Dwayne Johnson says that after Alec Baldwin’s fatal on-set shooting of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, his production company “will not use real guns ever again” on its TV and film sets. pic.twitter.com/3EBQNjY8fw
— AP Entertainment (@APEntertainment) November 4, 2021
Here’s hoping, per Variety:
… Seven Bucks Productions, founded by Johnson and his longtime business partner Dany Garcia, is behind some of the most lucrative films in recent years, from “Jumanji” to “Jungle Cruise,” to “Hobbs and Shaw” and the upcoming “Black Adam.” Johnson is not just one of the most famous people in the world, but also one of the most respected and beloved figures in the business, who carries a lot of weight and brings mega-bucks to the box office. In other words, Johnson’s endorsement to end the use of real firearms can kick-off a domino effect of safe decision-making across Hollywood productions…
Rust numbers, per a new story from Yahoo Entertainment:
Producers on Rust, including Alec Baldwin, have come under fire over reports of chaotic working conditions in the wake of Halyna Hutchins’s death. The Hollywood Reporter obtained a draft of the production budget which sheds light on where money was allocated on the independent Western movie.
Baldwin was set to earn $150,000 as lead actor and $100,000 as producer, according to the new report. Hutchins, an up-and-coming cinematographer, would have earned $48,945, while armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, one of two people at the center of the investigation, was set to be paid $7,913. Producers budgeted $7,469 for “armorer crew,” $17,500 for the rental of weapons and $5,000 for rounds. Dave Halls, first assistant director who handed the prop gun to Baldwin, was to earn $52,830. While the draft confirms the low-budget nature of the film, which was slated to cost $7,279,305, experts tell THR the numbers are not unusual…
Smart, scary thread from someone who’s been in the business all her life:
A small story:
One of the most dangerous sayings among artists is “Jump and the net will appear.” The idea that if you risk the universe will automatically protect you from the worst possible consequences is very seductive and is not actually true. https://t.co/Yawp3OjWOL
— Quinn Cummings (@quinncy) October 27, 2021
… When you produce an indie, money is gathered slowly, painfully; I’d say you chip away at the amount you need like a sculptor working some marble, but imagine if while the sculptor delineated a leg, a bunch of marble sometimes grew back. Money gets promised, not always delivered.
At some point, you have to start moving forward as if the project is going to go, at least in part to get people you want to work with to block out the time you’ll need them on your schedule. Every day, you get closer to shooting. Every day, money waffles.
Making a movie outside of a studio system is objectively terrifying.
(Making a movie within the system is no pastoral idyll either, but that’s another Small Story)
Everything is on the line. Sometimes, literally; I personally know people who mortgaged houses to make a movie.
Not all of them kept their house.
“Alec Baldwin stood for the unions, how did he hire scabs?”
By the time the production company had hired scabs, they were already three weeks behind in paying the union crew, who is on record for not feeling safe with regards to, among other things, COVID oversight.
No one becomes a rank hypocrite overnight. I suspect the production began because there were people available exactly then and if they didn’t shoot they’d lose what little money was actually in the bank. Every day, they filmed and cut another corner, to make it another day.
Every night, the producers – which included the star – were probably dialing for dollars from prospective backers.
Imagine building a plane.
Now, imagine building it while flying over the Himalayas.
This was never going to work.
It never does.
They had to try…
Ask any parent what they would do to keep their baby alive, they’ll probably say some variation of, “Anything.” And yes, I am well aware that filmmaking is not parenting but filming takes up every second of your day, every cell of your brain, you aren’t sleeping or eating well.
Alec Baldwin and the rest of the producers probably didn’t see themselves as bad people, bad bosses, union-busters; they saw themselves as movie-makers briefly having to do hard things so the net had a chance to weave itself under their feet…
There is no way we aren’t going to reward movies with firepower.
There is no way independent filmmakers aren’t going to try to work on the cheap.
People will continue to jump, net be damned.
I am sickened to say I suspect #HalynaHutchins will not be the last victim.
oatler
Remember “Alan Partridge” on his final episode.
Alison Rose
When The Rock speaks, all must abide. Or at least I hope so.
Brachiator
The issue of safety involving stunts, props, weapons, is far more complicated than ending the use of real firearms.
And every responsible production person with a brain in their head will rethink safety and chain of custody of props issues.
Roger Moore
The money they’re talking about is for a 21 day shoot, so these aren’t exactly starvation wages. OTOH, those are A) amounts when they’re actually being paid, which is not all the time and B) pay for a non-stop, grueling schedule.
Adam L Silverman
raven
boo
raven
sab
My pitbull says people who love their dogs don’t go on other websites. I tell her dogs are a lot stupider than they used to be.
raven
@sab: I was so anti-pit. Now we have Artie and she is sooooo sweet.
MagdaInBlack
@raven: I look at her face ( and yes she is a sweetie) and I’m wondering what else is mixed in. She has a faintly Shiba Inu face maybe? I can’t quite place what I see. Whatever it is, I’m glad she found you. ❤️
NotMax
Rust never sleeps.
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Sure Lurkalot
Is it wrong to ask why there are so many movies and shows with guns?
Yeah, probably.
SpaceUnit
Seriously, how hard would it be to modify a gun so that it simply can’t fire a projectile?
Go to a local track meet and ask to borrow their starting pistol.
sab
I am waiting anxiously for Branagh’s “Belfast.” My husband even wants to see it, and he doessn’t do theaters anymore.
Mike in NC
We watched a pretty mediocre Western on Netflix last night: “The Harder They Fall” starring Idris Elba and some other talented actors. The buildings in the movie looked very much like the ones they keep showing from the set of “Rust”. I found an article in USA Today that confirmed they used the same set in New Mexico.
SpaceUnit
@Sure Lurkalot:
From now on all movie scripts should replace guns with pointy sticks.
But not real pointy ’cause that could be sort of dangerous!
raven
@MagdaInBlack: Yea we are trying to figure it out. People thought she was going to gain weight but, even though she eats like mad, she hasn’t. She’s gaining confidence and I think the beach trip helped. When I take her out in the large fenced in space she likes to roll over and then take off running in circles around me! She does nip a bit when she gets excited so we have to be careful.
raven
@sab: My brother is flying to Dublin to be a contestant on “Name That Tune”!
Roger Moore
@Sure Lurkalot:
It’s not wrong to ask, but the answer is pretty obvious. Movies and shows aren’t about the typical, boring world most of us inhabit. They’re about things that are more emotionally heightened, and that inevitably includes a lot of violence. Maybe they shouldn’t be quite as gun-centric as they are, but it’s inevitable that guns are going to be important.
ETA: To give a concrete example, Anton Chekhov famously talked about a gun as a plot element introduced early in the story being used by the end. That wasn’t because late 19th Century Russia was teeming with guns; it’s because plays and other dramatic works inevitably deal with situation that are beyond what we normally encounter.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
See Nancy Smash: A Political Tale In Three Tweets
https://twitter.com/hjessy_/status/1456377016647921668
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Roger Moore: Didn’t Scorcese say something about being drawn to The Age Of Innocence because of its genteel violence? or the violence of manners?
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Hahahahaha. That was awesome.
Ken
I’m imagining the audit of Seven Bucks Productions.
ASSETS: Dwayne Johnson
LIABILITIES: Like they matter. See ASSETS.
Ken
@Adam L Silverman: I have to think that when a lawyer’s first instinct is to find a television camera and preen, that’s a bad sign.
TaMara (HFG)
Dutch is one of the most qualified, sought after and cautions weapons masters in the business.
MagdaInBlack
@raven: That picture of her on the beach is the one that got me wondering about the mix. The way her face scrunches when she “smiles.”
TaMara (HFG)
@TaMara (HFG): I have never worked with him, but several folks I know have worked with him often and have a deep respect for his skills.
prostratedragon
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: If he didn’t say it explicitly, it’s clearly what he (and presumably Edith Wharton) meant to communicate.
Nicole
@Roger Moore:
That makes me remember- years ago I read in a book on TV that in the late ’70s or early ’80s, real-life cops were asked which TV show featuring cops most accurately represented their job. The overwhelming response was Barney Miller.
Ken
@Roger Moore: Chekhov’s Gun tends to be more honored in the breach than the observance. I sometimes think Deathtrap, the set design of which calls for walls covered with weapons, was written as a rebuttal.
Adam L Silverman
@Ken: That has been my understanding.
oclib
reminds me of the time I went to Navy boot camp in Orlando, Fl in `70. They gave us wooden rifles at the firing range and taught us positions for firing a rifle….never fired a live round. Guess they didn’t want to find out where a live round might land beyond the range….
Roger Moore
@Nicole:
One of the things I think Dragnet got right was presenting itself as a kind of composite of the whole LAPD. The story always happened to Joe Friday, but he was understood to be a stand-in for the whole department. I think most procedural shows should be understood in the same way. We’re presented with the same characters every week, but that’s a dramatic convenience. By having the same characters all the time, we can get to know and understand them and see they have lives beyond this week’s story in a way it would be harder to do if we had a new cast for each episode.
Sure Lurkalot
@Roger Moore: I hardly think violence is a prerequisite and inevitable to create good drama.
Roger Moore
@Ken:
The point, though, is that one might reasonably expect to see a gun and have it used as a weapon in a play, while this is not the expectation in real life. That’s because a play (or movie/TV show/etc.) is supposed to represent the most eventful time in an unusually eventful life. And this is a constant across cultures. We don’t have lots of weapons in our media because we’re a uniquely violent culture; we have lots of weapons in our media because media is inherently much more violent than real life.
Steve in the ATL
In closely related news, my Indian neighbors’ celebration is getting De-Wild.
raven
Gun Crazy was on yesterday, dig this description
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Not great news over here.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: they started the fireworks Tuesday night after the Braves game, and are getting crazier now while I’m trying to grill salmon
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Check out the news on the Dawgs
Ken
@Roger Moore: There is a similar observation in Terry Pratchett’s Wyrd Sisters. Death (THE ANTHROPOMORPHIC PERSONIFICATION) is at a play, and muses how strange it is that humans make these little worlds for entertainment, and fill them with all the things you’d think they would want to escape.
zhena gogolia
@raven: It’s a great film.
Steve in the ATL
@raven: Anderson?
Gravenstone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Representative Cuellar, a moment of your time?”
/opens coat and retrieves a glass vial
“If you ever want to see your testicles again, you stop fucking around and vote Yes on the Bill, understand?”
/returns vial to the lining of her coat and walks silently away
raven
@Steve in the ATL: yep
different-church-lady
@Adam L Silverman: Look, I ain’t no armorer, but It occurs to me that the reason you always safeguard the guns is because… MAYBE THERE ARE LIVE ROUNDS MISTAKENLY IN THEM HMMMM??
Steve in the ATL
@raven: super. So now we’re Florida. Or -[shudders] auburn.
raven
@Steve in the ATL: Well, there are a lot of players on the team so I’m not sure that is the case. His attorney, Sadow, is citing some inconsistencies in the allegations.
Major Major Major Major
@Roger Moore: might as well ask why entertainment media has so many more dragons and spaceships than my life does.
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Man, am I wondering what exactly she said to him…
Roger Moore
@Ken:
I think there’s some sense to that. People create imaginary worlds and fill them with things they might be expected to hate. But we then leave those imaginary worlds behind; they’re inherently transitory. That lets us encounter and grapple with those nasty things in a controlled environment we are free to leave when it suits us. Whether this is a way of conquering those things by making them seem small and manageable or a way of practicing dealing with them in fiction before we have to deal with them in real life is another question. But the basic idea is that they let us deal with the worst the world has to offer in a more controlled way than having it intrude on our real lives.
Tom Levenson
@Roger Moore: also, a 21 day shoot is not all the time it takes to be in a position to execute a 21 day shoot.
Analagously. In my department we estimate as a rule of thumb that a course with ~40 hours of classroom instruction consumes 200 hours of labor.
Major Major Major Major
@Alison Rose:
I’m reserving judgment until the second year of the Johnson administration.
Mike in NC
@Adam L Silverman: This so-called “armorer” from Baldwin’s movie should have a hard time getting a job scrubbing floors at Walmart.
Miss Bianca
@Gravenstone: okay, I can buy that…
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: “I will cut you.” Then she showed him the knife.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Miss Bianca: “I’m retiring soon. I’ve never had a drop of alcohol in my life, and my mother lived to be 97 and played 9 holes of golf without a cart the day before she died. You fuck with me, and I’ll take all the energy and know-how I spent becoming the first woman Speaker of the House, and the first Speaker to retake that gavel since Joe fucking Cannon to hound you out of office, and then out of every corporate gig you think you have lined up. You really wanna sell Hyundais in Amarillo in August? Fuck around and find out. The choice is yours.”
raven
@Omnes Omnibus:
I’m gonna scatter your brains,
from here to White Plains. . .
SFBayAreaGal
@raven: My nephew, sisterand brother have pitties. They are all sweeties
debbie
Is there such a thing as a film set with good working conditions, little to no stress, no pressure to come in under budget and on time, etc.?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
belongs in the thread below, but…
anybody got any champagne?
Omnes Omnibus
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: She made herself a public figure. Oh well.
CaseyL
@debbie: No. No, there is not.
But there are degrees; and there are sets where safety procedures are followed.
NotMax
@Steve in the ATL
“Where were you on the night of the 28th?”
:)
Fair Economist
Although the jokes are funny, I don’t think Pelosi is the threatening type. She described her job in the Obama years as “herding cats” and that’s not something you do with threats. I think her main tools right now are deals, DCCC money, and pointing out being the obstructionist brings a LOT of heat from the netroots. Cuellar had a tough primary in 2020; being the guy who stopped Biden’s agenda is genuinely not in his best interest.
Steve in the ATL
@NotMax: ha!
“Were you frying then or are you frying now?”
Roger Moore
@debbie:
There may not be such a thing as a stress-free film set, but there are still degrees. Filming is inherently stressful because it involves many people, which makes it expensive. Every little mistake is magnified because it costs the time and energy of everyone involved to reshoot.
But there are things well run movies can do to try to manage that stress, like having support staff for the most important people so they can focus all their energy on their job and providing housing nearby so the people who are already spending long days on set don’t have to add a painful commute on top of it. One of the things everyone learns living in the LA area is just how big a shoot can be because of that support staff. The people on set are just the tiny tip of a huge iceberg.
Failing to provide that support makes the production even more chaotic and draining than it otherwise might be. That can make the problems snowball: stress leads to mistakes, which requires longer shooting days, which leads to more mistakes, which brings into question the schedule, and so forth. It sounds like that’s what was happening on the set of Rust. They were trying to keep things going on a shoestring, and the lack of adequate support was dragging the people down.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Grand Junction is a decent size town, but how far could it have been to the nearest hospital?
debbie
@CaseyL:
It seems to me like Rust is being treated like an outlier when it should instead serve as a bellwether. No matter how excellent the crew, there’s enough other shit going on that things could go horribly wrong.
Ken
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
HOW IT STARTED: “Look at me! Pay attention to me!”
HOW IT’S GOING: “Ignore me! Leave me alone!”
debbie
@Roger Moore:
Most films are small and shoestring.
gwangung
@Roger Moore: I’m betting most of the producers have only shallow knowledge of movie making, and probably never got their hands dirty in production. All they know is money—which is why the pressure got turned up and so many disasters in waiting were made. Making a movie on a shoestring means you need to be MORE careful and build in more room for mistakes.
Roger Moore
@debbie:
Again, there’s doing things on a shoestring and there’s trying to do more than your budget can cover. Trying to make a $7 million movie on a $7 million budget is stressful but doable. Trying to make a $10 million movie on a $7 million budget will break the people trying to make it and lead to disaster.
frosty
You’re terrible. Sometimes I don’t know whether to laugh or groan. Sometimes both.
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: “Hell, I just dropped my latest cub in a hole in the ground, because dirt was good enough for my Meemaw!”
God, I hate this posturing bitch. So glad I am not going to be in her district any more.
Dan B
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Colbert, I believe, had a set of hood jokes about that Bobert story. It included how he hoped she deep cleaned the truck and why did she use the front seat because, after all, trucks have beds. Audience howled at the deep cleaning quip. Us too.
eclare
@Dan B: Yep I saw that last night.
Gin & Tonic
I just got home from seeing the latest James Bond movie (sue me, I like Bond films) and boy, there’s a lot of gunfire. Wouldn’t be much of a movie without it.
Don’t think that’s a spoiler.
There’s also a couple of scenes on the spectacular Atlantic Ocean Road in Norway, which I would have loved to see in person but just couldn’t fit into our schedule when we were in Norway.
HumboldtBlue
“Wow, old people are so wise, they’re like tall Yodas.”
Nobody in particular
@Nicole:
That’s true. And even now. It’s so durable you’ll even find it in the Wiki.
I majored in Criminal Justice at one point. Like Adam. And most cops would describe their regular shifts as hour upon hour of dull boring routine punctuated by brief moments of stark terror.
Ksmiami
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I hope she can dig her stilettos into Joe and Krysten (not Joe Biden)
ian
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Not to defend that lady, but Rifle is about 2-3 hours from Grand Junction. Now, why she wouldn’t be closer to a hospital when she is about to give birth is anyone’s question, but it is also possible her child was born outside it’s due date. Also, since she has had four kids, one would think she would be more supportive of parental leave, but she also isn’t the most empathetic of people.
Ella in New Mexico
This horrible tragedy has hit our state so hard. I can’t tell you how many folks I’ve encountered in the last 1-2 weeks who are devatstated in some way , shape or form by what happened to to the two individuals who were injured that day. It really hurts. We’re still such a small state that many of us have family, friends or acquaintences who work in this budding “movie making” industry.
Please understand, New Mexico has dedicaged and very qualified folks investigating what happened. But our culture says “Do. Not. Rush. To. Judgement.” This investigation will take more time than the internet demands.
It may take longer than MSNBC, CNN and other 24 hour news cycle media folks want to close this story.
Thank God. Trust that NM will figure this out, and proceed accordingly.
Ella in New Mexico
sorry, injured and killed.
John Revolta
@Gin & Tonic: Wife and I saw it last night. It’s certainly got everything you expect in a Bond flick and then some!
Nobody in particular
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The truck didn’t run. It was up on blocks. No tire, no wheels.
Gin & Tonic
In other news, after hours of trying, my daughter got a vax appointment for her daughter, aged 6. Everyone in the family is delighted, more or less (granddaughter is not good with shots.) On the other hand, my daughter-in law’s mother, R, and her husband, J, and some other members of her family are super anti-vax – which will be a problem when R wants to travel to her condo in Miami, and is already a problem for J, who likes to enjoy life, as it were. He visited his 97-year-old mother in Acapulco, certainly enjoying the nightlife there, and is now down with Covid, reporting an O2 level of 88% this morning. DIL is vaxxed and of course livid at this situation, but has no ability to influence things for the better.
eclare
@Ella in New Mexico: I’m so sorry to hear this. Tragedies always seem to ripple out, like waves.
Nobody in particular
@different-church-lady:
“Live Round” is a term of art. A blank round, with no heavy lead projectile, still has gun powder in the cartridge and a primer and is technically a “live round” with wadding, and one of them killed Jason Lee. The wadding apparently. Without the wadding, it wouldn’t go “BANG!” You could call it a dummy round but we use those also for various reasons. And they have no gun powder in them or primers. And no projectile or wadding. The reason all firearms are treated as if they are deadly weapons is that they are.
Kay
There’s a whole story here we need to know about. They had a QAnon government and then the backlash to the QAnon government?
Citizen Alan
@Ken:
Chekhov’s Gun
Peale
@Kay: who knows how Progessive the new government is. All they have to do is not spend public funds on trips to JFK resurrection events and the town would be better off.
Nobody in particular
@debbie:
Any Mel Brooks film set.
HumboldtBlue
@Nobody in particular:
Patrick O’Brian killed one of his most beloved characters — Coxswain Barrett Bonden — with a so-called blank round during a demonstration of Royal Navy firepower to deceive slave traders off the Bight of Benin. Someone on the other ship had added a piece of round oak to the charge for realism sake.
StringOnAStick
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Her salmonella sliders cafe is in Rifle, an hour and a half at the most from the regional medical centre in Grand Junction. She’s a macho poser in the mould of my right wing nurse oldest sister, who is also into strutting with guns, trucks and evangelical Jesus in that city. I was born there and very glad I left.
Kay
@Peale:
There were QAnon’ers on the hospital board. I wonder what that was like.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@zhena gogolia: Partially filmed in the Montrose section of Glendale.
Sister Golden Bear
@different-church-lady:
Setting aside that guns are never supposed to be left unsecured, that’s why set safety procedures require that the armorer first checks themselves that the gun is clear, and the armorer — and only the armor, not the First AD — personally hands the gun over to the actor, after demonstrating to the actor that either the gun is clear, or else is properly loaded with blanks (and only the exact number of blanks to be fired during the shot).
But to Quinn Cummings’ larger point, it seems pretty clear that:
1) They didn’t have sufficient budget to make the sort of movie desired, especially when it came to proper handling of firearms, since a Western typically has a far greater number of them than other types of movies. Not only should have hired someone who was experienced, someone who was a full-time armorer (and not splitting duties), but they should’ve had firearms tech(s) under them to properly handle the inherent workload.
2) The First AD, who had a track record of playing fast and loose with safety in the past, was probably hired precisely because he was known as a “get ‘er done” type who was willing to cut corners. It should be noted that First ADs are literally the final person responsible for set safety.
@debbie:
There have been three gun-related deaths on set in the past four decades, all of them preventable. It is an outlier.
There are extensive set safety procedures, and mandatory training for union crew members (created after Vic Morrow and two child actors were killed on set). A friend of mine used to teach at the “industry safety school” — and it’s quite literally “no safety certification, no work.” The problem is that the set management in “Rust” as in “Midnight Rider” chose to completely ignore the them.
NotMax
Oy vey.
How is this even legal to do for payment from government coffers to an official domestically? Couldn’t ask/demand to be paid in euros, or yen, or any other foreign currency. Unless coined/printed by the U.S. mint, it’s a foreign currency – and that includes Bitcoin.
NotMax
@StringOnAStick
Have to pass through (in reverse order) Average Junction, So-so Junction and You Call That A Junction on the way?
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Gravenstone
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Bet that kid feels extra special. Conceived in a back seat and popped out 9 months later in the front.
Peale
@NotMax: first mayor paid in stock options and wheat futures.
Nobody in particular
@Sister Golden Bear:
And that was a helo accident during Landis’ filming of The Twighlight Zone. Film sets have to be virtually child-proofed. Guns are probably not the major threat. Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosions: BLEVEs (pronounced BLEVEEs) are the stock and trade of these blockbuster films. They are controlled detonations on film sets but happen all the time in reality from carelessness and negligence. Very dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI45PYFjuz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0jtD_OWLU
Nobody in particular
@Sister Golden Bear:
And that was a helo accident during Landis’ filming of The Twighlight Zone. Film sets have to be virtually child-proofed. Guns are probably not the major threat. Boiling Liquid Expanding Vapor Explosions: BLEVEs (pronounced BLEVEEs) are the stock and trade of these blockbuster films. They are controlled detonations on film sets but happen all the time in reality from carelessness and negligence. Very dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI45PYFjuz8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0jtD_OWLU
Dan B
@Kay: Sequiam (pronounced squim) is a retirement community in the rain shadow of the Olympics. The area has a high vaccination rate and they are on the old school conservative side. QAnon would be noticed because they like their neighborliness.
Jackie
@Gravenstone: I now have spewed wine on my keyboard…
The Lodger
@StringOnAStick: Does anyone else think “bad Sarah Palin imitation” when they see stories like this?
Mingobat (f/k/a Karen in GA)
@Gin & Tonic: I rode the Atlantic Road in 2011 during a two-week solo motorcycle trip. It’s beautiful. Here’s my ride with bonus public-domain music:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n2P_Dqk9vwQ
Now I really have to see the new Bond movie.
dopey-o
The reason is that guns are used as a metaphor for the protagonist’s superior will. Dramatic tensions rise, and the audience’s emotions demand a resolution NOW DAMMIT!
When the gun fires, evil is defeated and a catharsis washes our anxieties away. It’s like that first hit when the coke and vodka smack down a hangover.
Don’t ask me how i know…..
NotMax
@dopey-o
Ugh. Sincerely hope you’re referring to cocaine and not to the brown swill.
;)
Nobody in particular
@HumboldtBlue:
Lucky Jack Aubrey!
Nobody in particular
@StringOnAStick:
Boebert is a bona fide fabulist. I bet she birthed all 4 of them in the OR with an epidural, if not farmed them out.
lowtechcyclist
@Fair Economist:
Also, the DCCC and the party establishment generally threw its weight behind Cuellar in that primary, which probably saved his ass. All Pelosi had to do was drop a hint that next time could be different.
satby
My father, 20 years on the Chicago PD, long time homicide detective, said the same thing.
WaterGirl
@Steve in the ATL: hahaha
RAM
I have been, over the years, ‘involved,’ however peripherially, with at least a dozen film and/or documentary projects. Only one ever got made–not the one for which I got my single IMDB listing as “self,” by the way. The number of people wandering the countryside trying to make random movies is pretty amazing.
J R in WV
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
This slovenly irresponsible vendor of salmonella burgers is way too irresponsible to be holding a seat in congress. What a dumb-ass, to think that giving birth in her PU Truck shows anything good about her life or character. It shows monumental lack of basic care for herself and her kid(s).
Kayla Rudbek
@Roger Moore: “fairy tales tell us that the monsters can be defeated.”