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You are here: Home / Healthcare / COVID-19 Coronavirus / COVID-19 Update (Domestic Edition) – Thursday/Friday, March 5/6

COVID-19 Update (Domestic Edition) – Thursday/Friday, March 5/6

by Anne Laurie|  March 6, 20204:55 am| 40 Comments

This post is in: COVID-19 Coronavirus, Healthcare, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, World's Best Healthcare (If You Can Afford It)

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First, the ‘good’ news….

BREAKING: By a 20-point margin, Americans say Trump’s handling of the Coronavirus makes them less likely to vote for him.https://t.co/TCyz7frXKx

— Andy Slavitt (@ASlavitt) March 5, 2020

Our regularly scheduled nightmare:

Passing through US immigration after an international trip, I suggest to @CBP that they should have install hand sanitizer since we all use a touch screen for fingerprints. CBP officer – who is wearing gloves – tells me it’s not his problem. #Coronavirus

— Bernadette Meehan (@MeehanBM) March 4, 2020

I just landed at JFK after reporting on #coronavirus in Milan and Lombardy —the epicenter of Italy’s outbreak— for @vicenews. I walked right through US customs. They didn’t ask me where in Italy I went or if I came into contact with sick people. They didn’t ask me anything.

— Julia Lindau (@julialindau) March 5, 2020

Trump tries to find a silver lining to the coronavirus during Fox News town hall: "I have to say, people are now staying in the United States, spending their money in the US — and I like that." pic.twitter.com/lbERhrSq6t

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 5, 2020

NATIONAL NEWSPAPER HEADLINE: On Coronavirus, Trump Goes Boldly With His Gut https://t.co/20OgwFUSYi

— subscribe to my newsletter (@brianbeutler) March 6, 2020

Chuck Todd just said too much Covid-19 testing could overwhelm labs. Taking bothsideserism to parodic levels.

— Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) March 5, 2020

Get political reporters off the coronavirus story because they don’t distinguish between right and wrong https://t.co/jYBK6t4O7X NEW on Press Watch

— Dan Froomkin/PressWatchers.org (@froomkin) March 5, 2020

What Trump is saying here is that the mortality rate in US is closing in on a terrifying 10%, which is either a sign of a truly collapsed healthcare system, or a signal that our testing is so botched that we've only identified a tenth or so of the active US cases. https://t.co/obr5EcZS2H

— Hunter (@HunterDK) March 5, 2020

Who saw this coming? Oh, wait, everyone did. https://t.co/ah7BKJD3W0

— Ronald Klain (@RonaldKlain) March 5, 2020

it would make me an awful person to actively hope he gets a taste of his own medicine

So let me just say that a man in his 60s who lives and works in a very densely populated area should be very, very careful what he wishes for https://t.co/YUAh7anxmV

— local jack please ban the nazis person (@pleizar) March 6, 2020


The President sadly does not understand this specific equation or have any appetite for promoting empathy or altruistic behavior, even though as an elderly man he would be one the principal beneficiaries in this case. But don’t listen to him, and don’t go to work if you’re sick.

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) March 5, 2020

If anyone wonders what being a libertarian really means, it means vetoing emergency coronavirus funds, like Rand Paul just did.

— Isa-Lee Wolf (@IsaLeeWolf) March 5, 2020

Nevada health officials confirm Las Vegas' first case of novel coronavirus https://t.co/6l8j9rqkqD pic.twitter.com/byVWCNEm6G

— ABC13 Houston (@abc13houston) March 6, 2020

Stanford is nixing all university-sponsored international travel to any country until at least April 15 and shutting down spring quarter overseas studies programs. ?? #coronavirus https://t.co/f1ow5pRM23

— Ken Schultz (@KSchultz3580) March 5, 2020

Every American should watch this. https://t.co/0IDdgiBLvl

— COVID19 (@V2019N) March 5, 2020

Wow https://t.co/CwPEPk5ov2

— Garance Franke-Ruta (@thegarance) March 6, 2020

Still not testing per CDC expanded guidelines. America is not prepared, nor responding to this epidemic properly. https://t.co/6DQnfoyiGH

— Eric Feigl-Ding (@DrEricDing) March 5, 2020

This is a thoughtful move on Microsoft's part and I hope every major tech company in the Seattle area that's asking employees to work from home also takes into account the hourly employees who could be impacted (e.g. cafeteria workers) & makes them whole.https://t.co/l44Ya5tTfZ pic.twitter.com/jVsQR8mnyi

— Dare Obasanjo (@Carnage4Life) March 6, 2020

Anyone else remember the phrase ‘amusing ourselves to death’?

France and Israel have banned gatherings of more than 5000 people. Switzerland of more than 1000 people. And the US goes ahead with 100,000 people gathering in area of most serious #covid19 outbreak in the country?! Hard to see this really happening https://t.co/DGHNTTjkuY

— Kai Kupferschmidt (@kakape) March 5, 2020

I am in a private #ECCC Facebook group, and folks, let me tell you: COVID-19 is going to be worse in America than anywhere else in the world. Everyone is worried the con will be cancelled and repeating "it's basically a cold." Anyone canceling their plans to attend is ridiculed.

— Patera Quetzal (@PateraQuetzaI) March 6, 2020

Folks are much more concerned about the status paid photo op with Walter Koenig than whether Koenig (83 years old) might contract the coronavirus. "Wash your hands, you'll be fine." The Funko lottery comes up a LOT.

— Patera Quetzal (@PateraQuetzaI) March 6, 2020

This is in Seattle, the Hot Zone, with 70 confirmed cases and a likely hidden 1500+. People's parents and grandparents will die because other people can't bring themselves to miss a con-exclusive T-shirt. America is going to have worse infection rates than a 3rd world country.

— Patera Quetzal (@PateraQuetzaI) March 6, 2020

Cameo from a blog (anti-)fave. Wrapped in the tweet where I saw it, because no I do *not* followe McCardle:

I think important thoughts like "man, 9/11 really must have hurt Zoolander's box office performance, what would the world look like if September 11th was the day of Male Models" https://t.co/2sReV5osRI

— L Ron Hubbard's Space Jazz (@MenshevikM) March 5, 2020

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  1. 1.

    PeakVT

    March 6, 2020 at 5:45 am

    McAddled and Santelli are garbage human beings.

  2. 2.

    hells littlest angel

    March 6, 2020 at 6:18 am

    By a 20-point margin, Americans say Trump’s handling of the Coronavirus makes them less likely to vote for him.

     

    How the fuck is it ONLY a 20-point margin?

  3. 3.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 6:20 am

    Chuck Todd just said too much Covid-19 testing could overwhelm labs. Taking bothsideserism to parodic levels.

    — Helen Kennedy (@HelenKennedy) March 5, 2020

    #1: It’s true.

    There is no way our labs will be able to keep up with the sudden increase in demands for lab results, at the very least in the short term. While I have no idea what exactly it will take to scale up, I do know it’s not gonna be as simple as calling the local temp agency and hiring some folks for a few weeks or months. a) we are in a time of full employment and b) people will have to be trained, and c) the equipment has to be acquired

    #2: Is this not a useful fact for the medical care consuming public to be aware of? It certainly is something I had not considered as I have been pondering a urine test because of some bladder discomfort. If I do have one it now occurs to me that instead of the usual 3-5 business day turnaround on test results it might instead be 2-3 weeks.

    Duh.

    Jeebus, I know Chuck Todd isn’t the most astute observer in the news media, BUT… if “both sides” is your interpretation of this very nonpartisan news, you aren’t exactly the sharpest crayon in the box yourself.

  4. 4.

    Chyron HR

    March 6, 2020 at 6:21 am

    France and Israel have banned gatherings of more than 5000 people. Switzerland of more than 1000 people. And the US goes ahead with 100,000 people gathering in area of most serious #covid19 outbreak in the country?! Hard to see this really happening

    THESE COLORS DON’T RUN!
    MY PRONOUNS ARE FUCK AND YOU!
    USA! USA! USA!

  5. 5.

    germy

    March 6, 2020 at 6:22 am

    Simple question, can the uninsured get tested? Your government in action. ⚡️ pic.twitter.com/EARQcEA55j— SUSAN BRANCH (@dearsusanbranch) March 5, 2020

  6. 6.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 6:23 am

    @hells littlest angel: trump’s support has been hanging around 40% since he got elected. Thru thick and thin his base sticks with him no matter what idiocy he commits. If they start dying off you can expect them to be most grateful for his thoughts and prayers.

  7. 7.

    Chyron HR

    March 6, 2020 at 6:24 am

    @hells littlest angel:

    Half of the country would never have voted for him to begin with.

  8. 8.

    hells littlest angel

    March 6, 2020 at 6:28 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Yes, and I imagine a lot of his supporters are thrilled that their doomsday prepping might finally pay off.

  9. 9.

    germy

    March 6, 2020 at 6:34 am

    Mitch McConnell threatens to block everything if Trump loses in 2020 https://t.co/DAIWv3uxhp

    — Georgiana Steele-Wal (@georgeegirl) March 5, 2020

    Wow, what a terrifying prospect. All our wonderful bills would just sit on his desk, instead of …

    *checks notes*

    … just sitting on his desk?

    That would be horrible! https://t.co/bHOrg8BfxS

    — hilzoy (@hilzoy) March 5, 2020

  10. 10.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    March 6, 2020 at 6:35 am

    @hells littlest angel:

    How the fuck is it ONLY a 20-point margin?

    It would be hard for any of us here to say that his handling of the crisis makes us less likely to vote for him.

  11. 11.

    Betty Cracker

    March 6, 2020 at 6:40 am

    You’ll be shocked to hear Florida is bungling its C-19 response, but it will be okay anyway since it’s not like we have a large elderly population or anything…

    Here’s a link to a story about a woman who took a domestic flight with a fellow passenger who was later determined to be infected. The woman was flying with a friend who lives in the next county over. They weren’t informed that they were at risk until they’d been home and out and about for a few days, and each received wildly different instructions on what to do to contain the risk.

    The woman featured in the story hasn’t shown symptoms yet, but she visited her elderly mother before being told she was at risk:

    After she returned to Florida, and days before the governor’s announcement of the first cases, Nemeth-Harn said, she visited her 82-year-old mother, who is healthy and lives at home with a boyfriend. Nemeth-Harn had dinner with friends last Friday, one of whom she said was scheduled for surgery this week, possibly for a cardiac procedure.

    Okay, gotta stop here and give respect to Nemeth-Harn’s mom: age 82 and living with her boyfriend? You go, lady! Hope the public health response didn’t needlessly endanger her.

    I live one county over from the inland county that contains the sprawling retirement megopolis known as The Villages. If the disease spreads through the retirement communities there and elsewhere in the state — and unless sheer dumb luck prevents it, it appears nothing else will — it could be catastrophic.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    March 6, 2020 at 6:44 am

    @germy:

    I love the smell of flop sweat in the morning.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 6:45 am

    @hells littlest angel: You can be sure they are fully stocked with ammo for their AR-15s for when the brown hordes storm their castles in an attempt to steal their food, water, and medicines. Wait a minute… Food? Water? Medicines?

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 6:47 am

    @Betty Cracker: Go Cougars!

  15. 15.

    marv

    March 6, 2020 at 6:49 am

    @Chyron HR: 
    “MY PRONOUNS ARE FUCK AND YOU!”

    Your own? My nominee for a rotating tag, as well as best non sequitur and best sentence of the day. Sorry not to have it in block quote, but at least for the first time in my life I tried.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    March 6, 2020 at 6:50 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    I look forward to the Villages voting for Biden after Trump’s CDC tells the olds they need to stop fucking each other all the time.

  17. 17.

    hells littlest angel

    March 6, 2020 at 6:52 am

    @germy: Such an evil man. Does Mitch McConnell know there’s a real Grim Reaper, and it’s got a special hankering for old men right about now?

  18. 18.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 7:02 am

    It appears that after celebrating Biden’s strong showing on Super Tuesday, Wall street came to the realization that trump is still president:

    US stock markets closed sharply lower again on Thursday as fears about fallout from the virus outbreak sent more shudders through the financial world.

    The Dow Jones sank 968 points, or 3.6%, wiping out most of its surge of 1,173 points a day earlier. Treasury yields sank to more record lows as investors plowed money into low-risk investments.

  19. 19.

    Lapassionara

    March 6, 2020 at 7:03 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: there’s a simple UTI test kit in most drug stores. Made by AZO.

    good morning, everyone.

  20. 20.

    Tony Jay

    March 6, 2020 at 7:03 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Devil’s Advocate here. Hi.

    While you’re right that people should and would want to know that America’s lab testing facilities are going to be put under a lot of strain by this pandemic, ISTM that the “both-siderism” comes in with the phrasing.

    As in, “too much Covid-19 testing could overwhelm labs”. Too much? What’s too much? Trump is the one saying not to worry and the whole panic is Fake News, while actual professionals are warning that the refusal to quarantine and test large numbers of people they know to be exhibiting signs of early Coronavirus is going to lead to a huge bulge in infection rates as those people pass it on in the period between diagnosis and the onset of pneumonia/bronchial symptoms.

    If Todd had simply said that “large scale testing, as advised by medical professionals, could overwhelm labs” he would be passing on the important information without rhetorically covering for President Pissyface.

    OTOH, I have no idea if the phrasing in Helen Kennedy’s tweet is the actual phrasing Todd used, so this could all be pointless flaffle. Which I’m sure you’d agree is entirely encased within my wheelhouse.

  21. 21.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2020 at 7:05 am

    The Scott Gottlieb and follow-on tweets re: Comic-con made me think of Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six. In it, the bad guys plan to wipe out most of the world’s population by secretly dosing up the Sydney Olympics attendees with a particularly virulent, and highly transmissible, strain of a mutated Ebola virus.
    Thank FSM the “racist morons adults are in charge” in the US. Because what could go worng?

  22. 22.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2020 at 7:08 am

    @Tony Jay:

    pointless flaffle.

    If that’s what you want, switch to Eggo; their flaffles are round.

  23. 23.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2020 at 7:14 am

    @hells littlest angel:

    Does Mitch McConnell know there’s a real Grim Reaper, and it’s got a special hankering for old men right about now?

    Few things would be better for the country than if he were to get COVID-19. Especially if the transmission method were a PACCAR 12-speed in a Kenworth T880 doing about 70.

  24. 24.

    NotMax

    March 6, 2020 at 7:17 am

    @SFAW

    Demure golf clap.

    :)

  25. 25.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2020 at 7:23 am

    @Baud:

    I look forward to the Villages voting for Biden after Trump’s CDC tells the olds they need to stop fucking each other all the time.

    And I look forward to winning PowerBall. The probability of which is only slightly less than your scenario. [NB: Assumes Shitgibbon and his minions screw over the browns more than they screw over those geniuses in The Villages.]

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @Tony Jay:ISTM that the “both-siderism” comes in with the phrasing.

    As in, “too much Covid-19 testing could overwhelm labs”. Too much? What’s too much?

    Sorry, I don’t see anything approaching both siderism there, what I see is at worst bad phrasing, and to be honest I don’t even see that. To me, “Too much” just means more than the system can handle.

    shrug

    People can have entirely different interpretations of words simply because of their past experiences with an individual. I read folks here all the time complaining about how bad Chuck Todd is with the both sider BS. But I’m not at all sure I have ever personally witnessed it because I don’t have TV and have only seen clips of him on at most a handful of occasions (1? 2?). It is not that I doubt folks interpretation, I have read the quotes and he is not the brightest bulb in the news box, but I have no particular loathing for the man because I never see him.

    I think that distance allows me to see his words in this case as just that, his words in this case. I feel no need to put them in any other context than ‘this is what’s happening with covid 19’. Like you, “I have no idea if the phrasing in Helen Kennedy’s tweet is the actual phrasing Todd used,” and if in fact he mentioned trump, Republicans, Democrats, Pelosi or gave it any other political context I may change my opinion, but I’m not gonna go searching because I really don’t care all that much.

    Besides, this is the internet and if one can’t give opinions based on incomplete facts here, where can one?

  27. 27.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 7:34 am

    @SFAW: Oooofff, between you and NotMax…

  28. 28.

    OzarkHillbilly

    March 6, 2020 at 7:38 am

    @Lapassionara: And thank you.

  29. 29.

    Searcher

    March 6, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @hells littlest angel: Maybe people with bottomed out opinions are being honest that there was never any chance they’d vote for Trump?

  30. 30.

    Cameron

    March 6, 2020 at 7:53 am

    @Betty Cracker: And how far-sighted of the legislature and former Gov. Bat Boy to refuse the Medicaid expansion!

  31. 31.

    Steeplejack

    March 6, 2020 at 8:04 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I think the objectionable (or possibly just ill-phrased) part of Todd’s quote is “too much Covid-19 testing”—as if people would be doing it frivolously.

  32. 32.

    Ken

    March 6, 2020 at 8:09 am

    @Steeplejack: A variant of the anti-ACA argument that all the newly-insured will overwhelm the system with elective heart transplants?

  33. 33.

    Ken

    March 6, 2020 at 8:21 am

    People used to joke that Obama could resolve many of his political problems by recording a PSA advising people not to drink bleach.  We may see how effective that would have been, now that Trump has told people not to bother with hand-washing and to go to work when sick.

  34. 34.

    ant

    March 6, 2020 at 8:24 am

    I wonder if the Feds are filling up our strategic petroleum reserves. Seems like a good time for that.

  35. 35.

    SFAW

    March 6, 2020 at 8:34 am

    @Ken: Maybe. I think that the Trumpistas would much rather give Obama a big “fuck you!” than follow Trump’s “helpful” advice. [Only because those morons seem to be driven more by racism/hatred than “enlightened” [sic] self interest.]

  36. 36.

    Ksmiami

    March 6, 2020 at 8:36 am

    @PeakVT: most Trump supporters are too. garbage people all. no quarter

  37. 37.

    Another Scott

    March 6, 2020 at 9:14 am

    ‘morning.

    3 cases were confirmed in Maryland yesterday – https://wtop.com/local/2020/03/coronavirus-test-results-in-dc-maryland-and-virginia/

    https://wtop.com/maryland/2020/03/gov-hogan-maryland-has-first-positive-cases-of-coronavirus/

    I assume the national press based here will start taking things a little more seriously since it’s very soon going to be affecting them personally. And Donnie’s minions, also too.

    Grr…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  38. 38.

    PenAndKey

    March 6, 2020 at 9:23 am

    @Ken: We may see how effective that would have been, now that Trump has told people not to bother with hand-washing and to go to work when sick.

    I’ll give you the hand washing, but given that we’re a country where most employees can’t afford a two week “self-quarantine” without losing their job or falling behind on their mortgage you’re going to get the second half of that whether the orange menace recommends it or not.

  39. 39.

    lurkypants

    March 6, 2020 at 10:15 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: This is right up lamh’s alley, isn’t it?

  40. 40.

    Jay

    March 6, 2020 at 11:03 am

    @Tony Jay:

    thank you Tony.

    How’s Brexit Britain doing with Covid19?

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