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For A Good (Virtual) Time…(Shameless Self-Promotion Alert)

by Tom Levenson|  September 14, 20206:52 pm| 101 Comments

This post is in: Books, Open Threads

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Y’all may have heard I have a new book out:  Money for Nothing, on the South Sea Bubble (the first great stock market boom, fraud, and crash), where it came from (the scientific revolution, and spending on wars Britain couldn’t afford), and what it accomplished (the birth of modern financial capitalism, with all its wealth and woe).

For A Good (Virtual) Time...(Shameless Self-Promotion Alert)
Rosa, Salvator; Christ Expelling the Money Changers from the Temple; National Trust, Attingham Park; http://www.artuk.org/artworks/christ-expelling-the-money-changers-from-the-temple-131156

A lot of you have said very kind things about it, and about my writing in general. So many thanks.

This is just to let the Jackaltariat know that I’m going to be doing a couple of book events in the next few days, both of which are, of course, local to the world via our beloved intertubes.

The first is tomorrow (!), September 15 at seven p.m (Eastern Time).

Harvard Books, one of America’s great bookstores, is hosting a conversation between me and David Dobbs–a fine, fine science writer whose work will reward your attention.  It’ll run maybe an hour, with time for audience questions.  Details here.

Then, on Thursday, August September 24, at 7:30, Carl Zimmer and I will find more stuff to talk about around how thinking about change over time (a big theme in the scientific revolution) does really interesting things when you apply the same reasoning to money. The South Sea Bubble is such a rich story precisely because it marries a tale of huge characters, good and bad, or rather varying mixtures of the two, trying to get stupendously rich and/or powerful to the deeper story of how big changes in the way humans make sense of their surroundings play out in everyday life. That was true 300 years ago; it’s true now.  Carl and I will talk about that and more.  Details here.

And because one can’t just toot one’s own horn without offering some kind of reward, here’s a truly bizarre bit of contemporary composition on a theme of current interest.  I’m not altogether sure what I make of it, so I might as well perplex you guys. Enjoy!

Consider this an open thread…

image:n Salvator Rosa, Christ expelling the Money Changers from the Temple, between c. 1660-1669.

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  1. 1.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 14, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    Then, on Thursday, August 24, at 7:30,

    September, one thinks.

  2. 2.

    phdesmond

    September 14, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    that’s delightfully strange, tom. reading the SHOW MORE on youtube was enlightening too.

  3. 3.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    Marking my calendar. Listening to smart people discuss important issues and learning history is good.

    Rather novel, in these times.

  4. 4.

    Van Buren

    September 14, 2020 at 7:07 pm

    Enjoyed Money for Nothing and am trying to get my son, who likes to dabble in stocks, to read. Have not seen him pick up anything other than Sci Fi or Chemistry related books in over a year, though.
    I know that I don’t have to y’all this, but cherish your pets every day. I had to put down my favorite dog today due to liver cancer. 8 days ago we were out for a brisk walk, with no signs of illness. By Saturday, he was practically comatose.

  5. 5.

    raven

    September 14, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @Van Buren: Oh I’m so sorry.  We’re walking that line with both our old dogs.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @Van Buren: Oh, so sorry.

  7. 7.

    Jay

    September 14, 2020 at 7:11 pm

    @Van Buren:

    I’m so sorry.

  8. 8.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 7:15 pm

    [email protected]:

    Then, on Thursday, August 24, at 7:30

    I think you must mean September 24. That’s when I’ve marked my own calendar, anyhow.

  9. 9.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 7:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    As always, I should have looked at comments before weighing in.

    Of course, if I did that, I’d rarely comment at all.

  10. 10.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    @Van Buren:   I am so sorry.  Only comfort is that he had a great little life, up until the 8 days that he did not.

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    This event is co-sponsored by the MIT School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences (MIT SHASS)

    MIT SHASS sounds like a Yiddish expression that is normally defined in euphemism.

  12. 12.

    Van Buren

    September 14, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    Thanks everyone. My two remaining dogs are 14 and 12 and are showing their age. Jackson was 13. Next time I am going to space things out better.

  13. 13.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    Tom:  can we put you on the spot and ask if you will inscribe our copies of your book?  Since you cannot — alas — tour for book signings and lecture appearances.

    Also:  Champ and Tikka photos, s’il vous plait.

  14. 14.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 7:27 pm

    @Van Buren:

    I’m so very sorry. It’s one of the hardest decisions, and it’s almost always the right one. Thank you for giving your guy his best life.

  15. 15.

    phdesmond

    September 14, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: or some variant on Viennese coffee.

  16. 16.

    Aleta

    September 14, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    @Van Buren:  I’m so sorry.

  17. 17.

    RandomMonster

    September 14, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    Any prospect of an Audible version of your book, Tom?

  18. 18.

    Yutsano

    September 14, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    @Van Buren:  Oh damn. That’s terrible. My condolences good sir. Obligatory fuck cancer.

  19. 19.

    Elroy's Lunch

    September 14, 2020 at 7:34 pm

    I’ve purchased and read all of your books Tom. Gonna sign up for this one. Thanks.

  20. 20.

    Kristine

    September 14, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    @Van Buren: Liver cancer sneaks up–been there. Heartfelt sympathies.

  21. 21.

    RandomMonster

    September 14, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    @Van Buren: You were a true friend in his moment of greatest need.

  22. 22.

    Miss Bianca

    September 14, 2020 at 7:37 pm

    Got Money for Nothing on my To-Be-Read list, but first…Newton and the Counterfeiter! : )

  23. 23.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 14, 2020 at 7:40 pm

    @Van Buren:

    Very sorry to hear that. My condolences.

  24. 24.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 7:57 pm

    MADISON – The Wisconsin Supreme Court kept the Green Party’s presidential ticket off the ballot Monday, disappointing party members but ensuring more than a million absentee ballots will be sent to voters Thursday as required by state law.

    The ruling also bolsters hopes for Democrats, who feared presidential nominee Joe Biden could lose a small share of his votes to the liberal third party. Republicans had hoped the Green Party would shave just enough votes from Biden’s total to give President Donald Trump a victory this fall in a state he narrowly won in 2016.

    Justice Brian Hagedorn broke with his fellow conservatives to form a majority with the court’s liberals that kept Green Party nominee Howie Hawkins off the ballot.

    The majority found Hawkins and his running mate, Milwaukee native Angela Walker, waited too long to bring their legal challenge

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/09/14/wisconsin-supreme-court-keeps-green-party-off-ballot-absentee-ballots-mailed-on-time/5796737002/

  25. 25.

    Mary G

    September 14, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    @RandomMonster: There’s an Audible version, I finished listening last week. Highly recommended by moi.

  26. 26.

    oatler.

    September 14, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    Christ: “A plague on thee for wearing Renaissance fashions in 36 AD!” Yeah I know, all the painters did that.

  27. 27.

    Mary G

    September 14, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    @Van Buren: So sorry you had yo say goodbye to Jackson.

  28. 28.

    trollhattan

    September 14, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    But for an apostrophe and slight space shift.

  29. 29.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    @Elroy’s Lunch: Hello!

    First comments always go into moderation, where they have to be manually approved before others can see them.

    Alas, WordPress does not like apostrophes is screen names (nyms) and if you have an apostrophe in your nym every single comment you make goes into moderation, and has to be manually approved.

    So if you do stick with an apostrophe, that’s what’s in store for you.  Some people give up the apostrophe and use an * in its place.  It’s not perfect, but it works.  Others skip the apostrophe.  Or change the name completely, I guess.

  30. 30.

    Tom Levenson

    September 14, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @Elizabelle: of course!

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @germy: Yippee!!!

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    No one is talking about Lt. Colonel Vindman on Lester Holt?

  33. 33.

    Tom Levenson

    September 14, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    @RandomMonster: it exists!

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B085ZRNMLW/ref=tmm_aud_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1600128760&sr=8-1

  34. 34.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 14, 2020 at 8:13 pm

    @WaterGirl: We’re too busy with respites for news.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:14 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Well that’s unfortunate.

  36. 36.

    sdhays

    September 14, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    @germy: Wow. That Hagethorn guy probably isn’t very popular at the country club nowadays.

  37. 37.

    Kim Walker

    September 14, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    I’ve been reading your latest every night as bedtime reading and it has been keeping me up later than usual. In addition, I have the latest “Killing Eve” book by Luke Demming, but I’m enjoying yours so much, that Villanelle will have to wait. I will let my husband know about your book chats – he is a big fan.

  38. 38.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:22 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Vindman seemed a lot tamer on TV than in his print interview, where he called Trump a “free chicken”

  39. 39.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    @sdhays:  I really thought the greens were going to mess things up in that state.

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    Roger Moore

    September 14, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @germy:

    I hope a few people on the left get their heads out of their asses and recognize the Green Party is nothing but a Republican ratfucking operation.  Who am I kidding?  The kind of people who continue to vote Green want the Republicans to win so the Democrats are destroyed and everyone is forced to vote Green instead.

  41. 41.

    sanjeevs

    September 14, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    @Tom Levenson: Thanks for this.

    2020 has been a vintage year for fraud with Wirecard’s bankruptcy and now Nikola admitting they faked their ‘hydrogen truck’ video by simply rolling it down a hill and tilting the camera.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    @germy: Print interview??  ears perking up.  where does one find that?

  43. 43.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:26 pm

    @sdhays:

    3 of the 4 conservatives would have thrown the election into chaos by adding the Greens to the ballot even though it’s effectively too late to do so (federal law requires they go out in 5 days, 100,000s have already been mailed!) as election clerks had widely attested to https://t.co/H2B4IC2JAP

    — Stephen Wolf (@PoliticsWolf) September 14, 2020

  44. 44.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:27 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Here tis

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/alexander-vindman-trump-putin-useful-idiot/616341/

    But do you think Russia is blackmailing Trump? “They may or may not have dirt on him, but they don’t have to use it,” he says. “They have more effective and less risky ways to employ him. He has aspirations to be the kind of leader that Putin is, and so he admires him. He likes authoritarian strongmen who act with impunity, without checks and balances. So he’ll try to please Putin.”

    Vindman continues, “In the Army we call this ‘free chicken,’ something you don’t have to work for—it just comes to you. This is what the Russians have in Trump: free chicken.”

  45. 45.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    @Tom Levenson:   Yea!  I think it would be really fun to trade our review/perspective of the book (such as it is!), in a nice note, with the book for signing.

    I miss getting to interact with authors in person, but have been enjoying so many of the virtual events they’re now doing.

    Will you do a book chat with Book Passages??

  46. 46.

    SC54HI

    September 14, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    Congratulations on the book, Tom. I look forward to reading it and will recommend it for purchase by my local library system

    ETA: Too late, in a good way — it’s in our library system and I’m now #3 on the list.

  47. 47.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    @germy:   Free chicken.

    It’s. Just.  Such a perfect descriptive.

    Except Trump don’t do nothing for free.  Except for Putin Daddy.

  48. 48.

    Roger Moore

    September 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    @germy:

    Of course the “conservatives” would have thrown the election into chaos.  They don’t like elections, especially ones where their side might lose, so throwing a monkey wrench into them is exactly what they want to do.

  49. 49.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    @sanjeevs:

    2020 will go down in history as the year of fraud.

    Brock Pierce is running for president as an independent:

    Our team served @brockpierce for securities fraud at his rally in NYC.

    Pro tip- when you’re trying to avoid getting served for a multi B fraud case, maybe lay off outlandish presidential campaigns pic.twitter.com/ZZEsilzOzJ

    — James Koutoulas (@jameskoutoulas) September 14, 2020

  50. 50.

    Gary K

    September 14, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    Since your title starts up an earworm, Tom, I have to ask: are your chicks for free?

    (Just coincidentally it’s nearly the same as Vindman’s phrase!)

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    @germy: Thanks!  That was a good read.

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @germy:

    Agreed. I found the Lester Holt interview less than compelling.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @Elizabelle: Quid pro quo!!!

  54. 54.

    Ken

    September 14, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    @sanjeevs: Nikola admitting they faked their ‘hydrogen truck’ video by simply rolling it down a hill

    Amazing!  They have TAPPED the power of gravity, one of the four FUNDAMENTAL forces of the universe and the ONLY one mediated by a spin-2 boson.

    UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED, ESPECIALLY to COMPUTER BULLETIN BOARDS.

  55. 55.

    germy

    September 14, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    @WaterGirl:  @SiubhanDuinne:

    I wonder if having bright lights and cameras on him made Vindman more mild mannered during his TV interview.

    In print, he was definitely more outspoken and free with his descriptions of Trump.

  56. 56.

    Elroys Lunch

    September 14, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Ah, makes sense. I’m a power lurker since John was a conservative. I can adjust. Thanks!

  57. 57.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    @germy:

    I wonder if having bright lights and cameras on him made Vindman more mild mannered during his TV interview.

    Could be. Some people are a little bit mic shy and/or camera shy, and maybe he’s among them.

  58. 58.

    Zelma

    September 14, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Van Buren:

    I’m so sorry!

    I’m facing that with my beloved cat.  It’s so hard to know when to let them go.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @Elroys Lunch: Power lurker, that’s funny!

  60. 60.

    Benw

    September 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    OT: Chance the Rapper is starting a live cultural event on youtube right now

    ETA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLD4Bxmr8Gs

  61. 61.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 14, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    It was indeed a good read. My respect for Jeffrey Goldberg as a writer and interviewer just keeps going up and up.

    Heh. And right on cue, Rachel starts her program talking about Goldberg’s interview with Vindman. 

  62. 62.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Van Buren: It was like that with my Bailey.

    I left for an 8:30 am meeting, and all was good.  I returned home from the meeting at 10:00 or 10:30, and it was clear that something was terribly wrong.

    It’s so fast, it’s heart to wrap your head around it.  And your heart.

    But you know what you have to do, and you do it for them.  I’m so sorry.

  63. 63.

    John S.

    September 14, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Elroys Lunch: Greetings fellow Balloon Juice old timer!

    I’m definitely not a lurker, though I comment far less often than I used to. I too remember those days when John was a conservative, and doing pitched battle here with the likes of Darrell.

    My how the world has changed.

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I loved the start of the article with the door at the Watergate Hotel.  So apt and so nicely done, particularly because of Vindman’s answer to the question.

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack

    September 14, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @germy:

    Lester Holt is a mediocre interviewer. Also: spread collar.

  66. 66.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    It’s sad that such a wonderful public servant/military member can get sandbagged by someone who does not serve on ANY outside corporate boards because they recognize the value of his counsel.  (Zero. Zip.  Nada.)

    And do not return to being nonpolitical, Lt Col V.  You cannot do that.  A synonym is ignorant, or naive.

  67. 67.

    Benw

    September 14, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Van Buren: ooof, that sucks. condolences

  68. 68.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @Elizabelle:  I don’t have the faintest idea what you mean by that. I am surely missing some connection, but I just have no idea.

    …can get sandbagged by someone who does not serve on ANY outside corporate boards because they recognize the value of his counsel.  (Zero. Zip.  Nada.)

  69. 69.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: Is that more of a crime than birkenstocks used to be?

  70. 70.

    Another Scott

    September 14, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Steeplejack:  Holt was pretty good here – https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/lester-holt-cold-open/3517004

    ;-)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  71. 71.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    @WaterGirl:   Trump.

    Donald Fucking Trump.

    And his minions drove Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman out of his military career.  And a lot of of our wonderful public servants.  Sally Yates.  Marie Yovanovitch.  A long list of excellent government employees and executives.

    Never forget that DF Trump did not have to extricate himself from ONE corporate board, to take his stolen office. (To my knowledge.  Plz correct me if I am mistaken.)   He was not serving on any board.  Because they knew he is hot air and ignorance.

    And he appoints crazy asses like Michael Caputo.  Etc.

  72. 72.

    Anonymous37

    September 14, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Y’all may have heard I have a new book out

    #Humblebrag

  73. 73.

    Mary G

    September 14, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    A win in court:

    BREAKING: Colorado Federal Court REJECTS Dejoy and @USPS motion to reconsider order blocking misleading mailers to Colorado voters."The imminent distribution of false and misleading voting information to over half a million Colorado households constitutes irreparably harm." pic.twitter.com/uuBK8B6Ibw— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) September 15, 2020

  74. 74.

    satby

    September 14, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Van Buren: Oh man! So sorry.

  75. 75.

    Miss Bianca

    September 14, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Mary G: That’s my CO SOS, Jena Grenwald, ON IT! Woot!

  76. 76.

    Miss Bianca

    September 14, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: It does happen so fast sometimes… : (

     

    @Van Buren: So sorry. My condolences.

  77. 77.

    Jay

    September 14, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    1900-1970s: Federally-funded sterilization programs in over 30 states1920-1980s: ‘Mississippi Appendectomy’2006-2010: 150 women sterilized in California prisons2020: Mass hysterectomies at ICE detention centers…. https://t.co/0rp1UylgMm— uché blackstock, md (@uche_blackstock) September 14, 2020

  78. 78.

    EthylEster

    September 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    I just finished reading “Why Trust Science?” by Naomi Oreskes.

    It is excellent. Just the right  balance of philosophy of science, history of science, and sharp observation of both. Of course, she destroys the opposition (climate change deniers, tobacco industry hacks, creationist/anti-evolutionists) but with easy-to-follow reasoning, data, and great writing. I think she has a position at Harvard.

  79. 79.

    Miss Bianca

    September 14, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Awk, I meant Jena Griswold!! >:<

  80. 80.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 14, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: Hold on! Don’t you be disrespecting Birkenstocks.

  81. 81.

    bjacques

    September 14, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    I picked up Money For Nothing at Waterstone’s in Amsterdam a few weeks back and I’m really enjoying it. At first I lamented that the Dutch by bubble and its hilariously scabrous cartoons don’t get a mention, but I can understand now there wouldn’t be any room.

  82. 82.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    @Elizabelle: It was the corporate board reference I didn’t understand.  I think most people on corporate boards are full of shit and are often there for prestige, not because of actual knowledge and experience.  So i’m still a bit confused about what corporate boards have to do with anything, but that’s okay, I don’t need to understand. :-)

  83. 83.

    Elizabelle

    September 14, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    The FTF NY Times rewrote its South Dakota AG hits deer — surprise! — story, to bring it into the same orbit as most other reporting.  You will recall that the NYTimes charmingly called it a “car crash” and only mentioned the word “deer” once. As the literal very last word.

    They have read up over there, researching lesser papers and outlets.  Story was written by a brand new reporter but, Jeebs, she did a horrible job initially.  Maybe she literally wrote her article from the AG’s or CovidGovernor Noem’s press release.  (I’m not kidding.  The story was so insufficient, for appearing hours after the initial reporting, that I wonder how the Times managed to hash it up so badly.)

    “Deer” now appears 8 times in their story, which is now headlined: South Dakota Investigates Fatal Crash Involving Attorney General

    The attorney general, Jason Ravnsborg, called 911 to say he thought he had hit a deer late Saturday. The next morning, the body of Joe Boever, 55, was found nearby, the authorities said.

    That mere blurb is more informative than the entire earlier Times story.

    It does have some new details:

    On the way to pick up his cousin on Sunday morning, Victor Nemec passed blood on the highway, a police investigation and Mr. Boever’s pickup, which was still in position about half a mile down the road. When there was no answer at Mr. Boever’s home, they feared the worst, Nick Nemec said.

    Mr. Boever worked stints as a nurse’s aide and at a grocery store, his cousin said, but was most recently employed helping Victor Nemec haul hay on his cattle farm.

    I put the whole of the Times’ original article in Betty’s “stupidest president” this afternoon. It was … an original take on a story that other newspapers got right hours earlier.

  84. 84.

    RandomMonster

    September 14, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Tom Levenson: OMG!!!

  85. 85.

    WaterGirl

    September 14, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: I would never do that!

    I was just trying to understand where spread collars stand on the hate continuum.

  86. 86.

    J R in WV

    September 14, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    Open  Thread?  OK:

    I have cousins all over the country, from the east coast to HI, and as far south as Brazil.

    After a long phone call with cousin in AZ, I learn that her offspring (first cousins once removed, I think) in WA coast report adopting a new young lady, 18 years old, fleeing her family.

    Her family wanted total control of the young lady, as is culturally common in their home country. She, however, decided she was an American, and as a newly hatched adult, didn’t need to be a slave to old country custom.

    She is also quite fond of young man (first cousin twice removed? I dunno, too complicated for me) of cousin’s family, by a coincidence… I’m quite sure that had nothing to do with the whole sequence of events.

    Anyway, her sisters came to “rescue” her from the despicable American family willing to help her escape her traditional family, much shouting on the front porch. Next day cousin took her to the police station, where the liberal community cops expressed admiration for young woman’s strength in leaving her family to remain free and independent in America. All is well that ends well, we all hope!

    High School graduate, with a job. Proud of cousins !!!  Cousin was a Hot Shot fire fighter with Forest Service for quite some time, brave and strong! Do not mess with fire fighters!! I expect she is well acquainted with police folks, is still fire fighter with local VFD!

  87. 87.

    Hob

    September 14, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    The book looks great and I’ll be watching the Harvard Books event tomorrow.

  88. 88.

    prostratedragon

    September 14, 2020 at 10:21 pm

    Money for Nothing sounds like something I’ll enjoy –I like bubble tales. Will check it out soon.

    “Protect yourself from infection” is downright haunting, especially with the names interlaced. Simple chant helps focus on the meaning of the words.

  89. 89.

    Jay

    September 14, 2020 at 10:28 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    it’s pretty simple.

    Corporate Boards are supposed to provide guidance and advise to the CEO/CFO based on their “business experience”.

    In reality, it’s mostly a way of giving Rich White Businessmen/ Investors $50k to $70m plus stock options for a 1 hour a week work day fellating every word and plan of the CEO/CFO.

    Cheetolinni never got in on the grift, because nobody wanted him, ever, in on the grift.

  90. 90.

    Jay

    September 14, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    Yeah, firefighters are the ultimate chads pic.twitter.com/0kBzNuer9E— Scotty Blue (@blue_scotty) September 14, 2020

  91. 91.

    Jay

    September 14, 2020 at 10:47 pm

    Today is the beginning of week 5 of my having #COVID19. This time last week, I was nearly hospitalized. I am now on the up and up now, but seriously, be careful out there. This thing is no joke.— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) September 13, 2020

  92. 92.

    CaseyL

    September 14, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    @Van Buren: Oh, jeez, I am so sorry.

    Tom – thanks for the information!  Not sure I’ll be able to make the event tomorrow, as I’ll be in a webinar all day, but the 24th should be do-able!  Can’t wait to read Money for Nothing – but wait is exactly what I. have to do: I’m on a waiting list at the library.

  93. 93.

    eddie blake

    September 14, 2020 at 11:50 pm

    haven’t gotten the book yet. definitely on the list, though. i love stuff like that, the stories about why things work the way they do.

  94. 94.

    Steeplejack

    September 15, 2020 at 12:03 am

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s not a fashion faux pas. It’s a marker of sketchy character. Jared Kushner, Stephen Miller, etc.

  95. 95.

    eddie blake

    September 15, 2020 at 12:09 am

    @Steeplejack:

    agreed. if the job demands it, put on a goddamn tie

    (i mean, mine doesn’t, but that’s not the point.)

  96. 96.

    The Lodger

    September 15, 2020 at 12:21 am

    @Mary G: Aaaaaand… we got our mailer today in Oregon, where all registered voters get their ballots mailed to them automatically. Your tax dollars at large.

  97. 97.

    Steeplejack

    September 15, 2020 at 12:26 am

    @eddie blake:

    A spread collar goes with a tie. Jared Kushner.

  98. 98.

    eddie blake

    September 15, 2020 at 12:40 am

    @Steeplejack:

    ah. for some reason i saw what you wrote, but my brain read “open collar”

  99. 99.

    Tom Levenson

    September 15, 2020 at 12:41 am

    @Kim Walker: Thank you!

  100. 100.

    Tom Levenson

    September 15, 2020 at 12:42 am

    @Hob: Thanks!

  101. 101.

    Tom Levenson

    September 15, 2020 at 12:43 am

    @bjacques: glad it’s giving you pleas.

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