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You are here: Home / Politics / Biden Administration in Action / Saturday Morning Open Thread: Incremental Progress

Saturday Morning Open Thread: Incremental Progress

by Anne Laurie|  July 31, 20218:08 am| 128 Comments

This post is in: Biden Administration in Action, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Trump Crime Cartel

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Well said, Mr. Future Speaker. https://t.co/drhzvehhfL

— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) July 30, 2021

Biden: "It is clear that if everybody is vaccinated, the existing vaccines work to prevent death, serious illness, and hospitalization. Okay? So if tomorrow I could wave a wand and every American is vaccinated, in fact we would be out of the woods." pic.twitter.com/VD1xFifbqd

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) July 29, 2021

AP-NORC poll: 6 in 10 Democrats say they’re optimistic about their party’s future, including similar majorities of liberals and of moderates and conservatives. Democrats also nearly universally approve of Biden. https://t.co/gREQcnaHNW pic.twitter.com/x3jlIByDtk

— The Associated Press (@AP) July 30, 2021

NEW — Khizr Khan has been nominated by Biden to serve as Appointee for Commissioner of the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom

— Sam Stein (@samstein) July 30, 2021

Absolutely unthinkable a decade ago. You love to see it. https://t.co/oqBeCeQ2j1

— zeddy (@Zeddary) July 30, 2021

Elsewhere… Friday doc dump:

Former President Donald Trump suffered twin setbacks when the Justice Department cleared the way to release his tax records and disclosed a memo showing he had urged top officials last year to falsely claim his election defeat was ‘corrupt’ https://t.co/kVTSpMe9pF pic.twitter.com/aHew8eAfBc

— Reuters (@Reuters) July 31, 2021

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  1. 1.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:12 am

    Blech.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 8:13 am

    Curious what 4 in 10 Dems think is wrong with the party.

  3. 3.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2021 at 8:15 am

    A WW2 capsule biography. Heckuva record (and a heckuva name you won’t soon forget).

  4. 4.

    rikyrah

    July 31, 2021 at 8:17 am

    Good Morning, Everyone???

  5. 5.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:18 am

    Dan [email protected]
    Who’s going to tell her?

    Elise Stefanick

    Today’s anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid reminds us to reflect on the critical role these programs have played to protect the healthcare of millions of families. To safeguard our future, we must reject socialist healthcare schemes.

  6. 6.

    zhena gogolia

    July 31, 2021 at 8:19 am

    So nice to see this positive politics post first thing in the morning. Thanks, AL!

  7. 7.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:20 am

    @Baud: We haven’t killed all the Republicans yet?

  8. 8.

    zhena gogolia

    July 31, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    They really just compete to be the worst people on the face of the earth, don’t they? They all need to take a trip to a Montana fly-fishing shop so Dan Bailey can tell them what’s what.

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2021 at 8:21 am

    @Baud

    Almost 1 in 10 mentioned that for a party it didn’t proffer enough ice cream and cake.

    //

  10. 10.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 8:22 am

    @rikyrah: Good morning.

  11. 11.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 8:23 am

    @NotMax:

    Legitimate beef.

  12. 12.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2021 at 8:26 am

    @Baud

    Yet another fine band name.

    ;)

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:28 am

    Alexandria [email protected]
    When you accidentally let your billionaire funder-talk slip out on TV, you say things like “a healthy ruling class”

    Justin Baragona
    @justinbaragona
    · Jul 29
    JD Vance says that the country is run by “childless cat ladies” who don’t have a “direct stake in it,” specifically naming Pete Buttigieg and AOC.

    “If we want a healthy ruling class, we should support more people who actually have kids.”

  14. 14.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 8:28 am

    Sam, the cat famous for sliding down the pole in the fire station where he lived in California. 1958. https://t.co/PAcEKE7zPR
    Video of Sam in action here: https://t.co/PT6zrPVORw pic.twitter.com/6dEudwX4ey

    — Molly (@CatsOfYore) July 29, 2021

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    July 31, 2021 at 8:28 am

    @Baud: They prefer the brand of toothpaste recommended by the remaining one in five dentists.

  16. 16.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 8:29 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    Slip of the tongue. He meant to say wealthy ruling class.

  17. 17.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:31 am

    Mikel [email protected]_Jollett
    Told my niece the delta variant was as contagious as chicken pox and she said, “What’s chicken pox?”

    “Well, see, there was a vaccine…”

    Chef’s kiss

  18. 18.

    debbie

    July 31, 2021 at 8:32 am

    @germy:

    He seemed…recalcitrant.

  19. 19.

    raven

    July 31, 2021 at 8:32 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    “She may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. She really is an idiot.”  G Marx

  20. 20.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 8:33 am

    So I’ve had Moderna and Pfizer, both cycles. Shooting for the trifecta with a J&J jab.

    This is because I’m back in filthy courthouses with stupid unvaxxed people, forced to do so by too many judges in too many rural circuits who rule as if it is a personal fiefdom in accordance with the prejudices of ignorant hilljacks as they ignore the Chief Justice on opening and safety. Did I mention that our completely retarded (and no nicer word should be applied) legislooters have stripped Andy Beshear’s ability to address the pandemic?

  21. 21.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 8:35 am

    @debbie:

    “It seems important to the humans, so I’ll do it.  Now where’s my food?”

  22. 22.

    Gin & Tonic

    July 31, 2021 at 8:38 am

    @NotMax: Close.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 8:39 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    They should make a subcutaneous version of the vaccine, like Norplant but for corona.

  24. 24.

    Danielx

    July 31, 2021 at 8:39 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    seconded.

  25. 25.

    frosty

    July 31, 2021 at 8:39 am

    @rikyrah:  Good morning! Dunno why I’m awake at this hour :-(

    @OzarkHillbilly:  Blech to you too, at least until 10:00 or so when I get functional.

  26. 26.

    frosty

    July 31, 2021 at 8:42 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
      Yeah, that Stefanik quote is amazing. I thought “Keep your government hands off my Medicare” was great, but this one outdoes it.

  27. 27.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 8:43 am

    @Baud:

    Will report on the trackers, the 5G and Magneto power that’s sure to emerge this time.

  28. 28.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 8:46 am

    I saw an interesting article in Politico, titled “Crypto currency industry fears big hit in infrastructure bill.” Language in the bill mandates that trades in Bitcoin and assets  be subject to the same reporting requirements as stocks and other assets. Industry advocates are crying foul:

          Perianne Boring, founder and president of the Digital Chamber of Commerce, said in an interview….” The idea of shoving this into a congressional mandate or as a revenue generator for something completely unrelated, is not the preferred way or the right way to get the best policy.”

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:47 am

    @raven: And the elected chair of the House Republican Conference. The GOP is just chock full of high quality hires.

  30. 30.

    raven

    July 31, 2021 at 8:52 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: But if we were just nicer to them. . .

  31. 31.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2021 at 8:53 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    “I drank a Corona on board Delta and a rift opened in the space-time continuum.”

    //

  32. 32.

    Zinsky

    July 31, 2021 at 8:54 am

    Given the recent disclosures about Trump pressuring the DOJ to declare the 2020 election “corrupt”, Trump’s recorded phone calls to Georgia’s Raffensperger and the assclown ? in Arizona to change the election results, and his utter dereliction of duty from 11/6/20 to 1/20/21, I hope House Democrats impeach the slimeball a third time via the process outlined in the Constitution (nothing says it has to be a sitting President) and charge him criminally with election fraud!

  33. 33.

    hueyplong

    July 31, 2021 at 8:54 am

    @Geminid: Perianne seems unaware of the nature of American legislation for the entirety of the experiment.

  34. 34.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 8:55 am

    Priorities:

    LAS VEGAS (AP) – U.S. Rep. Mark Amodei of Nevada had three surgeries and an outpatient procedure over the past 10 months for cancerous tumors on his kidneys and a cancerous spot in his esophagus, the Republican congressman disclosed Friday.

    Amodei told The Associated Press that he did not reveal the cancer when he first learned of it last September or his surgery before the November election because he didn’t want it to be used against him in his reelection campaign.

    The 63-year-old Republican said if someone had asked him about it at the time, he would have truthfully answered about his condition and said of his hospital stays, “I didn’t check in under aliases or anything else.”

    But, he said, “there’s no way I’m going to go out and volunteer it in an election cycle.”

    https://wnyt.com/politics/nevada-rep-amodei-discloses-cancer-on-kidneys-esophagus/6190333/?cat=10104

  35. 35.

    MattF

    July 31, 2021 at 8:57 am

    Speaking of incremental, Trump’s lawyers haven’t given up.

  36. 36.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 8:58 am

    @raven: “Nice guys finish last.”
    – Leo Durocher

  37. 37.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 9:01 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I am evidence of that.

  38. 38.

    Leto

    July 31, 2021 at 9:02 am

    @Geminid:  Wonder how Perianne thought we should’ve handled a “currency” that has no value and is basically only used for the drug trade, arm sales, and human trafficking? Wanker.

  39. 39.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 9:03 am

    @hueyplong: This is like how the Corporate Transparency Act, mandating disclosure of the real owners of shell companies, was attached to the defense authorization act during the lame duck session. Congress easily overrode trump’s veto of the bill. A writer from Forbes Magazine called the CTA the most significant anti-corruption legislation in decades. New York Representative Carolyn Maloney was a key sponsor..

  40. 40.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 9:09 am

    There’s infrastructure, and then there’s Dutch infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/Gjken1k5A5

    — Brent Toderian (@BrentToderian) July 30, 2021

    The values of a nation are revealed by how it chooses, designs and builds its infrastructure. Once again, the Dutch show how it’s done. Dutch ecoduct to reduce barriers for wildlife, HT @beursgram pic.twitter.com/XUItbZCpMi

    — Brent Toderian (@BrentToderian) July 30, 2021

  41. 41.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 9:09 am

    @Leto: Ms. Boring sounded pretty upset. For her.

  42. 42.

    NotMax

    July 31, 2021 at 9:09 am

    @Baud

    “Everybody hates me because I’m so universally liked.”
     - Peter De Vries
    .

  43. 43.

    Warblewarble

    July 31, 2021 at 9:11 am

    Garland is no show pony .Actions of DOJ will have and are meant to have consequences. Keeping powder dry and firing for effect are more important than showy gestures.

  44. 44.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:16 am

    @Geminid:

    Y’know, it occurs to me that an industry doesn’t really have clout unless it shows that it benefits the common weal, like with jobs, tax revenue and the like.

    If you’re not paying taxes, don’t have large campuses involving rent/purchase of real estate and equipment, don’t have a giant cohort of domestic employees and your business model is all about facilitating tax evasion and money laundering for scammers, hackers, narco traffickers, human traffickers, child porn and gun running, it’s going to be difficult to generate legislative sympathy.

  45. 45.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:18 am

    @germy:

    Its how the Dutch make up for being hideously racist shits for most of their history….

  46. 46.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 9:22 am

    @Zinsky: 
    I’m still fucking furious that sanctimonious skyscraper Comey played right into his hands with his announcing the reopening of the investigation right before the election. That’s exactly what Zelensjy was smart enough to know not to do.

  47. 47.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 9:27 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    America was/is hideously racist and our infrastructure is an embarrassment.

  48. 48.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 31, 2021 at 9:30 am

    “So if tomorrow I could wave a wand and every American is vaccinated, in fact we would be out of the woods.”

    Biden refuses to use magic vaccination wand. -All Faux News asshats

  49. 49.

    Chief Oshkosh

    July 31, 2021 at 9:30 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Did you have side effects with the second complete round of vaccination?

  50. 50.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 9:34 am

    @MomSense: Zelensky had to consider the possibility that the DEMs might win.

    eta: and Comey forgot to consider the possibility that trump might win.

  51. 51.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 31, 2021 at 9:35 am

    Former President Donald Trump suffered twin setbacks when the Justice Department cleared the way to release his tax records and disclosed a memo showing he had urged top officials last year to falsely claim his election defeat was ‘corrupt’

    “setbacks”

    FUCK ME SIDEWAYS, REUTERS!

  52. 52.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:37 am

    @germy:

    True. Our “make up” infrastructure in the 22nd and 23rd centuries should be amazing, assuming we survive.

    Wonder what the Yonkers, Orlando and Paterson seafronts are going to look like? Will there be boardwalks?

  53. 53.

    zhena gogolia

    July 31, 2021 at 9:37 am

    @Warblewarble:

    Yes.

  54. 54.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 9:39 am

    @Geminid: Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney first introduced the Corporate Transparency Act a decade ago. So when you ask somebody, “Guess which woman in Congress just got a powerful financial reform measure passed!” and they answer, “Katie Porter!? Elizabeth Warren?!” you can say, “No. Caroline Maloney.”

    And they’ll say, “Who?”

  55. 55.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:40 am

    @Chief Oshkosh:

    Not a bit. I had the Moderna cycle for first jabs; the second shot rocked my world for 30 hours. After that, Pfizer 1 stung, but no side effects. Pfizer 2 was a breeze.

  56. 56.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 9:40 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    At least he was mildly nauseous for a minute.

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    July 31, 2021 at 9:41 am

    @Baud:

    Curious what 4 in 10 Dems think is wrong with the party.

    Other Democrats.

  58. 58.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 9:42 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    INORITE

  59. 59.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 9:43 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Second Moderna jab had me hallucinating.  Got me good.

  60. 60.

    Just Chuck

    July 31, 2021 at 9:45 am

    @Leto: Your picture of bitcoin is naive and inaccurate: you forgot ransomware in that list.

  61. 61.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:46 am

    @MomSense:

    Mine was 30 hours of fatigue, headache, earache, fog and renewed loud tinnitus (that had faded a few years ago).

  62. 62.

    Ripley

    July 31, 2021 at 9:46 am

    @Geminid:

     Perianne Boring, founder and president of the Digital Chamber of Commerce

    LMAO Oh my fucking god…  Please, tell me this is an adult human being who walks around doing adult things.

    “I’m a pirate spaceman ninja!”

  63. 63.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 9:47 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    Here’s the famous climate change lecture from 1958.

    Invest in glass bottomed boats:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-AXBbuDxRY

  64. 64.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 9:48 am

    @Just Chuck:

    Such a socially beneficial means of exchange, really. Speeds you right past all that yucky statist currency control.

  65. 65.

    gene108

    July 31, 2021 at 9:48 am

    @germy:

    America was/is hideously racist and our infrastructure is an embarrassment.

    America inherited its racism from settlers like the Dutch.

    Like many people born after independence, I had no experience of living under the Dutch rule to be able to say how bad or good it was. At school we learned a thing or two about the nature of colonialism. But that is precisely the question.

    How much do we know about how our ancestors lived through those 300 years, when we know that they were killed, tortured, raped, suppressed, enslaved at home, sold as slaves abroad, forced into hard labor, sent to exile, treated as non-citizens on their own land and stripped of all dignity as human beings?

    Going by the available literature in Indonesia, the Netherlands or anywhere else for that matter, we know very little about the humiliation they had to go through. We celebrate Indonesia’s independence this week like we have done every year since 1945, honoring the heroes who fought during the revolutionary wars in the late 1940s and early 20th-century thinkers who started the campaign for independence for the Dutch East Indies.

    That is really as far as our collective memory takes us. We are celebrating an ahistorical independence anniversary. What about those 300 years from the time the Netherlands started to impose control over global spice supplies from Indonesia by violent means? We know of the 1621 killings of almost the entire population of 14,000 people on Banda Island. But we know little of the intervening years between that massacre and the war for independence in 1945-1949.

    SNIP

    Dutch literature of the 17th, 18th and 19th century is filled with glorification of how their tiny country ruled the world to become the wealthiest nation on earth. The VOC, the Dutch East Indies Company, has been touted as the first truly multinational company. Grossly absent is the cruelty and brutality as the Netherlands seized control of the spice trade and the transatlantic slave trade. These are not in their collective memory. In the United States, we get glimpses of the horrors that African slaves went through, and some of these stories have turned into bestseller books…

    This article was published in thejakartapost.com with the title “COMMENTARY: How bad, how cruel were Dutch to us?”. Click to read: https://www.thejakartapost.com/academia/2018/08/23/commentary-how-bad-how-cruel-were-dutch-to-us.html.

  66. 66.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 9:50 am

    @MomSense: Cooool!​
    “#comment-8241368”>@Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: So, my everyday normal.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 9:51 am

    @Geminid:

    Isn’t she also responsible for the child tax credit?

  68. 68.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 31, 2021 at 9:52 am

    @germy: Hmm, I guess he was the inspiration for Esther Averill’s The Fire Cat.

  69. 69.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 9:53 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    And not a penny in royalties for him.

  70. 70.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 9:54 am

    @Steeplejack (phone):

    Hard to believe 6 in 10 Democrats are happy with other Democrats though.

  71. 71.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 9:56 am

    @Ripley:

    I can’t believe the actual Chamber of Commerce hasn’t sued yet for trademark infringement.

  72. 72.

    Matt McIrvin

    July 31, 2021 at 9:56 am

    @MomSense: I had generally mild side effects from the Moderna but the oddball thing after the second shot was stomach upset. Not nausea, more stomach rumbles, and it might just have been from eating some junky food around that time.

    The vaccine that knocked me on my ass was Shingrix.

  73. 73.

    Ken

    July 31, 2021 at 10:01 am

    @Ripley: @Baud: The power of the real Chamber of Commerce is that they have dues-paying members, and use those funds for lobbying activities.  I wonder if this Digital Chamber of Commerce has any members other than its founder and president.

    And would any sane person want to ask Bitcoin users for money, or accept it if offered?  You’re certain to be contacted a couple weeks later by a couple of bulky fellows with Russian accents who say “we did you a favor, now we need you to do a favor for us….”

  74. 74.

    Just Chuck

    July 31, 2021 at 10:05 am

    @Ken: I’m sure they have tens of thousands of members email list signups.

  75. 75.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 10:05 am

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Stepmom also had a really bad reaction to Shingrix.  Had Bell’s Palsy – and some other bizarre things. She recovered fully but it was scary.

  76. 76.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 10:06 am

    “Please, please don’t tell anyone I don’t dance on the interstate anymore.“

  77. 77.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 10:07 am

    @Ken: I suspect they are a couple of bulky fellows with Russian accents.

  78. 78.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    July 31, 2021 at 10:11 am

    @Baud: ​

    Curious what 4 in 10 Dems think is wrong with the party.

    I’ve always wondered if we have our own, lefty version of The Crazification Factor. Not exactly the same mental makeup as the RWNJ version but something that explains this.
    My working theory (developed this morning) is that this number represents a combination of Blue Dog types (WE’RE SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY!!!!) and Our Progressive Betters (IT’S NEVER ENOUGH!!!! BIDEN IS A NEOLIBERAL CORPORATE SCHILL!!!!!!!).

    The problem with the latter is that they never typically identify themselves as Democrats, they’re the lefty version of glibertarians.​​​​

  79. 79.

    MomSense

    July 31, 2021 at 10:12 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MKm5RyYAIxI There must be some kind of planet,  for all the people who can manage, all of us who can handle it with all of this damage

  80. 80.

    Ken

    July 31, 2021 at 10:13 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: “All my friends say we mustn’t live in fear, so they dance on the interstate. Some even do it carrying knives with the point up, and wearing plastic bags over their heads. But I’m kind of worried….”

  81. 81.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 10:15 am

    @Baud: She could well have been in on the child care credit. Maloney has a lot of seniority and sounds like a hard worker. She has served in Congress since 1993.

    I was interested to see that Caroline Maloney was born in Greensboro, North Carolina, and is a graduate of Greensboro College. According to Wickipedia, Maloney visited New York City in 1970 and decided to stay.

    Born in 1946, Maloney would be part of the Congressional “gerontocracy” people sometimes complain about.

  82. 82.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 10:17 am

    @comrade scotts agenda of rage:

    Perhaps. It could just as easily be moderates who think we’re moving to the left to quickly or too much. Or a combination.

  83. 83.

    dr. bloor

    July 31, 2021 at 10:19 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: ​
     

    So I’ve had Moderna and Pfizer, both cycles. Shooting for the trifecta with a J&J jab.

    If you don’t mind my being nosy, what was your reaction after each of the injections?

  84. 84.

    Cameron

    July 31, 2021 at 10:20 am

    @Baud: Part of it may be people who are fixated on a specific issue. The issue can be very important, but there are a ton of such issues and the government can only handle so many at one time.

  85. 85.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 31, 2021 at 10:20 am

    @Ken: Shhhhhhhhh….

  86. 86.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 10:23 am

    @Baud:

    I’m super moderate (used to call myself “conservatively progressive”), but I’m starting to see everything as being broken by conservatives to such a point that there are way fewer institutional needs to hold off on big changesshould some decent consensus arise.

  87. 87.

    dr. bloor

    July 31, 2021 at 10:25 am

    @Geminid: ​

    Perianne Boring, founder and president of the Digital Chamber of Commerce

    “Digital Chamber of Commerce” is the 21st century version of New York’s Five Families.
    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: ​

  88. 88.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    July 31, 2021 at 10:25 am

    @NotMax: Dick Bong, Ace of Aces, flew one of my favorite WWII planes — the P-38 Lightning, supposedly nicknamed Der Gabelschwanz-Teufel (Fork Tailed Devil) by the Luftwaffe. Antoine de Saint Exupery flew the French variant.

  89. 89.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 10:27 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    I’m more of a momentum guy.  Sometimes you have a lot, sometimes a little, but you should always push to move forward, and try to keep the other side from gaining ground in the other direction.

  90. 90.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 10:29 am

    @Baud: It could be the 20% at either end of the party who have reservations along the lines of, too far, not far enough; or, too fast, not fast enough. Not objections so much as reservations. The really strident criticisms I see of Democratic policies are coming from people outside the party: Republicans on the right, and “Brogressives,” as Mr. Lobster calls them, on the left.

  91. 91.

    debbie

    July 31, 2021 at 10:32 am

    @Geminid:

    Is she a self-appointed corporation of one?

  92. 92.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 31, 2021 at 10:34 am

    @MattF: ​

    Trump’s lawyers haven’t given up.

    Someone in the comments says the court aspect is already decided, that delay is built into the process rather than a win for Trump, and is likely to be short – whatever that means.

  93. 93.

    Baud

    July 31, 2021 at 10:34 am

    @Geminid: That’s the thing.  20% seems high for either wing.  I would have put the dissatisfied on either end at about 5%.

  94. 94.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 31, 2021 at 10:35 am

    @MomSense:

    Second Moderna jab had me hallucinating.  Got me good. 

    Can you tell us what a purple monkey dishwasher looks like?

    (I really hope it’s not a purple monkey washing dishes.)

  95. 95.

    Frankensteinbeck

    July 31, 2021 at 10:39 am

    @Baud:

    As a party that actually tries to do things right, almost no one agrees that the sausage that finally results is what we should be doing because there are a hundred opinions of what works best.  You see it a lot here, and yet we are (very) faithful Democratic voters.

  96. 96.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 10:50 am

     

     

    @Baud: Maybe the dissatisfied are concerned about the slow pace of things. I know a lot of people are. We live in an age of impatience. And there is the possibility that one of our Senators from a red-Governor state could keel over.

  97. 97.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 10:54 am

    @debbie: That’s what Ms. Boring sounds like. She could be grifting. Or maybe she is self funding, and just wants to be Somebody.

  98. 98.

    S. Cerevisiae

    July 31, 2021 at 10:56 am

    @Cheryl from Maryland:  One of the bridges between Duluth and Superior is named for Bong, legend has it that he flew a P-38 under the Aerial Lift Bridge in Duluth.

  99. 99.

    Fair Economist

    July 31, 2021 at 11:00 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Because neutralizing immunity falls off pretty quickly, I don’t think getting a whole bunch of shots in sequence would be all that useful. Getting bolstered every 3 to 6 months would be a better try for sustained high immunity. I also found my third challenge, in my case 2 Moderna after having had it, less problematic than my second, so maybe repeated boosters won’t be much of a problem.

  100. 100.

    Ksmiami

    July 31, 2021 at 11:06 am

    @mrmoshpotato: I was so dizzy from the second Moderna-

  101. 101.

    zhena gogolia

    July 31, 2021 at 11:14 am

    Love this. Perfect.

    As I've said before, the Trump presidency and its media apologists were just one protracted riff on the Austin Powers Swedish penis enlarger sketch, "Yes this is my bag, baby." https://t.co/8I09V7FDnB— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 30, 2021

  102. 102.

    Kathleen

    July 31, 2021 at 11:30 am

    @Geminid:  She’s being primaried.

  103. 103.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 11:35 am

    A federal judge in D.C. erupted in anger at a Jan. 6 riot defendant and his lawyer for refusing to cooperate with court officials on COVID safety requirements.

    "When did you go to medical school?" https://t.co/cb1y1yTvVA

    — Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) July 31, 2021

  104. 104.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 11:36 am

    @Fair Economist:

    So my sequence was March Moderna, June Pfizer and J&J mid August.

  105. 105.

    J R in WV

    July 31, 2021 at 11:40 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​
     

    Elise Stefanick

    Today’s anniversary of Medicare and Medicaid reminds us to reflect on the critical role these programs have played to protect the healthcare of millions of families. To safeguard our future, we must reject socialist healthcare schemes.

    “To safeguard our future, we must reject socialist healthcare schemes.” Reject sociailst schemes like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid…

    This Stefanicq woman is dumber than a fuckin’ rock, isn’t she?

    To be able to speak two different things from the same mouth like that, it’s almost as good as being a comedian.

    Thanks for sharing, Ozark.

  106. 106.

    germy

    July 31, 2021 at 11:52 am

    @J R in WV:

    Welcome to upstate NY republicans.

    It’s their world up here, people like me just live in it.

  107. 107.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 11:52 am

    @germy:

    About the only thing our useless federal judiciary gets righteously pissed off about enough to do anything with speed or certitude about is the sacred calendar.

    Everything else is dithery.

  108. 108.

    MagdaInBlack

    July 31, 2021 at 11:57 am

    @zhena gogolia: Made me laugh, and yes, its perfect. ?

  109. 109.

    frosty

    July 31, 2021 at 12:03 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland: ​
      You must have heard about Glacier Girl then, right?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glacier_Girl
    https://www.warhistoryonline.com/military-vehicle-news/15-p-38-glacier-girl-pictures.html

  110. 110.

    J R in WV

    July 31, 2021 at 12:04 pm

    @S. Cerevisiae:

     One of the bridges between Duluth and Superior is named for Bong, legend has it that he flew a P-38 under the Aerial Lift Bridge in Duluth.tly

    There is 16mm news film of Chuck Yeager flying under bridges on the Kanawha river here in Charleston WV, out of the AF base in Dayton OH.

    Strictly against all the rules, but Chuck was never one much for rules. He used to race cars on narrow country roads around Lincoln county, WV. Was one hell of a driver of anything from Chevys to the X-1 spacecraft series.

  111. 111.

    Geminid

    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 pm

    @Kathleen: Last year, Carolyn Maloney beat “progressive” challenger Suraj Patel in the Democratic primary by only 4%.

    In 1992, Maloney won her first Congressional election in what had been called the “Silk Stocking District” of the upper East Side. Previously, it had been in the hands of Republicans, but redistricting  changed it some.

  112. 112.

    frosty

    July 31, 2021 at 12:09 pm

    @J R in WV: I just saw a short History Channel bio of Bong this morning. He may or may not have looped the Golden Gate Bridge, but he did fly down Market Street in San Francisco, so low he could see in the windows and knocking down some poor woman’s laundry hanging out to dry. General Kenney chewed him out, then had him go back and help her with the laundry.

    He also raced cars before he got into aviation.

  113. 113.

    J R in WV

    July 31, 2021 at 12:10 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    So my sequence was March Moderna, June Pfizer and J&J mid August.

    Dude, mid-August hasn’t happened yet… pretty sure J&J wasn’t available at all last August.

    According to the FDA…

    On February 27, 2021, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued an emergency use authorization (EUA) for the third vaccine for the prevention of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

    ETA: No offense intended, I can’t tell what month it is without a computer… just struck by the mid-August here in July.  ;~)

  114. 114.

    J R in WV

    July 31, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    And where will we get hot-shot pilots without stock car street racing?

  115. 115.

    Cheryl from Maryland

    July 31, 2021 at 12:40 pm

    @frosty: Yes.  My other fav WWII plane is the F4U Corsair, aka “Whistling Death.”  You can tell I’m big on nicknames.

  116. 116.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    July 31, 2021 at 12:49 pm

    @J R in WV:

    Scheduled for mid August….

  117. 117.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 12:56 pm

    @Baud: 3 in 10 are unrepentent chaos agents of #ourrevolution.

    1 in 10 are holdover lester maddox democrats who still don’t trust a party of linqoln.

  118. 118.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:01 pm

    @NotMax: big john cornyn energy

  119. 119.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:04 pm

    @germy: maybe he wanted to serve from the grave, like nv state sen dennis “qhost pimp” hoffs (r – qathouse)

  120. 120.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:07 pm

    @MomSense: you can take the man out of ken starr’s retinue of crack climpton inquisitors, but you can’t take the climpton inquisition out of the man

  121. 121.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:08 pm

    @Geminid: clearly, maloney is a neoliberal fascist shill propping up endstage kapitalism.

    justice democrats must primary her.

  122. 122.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:11 pm

    @Cheryl from Maryland: i enjoy his recreation area

  123. 123.

    MontyTheClipArtMongoose

    July 31, 2021 at 1:13 pm

    @Kathleen: called it

  124. 124.

    Kathleen

    July 31, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    @MontyTheClipArtMongoose: They already are.

  125. 125.

    Kathleen

    July 31, 2021 at 1:45 pm

    @MontyTheClipArtMongoose: Yup.

  126. 126.

    Marc McKenzie

    July 31, 2021 at 4:27 pm

    @Warblewarble: ​
     

    I wish more people would understand that.

    I mean, only a couple of weeks ago there were calls for his head on a pike.

  127. 127.

    Uncle Cosmo

    July 31, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    @J R in WV: FTR the X-1 series were rocket planes, and most definitely NOT “spacecraft.”

  128. 128.

    Richard

    July 31, 2021 at 10:03 pm

    @Baud:

    2 of the 4 think the platform is not progressive enough, one doesn’t really care about politics, and the other is a closet republican.

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