Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

Roe isn’t about choice, it’s about freedom.

Perhaps you mistook them for somebody who gives a damn.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

We are builders in a constant struggle with destroyers. let’s win this.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

“But what about the lurkers?”

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

Nothing worth doing is easy.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

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Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: I’ll Believe It When It Happens

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TA-DAAAH!

Tenth year of what?...

And why April 15th?…

Swear to Murphy, Sanders believes he can peel off enough Repubs who find Trump distasteful to monkeywrench his way into the Democratic nomination. A Dem we can *work* with! One who *appreciates* the hard-working white salt of the earth!

And given this degraded timeline, bastid could be correct!

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  2. 2.

    Ruckus

    @Mary G:
    And I don’t know why any one would expect any different from him. He’s an old entitled ass who has had how many jobs outside of political office? His policy record and congressional voting record is pretty shitty for someone who claims to be about as left as is possible. I’ll give him credit though, he’s smarter than Trump. Talk about your minimal advantage however, I mean I consider Trump to be about as smart as a rotting turnip.

  3. 3.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    This is why he voted for Dump’s racist wall ( senate vote #26 [link])

    This is why he infamously said gays and women should shut up lest they offend bigoted whites

    “what concerns me is that you have many white working class people who are voting against their own best interest. These are guys getting hung up on gay marriage issues, they`re getting hang up on abortion issues and it is time we started focusing on the economic issues that bring us together” (link)

    This is why he said black voters in southern primary states “distort reality” and their votes should be suppressed by moving them to the back of the bus campaign calendar (link)

    This is why he’s an apologist for racist whites, stating “I think you know there are a lot of white folks out there who are not necessarily racist who felt uncomfortable for the first time in their lives about whether or not they wanted to vote for an African-American [Stacey Abrams and Andrew Gillum].” (link)

    It’s always been about his fetishizing of racist whites.

  4. 4.

    TriassicSands

    Sanders’ continued popularity is evidence that profound stupidity and ignorance are not limited to the Right. They are American* problems and there is no plausible cure.

    *But not limited to the US. Brexit and the increasing number of countries willingly embracing extreme right-wing authoritarianism are evidence that the problem is widespread.

  5. 5.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Imagine how the purists would be screaming bloody murder if Kamala or Amy decided to pander to racists and normalize and validate a Nazi propaganda outlet.

  6. 6.

    Aleta

    @Mary G: “He is what we thought he was.”
    While believing he thinks at a higher level than us.

    Thanks for talking to me about your Sophie. It helped to hear.
    And there’s some similarity between her and my remaining cat (and our cats with our mothers).

  7. 7.

    Aleta

    who went on Lou Dobbs’ show to bash immigrants, and who supported an amendment favoring the Minutemen vigilantes

    What are those stories?

  8. 8.

    opiejeanne

    @TriassicSands: This is true. I had a run-in on Facebook this evening with some ninny who told me the reason Hillary lost was because she called BERNIE’s supporters deplorable, that she said she didn’t want or need the votes of millennials living in their mom’s basement. This after she told me that I had a poor memory of the campaign if I was trying to blame Hillary’s loss on voter suppression and the EC.

    I read it, then read it again and wondered what planet has she been living on?

    Hillary said half of TRUMP’S supporters were deplorable. I’m pretty sure she fantasized the rest of what she said.

  9. 9.

    opiejeanne

    Oh swell! The security company for our cabin just called us, at 1am to tell us that the alarm had gone off there. Since we put it on the market the security alarm has been tripped several times by idiot realtors, but I don’t think anyone is showing the cabin at 1am.

    In other news, I’m a great aunt! My niece who lives in Italy had her baby boy on Thursday morning at 2am. They named him Lorenzo.

  10. 10.

    Mary G

    @Ruckus: He left Brooklyn, a diverse place, and moved to Vermont. Literally white flight. Fuck em.

    @Aleta: I was embarrassed that I blabbed on and on, so thanks for saying it helped.

  13. 13.

    karen marie

    @TriassicSands: His popularity is overstated – loudly. How is he allowed to run for the Dem nomination, again? Real question. I don’t understand how a non-party member runs in a party primary.

  14. 14.

    Shalimar

    “10th year” makes it sound like whatever payment Jane received that the Sanders team doesn’t want anyone to know about came in 2009 and they finally don’t have to include it in what they release.

  16. 16.

    Amir Khalid

    @karen marie:
    Jedi mind-trick: the Force gives him power over weak minds. Seriously, he and his Wilmerista storm troopers have basically managed the cuckoo trick.

  17. 17.

    Original Lee

    @Shalimar: Yup. And talking to Berniebros about financial stuff is almost as bad as talking to libertarian-leaning Trumpistas.

  18. 18.

    Zifnab25

    Wow, this site’s gone to absolute dogshit since I left.

    Very Howard Dean 2004 with all the bashing the most liberal guy in the room. It’s like a thread full of Darrells

  21. 21.

    kindness

    Re: Bernie on Trevor Noah last night. Bernie did OK but the one failing I see in his plan is his plan is to keep the entire population engaged and demanding the change Bernie wants. The problem with that is that isn’t the America we live in. People vote (well some of us at least) and then mostly we want politicians to sort it out while we go on with our lives. No one is going to be at the barricades 24/7 for any president.

    Bernie has nice pipe dreams, but they aren’t close to being something that would ever happen.

  23. 23.

    Zifnab25

    @joel hanes: Busted.

    But it’s become clear that releasing tax returns is a giant political liability, courting white midwesterner critical to winning the Presidency, and calling the biggest socialist in the room a concervative carries some serious cognitive dissonance.

  24. 24.

    Goblue72

    @Zifnab25: it’s a bunch of grey hairs with status anxiety. Anne Laurie basically turned into a one note ranting about BernieBros as she slowly descends into dementia.

  25. 25.

    kindness

    With all due respect to the BernieBros in attendance. My litmus test isn’t ‘the most liberal’ person who is running. My litmus test is who can get the most done. Imho Bernie isn’t that guy. Nothing in his career has indicated he is a ringleader. Sure, he lights a fire under your asses, but he doesn’t do anything with his fellow Senators and Congress Critters. Well, at least he hasn’t up until this point. So before you castigate all of us, pull your heads & egos out of your asses. It isn’t personal. It isn’t about Bernie. It’s about all of us. So peace be with you and go fuck off.

  26. 26.

    Major Major Major Major

    @kindness: My litmus test is who would make the best president. This comes down to looking at their gut political instincts, plus their abilities to think about executing their goals, and critically evaluate facts. Sanders I don’t like for #1, but that’s a matter of personal preference; it’s the latter two that concern me the most about him. See the infamous NYDN interview for #2, or as noted in this thread that he thinks continued political pressure is a thing the left can mount in America. It would be nice if it were so, of course, but…

  27. 27.

    Zifnab25

    @kindness: I challenge you to find someone capable of “Getting Stuff Done” with McConnell running the Senate.

    More than any Presidental candidate, that’s your logjam.

    One reason I’m furious at Beto for going national is the big possibility of a missed pick up in rapidly blue-ifying Texas.

  28. 28.

    J R in WV

    @Zifnab25:

    and calling the biggest socialist in the room a concervative

    Guy no one has ever heard of before wants us to think ( the misogynist, racist ) Sanders is actually a socialist, but can’t spell conservative. I’ve know actual Socialists, had a professor who worked for unions and integration who was one, and Sanders is NOT one at all. Russian stooge is not the same as actual socialist!!!

    I call first Russian troll of the day here.

    ETA spell check

  29. 29.

    FlipYrWhig

    I predict that Bernie Sanders won’t perform particularly well with the fabled white working class this time around, even the Democrats. And his fanatics–who for some reason think they are rough-hewn men of action instead of squishy, pissy intellectuals with cosplay fantasies–will go absolutely riproaring apeshit about who ruined their messiah’s anointment. And I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

  30. 30.

    FlipYrWhig

    @J R in WV: You can tell how big a socialist Sanders is by how he thinks everything of value should be shared. OK, except tax returns.

  31. 31.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Zifnab25: Sanders thinks he can, because people who like Bernie Sanders will form a mob under Mitch McConnell’s window and scare him into doing their bidding. Because Bernie Sanders is a stupid-ass with a messianic sense of his own galvanic importance.

  32. 32.

    Ruckus

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Because Bernie Sanders is a stupid-ass with a messianic sense of his own galvanic importance.

    BS perfectly encapsulated in one sentence. Bravo!

  34. 34.

    Zifnab25

    @FlipYrWhig:

    people who like Bernie Sanders will form a mob under Mitch McConnell’s window and scare him into doing their bidding

    I’m not saying it’ll always work.

    I’m saying let’s give it a shot.

    Maybe if shitty leaders hate their jobs enough, they’ll change their policies. Or at least pull a Boehner, quit, and take up smoking weed.

  35. 35.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Zifnab25: It’s also Donald Trump’s theory of how to make politicians do stuff. But I guess BernieMagic is bound to work. :/

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