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Saturday Evening Open Thread: … Second Time, As Noisy Farce

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Reagan started his presidential campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi to let his potential voters know he was a big fan of institutional racism. TFG wants to start his latest grift-rally in Waco, Texas to let his supporters know: After Trump (ME!), the world ends.

Helpful little coda from the Mar-A-Lardo Court Jester:

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    Honestly, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Trump has no idea what Waco signifies or when it happened. Lest we forget, this dude looked directly into the sun during the eclipse.

  2. 2.

    bbleh

    I hope people are loading up on strings of firecrackers, just to liven things up for him.

  3. 3.

    Almost Retired

    The Bundy Ranch would be a great place for a future outdoor Trump event — call it MAGAstock or Burning MAGA.Ā  Hopefully with less nudity.

  5. 5.

    bbleh

    @Alison Rose: I give it better than 50-50 he looked because people told him not to.

    As to Waco, concur he didn’t know, but now he has some idea from the aide who sold it to him as totally brand-enhancing.

  6. 6.

    Another Scott

    @Alison Rose: +1

    We know that all he cares about is himself and he certainly is not a student of history.

    But whoever actually picked the place might have noticed the symbolism.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  7. 7.

    Chris Johnson

    @Alison Rose: Putin does. Those who are running Trump know what they’re doing.

    This whole time he was just meant to be a spur to domestic terrorism. He still is. I’m curious if he’s more effective at that alive, or dead.

    If I was him I’d want all the Secret Service, and would be more nervous than Joe Biden about it. If Putin wants him to be a martyr and the rightwingers to all go totally insane, then Trump is a dead man walkingā€¦ or at least that is what people would’ve believed before the debacle in Ukraine.

  11. 11.

    Scout211

    @Alison Rose:Ā 

    I think you are correct. He probably isnā€™t aware of the significance but someone on his team sure is.

    Maybe he thinks heā€™s going to Waco so he can hang out with the very famous Chip and Joanna Gaines. That would get him there. Ā Carrot, stick.

  13. 13.

    Anne Laurie

    @Alison Rose: Honestly, it wouldnā€™t surprise me in the least if Trump has no idea what Waco signifies or when it happened. Lest we forget, this dude looked directly into the sun during the eclipse.

    Certainly his handlers knew.Ā  Only question in my mind: Did they *want* to incite comparisons?Ā  Or did they tell him why ‘the optics’ were bad, so TFG demanded the rally go ahead anyway?

    Me, I’m assuming it was intentional (see: Reagan, Philadelphia), but if things go badly, the marketeers will absolutely pretend it was all The Big Guy’s fault.

  14. 14.

    Scout211

    @SiubhanDuinne: Yikes.

    After reading his truth social screed, I was wondering if you have to pay extra on Truth Social for paragraphs. Ā Run-on sentences will save money in paragraph fees.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    @Alison Rose: Are you kidding? If Rs win in 2024, Putin wins in Ukraine. Ā He may not care about Trump personally, but I think Putin sure as hell continues to think that all roads to Putin success go through Republicans.

  16. 16.

    Gvg

    I don’t think Trump wants to end up dead. He doesn’t care if a bunch of his supporters die, probably thinks it would inflame the rest but….so far the only people in prison are the little dupes and some of them have noticed that. Also most of them don’t want to be martyrs tho they don’t mind if a few others are so….i wonder if most of them might be saying lets stay home for this and watch. They also don’t have as many delusions that law enforcement and the military are going to all support them now.

    Waco might be too bloody a history to invoke.

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    Trump playing with fire as usual, not caring what he burns down. Ā I imagine that the creepy guy behind Trump ā€“ whose idea it was to have the first campaign rally in Waco ā€“ is hoping his rally will light a fuse and turn it into Biden’s Katrina.

  19. 19.

    Jeffro

    Gosh I’m so sorry he has ‘anxiety’ over being arrested!

    I’ve had “trump and his enablers destroy my country completely” anxiety for going on eight years now.

  21. 21.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Chris Johnson:

    Those who are running Trump know what theyā€™re doing.

    Assumes facts not in evidence.Ā  Nothing about Trump’s behavior post-presidency has demonstrated intelligent guidance.

    If Putin wants

    The intelligence reports were clear that Putin is not directly in charge of Trump because he doesn’t have to be.Ā  Trump causes the chaos Putin wants.Ā  While Trump was president, Putin could ask for favors occasionally, but Trump was great at doing things Putin wanted because Trump also wanted them.

    As for the OP, I could see it being deliberate, and I could see it being an accident.Ā Ā  I could see Trump knowing the date and significance, because as dumb a fuck as he is, he’s a Nazi, this is his area of interest, and it happened during a period when he was more cognitively functional and paying attention.Ā  We know the 80s were hugely formative for him.

  22. 22.

    geg6

    @Scout211:

    Sad thing is that the Gaines may well be there. Ā Heā€™s a nutso Baylor grad and a former athlete there and they belong to some church filled with crazy Talebangicals.

  23. 23.

    piratedan

    will say this, 45 may or may not understand the significance of Waco, but somebody over on the right is driving this optics bus and at this point I refuse to believe that any of the choices made are coincidental.

    Kind of like a GOP equivalent of Grima Wormtongue, someone is filling ears suggesting this shit from their erstwhile puppet masters and all of this messaging is NOT lost on the armed and dangerous.Ā  They’re still trying to recreate Reichstag moment.

  24. 24.

    bbleh

    @SiubhanDuinne: Hey now, many Heartland Americansā„¢ are of German extraction and celebrate holidays with Stollen even if they’re still struggling to own a home of their own and have to stay at boarding houses! Ā Why do you hate hard-working Heartland Americansā„¢ so much?

  26. 26.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @WaterGirl:

    Trump playing with fire as usual, not caring what he burns down.

    The fact that he is still running around free to do this is a problem. That is why I think all the delays and procedural motions and appeals go too far to delay prosecution. I get they are there to protect the innocent. There need to be some things in place to give innocent people the opportunity to contest a false conviction. However, our current system goes too far and the result is that people like Trump are freely flouncing about around being arsonists. Our system needs a better balance between protecting the accused and protecting the public.

  27. 27.

    Warblewarble

    . As long as there is tRUMP there will be turmoil , therefore let there be fire. Waco is a perfect stage from which tRUMP could make a fitting exit. If putin wants to set America ablaze, never will the opportunity. and setting be more perfect.

  30. 30.

    MattF

    Trumpā€™s latest outbursts (see above) on his own social network are simply and flatly delusional. Even putting aside the recent ALL CAPS feature. Heā€™s all the way through the looking glass and indulging in tea parties with animals in the backyard garden. Will the Republic survive? Stay tuned.

  31. 31.

    Geminid

    @Scout211: Waco also has the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum. It’s on the other side of town from the airport, though. That’s where the rally will be.

    There is a site with mammoth bones that’s closer to the airport. I think Trump should go pay his respects. He kind of reminds me of a Wooly Mammoth

  35. 35.

    Mike in NC

    When Trump was taken by boat to the USS Arizona Memorial, he had to ask his chief of staff. “What happened here?”

    Yes, I 100% believe that dimwitted pigfucker didn’t know about December 7th.

  36. 36.

    Alison Rose

    @Mike in NC: Ew, gross, that means I once stood in the same place as he once stood. Many years earlier than him, but still. Yuck. Also, God what a fucking doofus. And I’m sure he didn’t give a shit. I remember being incredibly affected by the place. I doubt he was one iota.

  37. 37.

    bbleh

    @brantl: GOFC. I can’t help but hear the young Michael Jackson

    T-F-G
    the G-O-F-C
    New York detainee
    T-F-G-G-O-F-C he’s a detainee of the USG whoo!

  40. 40.

    KrackenJack

    Can’t can wait for TFG to go on about how the Brunch Davidians were just minding their own business out here in Wacko…

  41. 41.

    Viva BrisVegas

    @KrackenJack: How is it that the Right is always on the hunt for “pedos”and “groomers” yet somehow manages to overlook creeps like Koresh?

  42. 42.

    catclub

    @Scout211:Ā ā€‹
     

    I think you are correct. He probably isnā€™t aware of the significance but someone on his team sure is.

    Same person who coined “America First ” for him.

  45. 45.

    Mel

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I know! I nearly spit out my coffee when I saw those.

    Oh, those pesky anarchists, always overthrowing governments by tempting voters with tasty German fruit breadsā€¦

  46. 46.

    Kent

    I lived in Waco for 13 years.Ā  The airport is a completely dumbass place for a rally.Ā  It’s just a tiny regional airport that doesn’t even have a very big parking lot.Ā  I don’t get it.Ā  There are 100 better places in Waco to hold a rally.Ā  Holding a rally there is like holding a rally in a strip mall parking lot.Ā  Ā  If they have more than say 200 people show up there will be no parking and since it is in the middle of nowhere, no place to park and walk.

    This is it on google street view.Ā  https://goo.gl/maps/k9JWND3ws7QjC9uj6

  48. 48.

    Anne Laurie

    @Kent: The airport is a completely dumbass place for a rally.

    On the other hand, it’s unlikely TFG will be involuntarily trapped there if the violence he craves does break out.

    Also, given how his campaign is notorious for stiffing event sites, it might be the best his handlers could do without putting down a steep deposit that TFG wouldn’t want to lose, even assuming he’s good for it.

  49. 49.

    Shalimar

    @Frankensteinbeck: There has been gossip that Steven Miller has been writing the rambling speeches that Trump has giving in the last 6 months.Ā  Steven Miller is exactly the kind of neo-nazi who knows the importance of setting an event in Waco near the 30th anniversary.

  50. 50.

    Shalimar

    @Anne Laurie: Trump was doing a lot of airport rallies in 2020 for just that reason.Ā  He couldn’t get crowd control in most cities for anywhere else because they know he doesn’t pay bills, but they couldn’t stop him from landing at the airport and giving a speech.

  51. 51.

    Shalimar

    @NobodySpecial: Agreed about Miller, all the way down to focusing on writing the hate speech while someone incompetent handles the details like picking a terrible location.

  52. 52.

    Shalimar

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I agree with mvr.Ā  The real problem is the entire system including criminal justice protects the 1% from any repercussions for their crimes or failures.Ā  If you can’t afford a good lawyer, you get almost no protection.Ā  The system is an assembly line to fill the prisons.

  55. 55.

    J R in WV

     

    So Maggie Haberman, paid Trump apologist, writes:

    Hard to overstate how much anxiety Trump, who was first criminally investigated in the late 1970s, has around the possibility of being arrested

    So why did Trump keep committing crimes for the past 40+ years?Ā  Does Maggs mean that the threat of criminal prosecution does not inhibit criminal behavior? Surely not!

    What a sorry situation Maggs finds herself in — covering the actions of a despicable criminal, instead of a genius level political leader! What a great career she faces — at least she doesn’t face subpoenas and grand jury testimony leading to a federal criminal indictment… or does she?

    Who can tell at this point.

    Just asking questions, right!??

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