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Trump Crime Cartel Open Thread: The Son-In-Law & His Cronies

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My old man used to say, “Those guys get their suits tailored with rubber pockets, so they can steal soup.”

… Federal Election Commission records show that the Trump campaign has made no salary payments to chief strategist Jason Miller, who came on board in June, or to campaign manager Bill Stepien, who joined the campaign in late 2018 and took over the top job from Brad Parscale in July. Kushner agreed to both arrangements, and personally directed the payments to Miller, the person involved said…

Instead, the campaign has paid these top-tier advisers through intermediaries — some of which are still unknown.

For instance, according to the source, after salary negotiations with Miller, Kushner directed the campaign to route the top strategist’s $35,000 monthly payment through Jamestown Associates, a media and production firm where Miller once worked, and which the campaign contracts for video production. Miller, who is currently contesting child-support payments in court, requested the anonymous arrangement for the $420,000 annual rate, for unclear reasons. Communications, court documents and FEC filings reviewed by Salon make clear that the money was paid to by way of Jamestown. President Trump himself was aware of the deal, a person involved said.

To this point, the campaign has not told government that it has paid Miller anything. Instead, it has stated that all payments to Jamestown are for “video production,” without mentioning Miller’s name or strategy work. Furthermore, Miller’s official role means that he has often directed how and when the campaign uses Jamestown Associates, the company that technically pays him…

Getting paid off the books to screw over your baby mamas will no doubt resonate with a certain portion of Trump’s (Very) Base, but it remains legally… dubious.

… When previously asked about the missing payroll receipts, Brendan Fischer, director of the Federal Reform Program at the Campaign Legal Center, told Salon, “It doesn’t surprise me at all. The Trump campaign has disguised millions of dollars in payments to personnel and vendors by routing the money through LLCs created or managed by senior Trump campaign officials.”

In July the CLC filed an FEC complaint alleging that the Trump campaign had unlawfully covered up at least $170 million in payments through AMMC, thereby keeping its spending a secret from federal enforcement agencies, its own donors and the public. Some campaign disbursements allegedly went towards salaries, the complaint says, such as payments to Kimberly Guilfoyle and Lara Trump, who were on the Parscale Strategy payroll.


Like his old man before him, Prince Jared is gonna keep some Federal attorneys gainfully employed well into the future.

And that’s assuming his father-in-law doesn’t eviscerate him for disloyalty, first…

… Among the Trump faithful, resentment at Kushner has risen in the past couple weeks. Two other sources close to the president respectively described Kushner as “nowhere to be found” and having “run for cover.” At the start of these efforts, Kushner was at least nominally supportive of his father-in-law’s legal and public-relations blitz, with top Trump adviser Jason Miller saying in early November, “Jared has been more hardcore in fighting back on this than anybody.” But several of the president’s confidants do not believe that the senior White House adviser has faith in Trump’s flailing push to undo the election results now….

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  3. 3.

    Spanky

    His oath to uphold the constitution? Show me! Everything I’ve read sez he’s an unpaid advisor. Oaths are for suckers.

  5. 5.

    Brachiator

    Jared has been overseas as Trump takes an even more aggressive turn to the conspiratorial. And several Trump aides are angered by what they see as his typical disappearing act

    These rats are surprised when a fellow rodent is disloyal?

    Too funny.

    And where is Maggie Haberman? Is she taking notes about the final days of this mess?

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I certainly hope so!  When I was saying they didn’t seem to think it was illegal, I wasn’t thinking of the child support thing.  They were just saying that paying a lot of the bills out of the double-secret corporation wasn’t illegal.

    Personally, I hope they get nailed on everything.

  11. 11.

    Alison Rose

    I want to contact the publisher of every Yiddish-English dictionary (………however many of those there are) and demand that they replace the definition of shanda fur die goyim with a picture of Jared’s very punchable face.

  12. 12.

    cope

    Well, at this point, whenever one of these revelations is made, my default thoughts are that I would be surprised if something like this DIDN’T emerge. It might make a fun parlor game in the future to try to come up with previously unknown deceits, lies, crimes, shady dealings, moral failures or crimes against nature that this collection of repugnant fools is NOT eventually shown to be guilty of.

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    Please please please let us win both seats in Georgia.  Just for a second I let myself imagine what that would feel like, and I would love for us to get to experience that.  God knows we are due for some great news and unmitigated happiness after the last 4+ years.

  15. 15.

    Mary G

    @Brachiator: Maggie was live tweeting the House Republicans’ phone conference until Kevin McCarthy noticed someone was leaking in real time and hung up.

    This was followed by someone on the call saying Trump threw House GOP under the bus.— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 23, 2020

  16. 16.

    debbie

    @WaterGirl:

    I usually don’t need to see karma work its magic; knowing that it will is enough for me. But for Jared and the rest, I really, really want to witness them getting their comeuppances.

  17. 17.

    MattF

    Estimates I’ve seen for the campaign grift come to about a half-billion buckaroonies. The incoming total, pre-theft, was a bit over a billion, so about half the incoming money was stolen. I suppose that wasn’t really enough for everyone, but Jared did his best, considering.

  18. 18.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    MSNBC reports actual breaking news: Trump has pardoned Manafor

    ETA: also Roger Stone, who had previously said he wouldn’t accept a pardon IIRC, and Charlie Kushner. A last fuck you to Chris Christie

  25. 25.

    Punchy

    This idea that election results can be “reversed” is just bullshit.  They’re official; theres no reversing.  They can be ignored, or perhaps usurped, but no legal way to reverse anything after the EC meets, if my social studies teacher was correct.  I wish the media would call it what it is: an attempted coup, not some “undoing of swing state electors blahblahblah”….

  30. 30.

    Ruckus

    @debbie:

    I really, really want to witness them getting their comeuppances.

    Every last damn one of them.

    That’s both the people and the comeuppances.

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    @Baud: I feel confident that both of them have committed additional crimes we don’t yet know about. Just a guess, mind you, but seems reasonable. Reconvict them.

  33. 33.

    David ??Merry Christmas?? Koch

    Good. NYC can now take Manafort into custody.   Welcome to Riker’s Island.

  34. 34.

    Mary G

    @Baud: That’s what I’ve been wondering. Don’t they have to testify now or is it limited or liable to be tied up in court forever?

  36. 36.

    TS (the original)

    @Brachiator:

    And where is Maggie Haberman? Is she taking notes about the final days of this mess?

    Indeed she is – and I hope the Biden administration send her packing – no contacts, no information.

    On House GOP conference call taking place right now, @GOPLeader said he spoke to POTUS and POTUS hasn’t committed to a veto of the stimulus bill yet. Still deciding.
    — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 23, 2020

  38. 38.

    Kent

    @Mary G: Yep, no taking the 5th.  And if they refuse they are subject to new obstruction of justice charges.  And if they lie they are subject to new perjury charges.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    On MSNBC, they said Trump’s polls were slipping among Republicans.  He’s still really popular, but he’s slowly losing ground.

  46. 46.

    geg6

    @Kent:

    Why wouldn’t he?  Think of the ratings for that!

    In all seriousness, I can see him doing it just for the attention.  Never saw anyone so needy for attention as he is.  If he ever showed a morsel of humanity, I’d pity him for the damage done to him to make him so pitifully needy.

  47. 47.

    Tony Jay

    It’s because of things like this that I settled on President Pettygrift as the go-to slur for Trump and his Administration.

    Everything with these people revolves around the money. Cleaning up funnels for dirty money and finding dirty ways to funnel clean money into the right pockets. It’s a bit pathological and a bit performative. They do it because that’s how their Boss wants it done and they do it openly because their Boss wouldn’t notice otherwise (because he’s thick as a curtain wall and just as defensive). That there’s a whole world outside the Pettygrift bubble that might be interested in enforcing actual laws upon them is beyond their grasp. Don’t you know who their Boss is?

    FFS, just pay maintenance like a grown-up would, you slimy dickhead.

  48. 48.

    Mary G

    You don't get here in a day & you don't get here alone. Trump could only reach the point of believing he could take such egregious actions that so flagrantly undermine the rule of law after 4 years of Congressional Rs enabling each step on this path. @senatemajldr owns this. https://t.co/qcv9FZ76no— Ronald Brownstein (@RonBrownstein) December 24, 2020

    Ron, you sweet summer child.

  50. 50.

    Mary G

    ?‍??‍? on the ???

    "This action underscores the urgent need to hold Mr. Manafort accountable for his crimes against the People of New York as alleged in our indictment, and we will continue to pursue our appellate remedies."— Spokesman for Manhattan D.A. Vance https://t.co/xXuTCX1yRC— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) December 24, 2020

  51. 51.

    Kent

    @WaterGirl: On the plus side, shutting down the government would put the brakes on all the last minute fuckery they are trying to do across the federal government, from opening up the arctic to oil leasing to finishing up as much wall as possible.

  54. 54.

    natem

    @Baud:

    Everyone cheering on supposed GOP thrown under the bus underestimate the extent this 11th hour chaos actually benefits McConnell as much as anyone

  55. 55.

    Mary G

    New SoCal fire in Fontana:

    #DuncanFire (#Fontana)Thread Update:40-50+ acres, critical rate of spread backed by strong winds. Imminent structure threat & threat to power lines. Potential for several hundred acres. Three helicopters, two large air tankers (LAT), and two S-2 tankers are currently assigned. pic.twitter.com/JPvCI5Jqqe— SoCal Air Operations (@SocalAirOps) December 23, 2020

    We really need rain, so bad.

  56. 56.

    moops

    With the pardons rolling out like mad it is likely clear to Trump now that he will not remain President.

  57. 57.

    moops

    this doesn’t shut down government.  The Pentagon has their appropriation already.  This is the new authorization.  I assume they keep running under the old authorization.  a military form of continuing resolution.

  60. 60.

    Keith P.

    @moops: I dunno….I have a bad feeling he’s thinking about starting a war with Iran to lead to enough chaos to where he can declare martial law (some shit like, there are already so many brown people here already, we need the military to determine who is Iranian or not)

  61. 61.

    TS (the original)

    @Kent:

    I sure don’t think he wouldn’t – insane & frothing at the mouth furious that he can’t overturn the election.

    How dare they vote for Biden – I’ll show them what happens when they don’t vote for me.

  62. 62.

    Roger Moore

    @Mary G:

    That’s what I’ve been wondering. Don’t they have to testify now or is it limited or liable to be tied up in court forever?

    I think they could claim they still face state prosecution and they need to be able to take the 5th to protect themselves against that.  It has the advantage that it’s quite possibly true.  This is the flip side of Trump being unable to pardon people for violating state laws.

  66. 66.

    Warblewarble

    EXTRADITE PRINCES MURDERING THUGS TO IRAQ,TO FACE JUSTICE. AS JUSTICE DOES NO LONGER EXIST IN AMERICA.

  69. 69.

    TS (the original)

    Pundit (MSNBC) comparing these pardons to a Clinton pardon which resulted in congressional investigation. NO comparison, Clintons get investigated for breathing, trump sycophants & trump – not so much.

  72. 72.

    trollhattan

    Can somebody on staff just grab the tranq rifle and dart the fucker already? This isn’t even newsdump Friday and he’s done more than enough.

  75. 75.

    Keith P.

    @Baud: I’m sure that’s the case, but it is pretty damn scary that he got *that* many people in Congress to sign onto this effort. I worry that if he had both houses of Congress, he’d have been more successful at strong-arming them into overturning the election.

  82. 82.

    Mary G

    Bill Barr must be feeling sentimental tonight. He hasn't seen this many corrupt pardons since he was Attorney General the first time— Daniel Larison (@DanielLarison) December 24, 2020

  83. 83.

    Mai Naem mobile

    @Chyron HR: the older boy does look like a Jared junior. I feel sorry for the kid because I am pretty sure daddy is going to end up in prison like grandpa was and possibly the other grandad will end up in the Big House as well. I wonder how many people can say both their grandads did time in prison.

  85. 85.

    Jinchi

    @Kent: Do we really think Trump is going to shut down the government on Christmas Eve?

    In 2018, he shut it down for 5 weeks starting on December 22nd.

    So, yeah. It seems exactly like something he’d do.

  86. 86.

    WaterGirl

    @JPL: Isn’t it?  That’s the only picture or cartoon of Trump that I have been able to look at without cringing.  It’s a very cute pup with the yellow blob on his head.  The red tie makes it, I think.

  89. 89.

    WaterGirl

    @Mary G: I hadn’t realized until last night’s PopeHat podcast that he, too vouched for Bill Barr when he was named AG.

    Preet, Chuck Rosenburg, PopeHat.  I would have expected all of them to be more discerning.

  90. 90.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl:

    Seems likely, and last days of Nixon come to mind–the difference being no adults are present to reel him in. “Bring me ALL the Adderall!”

  93. 93.

    cmorenc

    How can all the 63 million who voted for Trump in 2016, let alone the 11 million beyond that who voted for him in 2020, contemplate the last four years and decide: “I want four more years of that”.  I can see the hard-core 27% sticking with him; what’s in it for the other 20% (he got 46.9% of the vote in 2020, to Biden’s 51.3%).  It scares me that so many of my fellow countrypersons can be so glaringly stupid, piggishly selfish, racist, or willingly making deals with the devil, or various combinations of the foregoing factors.

  94. 94.

    WaterGirl

    With Christmas alone looming, I’m wondering if there are any marathons on TV that might be worth watching.  Does anyone know of any?  Or don’t they do that anymore on TV because people just binge Netflix?

  95. 95.

    Brachiator

    @Baud:

    On MSNBC, they said Trump’s polls were slipping among Republicans.  He’s still really popular, but he’s slowly losing ground.

    If this keeps up, by January 20, Trump’s approval might even be down to 27 percent.

  101. 101.

    Mike in NC

    @WaterGirl:  We’ve gone from the days when Fat Bastard would show up at the office at 11 AM or 12 noon and knock of “work” at 4 PM to watch FOX News, to where he’s toiling around the clock with his henchmen to try to steal the election. Some work ethic on display right there!

  103. 103.

    WaterGirl

    @satby: 12 seasons, holy cow!

    Yeah, something not too intense would be good.  For two weeks or so they were showing Death in Paradise on Ovation, and that’s about my speed right now.

    But now it’s not on for at least 2 weeks, and who knows after that. I should see if that is streaming anywhere.

  104. 104.

    debbie

    @Ian:

    Reading Twitter, it seems they didn’t know anyone was listening in on the call. Somehow, Kevin McCarthy figured it out and hung up the phone.

  105. 105.

    Amir Khalid

    Trump is giving out these pardons not to forgive the repentant, but to endorse and reward criminals who were in cahoots with him. I see the general pessimism about the chances of holding him to account for his flagrant abuse of the pardon power, and it astounds me.

  108. 108.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: Pardon power shouldn’t be absolute, not when you have been engaged in a criminal conspiracy with the people you are pardoning.

    edit: That wouldn’t keep him from pardoning the murdering Black Water people and the Navy seal.

  111. 111.

    Steeplejack

    Shnikeys. Just tuned to Rachel Maddow and saw that Pardons, Round 2, have been announced—including Jared Kushner’s father. Easing into the family.

  114. 114.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Baud:

    I was watching CNN and the law pundits/experts on there thought Trump should be prosecuted for obstruction of justice re: pardons. Because that’s what these pardons are: obstructions of justice. Investigations and prosecutions rely on being able to nail criminals so they’ll cooperate to get bigger fish. With Trump dangling these pardons, he undermined investigations into him and his associates

  116. 116.

    Amir Khalid

    @WaterGirl:

    At the very least there should be a law specifying a rigorous vetting process. That POTUS can, even theoretically, pardon anyone on a whim is an invitation to abuse.

  118. 118.

    Kent

    @WaterGirl:With Christmas alone looming, I’m wondering if there are any marathons on TV that might be worth watching.  Does anyone know of any?  Or don’t they do that anymore on TV because people just binge Netflix?

    You can watch a South Park marathon on Comedy Central.  And a “Storage Wars” marathon on FYI network according to my TV guide.  And  a “Forged in Fire” marathon on the History Channel.

    Or you can spring for Netflix or Prime.

  124. 124.

    Bill Arnold

    @Baud:

    Pardons are absolute.

    I do wonder how far he could push it. E.g. blanket pardons for all past crimes by all citizens who are have attended at least one of his rallies, or all members of the Republican Party.
    (Carter pardoned draft evaders (of the Vietnam War), though that wasn’t a blanket pardon.)

  126. 126.

    RSA

    @Amir Khalid: That was superb! And very funny. Thanks.

    It would have been interesting if she’d gotten into vowels as well. I think German has more pure vowel sounds, English more diphthongs, and some English vowels (short a, short i, maybe others) don’t have an exact German equivalent. On balance, though, I think German speakers can English better than the reverse when it comes to sounds.

  129. 129.

    Ruckus

    @Amir Khalid:

    A lot of our laws were made at a time when it appeared that most followed the law, at least to some extent. But the last 80-100 yrs of republican presidents have shown that even appearances are too much for them. They care about money, getting it – no matter the source or the price someone else has to pay, and they care about them not getting blamed when something goes magically wrong because of it. A large portion of the US public thinks that’s normal and must be OK because it’s been normal and going on for so long with no repercussions. First, it’s not how a government nor it’s leaders is supposed to act, even though it’s quite common. Second, how does a country go about fixing this, given that a large portion of it’s ruling/political class thinks that as long as their side does it it’s perfectly normal, and given that a large portion of the news providers are on the side of the grifters – start over? (That’s mostly a rhetorical question with no expected answer….) Our government runs a lot on the premise that the leaders will obey the law, which often they actually are, even if they appear to be breaking it massively. I think it comes from the basis of a lot of our law, which was a monarchy rather than a democracy.

  135. 135.

    sdhays

    I’m just going to say that I’m glad Dump isn’t waiting for the customary very, very last days in office to go on his pardon spree. And I’m glad that no one has successfully argued to him that dragging Loefler and Perdue across the finish line would be a great way for him to show that he still has juice. I think he resents that Purdue got more votes than he did and would have won his own race if not for Georgia’s weird run-off rules. It probably bothers him almost as much as losing.

    So while he hasn’t admitted it (yet?), I think he wants Perdue and Loeffler to lose. He wants to blame them for his own loss, arguing that they’re losers who drug him down. And I really hope he gets his wish.

  136. 136.

    Amir Khalid

    @RSA:

    Is just Christmas video, not for serious and not for comprehensive.

    Hochdeutsch, per my grammar textbook, has just three diphthong sounds, as in braun, Stein, and scheu/Häuse.

  138. 138.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    What the hell do they put in the coffee at the intercept?

    Ryan Grim @ryangrim 52m
    There aren’t many people I wouldn’t support a pardon for. If you’re getting pardoned, you’ve already been put through the system — a process itself that is designed to psychologically torture and dehumanize — and you started serving time. You’ve probably paid your debt.

  139. 139.

    Punchy

    @Amir Khalid: it sets up a hell of criminal feedback loop, by which it incentivizes partisans to cheat, cheat, and cheat somemore to win the election.  Dont get caught?  Great!  Get caught? Get pardon and walk away….great!  When its obvious a pardon will eliminate any and all criminal punishment, there simply will no longer be any more untainted elections.  RIP democracy.

  140. 140.

    Another Scott

    @Roger Moore: Yup.

    Things are never cut-and-dried when it comes to powerful people being held to account.  They would fight any “invitation” to appear.  They would fight any subpoena from a committee.  They would fight any court case ordering them to appear.  They would drag it out, appealing, appealing, hoping that Alito and Thomas would rule in their favor.

    There’s never one weird trick that will make people obey norms and traditions and laws if they think they can find a way around them.  Better laws won’t fix that.

    The only solution is to make sure that monsters don’t get power.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  141. 141.

    Another Scott

    @Amir Khalid: Excellent.

    My high school German teacher told us storied about going over there and teasing all her German friends by making them say all kinds of English words with “th” in them.  She made it sound hilarious.

    High school German teacher humor.  ;-)

    (I noticed that Einstein pronounced “method” as “metod”, so it’s not just “this” and “that” and the like that caused problems.)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  142. 142.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    with top Trump adviser Jason Miller saying in early November, “Jared has been more hardcore in fighting back on this than anybody”

    So Miller and the young and supple Jared as stabbing Trump in the back now ROFL.

    This is the reason why a coup will never happen because everyone drawn to Trump is just as big of griefter as Trump is and sees everyone else as the suckers.

  143. 143.

    Brachiator

    @Steeplejack:

    Just tuned to Rachel Maddow and saw that Pardons, Round 2, have been announced—including Jared Kushner’s father. Easing into the family

    I’ve been away from the Internets. Old Pa Kushner got a pardon, too. Wow.

  144. 144.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @cmorenc: How can all the 63 million who voted for Trump in 2016, let alone the 11 million beyond that who voted for him in 2020, contemplate the last four years and decide: “I want four more years of that”.

    You’re assuming these people are thinking of policy and other boring shit and not just voting because they think this is American Idol taken to 11 and Trump is their boi. I mean show me the difference between the Base’s behavior and a sports fans.

  145. 145.

    Yutsano

    @Another Scott: Oh man. I made the mistake of discussing dental fricatives with some of my Dutch friends. I had no idea how much it irritated them that they couldn’t figure out those two sounds and on top of that how common in English they are. But unless you speak Castllian, Galician, Icelandic, Albanian, or Greek, it’s not a common sound in your language.

  146. 146.

    Edmund Dantes

    @WaterGirl: it’s like they all forgot his involvement with the Iran contra pardons and his kicking off the original whitewater investigation on the way out the door of HW’s presidency.

  147. 147.

    J R in WV

    @Spanky:

    I’ll believe that Jared Kushner is growing into his role as a White House staffer when he stops playing the family card in order to avoid complying with his oath to uphold the Constitution.

    What oath? Show me a witness to any oath this feeble-minded, ethics-free, blank spot on the dial criminal ever took!!! You can’t because there isn’t one!

  148. 148.

    J R in WV

    @Kent:

    On the plus side, shutting down the government would put the brakes on all the last minute fuckery they are trying to do across the federal government, from opening up the arctic to oil leasing to finishing up as much wall as possible.

    Oh, really? Come on, Kent, you’ve been around government “shut downs” long enough to know that the top brass select exactly which portions of the government actually shut down. Air Traffic Controllers somehow NEVER have to shut down.

    I’m pretty sure all those criminals working hard to destroy the federal lands, the environmental protections, the financial regulations, those people will work straight through any so called shut down.

    Now, the justice department, those folks who might interfere with the Trumpian finale of Donald J Trump’s magical reign over the former United States of America, those folks will be laid off ASAP, moments after the “shut down” is invoked by Dear Leader Trump.

    We’re now moving towards a serious winter event here in the western edge of the Appalachian mountains… it’s 45 and raining now, and by midnight it will be 15 degrees out. And I need to stock up on milk and cookies, and dog kibble, and wine and beer, and some prescriptions. And lunch meats. Supposed to change from rain to snow about 4 this afternoon.

    I plan to be home around noon 30 or so.  With enough supplies for at least a couple of weeks. Gonna smoke that debit card! Ya’ll wish me luck.

  149. 149.

    J R in WV

    @WaterGirl:

    Fear + anger + hate + racism + resentment + misogyny + fuck you = how we got here.

    You left out greed, and Fuck You, I got mine! Wait, I see Fuck you, you just left off the I got Mine!

    We’re obviously following the same track here…

  150. 150.

    WaterGirl

    @WaterGirl:  @J R in WV: corrected!  I had considered adding the “i got mine” part but I was going for succinct, but you’re right, this is more clear.  How could i have forgotten greed?

    Fear + anger + greed + hate + racism + resentment + misogyny + fuck you, i got mine = how we got here.

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