Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

I was confident that someone would point it out and thought why not me.

“And when the Committee says to “report your income,” that could mean anything!

Impressively dumb. Congratulations.

“woke” is the new caravan.

A snarling mass of vitriolic jackals

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Consistently wrong since 2002

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

Wow, I can’t imagine what it was like to comment in morse code.

fuckem (in honor of the late great efgoldman)

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Teach a man to fish, and he’ll sit in a boat all day drinking beer.

I’m pretty sure there’s only one Jack Smith.

I was promised a recession.

T R E 4 5 O N

This blog will pay for itself.

Since when do we limit our critiques to things we could do better ourselves?

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

People are complicated. Love is not.

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  2. 2.

    Patricia Kayden

    I wonder how much fear Trump & his kids live in knowing the amount of legal and financial jeopardy he finds himself in 20 days from now will negate enforcement of all those NDA’s he made his WH staff sign? @realDonaldTrump— NoelCaslerComedy (@CaslerNoel) January 1, 2021

  4. 4.

    Punchy

    Mindblowing and surreal to see ball drop last night in near-empty Times Square.

    Perhaps related: anyone know if the SB is going to allow fans this year?

  5. 5.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Patricia Kayden:

    While I would not be surprised if they’re generally terrified of the legal trouble descending, I doubt the idea that NDAs will be invalidated has entered their thoughts.  Trump is insane, going through a nervous breakdown and flailing about spouting conspiracy theories and screaming at anyone who dares tell him the truth.  The boys are stupid yes-men.  Ivanka is a stupid yes-woman.  Kushner has some plan he’s sure is genius and will save him and Ivanka from any trouble, just like he solved the Palestinian peace problem.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Punchy:

    anyone know if the SB is going to allow fans this year?

    We are all allowed to be fans of the owl, for it is superb.

  8. 8.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    We got our turtle pittance at midnight.  Although it will come in handy as our 60+ year old bathtub is being replaced in 2 weeks. HNY, all. Adifuckingos to 2020.

  12. 12.

    p.a.

    I certainly will applaud actual hoosegow time, but long, time/wealth destroying court fights till poppa croaks and the spawn are broke will certainly be an acceptable second place event. (Almost typed “time/soul/wealth destroying…” then remembered of which I speak.)

  14. 14.

    PaulWartenberg

    @Punchy: there are plans to have a small turnout with accepted social distancing seating. I am not sure about the halftime or pregame shows they usually have: those might be remotely broadcast.

  15. 15.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    Breaking: Final Override Vote in Senate: 81-13. Trump is handed the first and only veto override of his presidency.

    — Roxana Tiron (@rtiron) January 1, 2021

  19. 19.

    zhena gogolia

    Sorry I can’t be there today — our local friends are meeting at 3:00. Normally it would be for tamales by our gourmet cook friend. Today it’s sad, cold Zoom. But better than nothing!

  28. 28.

    Yutsano

    @Frankensteinbeck: Remember the shell company law? That was in the NDAA. Forensic accounting is about to have a massive career shortage.

    EDIT: not to mention the whole Drumpf criminal enterprises are about to be ripped open. And foreign money just became much less attractive in the US. GOOD THING BREXIT HAPPENED EH RUSSIAN & CHINESE AUTOCRATS???

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    wanna see Rudi Giuliani dance to a Sinatra impersonator? Kimberly Guilfoyle and Fredo sing along with Vanilla Ice? The remnant of the Beach Boys who owns the name pissing off the other remnants? Want to waste two minutes of the young year like I just did?

    Daniel Uhlfelder@DWUhlfelderLaw 2h
    New Year’s Eve celebration at Mar-a-Lago during deadly pandemic

    Honestly I am kinda curious is the guy next to Fredo who seems to really want to be on camera is someone I should recognize as a political junkie. Looks a little like Sean Spicer?

  31. 31.

    Yutsano

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Honestly I am kinda curious is the guy next to Fredo who seems to really want to be on camera is someone I should recognize as a political junkie. Looks a little like Sean Spicer?

    Too skinny for Spicer, unless he lost a ton of weight in the last week. He does look familiar tho.

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Baud:

    Guests angled for selfies with Giuliani, who was wearing a blue velvet tuxedo jacket,

    but of course…

    Instead of their father, Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump mingled among the guests with their respective significant others, Kimberly Guilfoyle and Lara Trump. Tiffany Trump also attended, though Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner were not seen.

    Wow, it was truly the MAGAt D-list all the way. I wonder if the Kushners belong to the snooty Palm Beach club with all the people who refused to join MAL until 2017

  33. 33.

    Mike in NC

    Went grocery shopping earlier today. The older guy ahead of me at the cash register left his wallet lying right there on the counter and headed for the exit. Because my last name isn’t “Trump” I felt obliged to pick it up and return it to him, and he thanked me. If I had pocketed the thing he’d have been off to a really crappy new year.

  39. 39.

    Salty Sam

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The remnant of the Beach Boys who owns the name…

    Mike Love can eat every bag of salted dicks in the world, and I hope he chokes on them.   Brian Wilson has way too much class to even respond to Love’s dicktitude,  to to mention ALL the musical genius that made The Beach Boys.

  40. 40.

    Another Scott

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Isn’t it the “Daniel Uhlfelder” guy who posted it?  It seems to be him holding the phone.  Probably hoping for his 15 minutes of fame to help his grifting business (from his Twitter bio).

    Just a guess.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  41. 41.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    did this person attend meetings in the Oval Office? I have trouble keeping them all straight.

    Lin Wood @LLinWood  
    If Pence is arrested, @SecPompeo will save the election. Pence will be in jail awaiting trial for treason. He will face execution by firing squad. He is a coward & will sing like a bird & confess ALL.

    @Another Scott: I doubt it, Uhlfelder doesn’t seem to approve of the shindig– “deadly pandemic” and all

  44. 44.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Lin is especially nutty, but yeah, a chunk of the Trump Will Be Reelected Thanks To This One Weird Trick crowd had settled on something they thought Pence could do by the 23rd to prepare for picking the so-called ‘alternate Trump electors’ on the 6th.  Pence didn’t do it.  And he’s made further noises suggesting he’s not interested in the last couple of days.  This makes him a traitor in a very literal ‘helping usurp the legitimate government’ way to that branch of dead-enders.  They will all be pissed at him on the 6th when Pence does not save the day.  Like they’re furious with John Roberts now.

  45. 45.

    Almost Retired

    I hope that Trump was able to enjoy the Bidens projected on a giant-ass screen in Times Square last night, as he sat alone in the White House…While his abominable spawn partied without him at Tropical Berchtesgaden and his aging concubine locked him out of her bedroom so she could check and double–check her prenup.

  46. 46.

    Ken

    @Steeplejack (phone): Trump is handed the first and only veto override of his presidency.

    Anyone know offhand how many vetoes he’s made?  I’m mostly wondering if “one” equates to “one hundred percent”.

  47. 47.

    Miss Bianca

    @Salty Sam: I just watched The TAMI Show on DVD (thanks, whichever jackal brought that one to my attention!) and caught footage of The Beach Boys circa 1965. Pretty impressive, but not nearly as impressive as James Brown and Marvin Gaye. I can’t believe how twerpy The Rolling Stones looked trying to go on after JB and the Famous Flames. Mick was obviously trying to cop some of JB’s moves and vibe and ended up looking like a scarecrow having spasms. I felt embarrassed for him.

    @debbie: And there were go-go girls (and boys!) errrrywhere. Everything old is new again, I guess.

  48. 48.

    raven

    @Miss Bianca: Probably me, I had a boot copy for years that was pretty bad but the Beach Boys finally relented and they released it on blu-ray. Leslie Gore was way better than I’d remembered. The Stones were mortified that the had to follow JB. Terri Gahr is one of the Go Go Girls.

  55. 55.

    Salty Sam

    @Miss Bianca: how twerpy The Rolling Stones looked trying to go on after JB and the Famous Flames.

    The JB biopic “Get On Up” (Chadwick Bozeman!) had a great bit at the TAMI Show.  JB tore up the stage (Mick and the boys watching from the wings, mouths hanging open), and as he walked off stage, JB looks at the Stones and says, “Welcome to America! Good luck!”

    Jagger is reported to have said the decision to follow JB was the worst mistake of his early career.

  61. 61.

    Mary G

    That party is pathetic. I can see why the big orange baby fled back to the WH rather than be seen at it.

    Just finished Carl Hiaasian’s “Squeeze Me” and cannot recommend it  highly enough if you like his stuff. Laugh out loud skewering of Twitler and his Palm Beach fan club. The president is given the code name “Mastodon” and demands to go to the DC zoo and be photographed with them. The First Lady is sleeping with a Secret Service agent who is of Arab American heritage but has to use a pseudonym because it would never do to have someone named Youseff around Twitler. There is a group of obscenely rich ancient widows who stan the president and wanted to call themselves the “Potus Pussies” but are persuaded to use “Potussies” instead. The book starts with their leader disappearing from the grounds of a charity ball leaving her sequinned bag and half a tab of Ecstasy  by the pond. It’s hilarious.

    I have decided to buy a new phone that can handle Zoom so I can join you sometime. It sounds like a blast.

  64. 64.

    JoyceH

    @Yutsano:

    Remember the shell company law? That was in the NDAA. Forensic accounting is about to have a massive career shortage.

    EDIT: not to mention the whole Drumpf criminal enterprises are about to be ripped open. And foreign money just became much less attractive in the US. GOOD THING BREXIT HAPPENED EH RUSSIAN & CHINESE AUTOCRATS???

    Does anyone happen to know if this law will unmask current shell companies? If so, MAN!…

  65. 65.

    Miss Bianca

    @raven: Leslie Gore! I know, I’ve been thinking about copping some of her stuff for whenever we get to go out and play music again sometime. I love how she was dressed like some midtown secretary and then just opened up and let it all hang out. It was awesome.

  67. 67.

    dmsilev

    @opiejeanne: You can either thank or blame, as you please, Bernie Sanders for the timing. By objecting to the expedited timetable a few days ago, he forced the vote to be delayed until today at the earliest. And since the Congressional session ends on Sunday, it was pretty much today or tomorrow for the vote.

  68. 68.

    Rob

    Happy new year everyone! It was nice to see some of you for a few minutes on last night’s Zoom

  69. 69.

    Miss Bianca

    @Mary G: I read that one earlier this year – no, wait, late last year. I liked it.

    Yeah, I was thinking of joining the Zoom but got all hung up on trying to change my name and got cold feet. And now it’s almost over, I imagine. One of these times, perhaps!

  72. 72.

    Miss Bianca

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: Huh, wonder how far behind the paper checks will be. One of these days I may switch to electronic banking as far as me and the federal government is concerned, but today…is not that day.

  79. 79.

    trollhattan

    Regardless whether you went to bed at eight or stayed up polishing the cat, you had a better New Years Eve than these mooks.

    “Guests who paid four-figures for tickets to President Trump’s annual New Year’s Eve party were left to party with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, his two adult sons and various figures from the conservative media — none of whom wore masks — after the President made a last-minute decision to ditch the event and return to Washington,” CNN reports.

    “Guests angled for selfies with Giuliani, who was wearing a blue velvet tuxedo jacket, and Fox News host Judge Jeanine Pirro, along with personalities from the right-wing television network OANN.”

  82. 82.

    trollhattan

    @JoyceH:

    New York gave the world Trump and if New York can park Trump in prison they will have leveled the account considerably. Bonus points for each family member convicted.

  83. 83.

    Cameron

    @trollhattan: I would mos def pay four figures for a selfie with Rudy Giuliani (avec ou sans pimp jacket).  Then I would commit suicide in the most public, nasty manner I could think of.

  84. 84.

    Miss Bianca

    @trollhattan: Who *are* all these idiots, and even more to the point, why are there so many idiots who all, apparently, have so much more money than I do?

  92. 92.

    Miss Bianca

    @zhena gogolia: Cute! Although a little weird to hear a guy sing that song with such gusto. Kind of like hearing a guy singing “I Will Survive”.

    I didn’t realize till I watched that show and heard her do the segue into it that “Judy’s Turn to Cry” was the companion piece to “It’s My Party”.

  93. 93.

    Baud

    Pelosi announces proposed rules package for incoming Congress
    Zack Budryk01/01/21 02:32 PM EST
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Rules Committee Chairman Jim McGovern (D-Mass.) announced their proposed rules for the 117th Congress Friday.
    The Democratic rules package includes the revocation of floor privileges for former members of Congress convicted of crimes connected to their service or election.
    It would also make it a violation of the code of conduct for members, officers or employees of Congress to identify a whistleblower.
    During impeachment proceedings against President Trump last year, both Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) named the man they believed to be the intelligence community whistleblower whose report prompted the impeachment inquiry.
    The rules package would also ban members from knowingly disseminating manipulated images or “deepfake” videos.
    The package would also establish a Select Committee on Economic Disparity and Fairness in Growth and require committees to incorporate plans for how their work in the session ahead would address disparities. And it would require committees to post any amendments considered at mark-up online within 48 hours of consideration, and increase the availability of the machine-readable versions of legislative documents.

  95. 95.

    Sure Lurkalot

    When the first stimulus checks went out I got a direct deposit the first day, but nada so far.  Hope I’m not too far down on the list…I’ve already given the money to charity.  There’s a righteous place for philanthropy but the number of people in this rich ass country who have to rely on it for basics like food and shelter (especially during a pandemic) is a fucking disgrace.

  97. 97.

    TS (the original)

    @Baud:

    But the Washington Post is very concerned about the lack of an Asian American or Pacific Islander Cabinet secretary.

    There never seemed to be all these worries about the lack of anyone other than incompetent white men in the trump cabinet

  98. 98.

    Geminid

    @JoyceH: According to a site called Lexology, the Corporate Transparency Act requires existing corporations covered by the Act to report their true ownership within two years. New companies will have to report at formation.  The reports made to the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Reporting Network, often called FinCen, will be available to federal, state, and Tribal law enforcement agencies, regulators, and banks, but not the public.                              The writer of a December 26 article in Fortune Magazine called this the most sweeping anti-corruption legislation the country has seen in decades.

  100. 100.

    Salty Sam

    @raven: oh, I don’t know.  They did all right later, and I consider them Rock Gods, but JB?   Oh man, another level entirely…

    I used to watch “Soul Train”  (where I learned my best dance moves!), and I still remember the week JB was the only musical guest.  Blew me out of the water!

  103. 103.

    raven

    @Salty Sam:

    I’m well aware of the talent of the King of Soul

    Dooley’s Junkyard Dawgs!

     

    The Stones took in around $11.1 million per show in North America, despite the smaller US and Canadian attendance figures, averaging 49,041 tickets per night.

    Here’s something else incredible: Since Billboard started keeping track, The Stones have sold 27.2 million tickets over a reported 679 concerts, earning $2.386 billion..with a B!

     

     

    At the time of his death, James Brown had a net worth of $100 million, according to

  104. 104.

    Miss Bianca

    @zhena gogolia: Man, that was something. I don’t think I’d ever heard that song before.

    I kept looking at her while she was singing and thinking of Amy Winehouse. Seems like there might have been some Lesley Gore influence there!

  105. 105.

    debbie

    @Miss Bianca:

    Leslie Gore is my one brush with a famous person. We got our manis and pedis done at the same place. She was friendly, chatty, and very witty.

  114. 114.

    zhena gogolia

    I’m a very suspicious person. Last year I wished everybody a happy new year and look what happened. So this year, from the bottom of my heart, fuck you.— Albert Brooks (@AlbertBrooks) December 31, 2020

  119. 119.

    Michael Cain

    Our stimulus payment showed up by direct deposit as a “pending transaction” yesterday.  This AM I got e-mail from the bank telling me that Treasury had told them the actual funds wouldn’t be available until Jan 4 or later.

  124. 124.

    dmsilev

    @zhena gogolia: That’s a lot of stupid, more than is generally seen in daily experience. Might I suggest we more commonly use the milli-Gohmert, much as the milli-Helen is the amount of beauty needed to launch a single ship.

  126. 126.

    debbie

    @JPL:

    Heh, I just finished off a bowl of collard greens with bacon and apple cider vinegar. And I’m glad I did!

  130. 130.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: What does this mean?

    The Democratic rules package includes the revocation of floor privileges for former members of Congress convicted of crimes connected to their service or election.

  131. 131.

    catclub

    @JoyceH: Does anyone happen to know if this law will unmask current shell companies? If so, MAN!…

     

    Short answer. I don’t know. But given that charters of corporations have to be renewed, it could easily be a requirement for renewal.

  133. 133.

    raven

    @JPL: We eat em whenever they are growing in the garden. We also don’t boil the shit out of em like they are apt to do down here. Sautéed in olive oil with garlic is great.

  135. 135.

    John Revolta

    @zhena gogolia: I don’t suppose it hurts anything now to say that a friend of mine used to sell Leslie Gore her weed back in the ’80s. I went over to her place a couple of times and as Debbie says, she was very friendly and had a great sense of humor about herself.

  136. 136.

    raven

    Beginning in 2004, Gore hosted the PBS television series In the Life, which focused on LGBT issues.[21] In a 2005 interview with After Ellen, she stated she was a lesbian and had been in a relationship with luxury jewelry designer Lois Sasson since 1982.[21] She had known about her same-sex attraction from the time she was 20 and stated that although the music business was “totally homophobic”, she never felt she had to pretend she was straight. “I just kind of lived my life naturally and did what I wanted to do,” she said. “I didn’t avoid anything, I didn’t put it in anybody’s face.”[2]

    Gore had been working on a memoir and a Broadway show based on her life[22] when she died of lung cancer on February 16, 2015, at the NYU Langone Medical Center in Manhattan, New York City, at the age of 68.[23][24] At the time of her death, Gore and her partner, Lois Sasson, had been together for 33 years.[25]

    Her New York Times obituary stated, “with songs like ‘It’s My Party,’ ‘Judy’s Turn to Cry’, and the indelibly defiant 1964 single ‘You Don’t Own Me’ — all recorded before she was 18 — Gore made herself the voice of teenaged girls aggrieved by fickle boyfriends, moving quickly from tearful self-pity to fierce self-assertion.

  137. 137.

    catclub

    @dmsilev: much as the milli-Helen is the amount of beauty needed to launch a single ship.

     

    A picture is worth a thousand words. I think they said of Helen’s it was the  face that launched 10 thousand ships. hence the invention of the decimil system.

  138. 138.

    J R in WV

    I’m sorry I didn’t make it… there was a ball game, and orthwestern was ahead, then Auburn scored and got close, then Northwestern put it away. Great football. My RWNJ sister-in-law is an Auburn grad, so enjoyed watching this game.

    400th win for their coach, who was on camera getting rid of his electronics, his wallet, then getting the Gatoraide  drench. He welcomed it right in his face…

    By then the zoom meetup was nearly over. Next time.

    Jan. 6th?

    Surely Jan. 20th!

    The Real NEW YEAR!!!

  143. 143.

    Barbara

    @Salty Sam:  James Brown was messianic in his performances. He was criticized for being over the top in the Blues Brothers but a friend of mine from South Carolina (where I think JB was from originally) assured me that his performance accurately portrayed a lot of church services in African American congregations that he had visited.

  146. 146.

    geg6

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    OMG, could there BE any place more tacky, more awful and more full of olds and the middle aged who wouldn’t know what hip is than that?  Seriously?  Going apeshit over Mike Love and Vanilla Ice?  That’s worse than even Kid Rick and Ted Nugent?

  147. 147.

    zhena gogolia

    @geg6:

    I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch that.

    ETA: Vanilla Ice wasn’t cool even when he first came on the scene.

  148. 148.

    Steve in the ATL

    @raven: hell yes!  Wow what a game. Finished a bottle of Spottswood concurrently with the Hot Pod kick. Drinking Sequoia Grove now and watching Notre Dame lose.  Throw in the the Florida and Auburn losses (to my hometown team) and it’s a great day!

  152. 152.

    burnspbesq

    @Geminid:

    FinCen struggles to carry out its responsibilities under the Bank Secrecy Act because it’s under-resourced. It’s going to need to grow a lot.

  153. 153.

    J R in WV

    I don’t have cable, so ABC and Fox sports are my only shots at football on broadcast. Loved watching Northwestern  administer CPR to Auburn.

    My dad took the family to a WVU game at the Meadowlands, IIRC Syracuse but could have been Rutgers, long ago now.

    My RWNJ sister-in-law brought a tiny TV and put her coat over her head to watch an Auburn game sitting in a seat that probably cost a couple of hundred dollars. Never thanked dad for the treat, either. He also took the whole family out to dinner in Manhattan, etc, etc. Not the bonding experience he had hoped for… She was a golddigger for sure, from just east of Atlanta and La Grange GA.

    Northwestern really ran a great game plan… nothing Auburn could do to stop them today. Tomorrow I intend to watch Ol’ Miss get a stomp down… one can always hope. It is a strange season, so you never know.

  156. 156.

    JPL

    The current president is tweeting crazy stuff.   Apparently the GA runoff elections are illegal or something.

  157. 157.

    geg6

    Got the pork roasting in sauerkraut (applesauce, bacon, thyme, ground mustard and salt and pepper to jazz it up).  Will oven roast some baby potatoes and warm cinnamon applesauce for sides.  Have most of a bottle of champagne left from last night, so that’s our beverage.  My house smells heavenly and just the way a house in Western PA should smell on New Year’s Day.  Happy New Year to all the jackals and sorry to have missed the Zooms.??

  159. 159.

    There are those who call me...tim... (Still posh)

    @Old Dan and Little Ann: yeah, our refunds too (last year’s $9.93 Fed.) Thing is, I feel not unlike a dick taking it, as I have not missed work because frontline hero essential yada yada…of course the wife can’t work because spinal reasons, so whatever. Everything helps. Wonder if anyone ever proposed repeating the original $1200 per as a sort of compromise. But it became this big political battle of 600! vs. 2000! O well.

  161. 161.

    J R in WV

    We’ve not lost money, retired, but donated our  federal payments to food bank, shelter, Salvation Army, etc.

    Wife was at the scene of many disasters as a reporter, floods, explosions, collapse of building project, prison riots… says the Salvation Army was the best at disaster relief, good food, hot coffee, no charge at all, no prayer requirements.

    So we have always supported their disaster relief fund.

  162. 162.

    TS (the original)

    @JPL:

    All I can think of – imagine the media reaction if Hillary had acted this way in 2016.

    Browsing the internet in relation to sedition

    In one of the first tests of freedom of speech, the House passed the Sedition Act, permitting the deportation, fine, or imprisonment of anyone deemed a threat or publishing “false, scandalous, or malicious writing” against the government of the United States. …

    Words that inspire a revolution that overthrows the government are an example of sedition. Insurrection; rebellion. An activity or communication aimed at overthrowing governmental authority.

  163. 163.

    WaterGirl

    @Miss Bianca: Another option is that the host can change the name that appears for you, so if you get there right at the start, almost no one will be there and your name could be changed right away.

  165. 165.

    Geminid

    @burnspbesq: properly resourcing regulators is not a “sexy” issue but it really needs to be done. Another example is the IRS’s group that audits the 45Q tax credit for carbon capture. This is an important program that will grow a lot in coming years, but right now enforcement is virtually an honor system.

  168. 168.

    zhena gogolia

    @Miss Bianca:

    I’m a complete tech ignoramus. But when you’re in Zoom, if you look at the upper right corner of your own little box, there are three dots. If you click on the three dots, you’ll get a dropdown menu that includes “Rename.” Click on that and you can change your name. It will only stay that way for the meeting you’re in.

  170. 170.

    2liberal

    @raven:  The Stones took in around $11.1 million per show in North America, despite the smaller US and Canadian attendance figures, averaging 49,041 tickets per night.

     

    Thats $224 per ticket. I don’t think so. I went to see them in 1972 in Boston Garden (Jagger was out on bail in think) and I wasn’t paying any $224.  More like $15 if memory serves.

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