Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Come on, man.

The party of Reagan has become the party of Putin.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

When your entire life is steeped in white supremacy, equality feels like discrimination.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

We are aware of all internet traditions.

Rupert, come get your orange boy, you petrified old dinosaur turd.

American history and black history cannot be separated.

Democracy cannot function without a free press.

Do we throw up our hands or do we roll up our sleeves? (hint, door #2)

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

The desire to stay informed is directly at odds with the need to not be constantly enraged.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

We will not go back.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Fundamental belief of white supremacy: white people are presumed innocent, minorities are presumed guilty.

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  4. 4.

    germy

    Looks like Trump’s BS-artist attorneys may have crossed the line from BS to something much more serious. https://t.co/Mh5uu1Dkj2

    — Sheldon Whitehouse (@SenWhitehouse) February 13, 2021

    One way to clear it up? Suspend trial to depose McCarthy and Tuberville under oath and get facts. Ask Secret Service to produce for review comms back to White House re VP Pence safety during siege. What did Trump know, and when did he know it?

    — Sheldon Whitehouse (@SenWhitehouse) February 13, 2021

  7. 7.

    debbie

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Very sweet. The kid always makes the wrong, fatal choice (sitting on a low couch in this video, laying down on the floor in another one I’ve seen). It’s almost like they invite being overwhelmed!

  8. 8.

    debbie

    It really is appalling how the GQP members, even when their lives have been threatened, still stand behind Trump. Power means that much to them.

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    Currently included free only with Epix but due to a fortuitous glitch I was able to sample about half of the single season sans subscribing, Perpetual Grace, LTD.. Part Twin Peaks-y, part Fargo-y, part kaleidoscope. Curiously compelling. Never cottoned much to Ben Kingsley, however being able to rely on freely using the F word apparently has removed the haughty “Pay attention, I’m acting over here!” chip on the shoulder vibe I usually sense when watching him.

  14. 14.

    germy

    When your client is accused of inciting an angry mob to engage in a deadly attack on the Capitol and disrupt democracy, making an angry, nasty, disrespectful presentation in the well of the Senate is not good lawyering.

    — Ted Boutrous (@BoutrousTed) February 12, 2021

  15. 15.

    J R in WV

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
    Pretty swell. I remember being about that age, and my grandmother next door had a Great Dane named Jerry who was pretty affectionate. I was all over that dog, who put up with me until he couldn’t any more, and stood up so that I couldn’t reach his nose or ears or eyes any more. I rode him like a pony when I was really little. He was a sweet boy.​

    ETA: So now as an old guy, Wife and I have 3 dogs, and the two younger dogs, who are atheletic 45-50 pounders will slither into our bed in the wee hours and snuggle between us. So sweet to have affectionate puppers.

  16. 16.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    My NextDoor experience resulted in a three day suspension barely 24 hours in. It was either asking the local Republican organizer if they were planning another insurrection at their Saturday breakfast meeting or telling a mask denier how exciting it was to get medical guidance from a random stranger on the internet and asking him what his credentials were and suggesting Youtube School of Medicine.

    Or maybe it was a tie.

  19. 19.

    MattF

    And they all understand that Trump’s happy place is where he can threaten and hurt people at will.

  23. 23.

    SFAW

    @Baud:

    I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if I ever tried to have some of you killed.

    Haven’t you already tried? Or was I misunderstanding when someone said “Yer killin’ it, Baud”?

  28. 28.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: I try to keep it light and entertaining but when they are policing “tone”, well most of that is in the ear of whoever is doing the policing. More distressing is the new focus of social media outlets to police tone instead of truth.

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @J R in WV: When my boys were young we had a Lab/white Shepard mix. They endlessly “abused” him without mercy and he tolerated/loved every second of it. He never got tired of their shenanigans. One game they played was to bury him under every pillow, cushion, and blanket in the living room, then circle him calling out “Where’s Willie? Where’s Willie??” and then jump on him screaming, “There he is!!!” He’d stick his head up from out of the pile and look around to make sure they were OK and then lay it back down.

  31. 31.

    germy

    Love to think that when we go to sleep, cats are using human-filters in their work zoom meetings

    — Jill Twiss (@jilltwiss) February 11, 2021

    “Mr. Whiskers I cannot focus on this case when you have that silly shaven face and side-ears!”

    — Jill Twiss (@jilltwiss) February 11, 2021

  34. 34.

    mali muso

    Woke up this morning after a pretty scary nightmare in which I was (inexplicably) on live TV having some kind of a back and forth confrontation with T**** (sort of like at a town hall thing) and then realized after the initial rush of having done a good job standing up for the truth against his gaslighting that my face and name were now known to all of his evil flying monkeys.  And feeling totally panicked for my family.  Ugh.  My subconscious is clearly still not over the PTSD from all of this.

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    @NotMax:

    Never cottoned much to Ben Kingsley,

    That’s Sir Ben Kingsley, peasant.

    [NB: In case it wasn’t clear: his persistent demand that the peons address him that way is a little off-putting.]

  42. 42.

    zhena gogolia

    @debbie:

    I am virtually unable to participate in church now that it’s all Zoom. You’re not allowed to fact-check, so people can go on about how you have to respect the opinions of people who aren’t so “passionate” about getting the vaccine as some of us seem to be.

  43. 43.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @OzarkHillbilly: I’m getting pretty good at these suspensions. One of the things I would do toward the end on FB is find a comment on a public post that was way over the top, name-calling, insult, harassment, whatever, and report it as a violation of Facebook community standards. I’d wait a couple days and get the response back from FB telling me it didn’t violate their standards and I could block the person if I wanted to but otherwise nothing would be done. Sometimes they’d pepper their response with flowery speech like, “I know this can be frustrating..”

    Then I’d go comment on a public post with that exact same comment I had reported and been told didn’t violate Facebook community standards and within one or two minutes, be suspended for violating Facebook community standards.

  45. 45.

    SFAW

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    I try to keep it light and entertaining but when they are policing “tone”, well most of that is in the ear of whoever is doing the policing. More distressing is the new focus of social media outlets to police tone instead of truth.

    Not sure I like the tone of that comment, pal.

  46. 46.

    mali muso

    @Immanentize: Both my parents are home with Covid (although everyone is stable and seems to be on the slow mend) so yeah…maybe a source of extra anxiety.  Thanks for asking. :)

  47. 47.

    zhena gogolia

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    The most enraging thing any “customer [non-]service” person can say to me is “I know how frustrating this must be for you.” That just sends me over the edge. I don’t care what you do or don’t know about my feelings, just do something to help me!

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    Rudely shocked awake from a nice and much needed nap by if not the mother of then the great-aunt of all leg cramps. Ninety minutes and two aspirin later and now it is down to a manageable and still lessening throb.

    Attribute it to packing too much into too short a time period yesterday, a day when both knees were in major rebellion (often but not always a sign of major weather change coming in about 36 – 48 hours).

  53. 53.

    SFAW

    @Betty Cracker:

    There are few joys to equal being swarmed by puppies.

    I was about to say “What about the Murderer-in-Chief being convicted by the Senate, and later by a criminal jury whereupon he gets 20 years in Rikers?” But then I realized that would be satisfaction, not joy.

  54. 54.

    Ken

    @Just Some Fuckhead: That sure sounds like it could be the basis of a lawsuit, but there’s probably something in the terms of service that forbids users from suing them.

    I am reminded of the joke in Good Omens where Crowley, after reading a software license, forwards it to the demons who write contracts for human souls with the memo “Learn, guys….”

  55. 55.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @NotMax:

    “Pay attention, I’m acting over here!”

    That’s Meryl Streep for me. Sorry, everybody.

    If you want down and dirty Kingsley, try Sexy Beast.

  57. 57.

    MagdaInBlack

    @zhena gogolia: Unfortunately, it’s part of the “script” they/we are told to use. I hate it and don’t use it. Yes, my big evil corp even has one for office managers. I ignore it.* =-)

    Eta: *Probably why my customers like me.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Are you OK? That’s an extremely un-blech-y comment, I’m worried that you might not be feeling OK.

    But thanks for that one, the toddler’s squeals are wonderful.

  59. 59.

    zhena gogolia

    @debbie:

    I just can’t believe she thinks anyone is “passionate” about getting a shot in their arm! It’s science and trying not to die, not a difference of opinion (in my opinion).

  60. 60.

    germy

    I bought some cat litter.  I was in a rush and didn’t read the label.

    When I got it home, I see it’s one of those heavily perfumed litters.  My cat’s using it, but she smells like fabric softener.  I started worrying, this can’t be safe… her licking it off her paws.

    I check online and this was the first thing I saw:

    http://foxvalleycatclinic.blogspot.com/2016/04/potential-danger-in-new-cat-litter.html

    Two weeks ago  I saw a patient named Punkin, a little orange girl that is very sweet.  Punkin  suddenly developed a red, inflamed, itchy face and flaming red ear, and the owner was very concerned.    Poor Punkin was very uncomfortable, as you can imagine.  But what I found surprising was how the cat smelled!   Febrezey!!  I asked Punkin’s owner to smell her cat.  She agreed, but she told me she does not use Febreze in her house.  Hmm….  But, she did try a new cat litter recently. Hmmm…. Doing some detective work at home, she realized her Tidy Cat was now laced with Febreze.  The smell from the cat litter was so strong, it was sticking to the cats coat.  And Punkin was breathing this in 24/7.  And developing allergic facial itchiness and discomfort.  Within 24 hours of bathing Punkin and removing the offensive Tidy Cat, Punkin was back to normal.

    I don’t feel comfortable with my cat ingesting this stuff, even if the ASPCA says it’s safe.  I think I’ll use it outside, the next time my sidewalk ices up.

  61. 61.

    zhena gogolia

    @MagdaInBlack:

    Oh, I’m well aware it’s scripted.

    If I were a sociologist, I’d write a study of how corporations create this world in which the customer never gets to talk to anyone who has any real power to help them. So you are faced with just shutting up and going away, or screaming in helpless rage at someone you know is not to blame for your plight and can only repeat the words somebody has written for them, which only increases your rage, but you have no one to vent it on except the poor innocent employee, and on and on . . . I’m old enough to know it wasn’t always this way. Companies stood behind their products/services and would let you speak to someone who could help you.

  63. 63.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Ken: I actually sent them a long missive showing them my work about the two different standards. They didn’t reply.

    I surmised that there’s a list one gets on when FB does uphold a violation of their community standards and thereafter your posts and comments are automatically reviewed and in a less tolerable light as a repeat offender.

  64. 64.

    zhena gogolia

    @NotMax:

    We are re-watching Downton Abbey (into season 4 now), and are marveling at the unobtrusive acting skill of everyone in the cast, down to the last under-gardener. Streep and Kingsley could learn a thing or two from Phyllis Logan and Sophie McShera.

    ETA: and don’t get me started on Maggie Smith and Penelope Wilton! Geniuses!

  65. 65.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    @Just Some Fuckhead:

    Well played, you! Bringing a dash of paprika to the bland “I need a plumber and I also saw a sketchy black person” proceedings.

    I saw you guys talking about NextDoor yesterday and wanted to ask: is there a way to check out your “neighborhood” before formally signing up?

  66. 66.

    SiubhanDuinne

    That golden bull in the top video is pretty impressive. Wonder whether Amir has been to see it yet.

  67. 67.

    MagdaInBlack

    @zhena gogolia: That should also include the endless voice prompts that are replacing actual humans on the other end. Those, I rage at.

    True customer service is non-existent once the big money gets involved. I remember when it was different too.

  71. 71.

    JMG

    So some Democratic Senators have said they won’t vote to allow witnesses. It doesn’t matter how hard we work for them, or what is clear we wish from them, they will always be weaklings.

  74. 74.

    germy

    @zhena gogolia:
    WASHINGTON – Democratic senators said Thursday there was no need for the Senate to call witnesses at former President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial, hinting at a possible early end to the trial as Trump’s team prepares to begin its opening arguments Friday.
    Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said the Senate had heard from enough people through “interviews and video presentation” played during three days of trial.
    “I feel like we’ve heard from enough witnesses,” she said.
    Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said Trump could come and “give his explanation of the day,” but “otherwise, it feels like to me we’re done.”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/11/trump-impeachment-trial-democratic-senators-say-no-need-witnesses/6728449002/

    Sheldon Whitehouse disagrees, though.

    One way to clear it up? Suspend trial to depose McCarthy and Tuberville under oath and get facts. Ask Secret Service to produce for review comms back to White House re VP Pence safety during siege. What did Trump know, and when did he know it?— Sheldon Whitehouse (@SenWhitehouse) February 13, 2021

  76. 76.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Steeplejack (phone): I don’t think so. But you can eliminate neighborhoods you don’t like. By default you get your neighborhood and all the neighborhoods around your neighborhood in a maybe 10 mile radius? You can go opt out of neighborhoods in the settings.

    I’m probably the last person you should be asking. I was only on the mobile app for 24 hours before my fresh mouth got me in trouble.

  81. 81.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @MagdaInBlack: The ones that enrage me are the ones that make you say words or phrases instead of pushing buttons and then can’t understand what you are saying. And then when they have the automated voice make typing sounds and pretend to be looking up something, I just lose it and unleash on the 0 key.

  85. 85.

    Rob

    I’m on the edge of DC and the predicted freezing rain started maybe an hour ago. A half-hour ago our stairs and sidewalk were already getting icy. Now our car windshields are covered with a thin glaze of ice. So much for doing anything today.

    We should get less than 1/10 of an inch of ice today. Sleet and even a bit of snow is predicted today. It will all be over some time after midnight. Fun stuff.

  90. 90.

    Nelle

    I just realized that Marjorie Taylor Green has been pushed off the news since Tuesday.  Small blessings?

  91. 91.

    Soprano2

    @NotMax: Leg cramps suck, I’m sorry. I’m going to tell you the same thing I told my stepson in Paia – if you came here right now I think it would kill you. Our highest forecast temp until Friday is 19 degrees. The lowest is -7. We might get 12″ of snow,  too. This is such a great week to have Monday off! At least I won’t have to hear people complaining next summer that it never got cold enough to kill off the bugs.

  93. 93.

    jackmac

    The spouse and I received our second COVID-19 vaccinations on Friday. No odd reactions (other than a soreness from the needle prick). We’re relieved to finally be ahead of this scourge but will continue safe practices (double-masking, social distancing) until the pandemic is well into the rear view mirror. Also, Democrats could have easily added a second impeachment charge over how Trump bumblefucked the national response and the ensuing deaths, illnesses and economic calamities that resulted.

  95. 95.

    zhena gogolia

    @Raven:

    Luckily we’re past that particular plot twist!

    I’m actually enjoying the post-Matthew episodes much more this time.

  96. 96.

    NotMax

    @Soprano2

    Two years spent in Minnesota. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt down vest. January of one of those years the high for the entire month was 0.

    :)

  97. 97.

    jackmac

    The spouse and I received our second COVID-19 vaccinations on Friday. No odd reactions (other than a soreness from the needle prick). We’re relieved to finally be ahead of this scourge but will continue safe practices (double-masking, social distancing) until the pandemic is well into the rear view mirror. Also, Democrats could have easily added a second impeachment charge over how Trump bumblefucked the national response and the ensuing deaths, illnesses and economic calamities.

  98. 98.

    Betty Cracker

    We’ve got thunderstorms for the next several days, but it’s not cold, so no complaints. We need the rain.

  100. 100.

    Soprano2

    @NotMax: You couldn’t pay me enough money to live in Minnesota. How long ago was that? My stepson had been on Maui for 18 years,  and in California before that.

  103. 103.

    Geminid

    The downside of calling prosecution witnesses is that the defense will get to call theirs. I think the Senate “jurors” already comprehend the core facts of what McCarthy and Pence would say. These and other witnesses might provide more clarity for the the public audience. But the defense will deploy a squid strategy, expelling as much rhetorical ink as possible to obscure and deflect, and will use procedural fights over who can be compelled to testify to suck up time and attention.

  105. 105.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Soprano2: It’s my fault. Just a week or 2 ago I was complaining about how mild it was. The weather gods heard me and said, “Oh. You want some winter? Here, have some of this.”

  109. 109.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Raskin started right with the McCarthy Trump phone call on 1/6. Saying they want to subpoena McCarthy.

  110. 110.

    Soprano2

    @OzarkHillbilly: I thought I caused it by commenting a couple of weeks ago that I wasn’t going to have to get out my down coat at all this winter. Good to know I wasn’t the only one who jinxed it.

  112. 112.

    citizen dave

    @jackmac: “Also, Democrats could have easily added a second impeachment charge over how Trump bumblefucked the national response and the ensuing deaths, illnesses and economic calamities.”

    Agree.  Plus the Georgia phone call–clear evidence of at least one major crime.  I guess state and federal election law crimes.

    I know it’s been said many times here but it does seem like this impeachment was done because it was the right thing to do; and for some kind of closure and historical record.  One thing that’s bothered me is framing on mainstream networks (no cable) that the “Democrats need to get 17 more votes” etc.  The Democrats don’t need anything.  The evidence is clear, the other party members can make their choice.  The Democrats will be on the right side of history

    I kind of like the suspension idea to create a purgatory period, while a 1/6 commission digs into more fact-finding.

  114. 114.

    catclub

    @jackmac: Also, Democrats could have easily added a second impeachment charge over how Trump bumblefucked the national response and the ensuing deaths, illnesses and economic calamities.

     

    The Republicans would claim that case came too LATE, it should have been filed in May. That catch 22 is some catch.

  115. 115.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @jackmac: Also, Democrats could have easily added a second impeachment charge over how Trump bumblefucked the national response and the ensuing deaths, illnesses and economic calamities.

    1) Long accepted principle that you can’t impeach for “maladministration”
    2) define “easily”

  118. 118.

    SFAW

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Wonder whether Amir has been to see it yet.

    Probably not. Animal Control had to tranq it after its rampage, and then relocated it to Nepal or somewhere else.

  121. 121.

    Kathleen

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I scream at “The Voice”. I wrote a piece for my Writers’ Group about The Voice and incorporated in the end of my play where Lucifer is trying to reach his boss Beast Bot 666. I imagine The Voices live on a server farm where the mock us on their smoke breaks.

  122. 122.

    Kathleen

    @Rob: Cincy is supposed to get 9 inches of snow between Monday and Tuesday. Today my focus is on trolling for treats and meal food. Not leaving the garage after I park the car today. And I realize the BJ northern Ohio contingent is wondering why it’s such a big deal but they are much heartier than I.

  124. 124.

    JAFD

    @zhena gogolia: Which is why, when I have gripe with a business, I write letter, print out, send to CEO at head office address (that’s why God gave us Wikipedia).

    Much less frustrating than phone tag.  One benefit of being a bit hardofhearing (I mention that in letter, request ‘would rather not communicate by phone’)

  127. 127.

    WaterGirl

    @mali muso: That sounds awful, worse than mine. I have been having worry dreams about COVID.  Two nights in a row.

    *though come to think of it, several weeks ago I had a creepy T**** dream where he had my niece tied up on a table, and I set her free, and then we got back to (somewhere?) in a high-rise building with windows, and when I looked out the window his ugly face was staring right at me.

  130. 130.

    ian

    It’s Gingrich, Delay, Hastret, Boehner, Ryan, and McCarthy that I believe are the six dudes Mrs. Plaskett is referring to.  Being an incompetent jerk is indeed part of the job description.  I think Dick Army might also fall into this category.  If so, he is the low bar of competence in the modern Republican party.

  132. 132.

    WaterGirl

    @JMG: well, hopefully some of the republicans who voted yes in the previous vote, like the woman who is talking about the McCarthy-T**** phone call will be willing to vote for witnesses.

  133. 133.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Chuck Todd is the most vapid political observer on the planet, even more than Luke Russert when they made him a politico on his 13th birthday in honor of his dead dad. In a meritocracy, Chuck Todd would be explaining to you why they ran out of roast beef on his Arby’s shift.

  134. 134.

    Amir Khalid

    @SiubhanDuinne: ​
     Pavilion is in Bukit Bintang, the most crowded shopping area in central KL. I tend to avoid Bukit Bintang, especially these days. So no, I haven’t seen that 3D bull in person.

  135. 135.

    Gvg

    @zhena gogolia: No. Some companies stood behind their products. Most never did. Don’t romanticize the past. Bad companies are always the majority. And the free market doesn’t always kill the terribly managed companies and reward the good service company because their are always multiple factors influencing events.
    Customers generally don’t like being treated badly though, so it can happen.

  137. 137.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @zhena gogolia: ​
      I usually ask if the person I am talking to is authorized to okay whatever I am asking for. If they say no, I ask to be transferred up the ladder. No sense in spending time talking to people who cannot help – it’s not their fault; they are just doing their job. But someone in the organization can say yes, and that is the person I want to speak to.

  139. 139.

    Geminid

    @Geminid: Correction: it seems that the defense cannot call whomever it wants to testify. It sounds like the Senators have a vote on particular witnesses. Advocates for trump have been making big talk about all the witnesses they’ll call. They may not have understood this either.

  140. 140.

    Geminid

    @Omnes Omnibus: Some people will use any issue whatsoever at any times to undermine confidence in the Democratic party. These people are not Democrats, but they know they can influence unwary Democrats. Their motivation is transparent to anyone who pays attention.

  141. 141.

    Rob

    @Kathleen: That’s a fair amount of snow away from the lakes and the north. Good luck with your plans! We were going to go to bank & post office just after 9 am to beat the weather but the weather beat us. So we drank hot chocolate, ate an early lunch, and are … going to do some work.

  143. 143.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @germy: Now, in contrast, here is an excellent film where sexual cannibalism plays a role. (I can’t believe there was an actual excuse to post that link).

    Explanation: My wife and I have an annual V-day tradition that includes watching the Oscar-Nominated Short Films, which are packaged and released for theatrical viewing in early Feb in normal years. Oscars and nominations are delayed this year, so we’re doing a “best of” festival where we track down and watch shorts from previous years.

    The link is to an animated film about a multi-species group therapy session run by a dog who is a self-help guru. It’s one of my all-time favorites. One of the group is a praying mantis who has a habit of, well, you know…

  144. 144.

    brantl

    @NotMax: Use Gatorade, if this is an electrolyte related cramp, nothing else will work better, other than intravenous Ringer’s solution..

  145. 145.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @zhena gogolia: ​

    So you are faced with just shutting up and going away, or screaming in helpless rage at someone you know is not to blame for your plight and can only repeat the words somebody has written for them, which only increases your rage, but you have no one to vent it on except the poor innocent employee

    As you say, we have no choice but to vent to that employee. Unless I feel they are being personally unhelpful, I try to remember to say, “I’m not mad at you personally and I’m sorry you have to bear the brunt of this, but…”  Also I do expect that they can help me, and often they come through, though it may take several tries. For instance, the online order I had with Lowes for some lumber last summer, which did eventually arrive 3 months late after only 3 phone calls.

  146. 146.

    Bill Arnold

    @zhena gogolia:

    I’m old enough to know it wasn’t always this way. Companies stood behind their products/services and would let you speak to someone who could help you.

    In such cases, my father would often write a polite but forceful paper letter (not sure if handwritten or word processor) to the CEO of the company. Often got deferential action, sometimes compensation.

  147. 147.

    leeleeFL

    @Just Some Fuckhead: I only look on Nextdoor, never engage.  Ain’t safe here in Flori- duh!  One can learn some local news though, do there’s that.  I don’t need it for weather, I can hear it’s pouring!

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