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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Assange Open Thread: Communicable, Like Measles

Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Assange Open Thread: Communicable, Like Measles

by Anne Laurie|  April 12, 20193:57 am| 13 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Open Threads, Russiagate, All Too Normal, Assholes, Riveted By The Sociological Significance Of It All

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BREAKING: Swedish software developer who is allegedly close to Wikileaks founder Julian Assange is arrested at Quito airport, Ecuadorian official says. https://t.co/XZcIBfAbHN

— The Associated Press (@AP) April 12, 2019


If you click on the linked story, it’s being updated regularly…

If nothing else, the arrest of Julian Assange in a US extradition warrant is yet another example of the towering ingratitude of this administration*.

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) April 11, 2019

There's an element of the regime tying up loose ends after Barr's clampdown that stinks in the Assange arrest. He's a penny fascist who is also a time bomb for Trump. Not hard to imagine Putin smiling, either. Julian's usefulness to global white nationalist power grab was over.

— Tom Watson (@tomwatson) April 11, 2019

One thought re: the rather small, single charge in the Assange indictment:

The severity of the charges and potential punishment has a potential impact on other countries’ extradition decisions.

The greater the appearance of prosecutorial harshness, the harder the sell.

1/2

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) April 11, 2019

Reserving more substantial potential charges until Assange was arrested and extradited would be a reasonably logical approach since a giant stack of charges calling for a lengthy incarceration might chill the odds of extradition.

2/

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) April 11, 2019

We’ll have to wait to see what happens next but with Barr throwing himself behind full obstruction of justice, don’t be shocked if we see no prosecutorial zeal out of the DOJ until leaks reveal the chargeable offenses being held back by Barr’s DOJ.

We shall see.

7/7

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) April 11, 2019

The unsealing of an indictment against Assange was always intended to be ‘twinned’ w/ the indictments of Stone, Corsi and perhaps others. That was dictated by the sequential ‘storyline’ of SCO indictments. +

— Rick Petree (@RickPetree) April 11, 2019

Chapter 3 shd have been the receipt, and weaponization for campaign purposes, of that data by campaign-connected persons. It’s that piece of the story that we have yet to see. What has happened to any planned indictments for that ‘chapter’ remains to be seen.

— Rick Petree (@RickPetree) April 11, 2019

So when Wikileaks pretends he was exonerated, he wasn’t. When they pretend he’s a persecuted journalist, he isn’t.

He was wanted for sex crimes.

His hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy merely outlasted the statute of limitations.

He was exonerated about as much as trump was.

2/2

— Philippe Reines (@PhilippeReines) April 11, 2019

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13Comments

  1. 1.

    prob50

    April 12, 2019 at 4:23 am

    Good Morning, Everyone.

  2. 2.

    prob50

    April 12, 2019 at 4:28 am

    Isn’t it amazing how a nasty little scumbag like Assange has managed to garner so much attention and so much commentary and speculation. Sign of the times, I guess.

    He acts like he’s hot sh*t on a log, but he’s really only cold piss on a tooth[pick.

  3. 3.

    Plato

    April 12, 2019 at 4:59 am

    Heh Assange fanbois. This is for you and your misplaced poutrage.

    I was on State’s China desk when these cables were released. I worked feverishly to determine which Chinese human rights activists’ lives might be in danger by the public disclosure of their contact with US officials. Assange is no friend of human rights. https://t.co/yXtqbuRevM— Laura Rosenberger (@rosenbergerlm) April 11, 2019

    When the Guardian editors told him they would redact the names of Afghans mentioned in the cables whose lives would be otherwise endangered, Assange said: “Well, they're informants. So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it.” https://t.co/9OWzYWFV0H https://t.co/Kx1xPBQLzf— Michael Weiss (@michaeldweiss) April 11, 2019

    Fuck him and his ilk.

  4. 4.

    NotMax

    April 12, 2019 at 5:03 am

    Reserving more substantial potential charges until Assange was arrested and extradited

    Any such further charges for any offense committed prior to extradition are specifically prohibited by the U.S.-U.K. treaty of extraditon’s Article 18 unless completely agreed to by the U.K. pdf file

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 12, 2019 at 5:05 am

    Blech.

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 12, 2019 at 5:09 am

    @NotMax: Once they have their hands on him, do you think little things like laws or treaties are going to stop them from doing whatever they want?

  7. 7.

    NotMax

    April 12, 2019 at 5:12 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Mentioning it to point out the The Hoarse Whisperer (whoever that may be) is blowing smoke about this.

  8. 8.

    Nelle

    April 12, 2019 at 5:14 am

    He fled investigation for rape. That focuses my attention. Slime pretending to be the great hero.

  9. 9.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 12, 2019 at 5:23 am

    @NotMax: Pompeo flounders on why annexation is good for the Golan but not for Crimea

    Under intense questioning about why the Israeli annexation of the Golan Heights was good but the Russian seizure of Crimea was bad, the US secretary of state, Mike Pompeo, told senators that there was an “international law doctrine” which would be explained to them later.

    It turned out there was no doctrine. The state department’s clarification of Pompeo’s remarks contained no reference to one, and experts on international law said that none exists.

    Donald Trump’s decision last month to recognise Israeli sovereignty over the Golan, captured from Syria in 1967, took the state department by surprise, and it has been struggling to catch up since.

    Pompeo has provided several justifications for the move, from ancient Jewish roots on the plateau, to the justness of the Israeli cause in the “six-day war”, and the blunt force of “facts on the ground”.

    On Tuesday, bombarded by senators’ questions on the distinction between the Golan and the Crimean cases, he suggested there was a body of international law underpinning Trump’s move, that would soon be revealed.

    “There is international law doctrine on this very point. We don’t have time to go through it today. But [I’m] happy to have a team go over and walk you through that element of international law,” Pompeo told a Senate appropriations subcommittee.

    Asked for clarification about the “doctrine” the state department issued a statement that made several arguments but no legal ones.

    They don’t believe laws apply to them. They don’t believe they are bound by treaties.

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    April 12, 2019 at 5:39 am

    @OzarkHillbilly

    Indeed the Dolt 45 badministration’s track record builds a case for the U.K. to deny extradition, which it has done before involving requests by the U.S.

  11. 11.

    Joe Falco

    April 12, 2019 at 9:06 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    They don’t believe laws apply to them. They don’t believe they are bound by treaties

    If it was a country other than the US, it would be called a “rogue state” and their leaders shunned from having anything to do with the rest of the world. F the Republicans and all the people who put them in power, foreign or domestic.

  12. 12.

    moonbat

    April 12, 2019 at 10:48 am

    There’s a statue of limitations on RAPE in Sweden???

  13. 13.

    StringOnAStick

    April 12, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    @moonbat: I’m not sure about that, but there are big differences between the Swedish law system and our own so this case keeps getting muddled reporting. What he fled from was the questioning that precedes laying of charges, meaning they wanted to talk to him (after having talked to his 2 accusers) to see if a case needed to be pursued. Once he fled to the embassy in London, this step couldn’t be pursued so the case went on hold/dropped. My understanding is that at least one of the victims wants to open the case again. Maybe we should let Julian head to Sweden first to answer those charges.

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