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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Sunday Morning Open Thread: Pray for A Modern Miracle

Sunday Morning Open Thread: Pray for A Modern Miracle

by Anne Laurie|  April 17, 20229:40 am| 87 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Russia, War in Ukraine

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— Russian Warship, Go F**k Yourself! ???? (@WiGovPR) April 17, 2022

It's very revealing that pro-Kremlin figures are already explicitly advocating a withdrawal and what really stands out here is the comment – "do we need to get into another Afghanistan, but even worse?". https://t.co/QOQBJmGODg

— Jimmy (@JimmySecUK) April 16, 2022

In fact at this point this is the best possible ending for the war other than Putin getting deposed.

— Noah Smith ?????? (@Noahpinion) April 17, 2022


Main obstacle to this tactic, of course, is that Putin would never accept it. On the positive side, dictators are invicible… until they’re not!

I love how Ukraine's defence minister keeps his Twitter account cheerful https://t.co/dNNdU61UAJ

— Olga Tokariuk (@olgatokariuk) April 15, 2022

New video from Zelensky in moment of exhausted and emotional late night reflection: “52 days. We work (shows speech), we love (family photo), we are thankful (gifted cockerel from destroyed borodyanka flat), we are proud (flag), we will be victorious” pic.twitter.com/kwvfMI6XXX

— Oliver Carroll (@olliecarroll) April 17, 2022

Damn.
Just…damn. https://t.co/hLeiYiwnWU

— soonergrunt ???? A Capybara Appreciation Account (@soonergrunt) April 17, 2022

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  1. 1.

    hells littlest angel

    April 17, 2022 at 9:46 am

    Ukrainian grapes are sour anyway.

  2. 2.

    debbie

    April 17, 2022 at 9:50 am

    We can’t just pray….we must all get involved, in some fashion, to defeat this attack on our democracy!
    Democracy requires participation!
    People in #Ukraine are risking their lives for their democracy; certainly, we can donate, volunteer to protect our democracy! pic.twitter.com/6w1Z4X0AbY
    — Carol (@FiredUpCarol) April 16, 2022\

    (The photo is the best part.)

  3. 3.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 17, 2022 at 9:52 am

    On Solovyov’s program, they started talking about the withdrawal of troops from #Ukraine, because “the army has fulfilled its task”.

    That used to be phrased as “Declare victory and move out.” Bush, with his “Mission Accomplished” appearance, did the first but not the second. And the US forces actually accomplished the initial military victory. The Russians haven’t, but they can portray one on their domestic media.

  4. 4.

    Butch

    April 17, 2022 at 9:53 am

    This text is from a Twitter account called The Eastern Border.  I thought it was worth reprinting:

    Also in the news: Looted stuff stolen by Russian soldiers is now being, in turn, stolen by Russian postal workers. For example, from the 130 boxes that were supposed to arrive to the town of Rubcovsk, only 3 made it there.

  5. 5.

    NotMax

    April 17, 2022 at 9:58 am

    For Easter: Peep shows gone bad.

    Carrying the holiday motif several bridges too far.

    Why oh why? Oh, the chickanity.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    April 17, 2022 at 10:05 am

    Oldie but goody –

    Passover, the Goldberg variation.

  7. 7.

    rikyrah

    April 17, 2022 at 10:09 am

    Good Morning, Everyone???

  8. 8.

    Ohio Mom

    April 17, 2022 at 10:10 am

    That’s what Ohio Dad keeps reminding me — every time I say I can’t see this war ending well, how can Ukraine possibly win, he says, Afghanistan beat Russia.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    April 17, 2022 at 10:11 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  10. 10.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 10:11 am

    kiran joshi (100% Follow Back)@kiranjoshi235
    Wow So Brave
    Heros ??

    It got a little dusty in here.

  11. 11.

    mali muso

    April 17, 2022 at 10:12 am

    Quite the holy-days weekend eggstravaganza.  Yesterday we were guests at our dear friends’ Seder, kiddo went egg hunting first thing today (skipping the church thing tho), and tomorrow we are participating in a local Iftar celebration.

  12. 12.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 10:16 am

    For the first time since 91, all of the world’s major religions have high holidays at the same time, thinking about this over my 5 AM coffee, I was reminded of my grandmother’s funeral, her Presbyterian minister officiated and one of her dear friends a Catholic priest participated. I was one of the pallbearers. On the ride back from the graveyard I asked the two of them whether they would get in trouble for doing the service together. The priest laughed and said, “We both have the same boss, it’s middle management that causes all the trouble.”

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    April 17, 2022 at 10:17 am

    Headlines I don’t like to see.

    Sweden prepares for more clashes as far-right demos continue

    Not so great Danes described within.

  14. 14.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 10:20 am

    @NotMax: Some people have too much time on their hands. Thank dawg. That was fun.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 17, 2022 at 10:21 am

    @Ohio Mom:   Oh, the wind, the wind is blowing, through the graves the wind is blowing, freedom soon will come; then we’ll come from the shadows.

  16. 16.

    Alison Rose ???

    April 17, 2022 at 10:23 am

    @Jager: That’s awesome :) Many years ago, I attended my cousin’s (well, first cousin once removed) wedding, and being that we’re Jewish and her now-husband is Irish Catholic, it was officiated by rabbi and a priest (I assume?? I can’t keep straight what title refers to what type of church official). It was a lovely ceremony with a blend of traditions, and both men made a few jokes about being “coworkers” and such.

  17. 17.

    Alison Rose ???

    April 17, 2022 at 10:25 am

    One day, when all this is over and Zelenskyy is allowed to be a regular person in regular times again, I really hope he decides to become an audiobook narrator.

  18. 18.

    Bex

    April 17, 2022 at 10:28 am

    @Alison Rose ???: I can see him on Colbert’s show…with most of the world watching.

  19. 19.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 10:30 am

    Welp, holiday celebrations are all canceled as family member has cough, temperature (highest 100.6 but averaging around 100), and has had some trouble breathing. Pulse oximeter reading was 96% so so far doesn’t seem to be in dangerous territory. At home Covid test was negative. Triple vaxxed.

    No idea what to do now. It seems a bit unlikely to be Covid as they’re careful about mask wearing and don’t do things that are risky. Maybe it’s something else? Pneumonia? Ugh. Of course it’s a holiday weekend. Also, GP retired recently and “getting a new GP” has been on the list but due to other life things hasn’t happened yet. Of course.

  20. 20.

    Ohio Mom

    April 17, 2022 at 10:31 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I love Leonard Cohen.

    I remind myself that every war ends, eventually. This one will too, and if sadly, Ukraine does not prevail, they will another time.

  21. 21.

    rikyrah

    April 17, 2022 at 10:33 am

    First World problems…

    Washing machine broke. Took awhile- supply chain issues,  and two tries to get one that works to my satisfaction. Had an issue with the spin cycle… Finally got the combination right to get a good spin cycle.

     

    Only to have the sump pump break and the washing machine water flood the basement???

     

    I am so over doing laundry at the laundromat.

    Been sitting here for an hour, just sitting on my bed, going???

    I was so sure that I wouldn’t have to leave my house today, because the new washer and dryer were delivered this week.?

  22. 22.

    opiejeanne

    April 17, 2022 at 10:37 am

    @NotMax: I see what you did there, calling it the Goldberg variation.

  23. 23.

    jackmac

    April 17, 2022 at 10:37 am

    @Butch: The entire country is one giant kleptocracy.

  24. 24.

    TerryTime

    April 17, 2022 at 10:48 am

    @Yarrow: You should assume covid. It’s going around vaxxed and boosted populations who are still being careful, like my household. College student brought ours, first day of symptoms test was negative. Two days later we were all positive.

  25. 25.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 10:49 am

    @rikyrah:

    While we were waiting for our house to be finished (a “couple of weeks” stretched into a month) we used laundromats, after several tries, we found one owned by a no-bullshit, but cheery Asian woman. She lightened up the dreary process. One day a kid came in with a load of filthy work clothes, she watched him load the machines, walked over said, “You don’t know to do this do you?” She then showed him how to sort and properly wash his clothes.

  26. 26.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 10:51 am

    @TerryTime:  Yeah, we’re assuming that and acting accordingly. Isolating, masks, HEPA filters, windows cracked. Just not sure what to do. At least pulse ox is okay. I’m worried about pneumonia.

  27. 27.

    FelonyGovt

    April 17, 2022 at 10:51 am

    Tell me you don’t have Jews on your staff…
    (Menorah and dreidel are for Hanukah, not Passover; no leavened bread)

  28. 28.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 10:53 am

    @rikyrah:  Super frustrating. I know someone who is renovating their kitchen and their oven has been backordered for 18 months.

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 17, 2022 at 10:56 am

    @NotMax:

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    I toured the Technion on a visit to Haifa in 1980. But all they were working on then was boring stuff like figuring out how to desalinise the Mediterranean for agricultural applications. Nothing useful like this. I am, needless to say, disappoint.

  30. 30.

    no comment

    April 17, 2022 at 10:56 am

    @rikyrah: Sorry to hear that.

    Years ago, my husband & I rented a house that had flooding problems in the basement. The sump pump was not powerful enough to deal with the amount of water & sometimes it got overwhelmed & just stopped. A repairman suggested putting in a second sump pump in another area of the basement & letting both run. We were just renting & couldn’t make that call. So the sump pump got repaired, & we crossed our fingers that it would handle the job.

  31. 31.

    Kirk Spencer

    April 17, 2022 at 11:00 am

    @Jager: my first thought was wondering if it was an example of the Vimes metric in action. Instead of boots, how many loads of clothes can you afford to wash and dry? Sure, separating them will keep them better in the long run, but if you can only afford one load that’s what you do to have clean clothes.

  32. 32.

    zhena gogolia

    April 17, 2022 at 11:05 am

    @Yarrow: Oh, I hope things improve. That is worrying.

  33. 33.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:06 am

    @Jager: Oh c’mon… Everybody knows how to separate clothes. The dirty clothes go in one pile, the clean clothes go in a different pile. The dirty clothes pile goes in the washing machine. The clean clothes pile gets pushed into a corner of the bedroom.

    See? Easy peasy!

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    April 17, 2022 at 11:15 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Thanks for the chuckle.

  35. 35.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 11:19 am

    @Kirk Spencer:

    He was doing whites with darks, etc.

  36. 36.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:21 am

    @WaterGirl: That system has been working for me for over 40 years!

  37. 37.

    Benw

    April 17, 2022 at 11:21 am

    @rikyrah: more first world problems: we’re out of baking powder for Easter biscuits. I hit 3 stores this morning and all were out, so I brought bagels home. They were still warm from the oven :)

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:22 am

    @Jager: Hey, after 3 or 4 washes my clothes are all a nice uniform gray.

  39. 39.

    MagdaInBlack

    April 17, 2022 at 11:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Exactly! Except the clean stay in the dryer and are removed as needed.

  40. 40.

    smith

    April 17, 2022 at 11:25 am

    @NotMax: Here’s one dedicated to Ukrainian farmers. Note the little chocolate tank.

  41. 41.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:27 am

    @MagdaInBlack: I never could do that. When I was single the laundromat always insisted I remove my clothes when they were dry. Now I’m married and my wife complains about my monopolizing the dryer for clothes storage.

    People are just so selfish.

  42. 42.

    MagdaInBlack

    April 17, 2022 at 11:28 am

    @rikyrah: You have my deepest sympathy. I despise laundromats.

    Also; had a sump pump die during a heavy rainstorm, while living in garden apartment 2 flat in Melrose Park ( IL)  6 inches of water all through the place. That was fun times.

    This is why I know live in a 3rd floor condo.

  43. 43.

    Lapassionara

    April 17, 2022 at 11:30 am

    @Yarrow: I would be worried if pulse ox goes down below 95%. Do you have any Mucinex D? You have to ask the pharmacist for it, it is not on the shelves. It can help dry out mucus in the lungs.

  44. 44.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 11:32 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    If the clean are in the corner, the dirty in the wash, what the hell are you wearing or do you just buy new?

  45. 45.

    Omnes Omnibus

    April 17, 2022 at 11:33 am

    @Jager: The clothing being worn is neither dirty nor clean. Obviously.

  46. 46.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:35 am

    @Jager: I go nekkid gardening.

  47. 47.

    MagdaInBlack

    April 17, 2022 at 11:44 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Let us not forget the chair which holds the “this can be worn again before washing” pile.

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    April 17, 2022 at 11:47 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: Let me guess… your wife doesn’t let you do her laundry?

  49. 49.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 11:48 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    My college roommate never did laundry, his allowance from his indulgent parents allowed him to buy new underwear weekly. OTH my parents bought me a suitcase, handed me 100 bucks, and said, “See you at Christmas.”

  50. 50.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    April 17, 2022 at 11:51 am

    @Jager:

    If the clean are in the corner, the dirty in the wash, what the hell are you wearing … ?

    His cleanest dirty shirt, of course.

  51. 51.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:51 am

    @WaterGirl: Well, she complains that I don’t do her laundry, but I think if I ever did she’d divorce me.

  52. 52.

    Jager

    April 17, 2022 at 11:52 am

    @OzarkHillbilly:

    You buy DEET by the gallon?

  53. 53.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:53 am

    @Jager: My graduation present was a suitcase.

  54. 54.

    Ramalama

    April 17, 2022 at 11:53 am

    @rikyrah: I feel you. Our laundromat is terrible with machines that only half-work. And while my ville is a one-laundromat kind of place, it’s larger than the surrounding villages, which means when our washing machine breaks, it’s … turtles all the way down. Or something.

  55. 55.

    MagdaInBlack

    April 17, 2022 at 11:54 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: Oh wow, there’s some eye candy for a Sunday morning. We love Kris. Thank you !

  56. 56.

    OzarkHillbilly

    April 17, 2022 at 11:56 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: ​ Sunday morning coming down.
    @Jager: I hate that shit. I just pick the ticks off.

  57. 57.

    trollhattan

    April 17, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @rikyrah:

    I feel for you, we went through that very process last year and the supply complications are no joke. Happy Easter?

    It WILL get better and afterwards, you’ll truly appreciate the whole concept of clean clothes without having to leave the house.

    TBH I think appliances plot against us, collectively. Our washer and dryer coerced the furnace to crap out in a big way New Year’s eve. Took two weeks to get the part (that supply chain thing, again, and an extra two-hundred bucks for “expedited” shipping) so we spent the coldest stretch of winter heating the house with portable electric heaters we panic-bought before the stores closed. That was a fun electricity bill.

  58. 58.

    Iron City

    April 17, 2022 at 12:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Schrodinger’s BVDs?

  59. 59.

    trollhattan

    April 17, 2022 at 12:09 pm

    @Jager:

    That kid was probably me, freshman year. I stared at the top-load washer–the parents had a front-loader–baffled by the very idea of how it might clean clothes. The other thing was the local water hard as rocks and you needed what seemed like an entire box of detergent for one load. Someone took pity on me and explained things, but she probably had doubts about my ability to learn anything, afterwards.

    Could-a changed the oil in her car, though!

  60. 60.

    Chetan Murthy

    April 17, 2022 at 12:34 pm

    @Yarrow:

    No idea what to do now.

    Can you get an at-home test ?  [faster than PCR]  In many states there’s a “test to treat” program, whereby if you test positive, you can get your local pharmacy to deliver a course of Paxlovid to your home.  Maybe ask your doc?  I know that if I got covid, that’s what I’d be banking on.  And you gotta get the course started in the first 5 days of the infection, so gotta get on that pronto.

  61. 61.

    Frank Wilhoit

    April 17, 2022 at 12:36 pm

    @Lapassionara: It doesn’t dry it out…that would actually be very bad.  It thins it and makes it easier to expel.  Once it’s in there, it has to come out.  A productive cough is a good sign.

  62. 62.

    phdesmond

    April 17, 2022 at 12:37 pm

    watching that Zelenskyy video, i had an odd thought.  it reminded me of the early Fidel Castro!

  63. 63.

    JAFD

    April 17, 2022 at 12:39 pm

    Before I left for college, waybackwhen, Father said “You’ll have to do your own laundry, now.  Mother showed you how to go about it, right ?”

    “Yes”

    “OK.  So do it exactly the way she said.

    That way, if something goes wrong, you’ll know who to blame.”

  64. 64.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 12:49 pm

    @zhena gogolia: Thanks, it is worrying, not least because this particular person has a shit ton of other health issues and has been making progress on them but isn’t out of the woods. It’s why we’re so careful.

    @Lapassionara:  Latest pulse ox is at 95 but it seems to be staying about 95/96 so not yet really worrying. Don’t have Mucinex D but do have regular Mucinex. Can see if it’s okay with the other medications. Ugh. So complicated.

  65. 65.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 12:50 pm

    @Chetan Murthy:  The current at-home test was negative yesterday. As I said, the doctor retired and getting a new one was on the list but hadn’t got done yet. Could just randomly pick one, I guess. But it’s Easter Sunday so no one is working.

  66. 66.

    TonyG

    April 17, 2022 at 12:52 pm

    @Butch: Wow.  The United States is a pretty good kleptocracy, but, damn, the Russians have it perfected.  Stealing from the top to the bottom.

  67. 67.

    Chetan Murthy

    April 17, 2022 at 1:08 pm

    @Yarrow: As they say, it can take more than one test, administered at (IIRC) 3-day intervals, to catch it.  Also, maybe call around to your local pharmacies, ask them about “test to treat”?  The reason I suggested asking a doc, was only b/c they might know.  The idea of the program is that you do NOT need to see a doc, to get the course of pills: the pharmacist can sight the test result and dispense autonomously.

    Of course, I haven’t actually done this; I’m just recounting what I read about it.

  68. 68.

    StringOnAStick

    April 17, 2022 at 1:16 pm

    @Frank Wilhoit: Yeah, decongestants that use pseudoephedrine dry up mucus but that means it thickens and is much harder to expell, significantly increasing the risk of bronchitis and pneumonia.  Mucinex is a much better option.  I’ve had doctors tell me they hate the former and to avoid decongestants; also nasal sprays that do the same thing.

  69. 69.

    StringOnAStick

    April 17, 2022 at 1:23 pm

    I’m seeing remarkable parallels between the eliminationist rhetoric of the Putin mob and of our right wing, especially the Christianist subset.  It’s all to give permission for violence against who they oppose, which is us.  That’s the goal of all the “grooming” crap, etc.   Franklin Graham issued an Easter message to “pray for Putin”; the backlash had better be huge.  That Putin, such a Christian he is!

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    April 17, 2022 at 1:34 pm

    @StringOnAStick

    Yeah, most any cough medicine containing Guaifenesin (or labeled Expectorant) will serve, doesn’t have to be Mucinex. Costco sells their own Kirkland brand of pills, labeled Mucus Relief Chest (400 mg Guaifenesin), which work a treat.

  71. 71.

    Anonymous At Work

    April 17, 2022 at 1:36 pm

    Sui Generis of the “Both Sides Trope” at the New York Times:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/17/business/disney-politics-florida.html

    tl;dr Disney facing problems because one side doesn’t think Disney is standing up for oppressed people enough, while the other side is oppressing people and threatening the company with complete ruin for objecting.

  72. 72.

    LivinginExile

    April 17, 2022 at 1:37 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: A little Cohen for Easter?

  73. 73.

    Ruviana

    April 17, 2022 at 2:20 pm

    @phdesmond: Did he talk for four and a half hours?

  74. 74.

    Lapassionara

    April 17, 2022 at 2:49 pm

    @Frank Wilhoit: Thanks. All I know is that it is more effective than the other Mucinex.

  75. 75.

    jonas

    April 17, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    @StringOnAStick:  I saw Twitter light up yesterday with a bunch of outraged hot takes on Graham’s comments. I looked at what he said and it appeared to be a fairly conventional evangelical “pray for your enemies” sentiment, a bit like Pelosi’s observation a few years ago that she prayed every day for Trump (not to fuck everything up). Graham is a talibangical nutbar, but he’s not really simping for Putin here.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    April 17, 2022 at 3:02 pm

    @jonas

    Studies have shown an average Tootsie Roll Pop lasts 25% longer than does average Twitter outrage.

    //

  77. 77.

    Yarrow

    April 17, 2022 at 3:02 pm

    @Chetan Murthy:  Thanks for the info. I will have a look and see if “test to treat” is available in my area. I know a lot of places are closed today. I think we might do another test tonight/tomorrow morning. In retrospect the symptoms might have started on Thursday but were so mild as to be nothing you’d even think about, like occasional throat clearing and tiredness. The two days prior had been absolutely crazy busy and very stressful so the tiredness was easily explained that way. It wasn’t until Friday night when it became a little more obvious that there might be more to it. Then negative test yesterday and symptoms worse today. So could this be Day 4? Who knows.

  78. 78.

    Ishiyama

    April 17, 2022 at 3:09 pm

    @phdesmond: “La historia me absolvere”?

  79. 79.

    phdesmond

    April 17, 2022 at 3:46 pm

    @Ruviana:

    Zelenskyy is more succinct.  there was more to Fidel’s speeches than length.

  80. 80.

    phdesmond

    April 17, 2022 at 3:52 pm

    @Ishiyama:

    exactly that sort of comment, yes.

  81. 81.

    Wapiti

    April 17, 2022 at 4:01 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: My nephew’s view is that one should get an apartment with a washer and dryer. Dirty clothes go in the washer. Clean clothes are in the dryer.

  82. 82.

    Ishiyama

    April 17, 2022 at 4:04 pm

    @phdesmond: How about Ho Chi Minh: “Nothing is more important than independence and freedom.”

  83. 83.

    Wapiti

    April 17, 2022 at 4:06 pm

    @Jager: My dad tells of sending his laundry home, in a duffle bag on Greyhound, for his mother to wash. I just shake my head.

  84. 84.

    Wag

    April 17, 2022 at 4:45 pm

    @Yarrow:   There should be an urgent care clinic open where you can retest.  Given your symptoms I’m suspicious you may have had a false negative home test.

  85. 85.

    phdesmond

    April 17, 2022 at 5:10 pm

    @Ishiyama: that’s an uplifting thought, too!

    Ho was noted for his poetry.

  86. 86.

    wetzel

    April 17, 2022 at 6:26 pm

    Shout out to fully cast iron sump pumps. Get the $300 Zoeller from Lowes, or at least one of the better Wayne pumps. The cheaper pumps have HDPE parts which will not last.

    Be sure to drill a weep drain using a 3/16″ drill-bit between the back-flow valve and the pump. Most directions don’t call for it, but trapped air fouls a lot of pumps.

    We replaced four in fifteen years, which explains my detailed knowledge of this thing which can go wrong. I am expert on all the things that can go wrong with a house. One day we will get our house back to ‘fair’ condition. I can write a Southern gothic novel about soffet and fascia boards.

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    Chetan Murthy

    April 17, 2022 at 7:13 pm

    @Yarrow: It’s all so …. probabilistic, isn’t it?  But at-home tests are cheap (though sure, if you can manage to get a PCR test, do that too) and apparently in copious supply these days.

    Fingers crossed, it’s just a bad cold.

    Also, the reason for the 5-day window is that after a certain point, the antiviral med doesn’t do any good; but it doesn’t hurt either, so if it were me, I’d keep pushing to find out a diagnosis, and just hope that if I were positive, that the antivirals would work.  I mean, the rate of onset is also a variable factor in different people: so somebody in whom the infection comes on slow, might also be someone who can benefit from the antiviral later in the course of the infection.

    I’d just keep trying to figure out whether I was positive, and see if I could line up a course of the antivirals.  Maybe I wouldn’t need it after all, so a bit of effort wasted, but that’s all.

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