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VERY EXCITING MORNING

by John Cole|  December 15, 20219:28 am| 120 Comments

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About six months ago, I went through my closet and pulled out all the old computer components from the last few years, put them in a pile, and realized I had a very good computer sitting there. In the basement, I had an old tower frame with a solid power source and a bunch of fans. So I called up my buddy Gerald and asked him- “Is it time for Breyana to have a computer for herself?” And he thought on it for a while, and decided yes, they would clear a space for a desk downstairs in the family room and make room for a computer.

Today, after Breyana finishes her final, I am taking her out for a celebratory breakfast. We’re then going to hit a store and pick up a keyboard (I’m pretending it is for me but going to ask her which one she likes and get that one), then go to the tech guys who refurbished my old tower case and assembled everything (I didn’t have the time or energy), and then when we get back from the big city, instead of going to my house I am going to their house and dropping it off and surprising her. I am super excited.

I’m on the hunt now for age appropriate games, so if any of you have a teenage daughter/niece/granddaughter and have thought about this, please let me know what titles you would suggest.

This is my Christmas today!

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  1. 1.

    Mike Molloy

    December 15, 2021 at 9:31 am

    Nice!

  2. 2.

    seaninclt

    December 15, 2021 at 9:32 am

    Roblox. Hello Neighbor. Goat Simulator. Honestly, if you have a decent enough machine, get her an Xbox subscription for like $8/mo. They have a PC only option that she can download tons of games (~200ish) and play at her leisure. But don’t get her hooked on the crack that is dual screens. You can’t ever go back.

  3. 3.

    MelissaM

    December 15, 2021 at 9:32 am

    You are such a wonderful cranky old dude! Gerald and Breyana are fortunate to have you in their lives.

  4. 4.

    debbie

    December 15, 2021 at 9:33 am

    Lucky Breyana!

  5. 5.

    bbleh

    December 15, 2021 at 9:34 am

    Make sure to spring for a current OS if it doesn’t have one and won’t upgrade automatically, and load at least one anti-virus program (free ones tend to be good enough).  Kids’ computers are like toddlers and disease: they’re virus factories.

  6. 6.

    SiubhanDuinne

    December 15, 2021 at 9:37 am

    You are such a good person, John.

  7. 7.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 15, 2021 at 9:38 am

    @seaninclt:

    Goat Simulator. 

    More information needed.  Also, WTF? :)

  8. 8.

    WaterGirl

    December 15, 2021 at 9:38 am

    So the tech guys have already built the new computer?

    I am not a big game person so I have no recommendations, but I bet Breyana would love this:

    Jacque Lawson Advent Calendar

    Every day from Dec 1 – Dec 25 you click on an ornament and you see a fun and beautiful animated scene, and there are several games in the “living room” where you can play the smash the ornaments game, etc.  You can decorate your own tree, and then the tree shows up in the beautiful desktop scene.

    In fact, after hearing Breyana’s voice and her charming laugh on the phone the other day, I think I will buy this for her myself.  I’ll send it to your email and you will have to send it on to her.  Not to worry, it’s only 5 dollars, but you can only buy it if you have a membership for sending cards, etc.

  9. 9.

    ArchTeryx

    December 15, 2021 at 9:40 am

    Be warned that right now decent graphics cards are IMPOSSIBLE to get even for repair and assembly shops.  The only place to get one unless you blindly luck out or fight the mobs hovering over Best Buy are scalpers.  Ask your shop what graphics card they put in and that will largely determine what games the thing will run.

    The chip shortage hit graphics cards first and hardest.

  10. 10.

    John Cole

    December 15, 2021 at 9:41 am

    @ArchTeryx:  I had my backup card I am giving to her.

  11. 11.

    ArchTeryx

    December 15, 2021 at 9:45 am

    @John Cole: Good!  What kind of card is it?

  12. 12.

    wenchacha

    December 15, 2021 at 9:52 am

    You are a good human being, John Cole. Thank you.

  13. 13.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 9:55 am

    John Cole @ Top:

    I’m on the hunt now for age appropriate games

    How old is she? Also, do you know whether or not she has a genre preference – FPS, RPG, Strategy, Flight Sim, Social Sim, etc.?

  14. 14.

    mac8

    December 15, 2021 at 9:56 am

    Stardew Valley is a good game.

  15. 15.

    Chief Oshkosh

    December 15, 2021 at 9:57 am

    Great giving plan. Everyone will be happy. One potential concern, though. When you ask her which keyboard she likes, what if she answers thinking “now which one of these would Uncle John like?” I mean, will she be happy owning a mustard-colored keyboard?

  16. 16.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 9:59 am

    @mrmoshpotato: ​

    More information needed. Also, WTF?

    Pretty self-explanatory — it’s a goat simulator. Here’s a link to the Steam page.

  17. 17.

    Miserybob

    December 15, 2021 at 10:02 am

    Horizon Zero Dawn is out for PC now – don’t know if your PC will run it, though.  I played it on PS4 and loved it.  Set in far distant future, post apocalyptic, robot dinosaur infested Colorado.

    Great young female protagonist, too.

  18. 18.

    seaninclt

    December 15, 2021 at 10:02 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Exactly what it sounds like lol. Best part – you can unlock a devil goat that has a quasi-satanic ritual thing going on.

  19. 19.

    billcinsd

    December 15, 2021 at 10:03 am

    @mrmoshpotato: It started as Mickey Kaus’ Goat Simulator, but then he ceased to matter.

    I was going to recommend GTA but decided that was probably not that great an idea.

    Maybe think about interactive games/novels like A Case of Distrust or the many Edgar Allen Poe story based video games

  20. 20.

    Joy in FL

    December 15, 2021 at 10:03 am

    That is so for you to do this.

  21. 21.

    John Cole

    December 15, 2021 at 10:03 am

    @ArchTeryx: 1080ti

    very capable card.

  22. 22.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 10:05 am

    @bbleh:

    Make sure to spring for a current OS if it doesn’t have one and won’t upgrade automatically …

    Or install Linux, so she can learn it while she’s young instead of developing a lot of bad MS Windows habits.

    I usually recommend Kubuntu for laypeople (i.e., intelligent non-techies).​​​ Maybe convert it to Rolling Rhino, so you don’t have to worry upgrades.​

  23. 23.

    seaninclt

    December 15, 2021 at 10:05 am

    @mac8: No Man’s Sky also… personally, I adored What Remains of Edith Finch. Far and away one of the most clever, original games I’ve seen in a while (all ages btw).

  24. 24.

    rumpole

    December 15, 2021 at 10:05 am

    Every kid’s different, but civilization (pick a number) would seem like a good one.

  25. 25.

    seaninclt

    December 15, 2021 at 10:07 am

    Oh and ofc Minecraft

  26. 26.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 10:07 am

    @John Cole: Nice. That’ll do the trick.

  27. 27.

    stinger

    December 15, 2021 at 10:08 am

    What a great gift for a deserving person. Good luck to Breyana on her final! Also you must enjoy having an emptier closet (for however long that emptierness lasts/lasted).

  28. 28.

    Wvng

    December 15, 2021 at 10:08 am

    It is a measure of your quality as a human being that you are so excited to be doing something nice for someone else. Good for you.

  29. 29.

    Jerry

    December 15, 2021 at 10:09 am

    My kid loooves Roblox/Royale High on the computer. She spends all of her time watching Roblox Youtubers and playing Roblox at the same time. She plays other games, but those are on either her phone or Switch.

    Oh, and she just discovered Genshin Impact on the computer. She’s been loving that one as well.

  30. 30.

    Dave

    December 15, 2021 at 10:09 am

    steam250.com lists the top 250 games available on Steam.  Not all of those are age-appropriate, but off the top of my head, these are probably fine: Terraria, Portal 2, Stardew Valley, Factorio, Slay the Spire, Slime Rancher, A Hat in Time, Celeste, Civ 5, Shovel Knight…

  31. 31.

    matt the somewhat reasonable

    December 15, 2021 at 10:10 am

    Steam has a pretty comprehensive selection of games for Windows PC.

  32. 32.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 10:14 am

    @matt the somewhat reasonable: ​

    Steam has a pretty comprehensive selection of games for Windows PC.

    And most Steam games will run on Linux too now, via Steam Play aka Proton.

  33. 33.

    Dave

    December 15, 2021 at 10:15 am

    Oh, and if you can wait a few days to buy games, Steam is inevitably going to running their annual winter sale.  Most of their catalogue will be on sale, much of it for 50-75% off.

  34. 34.

    Kristine

    December 15, 2021 at 10:17 am

    You’re the best, Cole.

  35. 35.

    Nicole

    December 15, 2021 at 10:21 am

    This makes me really happy. Thanks for sharing, Cole. Our home is entirely Minecraft these days, so other than that I don’t know what these kids are playing on their machines.

  36. 36.

    Tom Levenson

    December 15, 2021 at 10:24 am

    Good man, you are.

  37. 37.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 10:26 am

    Okay, game recs:

    • Horizon Zero Dawn
    • Control​
    • Life Is Strange
    • Undertale
    • Portal 1 & 2
    • Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind​

    _____
    The first five games have a female protagonist, the last can be configured to have one.​​​​​

  38. 38.

    Emma

    December 15, 2021 at 10:32 am

    As an ex-teenaged girl, I loved (and still do) Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

    However, if you want something gore-free…

    Visual novels: The Confines of the Crown, Magical Diary: Horse Hall, Magical Diary: Wolf Hall, Long Live the Queen

    Text adventures: anything by Choice of Games

    Relaxing, decorate your place kind of games: Stardew Valley, Cozy Grove, anything that the Wholesome Games Twitter account suggests. (Also, download Sims 2 with all the expansions for free from one of those game archive sites. It’s clearly the best Sims game, but EA has scrubbed its official existence off the face of the earth.)

    More challenging stuff: anything by Klei Entertainment (personal faves are Invisible Inc. and Griftlands), West of Loathing, Wildermyth, Two Point Hospital, Recettear: and Item Shop’s Tale.

  39. 39.

    endaround

    December 15, 2021 at 10:34 am

    PC game pass. Has Spiritfarer, Unpacking, Sea of Thieves, etc. You may also want to make sure you get an Epic Games account set up to get the weekly free games there.  There are also free games with Amazon Prime through Twitch but that might be a bit more work to get setup.

    Also don’t forget to pick up an Xbox controller

  40. 40.

    Edmund Dantes

    December 15, 2021 at 10:36 am

    @mac8: yep. Stardew Valley is a great one.

  41. 41.

    lowtechcyclist

    December 15, 2021 at 10:38 am

    I’m surprised you need to buy a keyboard, John.  Every time I buy a new desktop computer, it comes with a keyboard and a mouse, and they just pile up in my closet.  (I don’t buy a new desktop that often, but I got my first one back in 1995 so I have several retired or unused keyboards.)

  42. 42.

    Edmund Dantes

    December 15, 2021 at 10:38 am

    @Emma: two point hospital is another fun silly one.

  43. 43.

    BethanyAnne

    December 15, 2021 at 10:41 am

    I love the Mass Effect remastered trilogy, tho the first one is maybe too boring for her. Spyro Reignited is great, as is Katamari Damacy Reroll.

  44. 44.

    lurker dean

    December 15, 2021 at 10:45 am

    great idea, she will be so happy!

  45. 45.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    December 15, 2021 at 10:49 am

    Portal and Portal 2 are very age-appropriate, forgiving of older computer hardware, and awesome on many levels.

  46. 46.

    TaMara (HFG)

    December 15, 2021 at 10:51 am

    I don’t know about anyone else, but Imma gonna need an update on her reaction.

    Watergirl – awesome that you got her the Advent calendar – a friend gets me one every year and I’m really enjoying London this year. Lots of fun stuff.

  47. 47.

    BethanyAnne

    December 15, 2021 at 10:51 am

    And there’s always the re-re-release of Skyrim :D

  48. 48.

    Blue Galangal

    December 15, 2021 at 10:51 am

    I’d recommend a Steam account (if she doesn’t already have one).

    Stardew Valley

    Wingspan

    Depending on her interests, Rimworld is infinitely absorbing and configurable with a great community.

    Of these, Wingspan probably has the highest graphics requirement but it runs on my 6 yo Mac laptop so…

  49. 49.

    gvg

    December 15, 2021 at 10:52 am

    Speaking of keyboards, back when I was working from home, my cat was getting in the way and sitting on mine. I googled for suggestions and a good one was a dummy/sacrifice keyboard on your desk, with your actually hooked up keyboard underneath in the keyboard tray. It seemed like a good idea and I passed it on to my sister when she applied for a work from home job. Its a good reason to keep a spare keyboard. Not 5 spares though(Dad).

    What I actually did that worked for my cat was the cat trap method. Place a box with some papers in it in front of your computer. When can inevitably sits in it, scratch chin and pet frequently while continuing to work. Over the next few days, gradually move box to the side but keep petting frequently. Eventually I had it behind the monitor but easy to pet. She loved that box. Slept in it even after I left the “office” each night. Still sometimes sleeps in it even though I have not been working from home for over a year. My sister liked this idea. Hasn’t heard about the job though.

  50. 50.

    Emma

    December 15, 2021 at 10:53 am

    @Edmund Dantes: yes, I bought it mainly because the archival download of the original Theme Hospital crashed once I got to the higher levels. LOVED the humor and was not disappointed in the spiritual successor.

  51. 51.

    Brachiator

    December 15, 2021 at 10:55 am

    Son of a butch! There is an AWS outage.

    This one is affecting me.

  52. 52.

    Steeplejack (phone)

    December 15, 2021 at 11:06 am

    Is there a test you can run on a (Windows) computer to see if it can handle a certain game, or “current” games in general? Or what’s a general rule of thumb?

  53. 53.

    Central Planning

    December 15, 2021 at 11:06 am

    It was mentioned, but my daughter plays Minecraft a ton so Breyana might like that as well.

    Another one that is age appropriate that my kids like is Factorio.

    I would ask your daughter what games her friends are playing.

    Also, make sure she has a headset with a mic so she can chat with friends on the multi-player games.

  54. 54.

    Bobby Thomson

    December 15, 2021 at 11:11 am

    Yes, Steam, and specifically Portal and Portal 2.  You can search for other games based on genre, reviews, etc.

  55. 55.

    Central Planning

    December 15, 2021 at 11:13 am

    @Central Planning: Doh! I know she’s not your daughter. In paragraph 3, have her ask her friends what games they are playing.

  56. 56.

    guachi

    December 15, 2021 at 11:16 am

    If she is already willing to hang out with you in person why not give her a gift subscription to WoW and have her hang out with you online, too?

  57. 57.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 15, 2021 at 11:17 am

    @John Cole: That’ll work for anything that’s not really really new. And even for brand new games, it’ll run them fine. Good card.

    I’d agree that Stardew Valley is a great choice. If you ever want to play something with her, “Earth Defense Force: World Brothers” is basically a minecraft-looking game where up to 4 players blow up giant monsters in cities.

    If she’s got experience gaming, Subnautica is really good as a story-based survival/crafting game that’s just beautiful.

    As noted by others, Goat Simulator is a super silly game that can be a lot of fun.

    I know a lot of teenagers who really like “Slime Rancher”, so that might also be a good choice for her.

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: Horizon Zero Dawn is one of my favorite games for past couple years, though if she hasn’t played a lot of games it might be too dense for her. But it’s such a great suggestion I can’t believe I forgot it.

  58. 58.

    Geo Wilcox

    December 15, 2021 at 11:17 am

    I get my games from bigfish.com They have thousands of games from solitaire to mahjong to role playing  to time management as well as a ton of hidden object games. They also have coloring games and board games as well

    You buy them and they are yours forever to download on as many computers as you want. So if a current computer dies, you can easily down load them onto a new one at no extra cost.

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    December 15, 2021 at 11:18 am

    You are good people, Cole :)

  60. 60.

    PaulWartenberg

    December 15, 2021 at 11:21 am

    I’m on the hunt now for age appropriate games, so if any of you have a teenage daughter/niece/granddaughter and have thought about this, please let me know what titles you would suggest.

    City of Heroes: Homecoming (underground MMO for superhero alts, would need to install Tequila and download the game that way.

  61. 61.

    Edmund Dantes

    December 15, 2021 at 11:31 am

    @Emma: yeah I loved that. But even my gog.com version was rough to play and they usually have done a decent job getting stuff to play nice.

  62. 62.

    Brachiator

    December 15, 2021 at 11:32 am

    and then when we get back from the big city, instead of going to my house I am going to their house and dropping it off and surprising her. I am super excited.

    Very big hearted, John Cole.

  63. 63.

    creezles

    December 15, 2021 at 11:34 am

    Along with the Portal series, Horizon Zero Dawn, Stardew Valley, Undertale and Deltarune, I’d throw in:

    • HADES. Supergiant Games is a small but fairly popular studio because if nothing else, their games boast stellar artwork, music and writing. Plus, unlike most big-name studios, they seem to know how to run a workplace properly. So I feel good about supporting them by default. But their previous games (Bastion, Transistor, Pyre) didn’t quite work for me in a gameplay sense. Hades does away with that trend. It’s a fantastic action-RPG, based on Greek mythology, and it has so many small little touches of genius I don’t even know where to begin.
    • HEXCELLS. It’s a trio of pure puzzle games by one man, so yeah it looks like it was made on a shoestring budget because it was. Who cares? Imagine if Minesweeper was an actually brilliantly-designed game where you could *always* reason out the solutions instead of having to guess (and often fail)? That’s Hexcells in a nutshell. If you ever find yourself just randomly guessing in a Hexcells puzzle, you’re screwing up. And the difficulty of its puzzles ranges from super-easy to mind-meltingly cruel. The third game Hexcells Infinite also throws in a random puzzle generator for good measure.
  64. 64.

    Rich Webb

    December 15, 2021 at 11:35 am

    @seaninclt: I’ll second No Man’s Sky. Suggest dropping by the subreddit r/NoMansSkyTheGame to get an idea of what it’s like.

  65. 65.

    wu ming

    December 15, 2021 at 11:36 am

    untitled goose game is a fantastic silly game, you get to be an obnoxious goose harassing all the people in a quaint french village.

  66. 66.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 15, 2021 at 11:42 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: Thanks. ?

    Disclaimer

    Goat Simulator is a completely stupid game and, to be honest, you should probably spend your money on something else, such as a hula hoop, a pile of bricks, or maybe pool your money together with your friends and buy a real goat ?.

  67. 67.

    Jerzy Russian

    December 15, 2021 at 11:42 am

    I guess the assumption is that Breyana does not read this top 10,000 blog?

    It would be good if there was a way to install programs/applications that would help her develop an interest in coding.  I don’t know of any myself, but I would hope such things exist.

  68. 68.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 15, 2021 at 11:46 am

    @Brachiator:

    Son of a butch! There is an AWS outage. 

    This one is affecting me.

    Maybe it’s because you are Canad-i-an.

  69. 69.

    laura

    December 15, 2021 at 11:47 am

    Every kid should have a non-relative adult who cares in their lives. Just imagine knowing there was somebody you could count on for fun stuff and not fun stuff. Better worlds are possible and good on ya Blogfather for being ‘that guy.’

  70. 70.

    Leto

    December 15, 2021 at 11:56 am

    @Steeplejack (phone): pc games will recommend a minimum system setup that can run their game. Minimum graphics card needed, minimum RAM, hard drive storage space, as well as operating system. As long as someone follows that, they should be good.

  71. 71.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 15, 2021 at 12:00 pm

    Geraldo! – yup, still an assclown!

    hahahai beg you seanhahahahaha https://t.co/d5nTojm14e— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) December 15, 2021

  72. 72.

    Lyrebird

    December 15, 2021 at 12:05 pm

    @mac8: Yes I couldn’t comment earlier, but I was logging on to suggest Stardew Valley, too.  And I think with a Steam account you can play Minecraft as well?  They have a Game of Life 2 that doesn’t need physical board game.

    I don’t think you need a computer to play That Sky Game, but it is beautiful and fun.

    I don’t recommend Cookie Clicker unless she wants her machine to crash a lot.

  73. 73.

    Brantl

    December 15, 2021 at 12:07 pm

    @ArchTeryx: The bitcoin / bitconn weasels hit it harder.

  74. 74.

    Chris Sherbak

    December 15, 2021 at 12:13 pm

    I have no direct info but I see a lot of Minecraft and Roblox mentioned in connection with kids. Stardew is very popular as well. Steam is a great resource for games but there’s a ton of adult stuff there too. Linux is wonderful but it’s best for new people to have the same OS/setup as people they know (or use at school) to get help/answers.

    WRT to coding, I’d like to plug https://girlswhocode.com/ as someplace to check out if she has any interest at all in that stuff.

  75. 75.

    Edmund Dantes

    December 15, 2021 at 12:15 pm

    @Jerzy Russian: there are a bunch of games that are programming logic.

    when:[] learn as an example (not sure if I got the symbols right)

  76. 76.

    rhetormorrison

    December 15, 2021 at 12:19 pm

    My teenage daughter has become hooked on a game for the first time: Genshin Impact.

    https://genshin.mihoyo.com/en/

  77. 77.

    guachi

    December 15, 2021 at 12:24 pm

    My news feed says BBB is dead and the Senate has moved on to not doing anything about voting rights for the next six months.

  78. 78.

    Roger Moore

    December 15, 2021 at 12:25 pm

    Get a mechanical keyboard.  There’s really no substitute.  If you get a good one, it will far outlast the computer and keep going for the next several PCs.  She can choose which one she likes and which key action is good, but mechanical or GTFO.

  79. 79.

    jeffreyw

    December 15, 2021 at 12:26 pm

    @Brachiator:

    I have some Wyze light bulbs that aren’t working, I hope it’s the AWS outage else I have networking problems.  I would rather they fix it.  Not sure why they want to know when I turn the lights off/on but I’ve noticed some devices are dependent on the internets being up.  I had a router that wouldn’t  let me see my devices unless it was hooked up to my internet feed.

  80. 80.

    anonymous expat

    December 15, 2021 at 12:26 pm

    Autonauts. Resource management game built around the Scratch programming language: programming robots to do all the things turns learning how to program into an actually fun game

    ETA:

    And it’s half price for the next few days, to boot: https://store.steampowered.com/app/979120/Autonauts/

  81. 81.

    Tim Ellis

    December 15, 2021 at 12:28 pm

    Add another vote for Stardew Valley here; excellent game that can be played in many ways and styles, at any pace, fully age appropriate and equally good single player as it is co-op.

  82. 82.

    Tim Ellis

    December 15, 2021 at 12:30 pm

    And if she is into factory games, Dyson Sphere Program is gorgeous and clever and can also be played at any pace. There’s no enemies and really no way to lose, you just keep building bigger and bigger space factories and I’ve never seen a more beautiful game.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    December 15, 2021 at 12:32 pm

    @jeffreyw:

    Yet another reason why IOT is a terrible idea.  Having random stuff in your house stop working right if you lose internet connectivity is really bad.

  84. 84.

    realbtl

    December 15, 2021 at 12:33 pm

    I’d suggest asking Breyana what she wants when you give her the computer.

  85. 85.

    Mel

    December 15, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    Final Fantasy X remaster is a win: 3 female protagonists.

    Add an additional vote for Stardew Valley and for the Portal series, as well.

  86. 86.

    HRA

    December 15, 2021 at 12:47 pm

    You are making a beautiful memory for her that she will always remember all her life. I know this from my remembrance of my Uncle Pete who was my Mom’s cousin. You are a good man John.

  87. 87.

    Almost Retired

    December 15, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:  Oh my, I misread that as “Goat Stimulator,” which would be a very disturbing video game for a child.

  88. 88.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 15, 2021 at 12:48 pm

    @Mel: You mean FFX-2, right? I think the original FFX had… Yuna and the lady who wears 12 belts. Lulu.  And then 4 male characters.

    FFX-2 is a direct sequel and has 3 female protagonists. Whose power is that they can (evidently) change their clothes in combat to change their combat capabilities.

    Fun and great mechanically, but I never though the “dress sphere” job changing mechanic was particularly feminist. Though my female friends loved it, so maybe I should shut up. :)

  89. 89.

    frosty

    December 15, 2021 at 12:51 pm

    @guachi: My news feed says BBB is dead and the Senate has moved on to not doing anything about voting rights for the next six months.

    You need a better news feed. This is not what I’ve read on TPM or any other source.

  90. 90.

    MisterForkbeard

    December 15, 2021 at 1:06 pm

    @frosty: BBB is dead for 2021, since Manchin has slow-rolled it and literally says we should wait despite the obvious problems that’s causing.

    But it’s still planned to continue. Though really, at this point Manchin is just blowing shit up. I don’t think anyone actually knows what he wants to accomplish

  91. 91.

    schrodingers_cat

    December 15, 2021 at 1:18 pm

    B^3 is not dead it just has been shelved for this year. Senate is taking up voting rights legislation first. There is no need to amplify anti-Democratic party talking points.

  92. 92.

    billcinsd

    December 15, 2021 at 1:26 pm

    @wu ming: I was going to post this, and the Mitten Squad try to get through it without honking

    Can You Beat Untitled Goose Game Without Honking? – YouTube

  93. 93.

    Mary G

    December 15, 2021 at 1:28 pm

    My housemate teen has been a joy to watch except when it was terrifying. He’s been here since he was eleven and has now turned 18. His current boss is teaching him how to tile and giving him lots of encouragement. He told me yesterday that his boss and I are the most patient people he knows. It’s nice to make a difference.

  94. 94.

    trollhattan

    December 15, 2021 at 1:42 pm

    My teen-for-two-more-weeks-and-don’t-you-dare-remind-her loves Animal Crossing and its gateway drug “Minecraft.” She likes building things and lording over others.

  95. 95.

    JAFD

    December 15, 2021 at 1:43 pm

    Re keyboards: If any of you are Big People with Big Hands and Big Fingers, check out the More Keyboard – morekeyboard.com

    I’ve had one for a couple of years now.  Won’t say it was the best $69 (plus shipping) I ever spent, but it’s in top ten.

  96. 96.

    RobertB

    December 15, 2021 at 1:43 pm

    @Roger Moore: I second that.  If she wants a cool feature, find one with buckling switches in it.  If you don’t want to dig that hard, buy a Razer.

    I’m using this as my daily driver: https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UB40416 , which I’ve owned since before there were such a thing as Windows keys.  Can also be used as a field-expedient entrenching tool and self-defense softball bat.

  97. 97.

    BethanyAnne

    December 15, 2021 at 1:46 pm

    @JAFD: Oh, that looks wonderful. Thanks!

  98. 98.

    gratuitous

    December 15, 2021 at 1:47 pm

    Edmund Dantes mentioned Gog.com. It’s got a wide variety of down-loadable games to choose from, and if memory serves, there isn’t a sign up fee or monthly subscription charge.

    That being said, I’d suggest Myst, a good game with an absorbing storyline that challenges the player on many levels, doesn’t require killing everything that moves, and several satisfactory puzzles and mini-games that don’t always solve the first time. It’s available on Gog.com.

  99. 99.

    Lyrebird

    December 15, 2021 at 1:54 pm

    @anonymous expat: Ooh thanks for the tip!

    For younger kids, in case anyone else here is reading for additional people, Kodable has done well by us.

  100. 100.

    not_a_cylon

    December 15, 2021 at 1:58 pm

    Echoing the rest: definitely Stardew Valley, Portal 1+2 for the puzzles and story and female protagonist, and Minecraft.

  101. 101.

    Josh R

    December 15, 2021 at 1:58 pm

    My daughter loved ‘My Time at Portia’ which is a light rpg with crafting. Should be on Steam.

  102. 102.

    Grover Gardner

    December 15, 2021 at 2:02 pm

    My daughter is 18 and still loves Feral.  You select an animal avatar and create an environment, play games, win prizes, etc.  It’s an interactive game but is closely monitored. (I think National Geographic still runs it.)  The graphics are very cute but sophisticated enough for older players.  If she likes animals it’s a lot of fun.

    fer.al

  103. 103.

    eclare

    December 15, 2021 at 2:09 pm

    Do you know if Breyana likes computer games?

  104. 104.

    WaterGirl

    December 15, 2021 at 2:12 pm

    @eclare: How will she know unless she tries them? :-)

  105. 105.

    Ukai

    December 15, 2021 at 2:31 pm

    I’m enjoying Dicey Dungeons. It’s a combination of deck-building (e.g., Magic the Gathering, Dominion) and rogue-like (i.e., randomly-generated dungeons) games, wherein you’re an anthropomorphic die battling enemies via dice rolls, with the end goal of defeating Lady Luck to have your greatest wish granted. The gameplay is fun and accessible, the writing is witty, and the soundtrack is catchy as hell.

  106. 106.

    LeftCoastYankee

    December 15, 2021 at 3:05 pm

    I’ll second @Josh R:’s recommendation.

    I played way too much of My Time at Portia during the early parts of the pandemic.  It’s a similar concept to Stardew Valley but with 3D graphics and more depth of experience (IMO).

  107. 107.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 3:25 pm

    @Jerzy Russian: ​

    It would be good if there was a way to install programs/applications that would help her develop an interest in coding. I don’t know of any myself, but I would hope such things exist.

    Yep. Thus my recommendation of Linux above.

  108. 108.

    Martin

    December 15, 2021 at 3:27 pm

    So, my daughter (now 20) likes Horizon, Dragon Age, FF, etc. Also Stardew, Minecraft, (pretending to be an adult) games. Also moe JRPGs. She likes games with character creators, games where she can dress up, etc. Now, that would include Cyberpunk 2077, Code Vein, etc. Generally games where you are forced to play as a male protagonist she dislikes (though she loves Witcher). But JRPGs in general – Persona 5, Legend of Heroes, Fire Emblem, Nier Automata.

    If young teenage, check a review of the JRPG – Witcher has nudity. Some of the JRPGs also do, or run very close to the line.

  109. 109.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 15, 2021 at 3:53 pm

    @Chris Sherbak:

    Linux is wonderful but it’s best for new people to have the same OS/setup as people they know (or use at school) to get help/answers.

    Yes, that’s generally true, and it’s why I have my parents running Windows, but … with kids and computers, I think it’s better to challenge them, and point them in the right direction rather than set them up to do things the same way everyone else does.

    That said, it’s just a suggestion. I could be wrong.

    @Roger Moore:

    Yet another reason why IOT is a terrible idea. Having random stuff in your house stop working right if you lose internet connectivity is really bad.

    And this is why I’m moving to Linux from Windows. Win 11 is going to require an internet connection to operate, and setting up my system such that it won’t start if the internet is down is a deal-breaker to me. I can’t understand why it isn’t a deal-breaker for more people.

    As it is, I’m still running Win 10 about half the time while I figure out how to set some things up in Wine, and Garuda Linux (KDE Barebones spin) the rest of the time.

  110. 110.

    Anon in NC

    December 15, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    Video games are so diverse and you didn’t say what sub-group she’s into. She might like Zelda Breath of the Wild (it’s a console game but it’s the best game ever made), Stardew Valley (7+ farming simulator, super chill), Sid Meier’s Civilization VI (10+ a great 4X game), Terraria (12+ action adventure), Hades (12+ rogue-like with excellent dialogue). Perhaps Dragon Age (rated Mature 17+) series with its excellent storytelling, but that purposefully allows you to make dubious moral decisions and goes heavy on the gore.

  111. 111.

    Emerald

    December 15, 2021 at 4:03 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: I wonder if Manchin thinks he can win again without Democratic votes. Yeah, I know WV is bright red, but he’s a Democrat and he needs at least some votes from Democrats.

    Were I a citizen of West by God Virginia, I’m not sure I could force myself to do that.  Spend money and time instead getting a different red state Dem elected.

  112. 112.

    Emerald

    December 15, 2021 at 4:15 pm

    Games! I tend to be an adventure gamer. If she likes What Remains of Edith Finch (fantastic game!) she might like some other adventures. I’m kinda sorta internet friends with a couple of guys in Cornwall, UK, who make really imaginative adventures as a sideline. So I will recommend a couple of theirs, all available on Steam: Darkfall: the Journal (award winner) and Barrow Hill: Curse of the Ancient Circle. Both are easy to play slideshow presentations with good puzzles and are excellent starter games for the genre. Also they are excellent games. Then, The Lost Crown, which has a sequel looming. Much longer but highly immersive. (It’s 15 years old and has primitive tech, but the imagination and the world it creates will make you forget that.)

    And if she has a sweet tooth, To The Moon and A Bird Story. Very simple and induce happy tears.

    Have fun!

  113. 113.

    Nutmeg again

    December 15, 2021 at 4:42 pm

    (Being late to my daily blog reading) I’ll be the last to add, you are an awesome uncle!  Mexican food, and a computer. Fantastic.

  114. 114.

    GregMulka

    December 15, 2021 at 5:53 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: Did a Ctrl-F to make sure someone mentioned Subnautica.

  115. 115.

    WeimarGerman

    December 15, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    Just one more turn til 3am has to be Civilization 6.  Lots of mods, lots of pseudo-history in the talents of the various Civs.  I like these turn based games because I can always stop ‘right now’ and save if need be, there’s no real-time hurry to it.

    I’ll also add a vote for Dragon Age, but I had it on a console so unsure of it on a PC.

    There is still a playable version of netHack for those of us who remember ASCII screen,  single player D&D from the pre-PC days. It’s a great lesson in how far RPG games have evolved.

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    December 15, 2021 at 6:18 pm

    One older title have not yet seen brought up is The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.

    In a minority but regardless still a fan of ‘choices matter’ FMV* games when they’re well produced, such as

    The Shapeshifting Detective
    Late Shift (judgment call – some might find it borderline unsuitable for younger teens).
    .
    *Full-motion video

  117. 117.

    JAFD

    December 15, 2021 at 7:01 pm

    @BethanyAnne: You’re welcome !

    BTW, Computer versions of the card game Race for the Galaxy are available at

    http://www.keldon.net/rftg/   and

    https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/438698/race-galaxy-ai/page/68   (I think that’s the latest version)

    If any of you are looking for way to waste ten minutes, would recommend this game.  But, as always, YMMV.

    The original rules to the physical game (you’ll probably want them) are at

    https://www.riograndegames.com/games/race-for-the-galaxy/    (and the pages for the expansions)

    and commentary at

    https://github.com/bnordli/rftg/wiki

    (Hope all these URLs don’t send me to limbo)

  118. 118.

    El-Man

    December 15, 2021 at 8:29 pm

    Another plug for Subnautica, and it’s sequel Subnautica: Below Zero. Building/survival/exploration with scary underwater monsters.

    If she likes building, then maybe Cities: Skylines. Tons of DLC, too.

  119. 119.

    SteverinoCT

    December 15, 2021 at 10:32 pm

    Heh. Right now I am reading the blog on my iPad while my old PC resets to factory-default Win10. I copied all I need to my new PC and this one is going to the neighbor’s 7.5 yo. He loves flight simulator, so I’m installing my X version off DVD. My new PC was basically so I could mess around with the newest version. He already has (rather, his dad has) an Xbox, so this is more for schoolwork etc.

  120. 120.

    Origuy

    December 16, 2021 at 1:10 pm

    Sometimes when I want a casual mindless game I’ll crank up a hidden objects game like The Clockwork Man. It’s kind of a steampunk theme with a female protagonist. (on Steam) For more intense sessions, I usually go for strategy games, like the Civilization series. I also played the hell out of Age of Mythology. Those aren’t particularly gory. Not big on multiplayer; I like not being committed to a long session of gaming.

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