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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / Biden-Harris 2020 / Monday Morning Open Thread: (Facing the) Labor Day

Monday Morning Open Thread: (Facing the) Labor Day

by Anne Laurie|  September 7, 20206:09 am| 184 Comments

This post is in: Biden-Harris 2020, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat

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NEW: Anita Hill vows to vote for Joe Biden and will work with him on gender issues if he becomes president https://t.co/Milqx917Ja pic.twitter.com/WMwcLsH1Ax

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) September 5, 2020


Thank you, Professor Hill!

(I know she probably isn’t interested, but can I fantasize about her replacing Clarence Thomas?)

“At the roundtable, Senator Harris will discuss how a Biden-Harris administration would advance racial equity as part of our nation’s economic recovery,” per campaign release on the events

— Molly Beck (@MollyBeck) September 6, 2020


In a time of disruption and unrest, the presidential race has changed little https://t.co/4ZHy2aRHat

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) September 6, 2020

… At the traditional Labor Day kickoff to the fall campaign, the race remains former vice president Joe Biden’s to lose — which of course could still happen. Trump has tried many things over the past months in an effort to avoid becoming a one-term president. So far, nothing has proved to be the magic potion the president seems to believe is out there…

The race for president has tightened a bit since early summer, when Biden enjoyed a lead, based on a national average of polls in the range of nine-plus percentage points. It, however, has not tightened noticeably since mid-August, just before the two national conventions. Before the Democratic convention, the FiveThirtyEight.com numbers showed Biden with a lead nationally of between seven and eight points. His lead after the Republican convention stands at between seven and eight points…

It is rather telling that the majority of conversations about the election start out from the premise that things can't possibly be as they seem, and work backward from Trump somehow winning or nipping at Biden's heels.

— Liam Donovan (@LPDonovan) September 6, 2020

These are the people who are running a campaign based entirely on "Hey, did you hear what Joe said the other day? What a crazy old coot!" https://t.co/riAyjDUV44

— Slava Malamud (@SlavaMalamud) September 5, 2020

am I yet again being threatened with a good time https://t.co/huqeOnBXQo

— kilgore trout, non mini-stroke haver (@KT_So_It_Goes) September 5, 2020

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  1. 1.

    dopey-o

    September 7, 2020 at 6:25 am

    I would like to see Anita Hill nominated to the seat Ginzburg will vacate. Just to see Hill and Thomas side by side, with Professor Hill brutally dissecting Thomas’ dissents and foolery.

  2. 2.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 6:27 am

    Holidays don’t seem like holidays this year. This Labor Day, spending it inside and not being able to even go to the store (too many reasons to get into) and watching socially distanced fireworks last night.

    This would be a good reason to vote Biden-so they can find a cure, a vaccine, even a less stressful time of it. No more drama-Trump’s bad drama no less

    And I can at least have my holidays back.

  3. 3.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 6:29 am

    @dopey-o:  She’s certainly as qualified as Thomas-and maybe she’d make him quit before having to sit with her in chambers.

  4. 4.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 6:30 am

    Blech.

  5. 5.

    Lapassionara

    September 7, 2020 at 6:42 am

    @CarolDuhart2: One of many good reasons to vote for Biden. Imagine what a national pandemic strategy would do for us.

  6. 6.

    rikyrah

    September 7, 2020 at 6:45 am

    Good Morning, Everyone ???

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    September 7, 2020 at 6:45 am

    @Lapassionara:

    A REAL NATIONAL STRATEGY

  8. 8.

    JPL

    September 7, 2020 at 6:45 am

    double blech

    The Washington Post editorial yesterday was about the president setting the tone for the nation.   Just that alone should be reason to boot this guy out of office.

  9. 9.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 6:49 am

    This year finds me more thankful than ever for Obama’s choice and vetting.  Biden is everything we need: experienced, compassionate-and a 78 year old.  One good thing about being 78 is they can’t even invent a scandal anymore.  They talk about Biden’s nearly 50 years in Congress, but that means that he’s gone through so much oppo stuff that nobody has anything left to find.  Anything would have either come out by now, or Obama would have found it, and both of those facts means there’s really no October Surprise.  Even possible. People would yawn and wonder what’s the deal?

    Astonished at Biden’s teflon and enduring lead.  Still nervous about November shenanagins, but at least I won’t have to worry about self-destructive stuff from our side.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    September 7, 2020 at 6:51 am

    @rikyrah:  Good morning.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    September 7, 2020 at 6:56 am

    If Trump voters are shy, polling is bunk.

    Which is something Nate doesn’t want to talk about.

  12. 12.

    Jeffro

    September 7, 2020 at 6:56 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

     

    @Lapassionara:

     

    @rikyrah: Amen!

    Biden ad: “Can you imagine four more years of limping along like this, losing over 1,000 Americans a day?”

    Land.slide.

  13. 13.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 6:57 am

    “Good morning” to everyone who’s up on a holiday morning.  Also good cheer to those who used to sleep in because they had jobs to go to , and jobs to go to.  Commuting isn’t the same when it’s downstairs or in the garage, is it?  You slept in to get extra sleep before having to get up Tuesday morning. 30 million lost jobs later.  My family is doing okay so far-we have cops and medical workers and other essential workers in our family-so they still have work, and extra risk. My niece does medical coding-and she’s having some issues, but not health ones-and there’s such a shortage they can’t replace her.

  14. 14.

    Geminid

    September 7, 2020 at 7:03 am

    I read that Congresswoman Xochitl Torres-Small  has a very slight lead in her reelection race in the NM 2nd district. The Albuquerque Journal had her up 47%-45%. The district is pretty much the southern half of New Mexico. This years race is a rematch with the woman Torres-Small edged out in 2018, by less than 4,000 votes.

  15. 15.

    Sally

    September 7, 2020 at 7:05 am

    @CarolDuhart2: We can all get our lives back! With President Biden in the White House.

  16. 16.

    WereBear

    September 7, 2020 at 7:06 am

    I just don’t know what to say any more. Which is rare for me.

    These people can’t think. After all the nation has gone through, they still won’t consider joining us on the sane side of the world.

    We need a giant mental health initiative, all right. Or something.

  17. 17.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 7:07 am

    I’m already seeing ads for nurses training all over the place.  Along with funeral homes.

    If you have a bachelor’s degree, you can go into an 18 month nursing program and get your R.N.  Soon I expect to see all the medical assistants, coders, and even some medical schools advertise for new people.  This is the effect of the pandemic-not only medical workers who have died, but others who decide to quit or retire due to burnout or health issues.

    There will also soon be ads for all sorts of service workers teachers and school personnel, child care services, and even some funeral workers-and they will be filled with ex-airline personnel, bartenders and such.

    Hopefully we will have a retraining policy that doesn’t put these people thousands in debt-and by the way, we should once again make grants so generous that only the most expensive specialties need to be financed with loans.

  18. 18.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 7:10 am

    Uncertain if ever tossed this into the mix. Apologies if turns out it is a rerun.

    A man called Horse? A boy named Sue? Small potatoes.

    Preserved Fish and Wankard Pooser and more at a site am tickled to have come across.

  19. 19.

    MagdaInBlack

    September 7, 2020 at 7:13 am

    @WereBear:

    These people have chosen not to think, because it’s so much easier to let authority figures provide simple answers

    Eta: They turned their brains off a long time ago.

  20. 20.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 7:15 am

    @CarolDuhart2: Here’s our RN to BSN online for  $5700

  21. 21.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 7, 2020 at 7:18 am

    @CarolDuhart2: I used to sleep in on the holidays too. Now we have a dog.

  22. 22.

    Warblewarble

    September 7, 2020 at 7:19 am

    What Barr does for tRUMP,tRUMP does for Putin. Circle of jerks.

  23. 23.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 7:21 am

    @NotMax: You want weird turn on TCM for the Leon Russel film “A Poem is a Naked Person”

  24. 24.

    WereBear

    September 7, 2020 at 7:25 am

    @raven: Thanks, you sure know weird stuff when you see it:)

  25. 25.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 7:28 am

    @WereBear: Leon hated it and really disliked Les Blank but he liked his son so he let him release it after Les died. Some good concert footage but, whoah. . .

  26. 26.

    Geminid

    September 7, 2020 at 7:28 am

    @Geminid: The New Mexico 2nd district was carried by trump in 2016 by 10 points. The Albuquerque Journal poll showed trump up by 4 points this year.

  27. 27.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 7:28 am

    Temps sustained so hot over the past several days that the wrist rest attached to the mouse pad has softened to the point where the gel has begun leaking.

    /1st world problems

  28. 28.

    prufrock

    September 7, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @Baud:  It has been my experience that a universal symptom of being a Trump voter is that you let everyone know.

  29. 29.

    cmorenc

    September 7, 2020 at 7:32 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    If you have a bachelor’s degree, you can go into an 18 month nursing program and get your R.N.

    That’s a brutally arduous way to get a BSN degree – my younger daughter entered an 18-month degree track, and wound up having to stretch it out to 24 months to make the workload doable for her.  While the coursework isn’t as demandingly intense as medical school for an M.D., it’s nonetheless a steady firehose of techical info coming at nursing students and not at all an easy cruise.

  30. 30.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 7, 2020 at 7:35 am

    We used to try to travel on a 3-day weekend because if we stayed home, the third day was boring. No one was around and Jerry Lewis was on the TV. Now every day is the same.

    I know we’re lucky. We’re healthy and aren’t worried about paying our bills. But it’s wearing.

    I’m writing again. That helps.

  31. 31.

    Baud

    September 7, 2020 at 7:35 am

    @prufrock:

    Loose lips sink ships boat parades.

  32. 32.

    Patricia Kayden

    September 7, 2020 at 7:37 am

    Meanwhile, across the pond.

    In case anyone was anxious that social norms would rebound too quickly as people start to discount the risk of covid, I (reluctantly) went to a bar last night and I can report that people were literally licking strangers, to get salt off their arms for tequila shots.— Tom Dolphin ??? WASH YOUR HANDS (@thomasdolphin) September 6, 2020

  33. 33.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 7, 2020 at 7:40 am

    I missed the “what are you watching” thread last night because I was asleep. But we finished Mrs. Maisel and started an old show we found on Amazon Prime, Hamish McBeth. It’s fun.

  34. 34.

    randy khan

    September 7, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @Baud:

    First, the last word I’d use to describe Trump supporters is shy.

    But the “shy voter” hypothesis shows up a lot without much evidence that it’s ever been real when it comes to candidates.  There are some things that people can be shy about, such as specific positions on issues, but the reality is that polling is pretty good on the whole because people who are willing to talk to pollsters tell the truth.

  35. 35.

    WereBear

    September 7, 2020 at 7:41 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Someone on Twitter was looking for a new series for her niece and I pointed her at your work :)

  36. 36.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 7, 2020 at 7:42 am

    @Patricia Kayden: EW, corona or no.  Just give people packets of salt, will ya? Nasty.

  37. 37.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 7:45 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor

    Was pleased when Prime eventually got around to including the third MacBeth season. Gently surreal diversion with amiable Hamish, TV John and the rest.

  38. 38.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 7:49 am

    @dopey-o: I would like to see Anita Hill nominated to the seat Ginzburg will vacate.

    While there is something tantalizing in the prospect of seeing Hill face-off againt Thomas on SCOTUS, the fact is that Hill is 64 years old. With the GOP consistently putting far-right judges in their mid-40’s to early 50’s on the Supreme Court to enforce a long-term dominance, we need to start thinking the same way – so I’d rather see a progressive juror in her late 40’s get the SCOTUS nod than Hill.

  39. 39.

    Ladyraxterinok

    September 7, 2020 at 7:57 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    Hope Kamela relatives have nothing to find and be used tonsmear her

    She IS a scary black woman

  40. 40.

    WereBear

    September 7, 2020 at 8:03 am

    @Ladyraxterinok: They will just make stuff up. That kind of worry does not bother me. This is not her first rodeo :)

  41. 41.

    VeniceRiley

    September 7, 2020 at 8:06 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche:  Truth. I’d love to see Prof Hill lead the vetting task force for an expanded SCOTUS.

    Meanwhile, 121 in Woodland Hills, CA yesterday set an all-time record for the county and surrounding area. What do we need to get white guys to believe global warming is happening? A heat dome pemanently over Fox News HQ?

    We will need an expanded SCOTUS because we are literally OUT OF TIME to get this handled.

  42. 42.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 8:08 am

    @randy khan: But the “shy voter” hypothesis shows up a lot without much evidence that it’s ever been real when it comes to candidates.

    That’s because it’s never intended to be real. It’s pre-justification for “winning” an election when the polls are against a Republican – just in case that Republican’s efforts to cheat or rig the election are successful.

    (Yes, I’ve become cynical about Republicans over the past five-and-a-half decades. I can’t imagine why. And yes, it’s always Republicans who speculate that they have shy voters, or a silent majority. Never Democrats.)

  43. 43.

    geg6

    September 7, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @cmorenc:

    Yes.  Our 18 month BSN program only accepts people who have an RN already because it is so rigorous.  Only people with a nursing background can be successful in it.

  44. 44.

    sanjeevs

    September 7, 2020 at 8:10 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche: Bingo

  45. 45.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @geg6: F2F, online or blended?

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 8:11 am

    @VeniceRiley:  Fake news.

  47. 47.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 8:13 am

    @VeniceRiley: Deep state.

  48. 48.

    geg6

    September 7, 2020 at 8:14 am

    @raven:

    All of the above, at least this year.  Usually, mostly f2f.

  49. 49.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 8:16 am

    @geg6: Duh, I should have known that!

  50. 50.

    PsiFighter37

    September 7, 2020 at 8:16 am

    Apparently right-wing Twitter is frothing at some Breitbart report that Jake Tapper convinced some GOP House candidate to not run against Conor Lamb. a) Tapper did a favor if so, because Lamb is a great candidate who would win anyways, and b) it’s delicious to see Tapper get shit on by the right-wing media after enabling those assholes throughout the latter years of the Obama administration.

  51. 51.

    SFAW

    September 7, 2020 at 8:17 am

    @randy khan:

    First, the last word I’d use to describe Trump supporters is shy.

    How about “snowflake Trump voters”: people who support the Traitor-in-Chief, but don’t want to deal with the (anticipated) disapprobation of others (including friends and pollsters), because their fee-fees.

    The “party of personal responsibility” never was that.

  52. 52.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 8:18 am

    Aite, I gotta dead fig tree to take down.

  53. 53.

    SFAW

    September 7, 2020 at 8:20 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche:

    (Yes, I’ve become cynical about Republicans over the past five-and-a-half decades. I can’t imagine why. And yes, it’s always Republicans who speculate that they have shy voters, or a silent majority. Never Democrats.)

    They’re just fighting to unskew the polls. [I don’t remember that idiot’s name — no I don’t need someone to remind me, I can google if desired — but his “logic” was about as geometric as Queeg’s.]

  54. 54.

    Immanentize

    September 7, 2020 at 8:21 am

    @NotMax: How about Democratic Candidate for the House TX -14 :

    Loy Sneary

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 8:22 am

    Morning Joe is rerunning some coverage from Super Tuesday. Amazing what a difference six months makes. Biden went from lagging behind, out of money, etc., to a commanding win and the road to the nomination. Easy to forget how messy the situation was back then. Now the Democrats are in array and ready to kick Trump to the curb.

    Over to a lesser PBS station to take a look at Norm Abram on a This Old House episode from January. Not a big fan of the show since it went over the top about, uh, 20 years ago, but I miss Norm from New Yankee Workshop and thought maybe he had retired. He’s 70, and I hadn’t seen him anywhere in quite a while. He was mostly supervising another guy making a coffee table, but he looked in fine form.

    And so I have ended up with Trisha’s Southern Kitchen. Pretty good show, haven’t watched it in a while. End of story.

  56. 56.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 8:23 am

    @PsiFighter37: … it’s delicious to see Tapper get shit on by the right-wing media after enabling those assholes throughout the latter years of the Obama administration.

    I always thought one of Obama’s funniest WHCA Dinner jokes was: “… and Jake Tapper left journalism to go work at CNN.”

  57. 57.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 8:26 am

    @SFAW: They’re just fighting to unskew the polls.

    “Unskewing” the polls is the same dynamic: GOP pre-justification for successfully “winning” an election Republicans are planning to rig.

  58. 58.

    debbie

    September 7, 2020 at 8:28 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I still watch TOH. I don’t know why, but I love when the homeowners choose finishings, even though I don’t approve of their choices.

  59. 59.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 7, 2020 at 8:29 am

    @WereBear: You are the best!

  60. 60.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 8:37 am

    @VeniceRiley:Meanwhile, 121 in Woodland Hills, CA yesterday set an all-time record for the county and surrounding area.

    CAL FIRE Law Enforcement has determined the El Dorado Fire, burning near Oak Glen in San Bernardino County, was caused by a smoke generating pyrotechnic device, used during a gender reveal party. The fire began at… https://t.co/w62ZRuBdNJ— CAL FIRE BDU (@CALFIREBDU) September 7, 2020

  61. 61.

    narya

    September 7, 2020 at 8:38 am

    Went out for a run to clear my head (weird dreams last night, after watching the first two Bill & Ted flicks back to back)–gonna be nice today. I have to spend some time laying out the tile, but I made pizza dough yesterday specifically so I don’t have to do much today food-prep-wise.

  62. 62.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 8:40 am

    @CarolDuhart2:

    My brother’s still working. He’s an ophthalmologist, still seeing patients (with masks and salad-bar guard or via video) and doing cataract surgeries, although they have tried to cut down on elective surgeries. His husband is a teacher in an Arlington County (VA) elementary school, and they’re virtual until (at least) the end of the year.

    My other brother, the RWNJ in Las Vegas, is retired, and I don’t know what he’s doing. I don’t even know if he is an anti-masker. His recent political posts on Facebook are of the “show us on the doll where Nancy Pelosi touched you” variety. He did go on a two-week motorcycling expedition in Alaska a month or so ago, so he’s not hiding out in the bunker all the time (which, to be clear, was his default before coronavirus).

    I did send him the Brent Terhune video about the sinking of the S.S. MAGAritaville on Lake Travis, and he took that pretty well. He is ex-Navy (destroyers). His reply: “Iron men and plastic boats.”

  63. 63.

    BC in Illinois

    September 7, 2020 at 8:40 am

    On yesterday’s topic:

    POSEIDON FOR BIDEN !

    You need to see the Charles P. Pierce artwork.

  64. 64.

    Sally

    September 7, 2020 at 8:40 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche: Hmmmm …. I want to see a thirty year old flaming liberal appointed to the court. Or better still, six thirty year old flaming liberals.

  65. 65.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 8:42 am

    @raven: Be scareful.

  66. 66.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 7, 2020 at 8:43 am

    In Belarus, pro-Lukashenka thugs broke the door of a cafe displaying the red and white flag supporting freedom. So today, people are standing in line for an hour to get coffee there to show their support.

  67. 67.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @raven:

    I gave that a look and decided it’s too early in the morning. He was on the TAMI Show the other night, playing the piano with short, slicked-back hair.

  68. 68.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 8:47 am

    @Sally:

    Hmmmm …. I want to see a thirty year old flaming liberal appointed to the court. Or better still, six thirty year old flaming liberals.

    Marry me.

  69. 69.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 7, 2020 at 8:51 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I just saw a report that the opposition leader was kidnapped off the street and her team is missing too. Apparently we’ve long past the feigning democracy stage

  70. 70.

    debbie

    September 7, 2020 at 8:52 am

    Jesus, people are idiots.

    THIS JUST IN: Fire officials say “a smoke generating pyrotechnic device” used during a gender reveal party caused San Bernadino County’s #ElDoradoFire in Southern California. https://t.co/uzcZGJplVZ
    — ABC7 News (@abc7newsbayarea) September 7, 2020

  71. 71.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 8:52 am

    @debbie:

    I still give it a look occasionally, but it got too big and elaborate. I liked it in the early days, when they did smaller projects that ordinary mortals could contemplate, if not actually execute. I think they jumped the shark with the dreadful season where they went to London and did a hugely expensive renovation of a flat there. They went over budget, apparently broke numerous building codes and zoning rules and had to slink home with the project unfinished.

  72. 72.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 8:58 am

    @Steeplejack: Say what??? They broke numerous building codes and zoning rules???? Why I never…

  73. 73.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Okay, over to Perry Mason on MeTV: “The Case of the Wayward Wife” (1960). I’ve seen them all multiple times, but Perry restores my faith in the rule of law.

  74. 74.

    debbie

    September 7, 2020 at 8:59 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I remember that! My personal favorite was their renovation of a church somewhere near San Francisco. The homeowners were so proud of their choice of tiling in the bathroom which included  mother of pearl. A couple of weeks later, the host was walking up to the property talking about the project’s progress. He comes upon the homeowner digging frantically through a dumpster. Apparently, one of the workers had tossed the tile out by mistake. It was found, but I can’t imagine them showing a boo-boo like this now.

  75. 75.

    Just One More Canuck

    September 7, 2020 at 9:00 am

    @Steeplejack: I didn’t notice him – I was too busy watching James Brown completely steal the show and watching Mick Jagger wondering what the hell was going on

  76. 76.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:01 am

    @Steeplejack:  Even if I’ve seen an episode a couple of times, I still enjoy watching, if only for the sets, the interiors of offices, homes and apartments.

    Some viewers like to watch the outdoor location shots to identify where they are and compare what they look like nowadays.  I like the indoor environments.

  77. 77.

    Sally

    September 7, 2020 at 9:04 am

    @Lacuna Synechdoche: Lol

  78. 78.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:05 am

    We put these signs up at the Army recruitment office. #fbf pic.twitter.com/IFSJL9tq2P

    — The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) September 4, 2020

  79. 79.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:08 am

    Members of the “Pathetic Cowards for Trump” campaign. Who else should join? pic.twitter.com/5uhSyrnD9w

    — The Good Liars (@TheGoodLiars) September 6, 2020

  80. 80.

    Ian

    September 7, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @randy khan:

    I keep hearing about people who are to ashamed to admit to a random pollster they will vote for Trump.

    Think about that.  One lone Trump voter, intimidated into silence by their evil liberal family?  I bet dollars to cents there are more Dem voters who don’t want to tell their family of bugnuts Trumpniks they are voting for Biden.

  81. 81.

    catclub

    September 7, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @raven: what does BSN stand for? Doesn’t sound like a step up from RN

  82. 82.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:08 am

    @Steeplejack:

    Eh, I don’t think I’m going to watch this one. Korean War vets wrangling over who wrote a memoir of their time as POWs. Meh.

    . . . Ooh, Dining with the Chef on PBS/Create. Weird but good show. Over to that.

  83. 83.

    HalfAssedHomesteader

    September 7, 2020 at 9:09 am

    @NotMax: There’s gotta be some lineage between ol’ Wankard and Moscow Mitch.

  84. 84.

    otmar

    September 7, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Fun: Austrian pensioners receive checks from Trump.

    Google translate should do a good job.

  85. 85.

    satby

    September 7, 2020 at 9:11 am

    Good morning all! Woke up at 3 am, got up for a while and then fell back asleep at 6:30 and got up again at 8:15. Now on my second cup of coffee and still enjoying the Twitter memes from the Lake Travis fiasco. “Klan overboard” on the picture of the boat underwater is my new favorite.

  86. 86.

    zhena gogolia

    September 7, 2020 at 9:12 am

    @Steeplejack:

    We’re reading The Case of the Baited Hook. Quite different from the TV version.

  87. 87.

    catclub

    September 7, 2020 at 9:13 am

    @Steeplejack: They went over budget, apparently broke numerous building codes and zoning rules and had to slink home with the project unfinished.

     

    I think This Old House would be useful if they listed their budgets – at actual cost rather than sponsors donating to the show.  the later stuff looked like a lot of $4M budgets to me.

  88. 88.

    zhena gogolia

    September 7, 2020 at 9:13 am

    @Just One More Canuck:

    I was astounded at how lame the Rolling Stones looked after Brown.

    Beach Boys were terrific, though.

  89. 89.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:15 am

    @satby:

    The tragic events that unfolded on Lake Travis yesterday afternoon appear to have caught Democrats flat-footed as they scramble to recalibrate their message in a race that once promised to be about the nearly 200,000 Americans who have died during the COVID pandemic.

    — New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) September 6, 2020

  90. 90.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:16 am

    Should Joe Biden be eating ice cream just days after one of the worst maritime disasters in Central Texas history?

    — New York Times Pitchbot (@DougJBalloon) September 6, 2020

  91. 91.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 7, 2020 at 9:17 am

     

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:  Those reports are true. I’m trying to highlight the positive, though.

  92. 92.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 9:17 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Now we have a dog.

    I see that you have now accepted the inevitable! :-)

  93. 93.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:18 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    There was a time when Al Jolson was considered the King of show business.  Broke every record, topped every list.

    I wonder if Mick Jagger’s minstrel show will be as off-putting  to future generations as Jolson’s act is today?

  94. 94.

    zhena gogolia

    September 7, 2020 at 9:19 am

    @germy:

    Well, it’s not as bad as all that.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 9:20 am

    @randy khan: If I were planning to vote for Trump, I would be too ashamed to tell anyone.  But then again, if you’re ashamed, why would you still be voting for Trump?

    Maybe because you’re a racist but you don’t want to be seen as one?

  96. 96.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 7, 2020 at 9:21 am

    @WaterGirl: For a little while I fooled myself into thinking I had a say in the matter.

  97. 97.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 9:21 am

    Hey Ahab  Leon Russell, Elton John

  98. 98.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:23 am

    @WaterGirl:  One of the news outlets (it might have been the NYTimes, I don’t remember) tried to call someone a “shy” Trump voter, but then it was revealed he’d self-published a pro-Trump 2020 book.

  99. 99.

    donnah

    September 7, 2020 at 9:24 am

    @Steeplejack:  I watch MeTV, also, but my go-to favorite is the Rifleman. I’ve watched every episode many times and it calms me down.

  100. 100.

    satby

    September 7, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @catclub: Bachelor of Science Nursing

    Which you need if you want to be promotable past floor nurse into any supervisory position.

  101. 101.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:25 am

    @germy:

    Amen to all of that. I’ve gotten my brother semi-hooked, and we always laugh about two things: the money amounts (“A motive for murder? I think . . . $40,000 qualifies, don’t you?”) and the “geography.” Better pack a lunch to go “out to Encino,” and there’s one episode where Paul Drake looks like Malibu could be an overnighter.

    Oh, yeah, real estate. Some guy has “a shack up in the canyon.” Recently seen on Zillow as a $2.5 million reno.

    ETA: I actually got on the Google and checked the dollar amounts one time. A dollar in 1960 is supposedly about $8.75 today, so that $40,000 would be $350,000 now. Definitely more murder-worthy.

  102. 102.

    zhena gogolia

    September 7, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @germy:

    Oh, we love both! There are so many great tsatskes all over the place. I think the early episodes were art-directed by one of the great old Hollywood art directors, whose name escapes me right now.

  103. 103.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:28 am

    @donnah: 
    Johnny Crawford (the rifleman’s son) is in a care facility now. His wife works there. Crawford has Alzheimer’s.

  104. 104.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s a tried-and-true classic on the road to Acceptance!

  105. 105.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 9:29 am

    @germy:

    The Good [email protected]
    We performed an exorcism on Ted Cruz. It did not work.

  106. 106.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 9:30 am

    @germy: hahaha

    Just like the “undecided” voters, or the “independents” that have clearly made up their mind but want their moment in the sun.

    So many media hacks, so little time.

  107. 107.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:31 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Ted’s latest statement: he called for suburban, white college girls who attend protests to be locked up. To teach them a lesson.

  108. 108.

    Jean

    September 7, 2020 at 9:32 am

    Yesterday, I went to Petco in my Virginia area.  They have a REQUIRED mask sign on the door, and I have not seen any unmasked customers until yesterday.  He was behind me, at least 6 feet away, unmasked; his wife, masked, and two children.  I said to the employee at the register, “That man doesn’t have a mask.”  The employee said, ” I didn’t seem him come in.”  He said nothing to the guy.  SO I said, “You should be wearing a mask.”  As I loaded my car, the guy drives by, stops and says out the window:  ” I have a conceal and carry permit, and a mask is not allowed.  You should (something) before you speak.”

    My mind just went black.  I said nothing.  Got home and looked up the law, and Governor Northam’s mask mandate says that “During this emergency, conceal and carry does not prohibit masks”  The law has been waived.  Next, I sent an email to the store, and will follow with a phone call.  I just am not remaining silent on this issue.

    I hate that gun toting guy.  SO smug, so stupid.

  109. 109.

    PST

    September 7, 2020 at 9:32 am

    @catclub: 

    what does BSN stand for? Doesn’t sound like a step up from RN

    Bachelor of Science in Nursing. Traditionally, many RNs had an associates degree, so a BSN marked you as special. It could be helpful for advancement and was often something RNs worked to get while practicing, much like teachers getting an MA. It is more and more common at the entry level.

  110. 110.

    satby

    September 7, 2020 at 9:33 am

    On this Labor Day I’ll be laboring at the eye doctor’s office at least for a couple of hours. But in exciting developments, the manager who drove me nuts has put in her resignation (identifying my return to roll out the new system as a contributing factor). I’m meeting before the office opens with the doctor to plan strategy, because I think she’s leaving the optical store to open her office elsewhere. We need to plan!!

  111. 111.

    Kropacetic

    September 7, 2020 at 9:33 am

    @WaterGirl: Just like the “undecided” voters, or the “independents” that have clearly made up their mind but want their moment in the sun.

    Most independents I know, myself included*, still lean pretty strongly to one of the major parties or the other and aren’t shy to talk about it.

    *In MA, the designation is “unenrolled.”

  112. 112.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:34 am

    @catclub:

    Agreed. I think the first episode I ever saw—jeez, did it have Bob Vila on it?!—was one where they built an enclosed hallway to a one-car garage so they could upgrade that and add it as a bedroom to a small upper Midwest house.

  113. 113.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 9:35 am

    @germy: I’ve got a few lessons I’m willing to instruct him in.

  114. 114.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:36 am

    @satby: because I think she’s leaving the optical store to open her office elsewhere.

    I wonder if she’ll steal all the customers on the way out.

  115. 115.

    Kropacetic

    September 7, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @germy: Should Joe Biden be eating ice cream just days after one of the worst maritime disasters in Central Texas history?

    Should he be eating at all? It just shows a callous indifference to small boaters swept away by big boaters in a brazen act of class warfare.

  116. 116.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:39 am

    @Jean: I just am not remaining silent on this issue.

    Good for you.  I complained to a manager at our local supermarket after I saw three employees with no masks.  One was singing loudly along with the piped-in music.

    Sign on front door:  Mask Required.    I always comply.  Why can’t others?  If people weren’t stupid and crazy, maybe this virus would be a memory by now.

  117. 117.

    satby

    September 7, 2020 at 9:40 am

    @germy: The customers are almost all hers anyway. There are people who still drive in from Chicago and St. Joe MI and in one case Iowa just to see this doctor.

    Edit: malls are dying and have been since before covid, and this optical store has had a noticeable decrease in upkeep and investment over the last year.

  118. 118.

    Lacuna Synechdoche

    September 7, 2020 at 9:40 am

    @Steeplejack: They went over budget, apparently broke numerous building codes and zoning rules and had to slink home with the project unfinished.

    This New Yorker says: Sounds like a Trump building.

  119. 119.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @Steeplejack

    Incredible and amazing. Most people play it using the fingers.

    :)

    @donnah

    The notorious Rifleman cover.

    (‘Twas an open secret that Connors was well endowed.)

    :)

  120. 120.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 7, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @Jean: Good for you. That guy was rattled by your telling him he should be masked and had to have the last word.

  121. 121.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 7, 2020 at 9:43 am

    @germy:

    There was a time when John Banvard was the most famous painter in the world.

  122. 122.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 9:44 am

    @germy: This is also pitch perfect:

    The Good [email protected]
    The first time we saw Ted Cruz.

    I’m not sure if I should thank you or curse you for introducing me to them.

  123. 123.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:44 am

    I don't like puppies. I like old dogs who put a serious paw on your arm as if to say "The jerk I lived with before this buried a treasure map. I still remember where it is. Get your car keys."

    — Elizabeth Hackett (@LizHackett) September 2, 2020

  124. 124.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:45 am

    @donnah:

    LOL. To each her own. I get a raging “gay hustler” vibe from Chuck Connors, so that’s not one of my faves. I’m not a big fan of the Westerns in general.

    Lately, in the grip of coronasomnia, I have been hate-watching what I call “Quinn Martin Theater”: Mannix, Cannon, Barnaby Jones from 2:00 to 5:00 in the morning. Or as much as I can stand. Really dreadful shows, but it’s interesting to see future stars early in their careers and also the stable of “I know that guy but not his name” actors who populated all those shows. Might have gotten cured last week when Barnaby Jones showed me a young but still creepy James Woods kissing Loni Anderson. ?

    I wish they would promote Peter Gunn to a better time slot, and I wish someone would bring back Harry O. Loved that show.

  125. 125.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 9:46 am

    @germy: The Stones were mortified to be following  James Brown. They knew what time is was. Did ya’ll catch Terri Gahr and Zappa?

  126. 126.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Betty Cracker re-tweeted them.  That’s how I found out about them.

    But I take full responsibility for bringing them here.

  127. 127.

    dogwood

    September 7, 2020 at 9:49 am

    For a great tv series I’d recommend Taste the Nation hosted by Padma Lakshmi on Hulu. It’s a beautiful exploration of food, culture and the immigrant experience in America with an episode about Native Americans committed to rediscovering their culinary heritage. I loved it.

  128. 128.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:49 am

    @Jean:

    Condolences on that. It is insane that we have to put up with all this bullshit in addition to the actual coronavirus.

  129. 129.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:51 am

    @raven: Teri Garr goes way back.  I think she can be seen dancing in an old Elvis movie.

  130. 130.

    donnah

    September 7, 2020 at 9:52 am

    @germy: I know, and that’s sad. He was also a singer and songwriter   after his acting career. There were a couple of episodes in the show where he sang and played guitar.

    It’s the one thing about watching classics: most of the actors are long gone.

  131. 131.

    Baud

    September 7, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @dogwood: She’s also fundraising for Biden/Harris.

  132. 132.

    germy

    September 7, 2020 at 9:55 am

    @donnah:  Some amazing character actors show up on The Rifleman.

    Jack Elam was in the episode where he’s a pool hustler, trying to beat Mark Twain (Kevin McCarthy)

    Sammy Davis jr., was on a few times, playing gunslingers.  And Buddy Hackett played a psychotic bad guy.

    And there’s one guy, he was a standup comic who did a great Humphrey Bogart impression, who was always on, playing serious roles as bad guys.

  133. 133.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:56 am

    @Jean, @Steeplejack:

    Also, in the “things I wish I had thought to say” category: “Are your wife and kids packing too? They weren’t wearing masks either.”

  134. 134.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 9:57 am

    @Steeplejack

    “I know that guy but not his name”

    Might want to give That Guy Dick Miller a look-see on Prime. Fun little documentary.

  135. 135.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 9:58 am

    @germy:

    Some degree of BJ separation: I had dinner with Teri Garr and a studio P.R. weasel when I interviewed her during the production of Close Encounters. She was great!

  136. 136.

    OzarkHillbilly

    September 7, 2020 at 10:00 am

    @germy: AHA! Figures she’d be behind it.

  137. 137.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 10:00 am

    @germy:

    LOL, I remember that Buddy Hackett Rifeman episode.

  138. 138.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 10:00 am

    @Steeplejack: She is and the way she has faced her MS is incredible.

  139. 139.

    Chief Oshkosh

    September 7, 2020 at 10:01 am

    @prufrock: 

    It has been my experience that a universal symptom of being a Trump voter is that you let everyone know.

    That has been my experience, too. They love to fly their freak flags in everyone else’s faces. However, they are fundamentally cowards, so I can easily see how they would become “shy” when anyone with a pencil and clipboard starts asking them questions.

    BTW, “shy” apparently meant “cowardly” in 1800s. Since so many of these incels want to return to that era, this should hit a nerve for them, though I doubt they’ll make the connection.

  140. 140.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 10:05 am

    @NotMax:

    I saw that! He hit Mannix (twice) and Barnaby Jones, but not Cannon.

  141. 141.

    Suzanne

    September 7, 2020 at 10:19 am

    @Steeplejack:

    They went over budget, apparently broke numerous building codes and zoning rules

    So like every building project attempted w/o an architect and/or engineer.

  142. 142.

    Immanentize

    September 7, 2020 at 10:27 am

    @Steeplejack:@raven:

    Teri Garr in the Star Trek original series with “Gary Seven” was perfect. It was a pilot, supposed to be a spin off, but it never happened. SAD!

  143. 143.

    Suzanne

    September 7, 2020 at 10:28 am

    @catclub:

    I think This Old House would be useful if they listed their budgets 

    Oh goodness yes. Same with every show on HGTV. In my field, it’s a joke about how everyone watches these shows and somehow comes out dumber about them than before they started. First-time homebuyers don’t understand that plastic laminate is cheaper than quartz or granite, but even some commercial clients don’t understand why we don’t use residential materials in commercial buildings. And no one has a reasonable idea of cost. It leads to many “fierce conversations”.

  144. 144.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 10:28 am

    @Suzanne

    And then there’s the mythology surrounding Coral Castle.

    ;)

  145. 145.

    Immanentize

    September 7, 2020 at 10:33 am

    @NotMax: I love Coral Castle!  Such a weird place.  A true creation of mad devotion to … ?

  146. 146.

    dnfree

    September 7, 2020 at 10:42 am

    @raven: we watched the James Brown biopic with Chadwick Boseman last week. He did a fantastic job. It referenced the Stones following Brown. Apparently this was very early in their career.

  147. 147.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 10:45 am

    Garr in After Hours

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz5Az0IsDl4

  148. 148.

    dnfree

    September 7, 2020 at 10:51 am

    @Suzanne: we redid too many kitchens in the past fifty-some years. In 2005 we did one in a sixties ranch house (in a still inexpensive rural midwestern city). We looked at granite, quartz, etc countertops and were floored (so to speak) by the cost. The salesman asked, “What have you had in your previous homes?”  We said “Formica”. He said, “And how did that work out?”  We said “Fine….”. So we got laminate again and it still looked fine and worked fine when we sold the house last year.

  149. 149.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 10:51 am

    @Kropacetic: If Joe stops eating ice cream, it will be a “thing” that Joe doesn’t eat ice cream, and not only does he think he’s superior to us because he doesn’t eat it, but he will also be planning to take our ice cream away from us.

  150. 150.

    Miss Bianca

    September 7, 2020 at 10:54 am

    @debbie: Are they planning to prosecute the mofos?

  151. 151.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 10:55 am

    @Steeplejack: Peter Gunn is on TV?  Which channel?

  152. 152.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 10:58 am

    I was watching The Saint on youtube last night.   I had never seen it but  I remember my brother excited about it.  So nouveau.  And Secret Agent.  He used to sing  ‘Secret Agent Man, they’ve given you a number, and taken way your name” all the time.  He would act those shows out in the living room, rolling over the couch arms to avoid punches and things.   The Saint is pretty watchable at 2 am.

  153. 153.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 7, 2020 at 10:58 am

    @Kropacetic: The “shy Trumpy” meme is derivative of the Shy Tory factor often cited as a factor in UK Conservative Party scoring better than its polling in elections since the 1990s – with a dollop of Bradley effect (transmogrified from race to gender in 2016) stirred in for seasoning.

    My semi-informed guess is that there was probably some significant peer pressure & “don’t-betray-your-class” admonition for working-class Brits to vote Labour, which might cause them to disguise their actual intentions. I don’t see that happening here & now – there is no corresponding pressure to vote Democratic, and the combination of the suborned MSM and the Shitgibbon in the WH gives Trumpistas ample permission to letting their bigoted-fascistic-Southron-swastika fly in opinion polls. And a nonthreatening Teflon-coated white male at the top of the Democratic ticket pretty much cancels out any Bradley effect. (Though the Thugs have been, as I predicted months ago, doing everything they can to dirty up Kamala as the skeeery black b*tch who’ll take over once Biden resigns or drops dead, which is gonna happen yesterday if not sooner. IMO the campaign will explode that by showing her to advantage in non-threatening contexts.)

  154. 154.

    Miss Bianca

    September 7, 2020 at 11:01 am

    @raven: Teri Garr has MS? : (

  155. 155.

    NotMax

    September 7, 2020 at 11:03 am

    @WaterGirl

    All three seasons on Prime. Also free with ads on the Roku Channel and on Tubi TV.

  156. 156.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 7, 2020 at 11:05 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: I can’t recall if it was Croooze or Quarrely Fiorina, but standing together onstage one of them allegedly muttered to the other, These human masks are really uncomfortable!

  157. 157.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 11:10 am

    @Miss Bianca:

    In October 2002, Garr publicly confirmed that she had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis.[41] After years of uncertainty and secrecy surrounding her diagnosis, Garr explained her reasons for deciding to go public: “I’m telling my story for the first time so I can help people. I can help people know they aren’t alone and tell them there are reasons to be optimistic because, today, treatment options are available.”[41]

    In interviews, she has commented that she first started noticing symptoms while she was in New York filming Tootsie around 1982. After disclosing her condition, she became a National Ambassador for the National Multiple Sclerosis Society and National Chair for the Society’s Women Against MS program (WAMS).[42] In November 2005, Garr was honored as the society’s Ambassador of the Year. The same year, she revealed her treatment regimen for the disease, which included regular steroid injections to help manage symptoms.[30] Closer reported in 2015 that she credited her positive attitude and support of her family as helping her fight the disease.[43]

    In December 2006, Garr suffered a ruptured brain aneurysm.[44] The aneurysm left Garr in a coma for weeks,[35] but after therapy, she regained speech and motor skills, and, in 2008 she appeared on Late Show with David Letterman in order to promote Expired, a 2007 film in which she played a set of twins.[45]

  158. 158.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 7, 2020 at 11:12 am

    @Aleta: “Secret Agent Man” is arguably the best song Johnny Rivers ever did. Am mindestens it beats the living shit out of “A Mountain of Love” (ralph!) which seemed to be the choice of every god-damned moldy-oldies band that ever played for the Friday night swing dances I (sniff) miss so much these days (waaaaaah)….

  159. 159.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 11:16 am

    @WaterGirl:

    MeTV, 4:00 and 4:30 a.m. EDT Monday mornings.

  160. 160.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 11:22 am

    @Aleta:

    I was surprised at how much I like The Saint, especially since I hated Roger Moore as James Bond. Started watching it a few months ago on the Folk channel (even lower-rent than MeTV). It’s on right now, in fact: 11:00 a.m. and noon EDT weekdays. Pretty well written, by the standards of the time, and Moore’s rakish charm is better suited to the small screen.

    I was also watching The Avengers and Secret Agent, but they are apparently out of rotation now. The pre-Emma Peel Avengers episodes with Honor Blackman were a revelation: she was equally kick-ass and had her own style.

  161. 161.

    raven

    September 7, 2020 at 11:24 am

    @Uncle Cosmo: Summer Rain

  162. 162.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @raven:

    Good one. Also “Poor Side of Town.”

  163. 163.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 7, 2020 at 11:32 am

    @Baud: I think it’s less shy and more likely Trump fan bois who don’t normally vote so the polls don’t capture them because they are not likely voters.

  164. 164.

    zhena gogolia

    September 7, 2020 at 11:36 am

    @NotMax:

    You mean the star of Bucket of Blood???

  165. 165.

    debbie

    September 7, 2020 at 11:41 am

    @Miss Bianca:

    One would hope.

    Instead of blowing up things for a gender reveal party, the parents to be should hand out wallets. If there’s a dollar inside, it’s a boy, if there’s 72 cents, it’s a girl
    — Professor Sarah Parcak (@indyfromspace) September 7, 2020

  166. 166.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 11:47 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    You betcha!

  167. 167.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 11:52 am

    @Steeplejack:  Yeah, he is good.  (I couldn’t stand him as Bond.)   Didn’t know he played The Saint.   I like the plots and the acting.  And the scenes.

  168. 168.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 12:11 pm

    @Aleta:

    Donald Sutherland on The Saint right now! Templar under cover in prison to monitor a breakout.

  169. 169.

    prostratedragon

    September 7, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @Steeplejack:
    The dollar amounts do sound laughable now, but they of course would have made sense to the audience then. I use a year’s income at around that time for my rule of thumb. Median family income in 1960 was a bit over $5,000 while a Don Draper type would have made $10 to $15 thousand.

  170. 170.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    @prostratedragon:

    A couple of times a high-powered exec has testified on the stand that he makes $20,000 a year as a big wheel at the Figby Corp. Cha-ching!

  171. 171.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And now Jean Marsh (Upstairs, Downstairs) as the criminal mastermind!

  172. 172.

    Kathleen

    September 7, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    @WaterGirl: Or, like Pelosi, he’s eating expensive effete elite liberal ice cream like Jeni’s (a woman owned business in Ohio).

  173. 173.

    Kathleen

    September 7, 2020 at 12:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: I would tune in just for the opening theme music.

  174. 174.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 12:57 pm

    @Steeplejack:  What season/episode?  Or title would do.  Many (most?) are on youtube by title and number.

  175. 175.

    Yutsano

    September 7, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    @Kathleen: Speaking of which…
    This got randomly stuck in my head around 0200 this morning.

  176. 176.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    @Aleta:

    “Escape Route” (S5.E14, July 1967).

    Sutherland was also in an earlier one, “The Happy Suicide” (S3.E23, March 1965).

  177. 177.

    Aleta

    September 7, 2020 at 1:27 pm

    @Steeplejack: Thx.  I like running across early appearances.

  178. 178.

    Steeplejack

    September 7, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    @Aleta:

    The Saint is interesting because it had two “phases”: an early black-and-white run from October 1962 to August 1965, then a color run from sometime in 1966 to February 1969. (IMDB date order is screwed up.) Dunno what the hiatus was about.

  179. 179.

    Miss Bianca

    September 7, 2020 at 1:58 pm

    @debbie: now *there’s* a gender reveal strategy I could get behind, lol!

  180. 180.

    Citizen Alan

    September 7, 2020 at 2:38 pm

    @Aleta:  I have often thought that the reason Roger Moore was so bad as James bond was because he was playing bond as if he were Simon Templar.

  181. 181.

    Geminid

    September 7, 2020 at 2:56 pm

    @germy: Johnny Crawford also played Henry Fonda and Joanne Woodwards “son” in A Big Hand for the Little Lady. Burgess Meredith, Jason Robards, and Paul Ford play their parts as well. Worth seeing.

  182. 182.

    Bishop Bag

    September 7, 2020 at 3:38 pm

    @raven: I remember an interview with Keith Richards where he said the biggest mistake the Rolling Stones ever made in their career was following James Brown in the TAMI Show!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=AT7_pKMRU8Q

  183. 183.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 4:06 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’m gonna have to record those.  thanks

  184. 184.

    WaterGirl

    September 7, 2020 at 4:08 pm

    @Kathleen: Love the theme song.  I hope the show holds up.  The main actor was one of my favorites for decades because of that show.

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