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You are here: Home / Past Elections / 2020 Elections / The First 2020 Presidential Debate Live Feed and Open Thread

The First 2020 Presidential Debate Live Feed and Open Thread

by Adam L Silverman|  September 29, 20208:48 pm| 424 Comments

This post is in: 2020 Elections, America, Domestic Politics, Open Threads, Politics

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Here’s a live feed from PBS:

C-SPAN is not providing an embed link.

Here’s USA Today’s debate bingo card:

The First 2020 Presidential Debate Live Feed and Open Thread

And finally, this pretty much sums up my view of tonight’s debate.

I’d rather catheterize myself with a rusty lemon zester in the back seat of a Kia driven by Prince Phillip https://t.co/fsZVYWFOob

— FraudulentChinaBallotBarnHat (@Popehat) September 29, 2020

Open thread!

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424Comments

  1. 1.

    Scuffletuffle

    September 29, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    Uh oh, am already halfway through the first bottle of wine…

  2. 2.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    CNN is going on endlessly regarding the “undecided voter”.

    If you’re undecided, you’ve either got mush for brains or are lying to yourself about your Trump support.

  3. 3.

    sdhays

    September 29, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    I’d rather catheterize myself with a rusty lemon zester in the back seat of a Kia driven by Prince Phillip

    I can’t stand it when you beat around the bush. Tell us your real feelings!

  4. 4.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 29, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    Live blog at Wonkette

  5. 5.

    HinTN

    September 29, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    Popehat is da man!

  6. 6.

    Luciamia

    September 29, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @Scuffletuffle: Just poured my first glass.

  7. 7.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Maybe they mean undecided whether safe for life and limb to stay in the country? Though, until things get better, that is a hypothetical at this point, since we are banned by most of the world as infectious threats.

  8. 8.

    Luciamia

    September 29, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    Think I will be back and forth on here an d the Raccoon Whisperer on YouTube.

  9. 9.

    Mary G

    September 29, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    Not proud of it, but I want to watch the way people slow down and stare at a car wreck to see if there’s blood.

  10. 10.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 29, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    That’s where I’m headed

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 29, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:
    You should have been watching MSNBC. Hillary was on, and she was good.

    And of course there’s the Terrific Trio of Rachel, Nicolle, and Joy. I said it during the conventions, and I’ll say it again: I wish MSNBC’d give these ladies their own weekly show. They’re so great together.

  12. 12.

    Zzyzx

    September 29, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    I’m watching but I’m terrified.

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: 

    If you’re undecided, you’ve either got mush for brains or are lying to yourself about your Trump support.

    “Both” is always a go-to option.

  14. 14.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: It was nice.

    They had Kornacki on after.  It’s so weird that Joe is doing worse than Hillary with black and Latino voters.  But the heartland whites love him.

  15. 15.

    Mike in NC

    September 29, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    Gonna take a hard pass on looking at Fat Bastard’s rotten, bloated pumpkin-colored face and grating monotone voice.

  16. 16.

    PsiFighter37

    September 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Wife made me put on the debate. I want to punch Van Jones so hard. What a fucking sellout and moron.

    David Axelrod’s haircut looks as bad as Trump’s.

  17. 17.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    Tara Reade not there, according to MSNBC.

  18. 18.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:01 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Both are awful.

  19. 19.

    cain

    September 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    No Benghazi? We are all drinking if it happens!

  20. 20.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    I hate the national broadcast media.

    They all need the Boston Globe treatment from Handmaid’s Tale.

  21. 21.

    Ohio Mom

    September 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    I am having flashbacks to the debates of four years ago. I keep seeing Trump follow and stalk Hillary. I keep hearing Hillary saying ALL the parts out loud — “He pays no taxes,” He’s Putin’s puppet” are the two that come to mind right now.

    I thought those debates were fine performance art — how could that man, making such a fool of himself, win? Now I know he can. I won’t be mordantly amused this time, I’ll be a ball of anxiety.

  22. 22.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @Scuffletuffle: It’s a marathon, not a sprint!

  23. 23.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 29, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    Doing more important stuff. Watching Canadians bake bread.

    When we ran out of British Baking Shows, I went online looking to see what other countries got the baking show franchise, and found this guy who had archived every single English-language GBBO spinoff in the world.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    Why haven’t they started yet?

  25. 25.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    I have the Post’s stream open on another tab, and one of the reporters pointed out that this might be the first time that the Trump family in the audience are wearing masks (because they’re required to be allowed into the hall).

  26. 26.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    I had to get promise the Contessa not to load and hold my pistol during this.

    We’d need a new TV.

  27. 27.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @Baud: Trying to tune the AM radio that feeds Biden’s earpiece.

  28. 28.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 29, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @Baud: Nope, but all the Trumps.  Gawd, they all look like plastic.

  29. 29.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    @dmsilev: I’m worried that putting the Trumps in masks might make them seem more human.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    This debate is sponsored by the letters A and A and the number 7.

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    @Morzer: Only if the masks are made of iron and padlocked into place.

  32. 32.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: They’re waiting for Baud 2032!!, and you’re the one who’s late.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    oh my god, did he just say that there are going to be 2,020 presidential debates ?!?!?!!!

  34. 34.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: The decrease in support for the Dem ticket among Blacks and Latinos was surprising.

  35. 35.

    mali muso

    September 29, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    I can’t stand to hear or see that evil fascist for a single second, so will be consuming the debate second-hand via Balloon Juice.  Prepping my sourdough starter for a bake tomorrow.

  36. 36.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Scuffletuffle: I’m ahead of you. 3/4. Red from Aldi’s. It could get ugly.

  37. 37.

    TS (the original)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    If you are taking one for the team, please comment – I just can’t listen to trump

  38. 38.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    Good start by Biden. He said “how are you, man?” Not “how are you, Mr. President?” Well done!

  39. 39.

    cain

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Baud: Maybe crime bill had an effect?

  40. 40.

    Emma from FL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    According to Wonkette, Trump’s campaign sent out an email supposedly from him saying he had finished debating and he won! Does anyone know if there are Democratic agents planted in the operation?

  41. 41.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    I haven’t followed the pre-debate surrogate BS much, but from what I’m reading, Trump has set the bar so if Biden remembers his name, the date and why everyone is gathered there in the hall, and I suppose what the presidency is, then Biden wins, big time: he wins bigly.

  42. 42.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: You know what you did.

  43. 43.

    opiejeanne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I love Nicole Wallace. That’s something I never thought I’d say, but she has spit the hook, horked up the KoolAid, and I don’t think she’s ever going back.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    We’re doing it because we can.

  45. 45.

    Emma from FL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Where are we getting that data from?

  46. 46.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    Word salad, word salad, top top, word salad, word salad…

  47. 47.

    sdhays

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @Baud: I thought 7 was a fake number.

  48. 48.

    danielx

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    Black Bush is calling my name…may be sleeping in tomorrow.

  49. 49.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    Tyler Pager
    @tylerpager
    An observation from inside the debate hall: Everyone in Biden’s side of the hall is wearing a mask. More than half on Trump’s side, including his four children, are not wearing masks. According to the Cleveland Clinic, it’s a requirement that all guests wear masks.

    Because they’re special.

  50. 50.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    What kind of ninnyhammmer put the debate on CSPAN2?

  51. 51.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    He’s rambling already.

  52. 52.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @Emma from FL:

    Hm. This went out hours before the debate even happened.

    Who’s the one lying, @realDonaldTrump?

    (And no, this is not actually addressed to me, just chance.) pic.twitter.com/GlfvCJrwwT

    — David J. Loehr (@dloehr) September 29, 2020

  53. 53.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Biden is going to give Trump the 2012 Ryan treatment? That would be interesting.

  54. 54.

    Steppy

    September 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    Fat Bastard’s pupils are HUGE.

  55. 55.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    Straight to health care. Good.

  56. 56.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 29, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @Emma from FL: Kornacki reporting on polls.

  57. 57.

    namekarB

    September 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Love this quip from over at LGM

     Speaking of principles, political debates in general and presidential debates in particular are incredibly stupid, for reasons that are too obvious to elaborate. Anybody who is watching this thing to help them decide who to vote for should not vote, or, ideally, reproduce.

    I could not agree less (more?). Presidential Debates have never been “debates.” They serve no real purpose at generating support. If such debate has any purpose it is to woo the the press, which is owned in whole by  our corporate overlords.

  58. 58.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: They’re covering the House vote on the sense of the House resolution on a peaceful transfer of power.

  59. 59.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Trump: “We nominate a justice because we can”. Nothing at all about what issues she’d rule on.

    Biden: “Voters should decide. The nominee will destroy Obamacare”.

  60. 60.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    Joe making a quick transition to the ACA.

  61. 61.

    opiejeanne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:10 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Thank God for Zoloft. I feel pretty calm right now, maybe not so much later, but I might just turn off the debate and watch something else, because I’m so calm.

  62. 62.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @jl: We’ll see. He did just refer to him as Mr. President.

  63. 63.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    @sdhays: All the odd numbers are fake news Deep State numbers. Funded by Soros. Many people have told me this, but privately because they would be persecuted if it got out they told me.

  64. 64.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:11 pm

    I guess Obama was elected for three years, hmmm?

    It’s close enough to 3/5.

  65. 65.

    Zzyzx

    September 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    I made it through .75 questions before deciding that I couldn’t do it.

  66. 66.

    Percysowner

    September 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    I tried. I turned it on. I listened to Chris Wallace, then I saw Trump’s face and bailed. I’m taping it in case anything good happens, but otherwise I’ll just follow some liveblogs.

  67. 67.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    Socialist medicine!!!!  Dominated by Harris!

    The fuck????

  68. 68.

    RaflW

    September 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    Biden isn’t doing well with Trump interrupting him. And Wallace is doing worse.

  69. 69.

    opiejeanne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Quinerly: If I start drinking I might not be able to stop.

  70. 70.

    danielx

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Giant clusterfuck already.

  71. 71.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Chris Wallace, doormat.

  72. 72.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    @Kay: Time for the debate hosts to kick those Trumpers out who won’t follow the rules.

  73. 73.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    “Donald.”

  74. 74.

    Lapassionara

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    @Ohio Mom: Me too. PTSD, for sure.

    thanks to those who watch and comment so I don’t have to.

  75. 75.

    RaflW

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Fucking interrupter in Chief. Asshole.

     

    Walace has no control.

  76. 76.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Already calling him Donald.

  77. 77.

    oatler.

    September 29, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    Biden’s been rolling over like a … geezer.

  78. 78.

    hueyplong

    September 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Really pounding a square peg into a round hole to hit racism in that response.

  79. 79.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @opiejeanne: You’ll stop when you pass out!

  80. 80.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Percysowner: The two liveblogs I have up, Wonkette and The Grauniad, are updating at a snail’s pace, at least compared to this place.

  81. 81.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @oatler.: OFFS!

  82. 82.

    jl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @Percysowner: Me too. I’m not even up for live reading live blogs. The whole thing is just too creepy. I’ll read up on the events later. Good luck everyone.

    Maybe BJ should put up a post on how many commenters who tried to get through it live need welfare checks? I’ll look in later and will help on that if I can. God knows what shape I’ll be in after just reading the after reports.

  83. 83.

    Uninvited Guest

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @oatler.: Hi new poster! What a funny time to join us.

  84. 84.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    New rule: Debate moderator gets a taser.

  85. 85.

    Professor Bigfoot

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    I wanted him to turn to Trump and say, “will you shut the fuck up and let me finish?”

  86. 86.

    Emerald

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    I don’t know if this constant attack is working for him. He’s being as obnoxious as usual.

  87. 87.

    Nutmeg again (formerly MoxieM)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    I wish they would cut the orange Buffoon’s mic when he talks out of turn. Nothing else will mute him.

  88. 88.

    Emma from FL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    We’re only a few minutes into the debates and we’re already slagging Joe. Wooooonderful.

  89. 89.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @Baud:

    It’s so weird that Joe is doing worse than Hillary with black and Latino voters.  But the heartland whites love him.

    Wait, what?

  90. 90.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Cut Trump’s mike.

    Jesus.

  91. 91.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @opiejeanne: last glass of first bottle in the glass. This is a cluster fuck. Wallace has lost control.

  92. 92.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: And he’s laughing at him. Which is also a good visual.

  93. 93.

    West of the Cascades

    September 29, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    Fuck Trump and any moderator who lets him talk over Biden’s answers.

  94. 94.

    Aleta

    September 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    scoff

  95. 95.

    Gin & Tonic

    September 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @Uninvited Guest: That’s a nym that’s been around a while, in contrast with yours.

  96. 96.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    This is a shit show, as expected.

  97. 97.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Damn, I didn’t think Biden would do that

  98. 98.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    I hope someone tells Joe to stop chortling every 5 seconds.

  99. 99.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @Percysowner: I am hanging for awhile. But pretty much unwatchable.

  100. 100.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    Here’s the deal X2. Drink twice!

  101. 101.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @RaflW: This was actually the thing I was most worried about. Trump lies, breaks rules, and yells over people. And Biden will have a hard time with it if he can’t get Wallace to enforce the rules.

    Honestly, it might be better if Biden just said. “I’ve been interrupted by this idiot repeatedly in violation of the rules he agreed to. Because like everything he does, Trump just lies constantly about what he’ll do.  And if Fox won’t moderate their own debate and follow their own rules, I don’t see why I’m even here. Fox, keep your candidate under control or I’m out.

    You can have five minutes to figure out a solution.”

  102. 102.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    Was Pocahontas on the Bingo card?

  103. 103.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    He just called him a clown. Also good.

  104. 104.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Wallace: “Can you let him finish?”

    Biden: “He doesn’t know how to do that.”

  105. 105.

    Luciamia

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Just like Hillary should have told Trump to back off, why can’t Biden tel Trump to belt it?

  106. 106.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    “this clown”

  107. 107.

    JPL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    omg   Chris Wallace has no control.

  108. 108.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Biden:  “Everybody knows he’s a liar.”

    Trump is so juvenile.

  109. 109.

    Mag

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Unwatchable. I’m out.

  110. 110.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Clown Anti Defamation League holding on line three.

  111. 111.

    cain

    September 29, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    Trump is being a clever asshole trying to divide the coalition by saying “you lost the left”.

  112. 112.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    @JPL: Yeah, Wallace has no control and just letting fuckface blabber on.

  113. 113.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Maybe that’s just the right response. “This asshole can’t even keep his trap shut for 2 minutes because he insists on being the center of attention at all times. Explains a lot, doesn’t it?” And then point a big shit-eating grin at Trump.

  114. 114.

    TaMara (HFG)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Wallace has lost complete control. This is unwatchable unless something changes.

  115. 115.

    cain

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    This debate sucks. Trump won’t let anybody talk.

  116. 116.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Clown.

  117. 117.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    Trump’s just vomiting out lies and nonsense and appears to be debating Wallace as to who is moderating this debate-like product.

  118. 118.

    Mary G

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    OK. I’m out. Joe’s not going to get to finish a sentence.

  119. 119.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    JFC. We’re 15 minutes in and it’s already a goat rodeo train wreck clusterfuck. I’m going to have no liver by the time this is over.

  120. 120.

    Suzanne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    This is obnoxious.

  121. 121.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Pledge!

  122. 122.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    This could be helpful, with Trump calling Obamacare a disaster over and over.

    CUT TRUMP’S MIKE.

  123. 123.

    L85NJGT

    September 29, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    Trump’s breaking out in flop sweat.

  124. 124.

    Benw

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    I just completed my training and took my NYS poll worker oath!! Ian FIRED UP

  125. 125.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    Will you shut up man?

  126. 126.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    Will you shut up, man?

  127. 127.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    I will say that Trump isn’t going to win anyone over with this projectile-vomiting of abusive nonsense.

  128. 128.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    “Will you shut up, man”

  129. 129.

    khead

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    “Will you shut up man”… “People understand”…

    I’m WAY cool with Trump just talking over everyone.

  130. 130.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    Biden is being Biden.  Nice.

  131. 131.

    Mary G

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    This is as if Biden was debating a random word generator powered by PCP. #Debates2020— Rex Huppke (@RexHuppke) September 30, 2020

  132. 132.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    @Quinerly: Yeah, it might run me out. When they do the tv ratings, do they just give one number or do they show the numbers at the beginning and the end? Cuz I have a feeling it’ll be way different.

  133. 133.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    @Luciamia: He just told him to shut up.

  134. 134.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    “That was really a productive segment, wasn’t it?”

    LOLOLOLOL

  135. 135.

    CarolPW

    September 29, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    When Joe said “Will you shut up man” I actually stood up and clapped.

  136. 136.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @Baud:   You knew it was coming.  And Joe advises voting.

    Fucking Trump is

    WOULD YOU SHUT UP, MAN?

    Love it.

  137. 137.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    This was a really productive segment.

  138. 138.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @Baud:

    Will you shut up man?

    Safe prediction: “No”

  139. 139.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    Trump: “For 47 years you’ve done nothing.” I assume he’s talking about 1933-1980. Christ.

  140. 140.

    TS (the original)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    A sh!t show indeed – I decided to watch for 30 seconds.

  141. 141.

    Sab

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Maybe his wife cut it. My guy isn’t looking too good lately either.

  142. 142.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Biden did just say “would you shut up?” to him, which is good.

  143. 143.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @Elizabelle: They’re going to have to. They’ll have to cut his mic for “egregiously breaking the rules and not shutting up for 45 seconds to let anyone else talk”.

    Otherwise, I don’t see how it goes on.

  144. 144.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s the makeup. It always gives them away.

  145. 145.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    “Will you shut up, man?”

    Nominate for rotating tag.

  146. 146.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    @Baud: My sister just texted Joe is terrible

  147. 147.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    Wallace.  Two minutes uninterrupted.

    Biden, softly.  Good luck.

  148. 148.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    @Baud:

    Not watching. Can’t stomach it. Did Biden actually just tell Trump to shut up?! Yes! That’s how you handle an asshole like Trump

  149. 149.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    “You don’t panic. He panicked.”

  150. 150.

    WaterGirl

    September 29, 2020 at 9:23 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: That’s a new nym for someone who has 2 pages of comments and replies to him.  100 on a page.

    oatler has 30 pages of comments and replies to oatler.

  151. 151.

    Luciamia

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Sweet!

  152. 152.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @trnc: I don’t have enough cheap Aldi’s wine for this. I was saving my good stuff for election night. This is going to get ugly.

  153. 153.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    Holy fucking shit. I tried watching it, but with Trump’s non-stop interruptions, it’s an unwatchable clusterfuck.

    Thank you for those who are watching so I don’t have to. And definitely buy Hoarse Whisper a drink or two, or three, or four. Massive quantities of alcohol are going to be needed to make it to the end.

  154. 154.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @Elizabelle: Seems to be working. There were a few inarticulate grunts, but no actual interruptions. Yet.

  155. 155.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    Do you think he’ll realize if his mic is cut and if he does he’ll storm off the stage in a huff? Can’t think of a better visual

  156. 156.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    This is insane, but I’ll keep watching just in hopes that Biden calls him a clown again and tells him to shut up again, and looks right at the camera again and says “I’m not going to answer that stupid question, but you folks need to go VOTE.”

  157. 157.

    Sab

    September 29, 2020 at 9:24 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym: I should watch. I bake bread, and I cannot imagine anything more boring to watch. It is also extremely boring to do, but gotta eat.

  158. 158.

    Fair Economist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    Ugh, Nate Silver has become such a villager:

    It’s also one of the more perfunctory and predictable questions on the list, Micah. Which I guess is fine if each candidate needs time to rev up. But it feels a bit anticlimactic; they’re sticking to the script.

    200,000 dead? Democracy at stake? A half TRILLION dollar slush fund that’s disappeared? Who cares, what matters is that the debate be exciting!

  159. 159.

    MomSense

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Yes.

  160. 160.

    raven

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Baud: Who?

  161. 161.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Benw: Whose Ian?

  162. 162.

    Aleta

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    He starts to unravel if he can’t interrupt.

  163. 163.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    The five-hundred-word ramble.

  164. 164.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: I’m reading that he just did. The quote I’m seeing on the Wonkette live blog is “Will you shut up, man?”

    @Sab: Those shows are maybe 5% about the baking. We aren’t reality show watchers, I am absolutely not a baker, never watched any kind of cooking show and I couldn’t figure out the appeal either, but people kept talking about this damned thing so I watched one show.

    Suckered in immediately. Totally addicted.

  165. 165.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    Like we have an accurate count of deaths in this country.

    Trump is such a liar.  The Gish Gallop.

  166. 166.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    9:25 PM: The first “Fake News”. DRINK!

  167. 167.

    Uninvited Guest

    September 29, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Well I mean, yeah, just check my name. But one uninvited guest can recognize another.

  168. 168.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    Now whining about the fake news being unfair to him.

  169. 169.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    Now Joe looks like he’s not even listening to the barrage of lies on his right. He’s just waiting for it to end.

  170. 170.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Fake news.

    Trump:  You could have never have done the job we did.

    That is beyond true.

    Swine flu!  Was that on the bingo card?

  171. 171.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @stinger: Hopefully we get some obvious eye-rolling.

  172. 172.

    Sab

    September 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @Kay: Just what we need. Superspreader in Cleveland.

  173. 173.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Keep talking to the American people, Joe, and ignore the clown on your right.

  174. 174.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 29, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    Trump should be wearing a shock collar.  He’s completely out of control and acting as if he’d been bitten by a rabid dog.

  175. 175.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    “Keep yapping,”  LOLOL

  176. 176.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca:   I like your shock collar idea.

  177. 177.

    Jinchi

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Not watching. Can’t stomach it.

    I’m not watching either. I can’t even stand to listen to late night comics parodying Trump’s voice. I’m a firm believer that he is a living example of the Billy Madison quote:

    At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.

    We should probably take up a collection for the brave souls who are willing to look into the abyss and report back to us.

  178. 178.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    He has “spoken to all the people who needs to be spoken to”.

  179. 179.

    L85NJGT

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    Donnie’s makeup has melted from under his nose and off his chin. Not a good look.

  180. 180.

    MisterForkbeard

    September 29, 2020 at 9:28 pm

    @Elizabelle: That’s probably the right response. “You’re damn right I wouldn’t have done the job you did. We’d have a lot more Americans alive, the economy would be in better shape and our schools would be open nationwide because I wouldn’t spend 10 hours a day watching Fox News and tweeting.”

  181. 181.

    Llelldorin

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    So, according to Trump, we can’t trust Big Pharma, and also must absolutely trust Big Pharma?

  182. 182.

    cmorenc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    Trump is rudely shouting over biden and chris wallace

  183. 183.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:   Watch online. https://www.c-span.org/debates/

  184. 184.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @dmsilev: and we’re still nowhere. He’s the fast food of politics.

  185. 185.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Do you think he’ll realize if his mic is cut and if he does he’ll storm off the stage in a huff? Can’t think of a better visual

    He won’t leave. “They were so scared I was winning, they cut off my mic.” He’d martyr the shit out of it.

  186. 186.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    Bleach! Drink!

     

    Oh, wait, maybe not.

  187. 187.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    I don’t think I have ever hated a human being as much as I hate Trump.

  188. 188.

    L85NJGT

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @Llelldorin:

     

    Alls I heard is he is offshoring the American Pharmaceutical industry.

  189. 189.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I glitched on that for a second too. ?

  190. 190.

    Tazj

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @Wyatt Salamanca: A shock collar, that’s a good one. I was thinking about a trap door.

  191. 191.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @dmsilev: Bleach!

  192. 192.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Bullshit question by Wallace.

  193. 193.

    Emma from FL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Did Joe just told him to get out of the bunker? According to a couple of commenters on Wonkette, Joe is just batting Trump around with a smile.

  194. 194.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:   I wish Biden had taken that tack.

    Trump is fantasy land.  Will be interesting to see the numbers later in the week.

    Although:  BLUE WAVE.  Vote, vote, vote, vote.

  195. 195.

    PsiFighter37

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    This has to be even worse for Trump than I thought it would be.

  196. 196.

    cmorenc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    Trump is so flagrantly full of shit

  197. 197.

    Karen

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

     

     

    I was afraid of something like this. So glad I’m not watching.

  198. 198.

    different-church-lady

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    You know what’s amazing? No matter what we see, the press will find some stupid little thing nobody else noticed and that will become the entire narrative about this debate.

  199. 199.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    I think Trump’s rambling, obviously dishonest assholery isn’t going to win anyone over who wasn’t already a Trumper. After hearing a few minutes of Trump I find myself wishing I were on drugs.

  200. 200.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    So tomorrow’s headlines are going to be about how Joe was uncivil, then? And Trump wins on niceness points for not saying shut up back?

  201. 201.

    oatler.

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: QED

  202. 202.

    debbie

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    Twitter is freaking out, but then, no one’s ever really been able to control Trump. Not even Putin.

  203. 203.

    Amir Khalid

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    I’m watching the CNN livestream on YouTube for as long as I can take it. My impression so far: Wallace keeps telling Trump to shut up and let Biden speak. Trump keeps ignoring him and interrupting Biden. Trump himself lies every time he opens his mouth.

  204. 204.

    mali muso

    September 29, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @Quinerly: Come sit by me (6 feet away of course).

  205. 205.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Yeah yeah yeah, go Joe, talk to US not to that interrupting clown (who referenced “Pocahontas” a few minutes ago).

  206. 206.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Someone on twitter says “Pour one out for the transcribers.”

  207. 207.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    If Trump keeps talking over Biden, Joe should ask Wallace if this is a debate or are you looking to turn it into a fist fight. Wallace is a fail.

  208. 208.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Good summary from Hoarse:

    Trump is just spewing bullshit like the dumbest kid in high school who just snorted six crushed up No-Doz.

    And an astute observation:

    We’ll see where this goes from here but I think we just reached a fork in the road. Trump was trying to push Biden’s buttons. Joe was roused to irritation briefly. And now he’s laughing at Trump like he is a toddler behaving badly. Biden is getting his legs under him.

    Like all narcissists, Trump is utterly reliant on the other person showing emotion. A person who goes “gray rock” and shows none is their kryptonite. If Biden stays unflappable, this will be a long night for Trump.

  209. 209.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    I need another drink. No, not bleach. Yet, anyway.

  210. 210.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    I’m sorry, this is just a shit show. I have love for Joe B but I wish he could finish a thought. I know he has it straight but when he sets up a great argument he starts telling an unrelated story. Luckily Trump is coming off as the lying fucko that he is. Force of will is not enough and also, such an asshole.

  211. 211.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Smart?  Trump is talking about smart?

    Joe:  “Oh give me a break.”

    Trump talking about the greatest economy in history.  Such shit.

  212. 212.

    senyordave

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Quinerly:

    I don’t think I have ever hated a human being as much as I hate Trump.

    Truer words never spoken.  Nothing bad could happen to him that would make me feel sorry for him.  I have more positive feelings for serial murderers than I do for Trump

  213. 213.

    L85NJGT

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Try it without the sound. The side-by-side visuals tell the tale.

  214. 214.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    Glad that Trumpov is talking about what he’ll do with covid with bragging about his big brain. I mean… AND WE HAVE AN HOUR LEFT!

    Just shush for a minute; Lolol

  215. 215.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    “Just shush for a minute.”

  216. 216.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    @cmorenc: That is not exactly breaking news.

  217. 217.

    Aleta

    September 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    Biden should call him an infantile bully.

  218. 218.

    low-tech cyclist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    @West of the Cascades:Fuck Trump and any moderator who lets him talk over Biden’s answers.

    I tuned in about 10 minutes after your comment, and Wallace was still letting Trump talk over Biden’s answers.

    Biden’s a better man than I am.  If Trump kept it up, I’d threaten to come over there and break his mic.

  219. 219.

    Benw

    September 29, 2020 at 9:33 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I am! Lol

  220. 220.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    I’ve decided to swap out cat litter boxes.

  221. 221.

    Amir Khalid

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    Did Trump just accuse Biden of golfing more than he does?

  222. 222.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:   Thank you, SGB.  Link for Hoarse Whisperer??

    Was Nancy Pelosi on the Bingo card?

    Trump just suggested Joe plays more golf than Trump does.  He said that.

    This is only playing with MAGATs, is my take.

    It’s debating the fifth grade bully.  Who is the Simpsons bully??

  223. 223.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    @Amir Khalid:   He did.

    Projection, thy name is Donald.

  224. 224.

    mad citizen

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    Is there a petition we can sign to stop having the other two debates, along with the VP debate?  This is ridiculous.  I imagine we are the world’s laughingstock.

  225. 225.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    If this is how Trump is going to act during all of the debates, I’m not sure Biden should bother after tonight. Nobody sane would blame him

  226. 226.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    And Trump wins on niceness points

    Come on :)

  227. 227.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @senyordave: it’s unhealthy for me to feel this way. I never knew I had it in me. I hate him more tonight than all days combined.

  228. 228.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @Leto: Don’t forget overtime! And then the shoot out.

  229. 229.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @Coolg: Joe should ask Wallace if this is a debate or are you looking to turn it into a fist fight. Wallace is a fail.

    I’m not sure what Wallace can do to shut DT up.

  230. 230.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @mad citizen:

    It’s Chris Wallace. He’s terrible. I knew he would be.

  231. 231.

    ninerdave

    September 29, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    Is there any reason why Biden shouldn’t just tell the Orange Filibuster to fuck off and blow off the next two debates?

  232. 232.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): agree.

  233. 233.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    “No problem whatsoever” with rallies. Tell that to Herman Cain.

  234. 234.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Even better, IMO, he’s looking straight at the camera and addressing the wider audience.

  235. 235.

    danielx

    September 29, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @Quinerly:

    White hot heat of a thousand suns

  236. 236.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @trnc:

    Cut his microphone when he won’t STFU. Let him play the martyr. It will only fly with his brain dead base

  237. 237.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: I have a handle of whiskey I haven’t opened but I’m seriously, seriously reconsidering that.

  238. 238.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    “He’s a fool on this”!!! (masking)

  239. 239.

    different-church-lady

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Is the second debate still one where they get to roam about on stage? I predict Trump looms up behind Biden and Joe swings around and cold-cocks him.

  240. 240.

    Avalune

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Does anyone golf as much as Trump? I don’t think Scottie Scheffler golfs as much as Trump does.

  241. 241.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    @trnc: He could open his mouth and tell him he’s breaking the fucking rules.

  242. 242.

    dnfree

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    This is ludicrous. Not a single question has been answered. They should cut the microphone of whoever interrupts, which would mostly be Trump. The moderator is worse than ineffective.  It’s appalling.

  243. 243.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    My high schooler just said “I think, legally, no one over the age of 60 should hold public office”

    I love “legally”

  244. 244.

    Ohio Mom

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    Amir @ 203: I don’t think there is anything to add to your description.

  245. 245.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:37 pm

    @mad citizen: I think the VP debate will actually be much more worthwhile. Pence will lie, but he doesn’t have DT’s schtick so he probably won’t just word diarrhea all over Harris’ time.

  246. 246.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Kay: You don’t think the pundits would take it that far?

    OK, maybe “both sides showed unusual incivility.”

    Edit: I see someone on Wonkette posted Breitbart’s headlines.

    “Trump dominates early stages”

    “Tough guy Joe keeps telling to shut up, calls president clown” (is that supposed to be bad?)

    “Trump puts Joe on defense over alliance with the left”

  247. 247.

    Salty Sam

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    That’s it. I’m done. Tappin’ out.

    As Popeye says, “That’s all I kin stands, I can’t stands no more…”

  248. 248.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Benw: I’m sure it’s very crowded in there.

  249. 249.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @different-church-lady: 2nd is the town-hall format, but they might tweak things to eliminate the free-range candidates.

  250. 250.

    I'll be Frank

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Uninvited Guest: how would they know?  Unless they came together.

  251. 251.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Yes, yes he did.

  252. 252.

    Mary G

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    Joe
    Joe’s social media people are good:

    Chris Wallace fails to point out that Donald Trump has held super-spreader indoor rallies just as recently as earlier this month.#Debates2020https://t.co/9LX7j7QqDR— Biden | Harris War Room (Text JOE to 30330) (@BidenWarRoom) September 30, 2020

  253. 253.

    Suzanne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    “China plague”.

  254. 254.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    I am watching at Sighthound Hall with Bro’ Man and a couple of others. It’s killing me. I realize that I prefer watching at home and venting on the keyboard. I feel like I’m building up a ball of rage that I can’t dispel.

    My takeaway so far: Trump is a colossal, mean-spirited asshole. Not news, but he’s really putting it on display.

  255. 255.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    Glad Chris Wallace is just letting him spew hate speech with China plague, and Pocahontas earlier. JFC.

    Also the difference between someone who will buy a tailored suit v Wal-Mart special is always striking. Also helps that Biden doesn’t look like 330lbs in a 10lbs sack.

  256. 256.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    @dmsilev:

    The town hall format? That’s the one Trump didn’t do so well in. I hope they take questions from the audience

  257. 257.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 29, 2020 at 9:39 pm

    @Elizabelle: Hoarse Whisper tweets at:

    https://twitter.com/TheRealHoarse

    (he changed his handle recently)

    He’s got some of the best insights into narcissists that I’ve seen—apparently from long first-hand experience, although I don’t know the details.

  258. 258.

    Mary G

    September 29, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    This should put to rest the spin that Chris Wallace is good at his job.

  259. 259.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Amir Khalid:  @Adam L Silverman: I do not believe I have ever seen Joe on a golf course….

  260. 260.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    Thrice-married Trump is blaming Biden for the rise of divorce in this country???

  261. 261.

    Luciamia

    September 29, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Kay: No, the headlines tomorrow should be “What the fuck was THAT?”

  262. 262.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Leto: Pace yourself. And remember to hydrate!

  263. 263.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    “Can I get my time back?”

    You go, Joe.

  264. 264.

    Emma from FL

    September 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Bikes and fast cars. Joe’s a cool cat.

  265. 265.

    Immanentize

    September 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Baud: there is that number again!

  266. 266.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Salty Sam:   You know, that might be Trump’s game plan.

    Drive viewers away, and they don’t get to see Biden at all.

    Missed a bunch cuz a friend called.  But:  have not really missed anything, no??

  267. 267.

    Avalune

    September 29, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Mary G: I mean yeah look at what he’s working with here?

  268. 268.

    Baud

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Wallace sucks.

  269. 269.

    MazeDancer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Maybe Trump is trying to get Mr. Biden to refuse to debate him again.

    I had to stop listening.

    Pretty sure Trump’s repulsive bullying is not bringing back the suburban housewives.

  270. 270.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @senyordave:

    I don’t think I have ever hated a human being as much as I hate Trump.

    Trump might not have every human vice, but he has no human virtues at all. NONE. It’s amazing. It’s like his parents set out to raise the perfect shit, and they succeeded.

  271. 271.

    mad citizen

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @ninerdave: No, no reason at all. Biden needs to bring up the tax issue….here we go.

  272. 272.

    Amir Khalid

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Kay:

    Wallace has no control over Trump’s atrocious conduct and persistent lying. He’s not up to moderating this debate.

    I don’t think it’s possible to moderate a debate with Trump participating unless you publicly threaten to cut his mic when he speaks out of turn, and actually do it.

  273. 273.

    different-church-lady

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @dmsilev:

    …but they might tweak things to eliminate the free-range candidates.

    You mean like shock collars?

  274. 274.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Ceci n est pas mon nym:

    I don’t think Biden had a choice. If the moderator won’t do the job Biden has to do it or he’ll look weak.

  275. 275.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Avalune: I lived in Scotland for 3 and 1/2 years less than a 3/4 mile walk from the Royal and Ancient and I was a Bobby Jones Scholar/Fellow and I didn’t golf as much as Trump.

    Actually, I think I golfed twice in my 3 and 1/2 years there. I haven’t played in over 20 years.

  276. 276.

    Avalune

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    He single handedly brought back football! Our savior!

  277. 277.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Utterly useless, a travesty of a debate.  Designed for the bully.  Doesn’t matter, it won’t change anyone’s mind.  Either voters are energized against Trump’s fascism or they’re not.

  278. 278.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Kevin M. Kruse @KevinMKruse

    This is already the worst presidential debate I’ve ever seen.

    9:24 PM · Sep 29, 2020

    https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1311114707823198210

  279. 279.

    wuzzat

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Aleta:  You’re assuming Trump cares about being called a bully and that he knows what the word “infantile” means. I doubt either of those is true.

    On the other hand, answering his attacks with variations of “Tough talk from a guy who’s a billion dollars in debt” would hit cheeto mussolini in his ego.

  280. 280.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Mary G:

    Wallace is awful.

  281. 281.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    @Mary G: Don’t think anyone except Fox bots really thought that. Sure, he asked some tough questions once but with just this debate he can’t even enforce the 2 min rule. Just let trumpov get in another word salad response when they were supposed to move on.

  282. 282.

    dmsilev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    The tax question. Much incoherent verbiage inbound…

  283. 283.

    L85NJGT

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    Trump is sweating so much his bald spot head is showing.

  284. 284.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Kay: Also, illegally.

  285. 285.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:   Thank you.

    Trump dumping on NYC.  Cuomo.

    Fuck Trump fuck Trump.

    Trump brought back football.  Ohio is very proud of him.

    Trump’s economic plan IS football.

     

    $750!!

  286. 286.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    Joe: “Show us your tax returns. Show us your tax returns.”

  287. 287.

    NoraLenderbee

    September 29, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    the tax question. “I paid millions of dollars income tax”

     

    It’s Biden’s fault for giving us depreciation and tax breaks

  288. 288.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    Joe:  Show us your tax returns.

    Trump:  You’ll see it as soon as it’s finished.

    Claims to be underleveraged.  “The assets are extremely good.”

    Jesus.

  289. 289.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    He’s maybe caught off guard by how out of control Trump is. Trump is way more out of control now than he was in ’16, just across the board.

  290. 290.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    holy shit, wallace sucks at this.

    he REALLY needs to take control of this debate.

  291. 291.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    @EmanG:

    Josh Barro @jbarro·3m
    By the way, I would note that Biden is handling this just fine, and that your twitter feed is composed entirely of people who did not understand Biden’s appeal in the primary, plus me.

    To which I would add: In my adult lifetime this country has elected four Republican presidents, two of them for two terms, none of whom could speak a fully coherent paragraph of English, even a short one, without a script.

  292. 292.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): He didn’t do well in any of them in 2016. It didn’t matter because, by and large, these debates don’t matter. They’re a vestige of a different time and a different society.

  293. 293.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Trump:  I don’t want to pay taxes.

    Blaming Biden ?? for all the tax dodges Trump enjoys??

  294. 294.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    “BECAUSE YOU WEREN’T PRESIDENT SCREWING THINGS UP!”

  295. 295.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    “You’re the worst President America has ever had”!!!!!! Said with disgust!  GO JOE!

  296. 296.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @Sister Golden Bear:

    He’s got some of the best insights into narcissists that I’ve seen—apparently from long first-hand experience, although I don’t know the details.

    The Hoarse Whisperer was married to a toxic narcissist. Now he’s divorced from one.

  297. 297.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    All this POS is going to do is lie his fat ass off. Why in the world do we have to put up with his shit?

  298. 298.

    p.a.

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Thanks for the updates, I’m enjoying watching Strictly Dumpling.

    So how will the media spin this as a loss for Biden?

  299. 299.

    PJ

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Chris Wallace is such a schmuck.

  300. 300.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Jesus, Biden has so many lay ups here: “Who developed the economy you inherited? Who helped set that up, me! What’s happened to it under your watch? I helped give you the greatest economic expansion after a recession ever, what have you done with what I gave you?” Godammit who prepped him?

  301. 301.

    Spanky

    September 29, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: 

    Someone on twitter says “Pour one out for the transcribers.”

    Oh God. I’m not watching, but please don’t tell me someone has to ASL sign everything Trump spews.

  302. 302.

    Anne Laurie

    September 29, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    New post up top, for freshness! (Bonus Biden clip… )

  303. 303.

    Elizabelle

    September 29, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    Biden:  “You are the worst President America has ever had.”

    Trump says he’s done more than Biden has in 47 years.

    Wallace:  Big taxes, big spending.

    For fuck’s sake, has he paid any attention to Trump’s record??

  304. 304.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He’s now moodily picking an acoustic guitar. We’ve lost him.

  305. 305.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    “big government,  big taxes, big spending”

    jesus fucking fucks.

    wallace REALLY sucks.

  306. 306.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I’m sure he plays. No one in his generation of high level politicians, especially the white male ones, could get away with not playing. But I’ve never seen any indication that he plays a lot.

  307. 307.

    The Thin Black Duke

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    From what I’m hearing from you folks, I think Biden is handling it perfectly. The idiots who want to see two guys yelling at each other don’t want a debate between two presidential candidates, they want wrestling.

  308. 308.

    Ivan X

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    I’m just sitting in the hot tub at my temporary home, drinking gin and Campari, with thumping psychedelic tunes in my noise cancelling ear pods, reading what you all have to say. I can’t take being on the spectator front lines. Life is good, I am blessed, i am fortunate, I am privileged, Covid be damned, Trump be damned, i will keep reminding myself of this. God or FSM bless us all, and the United States of America. I’m not saying that mockingly.

  309. 309.

    different-church-lady

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    @Spanky: It’s pretty simple actually: just run your finger up and down over the lips in the “brbrbrbrbrbrbrbrb” motion.

  310. 310.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    To be fair to Wallace, he has tried to make Trump stay in his lane. I don’t think Trump is helping himself by trying to shout Wallace down and blatantly evading the questions.  Biden is talking to the American people, while Trump is just trying to interrupt and lie and bully.  This is a hideous, exhausting event, but I don’t see how it helps Trump in any way.  I suspect that it’s helping Biden, is anyone. Remember that a draw is a win for Decent, Honest Joe.

  311. 311.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    @stinger: Man with five kids (that we know of) from three wives who lives in public housing said what?

  312. 312.

    Viva BrisVegas

    September 29, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    Why is Wallace there? He’s not moderating.

  313. 313.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    Also, Wallace is flailing

  314. 314.

    Uninvited Guest

    September 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    @I’ll be Frank: I’d think  anyone would recognize the one who said Joe Biden looked like a geezer when Trump was right there.

  315. 315.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    @ezraklein

    Trump is forcing an unwatchable debate, in which he plays the heel so Biden can’t get in a full answer, in an election where he’s down 10 points. It’s an insane strategy.

  316. 316.

    jonas

    September 29, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    Wow. Just dropping in here after doing some other stuff this evening and from what I gather here and on my Twitter feed, Trump’s approach to this august occasion has basically been to drop his trousers, take a huge dump on the stage, and proceed to fling said waste at Wallace and Biden in turn, depending on who’s agitating him more.

    His base thinks this is “pwning the libs”. Sane humans think it’s a sign his family needs to intervene and get him the help he needs.

    And the *truly insane* part is that this won’t move the polls. one. inch.

  317. 317.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @different-church-lady: Trip wires, snares, tiger pits…

  318. 318.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    “This guy is something,” shaking his head.

  319. 319.

    Kay

    September 29, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @Viva BrisVegas:

    He’s there to ask Right wing questions.

  320. 320.

    luc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Biden is not good this evening, unfortunately.

    He should have his talking points ready and poignant for the few seconds that he has the time to talk.

  321. 321.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Wallace, for dog’s sake let Biden finish ONE SENTENCE. Cut the damn mike.

  322. 322.

    wuzzat

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    @stinger: Let’s not be ethnocentric. He’s the worst president any country has ever had.

  323. 323.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    9:50 PM: First mention of Hunter Biden and Burisma. DRINK!

  324. 324.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    I’m trying to think of a Democrat who could face this down.  Bill Clinton probably could have owned the room and kept it.  Bernie Sanders *might* have held his own.  But Kennedy?  Carter?  Forget it.  Joe won’t go for the jugular, but what’s the point?

  325. 325.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Biden cannot talk policy when he’s mud-wrestling with a pig.

  326. 326.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    wow, there you go. hunter biden.

  327. 327.

    nonrev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Just turned the debate off. Hard core progressive here. We knew what to expect from Trump so his antics are not surprising. What is disappointing to me is that Bidens responses and ability to score is weak. Wallace frequently loses control also… which plays to Trumps strengths. I expect the talking heads will rule this debate a tie unless one or the other strikes a real blow…. anyway, I’ve seen enough

  328. 328.

    mad citizen

    September 29, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Biden should simply continue point out the raving bullshit artist, a spewing con artist with no manners or respect for any fucking one

     

    Might have to bail.

  329. 329.

    Leto

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    I’m not going to watch the next two debates because there’s simply no point. I don’t even want to watch the clips, don’t even want to read transcripts. This is just shit. It’s worse than shit. It’s Trump.

  330. 330.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    “He doesn’t want to let me answer because he knows I have the truth.”

  331. 331.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    I wish to my soul that Senator Warren had a chip that controlled Biden’s mouth.

  332. 332.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    @Morzer: I hope you’re right. I think Joe is doing pretty well with the parade of bullshit, but I’m a bit concerned that DT will be seen by some the same way they saw Reagan when he wouldn’t shut the hell up.

  333. 333.

    Aleta

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    Cut his mike Mike.

  334. 334.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 29, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    Anyone have an update on the asteroid headed toward Earth? Just asking.

  335. 335.

    WhatsMyNym

    September 29, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    The counter at ActBlue is going wild !!

  336. 336.

    cckids

    September 29, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    Did Drumpf say “You’re a #2?” What the actual fuck.

  337. 337.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    “It’s not about his family or my family,” looks to camera, “it’s about YOUR family.”

  338. 338.

    mad citizen

    September 29, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    I support Biden walking out right now.

  339. 339.

    nonrev

    September 29, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @luc: amen.   Biden is weak IMO, hopefully he will stop chuckling at Trumps attacks and lies soon.  Ditto the head shaking

  340. 340.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @EmanG: Would that be the Senator Warren who didn’t win a single primary and finished third in her home state, which went to a guy who didn’t even have an office open there? What was his name again?

  341. 341.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @EmanG: I wish to my soul that Senator Warren had a chip that controlled Biden’s mouth.

    YES! I supported her in the primaries, but I totally understand why Biden is the nominee. However, there is no one better than Warren at shutting down the spew.

  342. 342.

    Searcher

    September 29, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @Grover Gardner: Andrew Jackson?

  343. 343.

    Adam L Silverman

    September 29, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @The Thin Black Duke: He’s doing fine. Part of the audio-visual play is how this plays with women. Regardless of race, ethnicity, and/or religion. The President is presenting as every obnoxious, controlling asshole that every woman knows or dated or was/is married too.

  344. 344.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    September 29, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @Morzer:

    I agree with Ezra. Trump is a knuckle dragging neanderthal incapable of comprehending anything.

    Trump needs to be placed in a straitjacket and carted off to the nearest psych ward and Chris Wallace is beyond pathetic.

  345. 345.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: every asshole boss, especially the ones who took over the business from their father and ran it into the ground

    every bellowing bully at the HOA, PTA or whatever meeting

  346. 346.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @mad citizen: I opened another bottle of wine. I’m going to stick it out.

  347. 347.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @mad citizen: I support Biden walking out right now.

    “If Joe Biden can’t stand up to DT, …” would be the headline everywhere. It’s ridiculous, but dealing with this crap is part of the job interview.

  348. 348.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @jonas: A very good description of Trump. Also he is so wired on uppers he’s about to jump out of his skin.

  349. 349.

    James E Powell

    September 29, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    The President is presenting as every obnoxious, controlling asshole that every woman knows or dated or was/is married too.

    That’s how he locks down the white male, no college, 30-55 demo.

  350. 350.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    I really didn’t realize before how big a chickenshit Wallace is.

  351. 351.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    I think Joe’s handling things about as well as you can, given that he’s debating a crooked, lying sociopath with the maturity of a sugar-deranged toddler.

  352. 352.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yeah, the one than can make a cogent argument! I’m 100% pro Joe, but I wish he could make more immediate arguments. Also, Trump just said that the African Americans love him more so, godammit what do words mean anymore?

  353. 353.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    wow. why can’t biden say the words, “law enforcement”?!?

    tang the conqueror is mad as a fucking hatter.

  354. 354.

    Ivan X

    September 29, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    Based on the comments here, if there is anyone left to persuade at this point, I guess this election will be a referendum on whether the primal human brain responds positively to dominance or not.

  355. 355.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The President is presenting as every obnoxious, controlling asshole that every woman knows or dated or was/is married too.

    He’ll probably be wearing a wife beater shirt in the 2nd debate.

  356. 356.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @James E Powell: I wouldn’t bet against that, but a lot of them have worked for that dumbass who ran the business he inherited into the ground, too

    I’m choosing optimism tonight

  357. 357.

    Immanentize

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Quinerly: Trump makes me sin against charity.  Every fucking day.

  358. 358.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @James E Powell:

    He also still has white women, sad to say.

  359. 359.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    every asshole boss, especially the ones who took over the business from their father and ran it into the ground

    And yet blue-collar white men vote for their asshole boss. White supremacy is a hell of a drug.

  360. 360.

    Eljai

    September 29, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Quinerly:  I’m sticking it out too!  Cheers?

  361. 361.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  Again, mistaking my wish for a more coherent verbal argument for downplaying the desired result.

  362. 362.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    “He’s the racist.” Tell that truth, Joe.

  363. 363.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    Joe talking about race is really good.

    ETA: And DT’s response is nonsensical, as expected.

  364. 364.

    Morzer

    September 29, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @RadioFreeTom

    I think one take away from the debate so far is that Trump is going to end up scaring the normals. #Debate2020

  365. 365.

    Suzanne

    September 29, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: He has white women without college degrees.

  366. 366.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:02 pm

    “Oh my lord, this is ridiculous.”  lolol

  367. 367.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    damn, that was a good answer, joe.

  368. 368.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    I don’t know how anyone could debate Trump… Especially tonight. I have to wonder how Obama would have handled this if he was debating Trump. This is off the rails. Can’t even begin to compare to Clinton/Trump debates.

  369. 369.

    Gravenstone

    September 29, 2020 at 10:04 pm

    @dmsilev: Fitting Trump with a locked collar and chaining him to his chair would be an appropriate start. Wiring his testicles to shock his ignorant ass every time he opens his yap out of turn would also be acceptable.

  370. 370.

    Sebastian

    September 29, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    I had to stop watching. It literally gave me a headache and a ton of PTSD. An unreal experience.

    I am disappointed that Joe didn’t go meta and call him out about his behavior. Challenge him to stop interrupting.

  371. 371.

    Quinerly

    September 29, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    @Eljai: cheers! What you drinking?

  372. 372.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    “He wouldn’t know a suburb if he got lost in one. This isn’t 1950 and dog whistles on race don’t work any more.”

  373. 373.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 29, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    @EmanG:

    Yeah, the one than can make a cogent argument!

    For policies actual voters don’t like!

    you’re mistaking your own preferences for those of the people who actually decide elections in this country. They vote for affect

  374. 374.

    James E Powell

    September 29, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    Twitter will be overrun with right-wingers crowing about Trump totally owned Biden!

    They love his act. The question is, will anyone else?

  375. 375.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    @Gravenstone: Wiring his testicles to shock his ignorant ass every time he opens his yap out of turn would also be acceptable.

    I think you just figured out Biden’s next fundraiser.

  376. 376.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 29, 2020 at 10:07 pm

    I recognized .oatler’s ‘nym… but there are certainly a few others tonight who I don’t recognize, and who seem to be here to attempt to stir the #$%. Glad to see that the jackals are letting those attempts flop.

    Re: the debates: I’ve never heard That Man (as my mother calls him) speak, and I see no reason to start now. :)

    Time to deal with the bread that’s in the oven. Ciao!

  377. 377.

    Suzanne

    September 29, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    Joe is doing yeoman’s work here. This is a Kobayashi Maru.

  378. 378.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 29, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    Sam turned it on but shut it off in disgust after just a couple of minutes while Biden seemed sort of reduced to sputtering by Trump’s bully clown act. I hope Biden managed to recover a bit of composure after that because I could see all too well what both-sidesy reporters would do with what little I saw.

  379. 379.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:  Again, missing the point. Not talking about policies, talking about the ability to make a cogent point! To make clear, concise statements that directly take down the puffery of the opponent. The ability to tell a story to those who vote why you’re the best choice. Is that a hard point to understand?

    You’re talking about affect, I’m talking about effect.

  380. 380.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 10:09 pm

    Shut his fucking microphone off.

  381. 381.

    sanjeevs

    September 29, 2020 at 10:10 pm

    No question about Russia. No question about Trump’s campaign team having been convicted of criminal acts.

    All that shit just normalized.

  382. 382.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    Joe good on DT’s response to riots. Pouring gasoline on the fire.

    I would like for Joe to point out that violent protest, while wrong, is to be expected when the non-violent protest is ignored, insulted and threatened by DT.

  383. 383.

    Immanentize

    September 29, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @Suzanne: oh that is such a perfect analogy.  ?

  384. 384.

    Eljai

    September 29, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    @Suzanne:  There have been a couple recent midwest polls that show Dump has lost ground with both groups since 2016, that is college and non-college white women.

  385. 385.

    Viva BrisVegas

    September 29, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    Trump tells the Proud Boys to stand by.

  386. 386.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: I hope Biden managed to recover a bit of composure after that

    He’s been doing better.

  387. 387.

    dnfree

    September 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    Every single segment so far the moderator says we’re done with that issue, moving on to the next one, and the previous issue was never even addressed. They all just end with shouting. This guy probably makes millions of dollars and he’s revealing his complete incompetence at moderating and his inability to change course in response to events.

  388. 388.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    “antifa will overthrow YOU!”

    seriously, derp furor is SO crazypants!!

    ….and now the russian hoax.

    (oh, and now we know why ratcliffe declassified that disinformation,)

  389. 389.

    Suzanne

    September 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    @Immanentize: There is no way to do well here, although I don’t think that Joe’s done badly. I think surviving a fight with a crazy primate on stimulants is a victory of its own sort.

  390. 390.

    Sister Golden Bear

    September 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: Joe’s got his groove back. Staying calm and collected—denying Trump the ability to get under his skin.

    He’s also throwing the occasional shade, and for a while was laughing almost every time Trump spoke. Narcissists hate being laughed at.

    Trump’s getting repeating punched in the mouth now.

  391. 391.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:13 pm

    “He’s Putin’s puppy”

  392. 392.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    This is not a debate. Wallace has allowed it to devolve into a stump speech for Trump.

  393. 393.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    Joe needs to say that republicans filibustered the shit out of every Obama nominee and then chucked it when it was convenient for them.

  394. 394.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    September 29, 2020 at 10:15 pm

    I had to take a Xanax. I’m practically shaking, and I conduct hardcore divorce trials and mediations daily.

  395. 395.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    Every time Trump brings up Hunter’s money why doesn’t Biden bring up the freaking run amok nepotism in his White House?

  396. 396.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    Forest management. Oh please please please tell us about how they rake their forests.

  397. 397.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:18 pm

    Has DT offered any funding to rake the forests or whatever the fuck he says, or does he just say someone else should do it?

  398. 398.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    “head of a major country. forest cities. sir, we have exploding trees.”

    he is IMPOSSIBLY stupid.

    (as well as QUITE insane.)

  399. 399.

    trnc

    September 29, 2020 at 10:20 pm

    @EmanG: Every time Trump brings up Hunter’s money why doesn’t Biden bring up the freaking run amok nepotism in his White House?

    Probably because everyone else talks about it for him, but he should probably mention it at least once.

  400. 400.

    ...now I try to be amused

    September 29, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    @Suzanne:

    This is a Kobayashi Maru.

    And an Augean Stables.

  401. 401.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 10:23 pm

    @trnc: I agree, but this is the MOMENT, live on tv. Not degrading Joe, but as someone who deals in messaging on the daily, so many easy, easy points to make missed make me crazy inside.

  402. 402.

    CaseyL

    September 29, 2020 at 10:24 pm

    I’m only following this shitfest here and on Twitter, and I’m into my third drink.

    If I were actually watching, I might be trying to score some serious narcotics.

  403. 403.

    Haydnseek

    September 29, 2020 at 10:25 pm

    @stinger: C’mon Joe!  Say it!  Noun, suburb, 2020.

  404. 404.

    eddie blake

    September 29, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    “stupid bastard. on tape.”

    FFS.

    what an asshole.

  405. 405.

    EmanG

    September 29, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    Ok, Wallace saying “I’m having a little trouble myself” is freaking hilarious.

  406. 406.

    Eljai

    September 29, 2020 at 10:28 pm

    I predict the orange bloviator will claim victory after this debate tonight but when the next round of polls come out, he’ll be further behind.

  407. 407.

    planetjanet

    September 29, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    Best line from a friend tonight:  Brokahontas needs a shock collar.

  408. 408.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 10:38 pm

    Chris Wallace you are the worst. Cut the freaking mike.

  409. 409.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    I’m on my third cocktail too, but if I were Biden, I’d say, “We’re done here, Chris.  But let me ask you this, Mr. Trump.  Your own sister, a respected lawyer and federal judge,  said you can’t be trusted.   Now tell everyone watching that your sister is a liar.”

  410. 410.

    Coolg

    September 29, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    Total shitshow. Expect the same from the next two.

  411. 411.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    @Eljai: I hope you’re right.

  412. 412.

    Zelma

    September 29, 2020 at 10:39 pm

    I’m not even watching it and I’m on my second glass of wine.

  413. 413.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 10:40 pm

    @Coolg: There are three of these?  Biden should just walk away.

  414. 414.

    WaterGirl

    September 29, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    who else feels like they need a shower after that?

  415. 415.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 10:42 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I hear you.  But hold off on that Xanax, because this won’t change anything.

  416. 416.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 10:43 pm

    @EmanG: You can’t fight this sort of Hitlerism.

  417. 417.

    Another Scott

    September 29, 2020 at 10:44 pm

    Catching up with the threads…

    My record of political prognosticating remains unbeaten.  I thought there would be no debate, and said so many times.  I was wrong.

    Psst – Ya want next week’s lottery numbers??!!

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  418. 418.

    randy khan

    September 29, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    @Adam L Silverman:

    He didn’t do well in any of them in 2016. It didn’t matter because, by and large, these debates don’t matter. They’re a vestige of a different time and a different society.

    In 2016, Clinton’s polling improved noticeably after every debate.  It was a really clear bump each time.

  419. 419.

    Captain C

    September 29, 2020 at 11:00 pm

    @trnc: Not after he sees how much like Jabba the Hutt* he looks in it when he looks in the mirror.

     

    *a successful gangster

  420. 420.

    Captain C

    September 29, 2020 at 11:01 pm

    @Quinerly: The question is whether LBJ would have decked him, or just whipped it out and said, “Now you, littlehands.”

  421. 421.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    My takeaway so far: Trump is a colossal, mean-spirited asshole. Not news, but he’s really putting it on display.

    This. I can’t believe how in your face he was. He just would not shut up. Interrupted both Biden and Wallace, seconds after being firmly requested not to. Over and over. What a bully.

  422. 422.

    Grover Gardner

    September 29, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    @Captain C:  I forgot about LBJ.  He probably would have owned Trump.

  423. 423.

    randy khan

    September 29, 2020 at 11:13 pm

    This is not to suggest I don’t love all of you (and it is said without watching the debate because I knew it would be nearly impossible to watch), but in 1984 I attended a debate watch party with a Mondale-Ferraro campaign group and at one point after Mondale’s response to a question about the Sandinistas the guy next to me started saying that Mondale should have talked about land reform or something equally obscure.  (This was the debate that ended with the Reagan closing statement where he seemed to forget where he was.)

    Don’t be that guy.  What Biden needed to do tonight was be Joe Biden, the candidate people know, the genuine article.  From what I’ve seen, he did that just fine.  He didn’t need to make all the clever responses that we thought about in our heads, and it undoubtedly was, at least in part, a conscious strategy not to do so.

  424. 424.

    stinger

    September 29, 2020 at 11:17 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: The “context”, to use the word loosely, was how the U.S. economy is faring under covid. Trump said that because people are staying home more, divorce is on the increase. And it’s all the fault of the previous administration. That’s the best I can do to explain it!

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