headquarters. Also may have drank a lot and caroused with females. Then cought the Pink Floyd concert at the Berlin Wall. Was a good summer!

    The cool place to be on Friday evening in Brussels? On the train to Paris.

  130. 130.

    eemom

    @Jeffro:

    I don’t disagree….but there’s just the teeny tiny facts that he does well against Dump in meaningless polls and has the capacity to raise a shit ton of money that make it less than crystal clear that he’ll have the sense to stay out.

    Hell, I even know otherwise sane, intelligent people who think he’s the safest bet to beat Dump.

  135. 135.

    eemom

    @Amir Khalid:

    Dr Mrs Holder bugged him for years to quit as USAG for the sake of his health. There’s no way she’d have let him run for POTUS.

    Oooooh. NICE.

    I do get a warm fuzzy in my tummy when a wife not letting her husband do something is presented as an inevitable, incontrovertible fact of life.

  137. 137.

    sab

    @eemom: Keeps him alive thats fine with me.

    Especially if he is doing useful stuff elsewhere and has no prayer of being nominated to a job he doesn’t want. Wins all around in every direction. Yay wife.

  140. 140.

    Marcopolo

    @Mai Naem mobile: According to Maddow, after Inslee lost his first re-election bid he took a few years off, moved to another part of WA, then won election to a house seat that had only been won once by a D in the previous 40 years.

    As for Hickenlooper, his position on fracking moves him waaay down the list for me.

  141. 141.

    Captain C

    @RepubAnon: As far as rematches, off the top of my head, Grover Cleveland defeated Benjamin Harrison in 1892 after losing the electoral college but winning the popular vote in 1888, Andrew Jackson had the same thing happen in 1828 and 1824, respectively, and the only other rematch I can think of under the current system is Ike beating Adlai Stevenson twice in a row. I think Jefferson and Adams ran against each other twice in a row, but those were the days when the runner-up became VP.

  143. 143.

    Ruckus

    @tobie:
    You think he might be running as a, what’s it called, trojan horse?
    Or is he just an asshole?
    Of course – podría ser ambos?

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