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Late Night Schadenfreude Open Thread: Some DNC Convention Reviews

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Because we have standards here, Mr. Cole!


*Snf* No short-lived ‘foreign affairs’…

… Traditionally, diplomats swarm the Republican and Democratic conventions — filling their schedules with cocktail parties and breakfast meetings with party insiders, seeking to gather any information they can about who is who and the policies they favor.

They’re looking to meet America’s current power brokers and future leaders, all with a view to developing helpful relationships and getting a better understanding of how an American election might affect the political relationship and economic and strategic ties with their country — all of which gets written up and sent back to foreign capitals around the world.

“You can’t replace the personal interactions,” said one ambassador. “It is just not the same thing.”…

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Of course, some people didn’t care for it…


(NB: Trent is a *former* AOC aide & advisor, because she’s smarter than that.)

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Now, that doesn’t mean that they get to pick the game plan in the midterms, when we start primarying their a–es. And it don’t mean that they get to pick the game plan when we start recruiting for 2024 and we primary their a–es.”

    whose “asses” are they going to primary, exactly? the people who flipped red seats to blue? Connor Lamb? Lauren Underwood? Sharice Davids? Senators like Bennet and Hassan?

  2. 2.

    mrmoshpotato

    People are describing this as a “badass boat parade on land”.

    BWHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Sooooo……a parade?

  3. 3.

    mrmoshpotato

    Because we have standards here, Mr. Cole!

    Technically, Mr. Weiss is wearing shorts.  Why are you glaring at me through the Internet?

  4. 4.

    frosty

    I’ve been wearing Ray Ban Wayfarers since the 80s … I’m going to have to go back to aviators now, won’t I? If there are any in stock.

    I gave them up for regular glasses when the optician said “Many of our older gentlemen like these.”
    I guess me and Joe are the older gentlemen now. Sigh.

  5. 5.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    “They’re more powerful and willing to flex their muscle. . . . There will definitely not be a honeymoon period for Joe Biden,” said Waleed Shahid, a spokesman for Justice Democrats. “Increasingly the progressive caucus and the Squad will get better at organizing to pass legislation and improve legislation that the party leadership is pushing.”

    There will definitely not be a honeymoon period for Joe Biden,” said Waleed Shahid,

    what an asshole

    Democrats’ hopes of taking the Senate depend on a group that IIANM counts John Hickenlooper as its most leftist member

  7. 7.

    trollhattan

    At 302k acres the LNU Fire, stretching north from Vacaville, is now California’s second largest ever. 15% contained, so far from done spreading. Ugh.

  8. 8.

    mrmoshpotato

    Joe Biden, like Obama last night, is doing something we haven’t seen in a long time: A leader is speaking to Americans like they are adults, capable of hearing bad news, and able to rise to challenges, instead of children who need entertainment and fairytales.

    Apparently 4 years is a long time to Tom Nichols.  Fuck you, Tom.  Hillary spoke to us like we were adults too.

  9. 9.

    trollhattan

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I think I spotted Waleed and Beaver at the soda shop. Eddie Haskell was giving them quite a ribbing, believe you me.

    Now STFU Waleed. Y’all get him elected instead of whining that you’re not in power and we can see whether you have any, going forward.

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @frosty: I still have a pair of black Wayfarers that I bought in 1983, and I bought a pair of tortoiseshell ones about two years ago.*  Aviators just don’t work for me.  Joe can have them.

    *My 18 y/o style obsessed nephew got a pair of black ones this spring.

  12. 12.

    mrmoshpotato

    Traditionally, diplomats swarm the Republican and Democratic conventions — filling their schedules with cocktail parties and breakfast meetings with party insiders, seeking to gather any information they can about who is who and the policies they favor.

    Well there another reason to never have these conventions in-person ever again!  Some people’s work doesn’t speak for itself I guess.

  15. 15.

    mrmoshpotato

    I won’t vote for Joe Biden. But I’ll admit that following this convention, and watching tonight particularly, has made me want to be a better dad.

    Does this dude even have children?

  18. 18.

    trollhattan

    @mrmoshpotato:

    TBF these four have been very, very long. But if he can cite the last time a Republican gave a calm, adult speech then we can get out our special geological time clocks to estimate how long it’s been.

    This century? Has there been one?

  19. 19.

    Baud

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    There will definitely not be a honeymoon period for Joe Biden,” said Waleed Shahid, a spokesman for Justice Democrats. “Increasingly the progressive caucus and the Squad will get better at organizing to pass legislation and improve legislation that the party leadership is pushing.”

    The first sentence does not match the second. Does he think a “honeymoon” period prevents legislators from passing laws?

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Baud: The other thing is if the Squad pass some progressive legislation – that is, legislation that passes the House and Senate – Biden will have no problem signing it.

  23. 23.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud: Yeah, but when Hillary did it, it reminded Tom of his ex, or something. This is totally different.

    Did you hear a low rumble?  It was me groaning.

  25. 25.

    mrmoshpotato

    @trollhattan:

    TBF these four have been very, very long. But if he can cite the last time a Republican gave a calm, adult speech then we can get out our special geological time clocks to estimate how long it’s been.

    This century? Has there been one?

    In Russthuglican time, this century goes back to Ike. :)

  27. 27.

    Mai naem mobile

    I think the Dems did an awesome job but i am not going to feel comfortable till 1/22/2021 with the Dems in control of the trifecta.
    Meanwhile,, I am waiting for the RNC state roll call which I believe will sound like an extended version of Dear Leader’s ‘cabinet’ meetings where they all praise him like he’s the combo version of the Jesus’ second coming , FDR, Rockefeller and Lincoln.

  29. 29.

    Martin

    @trollhattan: Damn. It was 100K yesterday. 15% ain’t nothing though. That’s almost certainly the part facing communities and not the part facing trees.

  30. 30.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Baud: Yep.  Everyone wins.  That’s what is so bizarre to me.  Do the leftists really think that the rest of us don’t actually want universal healthcare, fairer taxation, and affordable quality education?

  31. 31.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Mai naem mobile: Meanwhile,, I am waiting for the RNC state roll call which I believe will sound like an extended version of Dear Leader’s ‘cabinet’ meetings where they all praise him like he’s the combo version of the Jesus’ second coming , FDR, Rockefeller and Lincoln.

    I’ll take a mean hangover from the previous night’s drinking instead.

  33. 33.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Omnes Omnibus: Do the leftists really think that the rest of us don’t actually want universal healthcare, fairer taxation, and affordable quality education?

    They hate us for laughing about the promise of unicorn butlers that shit rainbows out of their eyes.

  35. 35.

    ruemara

    AOC is definitely not smarter than that, but she’s canny enough to know when to cut dead weight. These fuckers. I don’t plan to watch the RNC convention because getting decent numbers would make Trump happy and I like to deny him even so much as a pot to piss in.

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes. They, much like QAnon folk, think Dems are truly evil that they are unfortunately forced to work with. But in truth, I don’t consider them leftists. You can’t be left and be so wholly stupid.

  36. 36.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud: I’m just here for the taco trucks.

    You have less than 3 months for some racist Russthuglican spokesghoul to claim that Biden’s election will result in “taco trucks every corner.”

    Good luck.

  38. 38.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    That’s what is so bizarre to me.  Do the leftists really think that the rest of us don’t actually want universal healthcare, fairer taxation, and affordable quality education?

    Yes.  The only people preventing these nice things from passing are corporate Democrats.

  39. 39.

    mrmoshpotato

    @ruemara: You can’t be left and be so wholly stupid.

    Or left and also hate the Democratic party because “WWWAAAHHHH!!!!  No pure enough!”  Ok children, run along.

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Omnes Omnibus: Who’s to say the taco trucks wouldn’t have empanadas?

    Also, the tamale guys showing up late at night at bars rule!  Stupid virus!

    ETA – how about some governing news?

  45. 45.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes. there’s this pervasive myth about Biden, that he would veto any attempt at M4A.

    Turns out it’s rooted in a statement where Buden said he would veto M4A… if it didn’t make any sense in terms of funding. Which is very different, unless you want to admit that M4A can’t ever be funded properly.

     

    But they’ve decided that Biden (and the Establishment) doesn’t actually want to help anyone, which you can tell because they weren’t magically able to solve all the nation’s problems over Republican intransigence.

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    @MisterForkbeard: This line from President Obama’s DNC speech hit especially hard:

    Democracy was never meant to be transactional—you give me your vote; I make everything better.

  52. 52.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    A classic @corbintrent zinger in this @rachaelmbade joint about how, in 2021, the left will likely be less gentle with Biden than they are now.

    Hilarious. They can’t do a Dems in Disarray now, instead they’re left with Dems in Disarray future fan fiction.

    Sad!

  53. 53.

    Geminid

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch:  Corbin Trent and Saikat Chakrabarti were instrumental in putting AOC in Congress, when their Justice Democrats recruited her and with the help of NYC Democratic Democratic Socialists surprised Joe Crowley in the NY 14th primary. So far so good. But then, they flew her and the junior senator from Vermont to Kansas to campaign for two Bernie bro congressional candidates. One candidate almost knocked out Sharice Davids, a very strong candidate who went on to flip her district. Saikat and Corbin would have done better to drop AOC off in Chicago, where Marie Neuman would come up just short in her her challenge to Ted Lipinski. But Neuman was not a Bernie bro.           AOC has grown as a congresswoman, but mostly after she cut Trent and Chakrabarti loose last August. Chakrabarti is laying low, but I see Trent is still his pugnacious, pissy self.

  54. 54.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    @Geminid: I wasn’t clear, I meant the press.  Things have been going well so they can’t do their usual disarray shtick, so they pathetically turn to fiction about future dystopic disarray.

  56. 56.

    Geminid

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: I now see what you meant . And Trent is on the sidelines for the time being. After his slipshod FAQ for the Green New Deal helped sandbag the Markey/AOC proposal, he’ll probably stay on the sidelines. There will be plenty of left vs Democratic leadership controversy this winter, but if there is Democratic control of the Senate and House in the new Congress I’ll consider that a minor problem. I compare the “Left” to a cup of cappuccino that’s all froth.

  57. 57.

    Geminid

    Some anecdotal evidence of the effect of Biden’s acceptance speech: I’ve worked for an upper middle class couple over the last 15 years-landscape construction, planting, maintenance etc. I’ve gotten to be friends with Jane and we talk politics some. They are what used to be called “Volvo Republicans,” socially liberal, fiscally conservative. I guess you could call them Range Rover Republicans now (and she in fact does drive a Range Rover). Anyway, Jane had bought into the bullshit about Biden being in mental decline, but she watched his speech and came away with a much more open mind about his capabilities.            This couple voted for trump, but I believe Jane when she says they voted for Obama in 2008. They are friends with two other couples I’ve worked for. I’m pretty sure the group split 3-3 in 2016, but I’m guessing they will go 5-1 if not 6-6 for Biden this year.                   This particular demographic cohort is not that numerous, and I believe Rachel Bitecofer’s thesis that bringing out the large registered-but don’t vote crowd has greater effect than “conversion stategies” i.e. flipping republicans. But the vote of someone who comes off the fence in November and votes for Biden counts as much as the vote of someone who hates trump with the heat of five thousand suns, and I want every vote we can get. A landslide would put the Democrats in a stronger position for their legislative campaign in next year’s Congress.

  58. 58.

    Sloane Ranger

    @Sally: Unlike some of the speculation in the previous thread, I never had any doubts that it would.

    They held him in Siberia long enough for evidence of whatever they gave him to clear his system or be masked by drugs given to “treat” him. Now, if he survives, it will take a long time for him to fully recover (if he ever does) and if he dies, better it happen in a foreign hospital than in Mother Russia.

  60. 60.

    Ken

    From the reports, Glenn Weiss and the DNC were working together for months to prepare and produce the convention, including installing that control center in his living room.  Let’s see, two months ago… I’m fairly sure Trump was still confident they’d be having it in-person in Florida. So the RNC may be a little behind in prep work.

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    I gotta stop listening to NPR interviewing “Democrats” about their feelings toward the Dem candidate. In 2016, it was that moron who said “Give me a reason to vote for Clinton, but without using the words ‘Donald Trump’ or ‘Supreme Court.’ ” Yesterday, it was two out of three expressing their displeasure: with Biden not being lefty enough, with the Convention not having enough young people speak, with Biden not being lefty enough, with Dems speaking more about unity than about how they’re going to provide a rainbow-shitting unicorn in every pot, with Biden (presumably, as in, what they presume will happen) not having any lefty persons as his advisers.

    To be fair: one of the persons sounded rational, and was all-in for Biden (OK, maybe some confirmation bias on my part).

     

    But the other two made me want to emulate the end of the car chase in Bullitt.

  62. 62.

    Geminid

    @SFAW: Yeah, those lefties also get me reaching for my pitchfork. But I will credit the Justice Democrats for leading me to this forum. I was researching the JDs when I came across a post by some guy named Adam Silverman, in the oddly named Balloon Juice.

  63. 63.

    SFAW

    @Geminid:

    I was researching the JDs when I came across a post by some guy named Adam Silverman, in the oddly named Balloon Juice.

    I’ve heard of that joint; buncha jackals spewing vitriol.

    But inquiring “minds” want to know: why would you ever want to research the Justice Dems? Other than as penance?

  64. 64.

    Geminid

    @SFAW: When I saw all the hoopla attending AOC’s win over Crowley I wanted to find out more about the group that sponsored her. I’m probably in the “moderate” wing of the Democratic Party, but I keep a weather eye on the left.  Just like I keep track of the republicans, especially in my own state of Virginia.

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