Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

White supremacy is terrorism.

“And when the Committee says to “report your income,” that could mean anything!

We still have time to mess this up!

Nothing worth doing is easy.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

Bark louder, little dog.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?

No one could have predicted…

This blog will pay for itself.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

Proof that we need a blogger ethics panel.

I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

It’s always darkest before the other shoe drops.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Never entrust democracy to any process that requires republicans to act in good faith.

Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

Ah, the different things are different argument.

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… He will be formally arrested and arraigned Tuesday in his hush money case, setting the scene for the historic, shocking moment when a former president is forced to stand before a judge to hear the criminal charges against him.

The indictment remained sealed and the specific charges were not immediately known, but details were confirmed by people who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss information that isn’t yet public.

The streets outside the courthouse where the arraignment will unfold were calm Friday compared with earlier in the week. There were no large-scale demonstrations for or against Trump, though tourists stopped to take selfies and throngs of reporters and police officers remained assembled.

When Trump turns himself in, he’ll be booked mostly like anyone else facing charges, mug shot, fingerprinting and all. But he isn’t expected to be put in handcuffs; he’ll have Secret Service protection and will almost certainly be released that same day…


Can’t blame Graham for his tears — all those hours of trudging around mediocre golf courses, laughing at bad jokes, wasted! He’s not a young man, how is he supposed to compete against the new generation of feral GOP coat-holders all clamoring for a new host?…

Well-Earned Schadenfreude Open Thread: C U Next Tuesday, Fer Realz

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  1. 1.

    Princess

    I dunno,  if they didn’t want him to be indicted, maybe the GOP shouldn’t have nominated a crook to run for President.

  2. 2.

    Ken

    I can’t see a plea deal happening, since those normally involve the defendant standing in front of a judge, admitting guilt, and confessing remorse; and that’s not something Trump would do. But it is fun to speculate who he’d incriminate as part of a plea bargain.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    I am still recovering from my much-more-than-mild disappointment that I was traveling (and therefore, AWAY FROM MY BOTTLE OF TRUMP INDICTMENT DAY CHAMPAGNE THAT I’VE BEEN SAVING SINCE FOREVER) when Indictment Day finally happened.

    However, I made it back home two hours ago.  Bottoms up, peeps!!

  4. 4.

    mvr

    @Jeffro: Having the bottle w dinner that we bought last night for the occasion but then decided to go out instead.

    My substantive point is that all the talk of how shocking this is really misses what is shocking.  It should have been perfectly predictable that someone who commits crimes in public and shows no respect for the law eventually winds up in legal trouble.

    The only surprising thing is how long it took.

  6. 6.

    mvr

    @mvr: Also, I believe in innocent until proven guilty as a legal matter. But I also believe in the things I see, and that means I can be glad this guy is finally paying the price for some of what everyone knows he did, even while thinking the courts should do their thing in the appropriate way, granting him that status until he is convicted.

  7. 7.

    Shalimar

    Republicans are going to be so sad when George Soros dies.  They’re gonna have to pick a new evil Jew.

    No, wait.  They still blame Hugo Chavez for things and he has been dead for 10 years.  Ditto with Acorn, deceased 12 years.  God the MAGA base are gullbile morons.

  8. 8.

    Jeffro

    I just want to say one last time* (prompted by that second-to-last tweet about trump cutting a plea deal) that I still just cannot shake the image/dream/hope/whatever of trump sitting at that classic beat-up wooden table in a police interrogation room, confessing to everything** in an effort to avoid being thrown  in the slammer and losing his entire fortune***.

    * I swear

    **yes EVERYTHING: which GOP elected officials are compromised by Putin (besides him), everything he has on Graham and Dershowitz, his many tax scams, what Putin told him in Helsinki, and more

    ***yes I know he doesn’t have a fortune but he thinks he does, somewhere

    sigh

    And with that…I’m just going to let it go.  Fever dream?  Prescient vision?  Or just a nimrod babbling into his keyboard?  Only the great goddess Karma knows for sure.

  9. 9.

    Dan B

    And for Seattle area Juicers there is an indictment evening meet-up at 6 PM.  Details in the sidebar or, on mobile, at the bottom of the page.  Address at skinluvvers at gmail dot com.

  10. 10.

    Scout211

    @Ken: I can see him plead to a (much) lesser crime.  But only after all the delays and filings have played themselves out over a long period of months

    He would have to pay a fine but not have to do any jail time. He could pretend he beat the charges and outsmarted the Soros-back DA.

    But since IANAL, I’m just speculating and have no real clue how this will go. I’m just happy that it’s going.

  11. 11.

    MagdaInBlack

    I’m pretty intrigued with the Ragnorok Lobster tweet and his suggestion trump is going to implicate every GOP leader when he starts running his mouth. Won’t that be fun!

  12. 12.

    p.a.

    Heh, he’s stupid enough to start off trying to give up his associates at the time to get off/lighten the charges.  That would have a great effect on his current entourage.

  13. 13.

    Shalimar

    @Scout211: Trump settled the Trump University case quietly after swearing he never would.  Ditto with the case against his charity.  The only reason he has never plea bargained a criminal case is because this is his first indictment.

  14. 14.

    Roger Moore

    Remember, if they can belatedly indict The Crime Guy for one of his many, many obvious and highly public crimes, they could do the same thing to you.

    The whole thing about “if they can come for Trump, they can come for you” is just so bizarre to me.  It’s like the quote about how a government powerful enough to give you everything you need is powerful enough to take everything you have.  Well duh.  One of the most fundamental roles of government is to provide justice, and that means providing justice even when the criminal is rich and powerful.  In other words, the government has to be able to take on the rich and powerful and take everything they have just in order to qualify for the most basic level of function.

  15. 15.

    Jeffro

    PS: lost in all the trump hubbub: a major GOP fundraiser just got found guilty on several counts of sex trafficking minors:

    Lazzaro’s indictment touched off a political firestorm in the Republican Party of Minnesota. He had donated roughly $190,000 to Minnesota Republicans.

    FBI agents raided Lazzaro’s downtown Minneapolis condo in December 2020. Inside his $875,000 place at the luxury Ivy high rise, investigators seized nearly $400,000 in cash, along with foreign currency and bars believed to be gold. They found a GPS tracker, thumb drives, laptops, tablets, and more than a dozen cell phones. Agents also confiscated his Ferrari.

    By all accounts, Lazzaro was living large until the raid, which was linked to allegations of sex trafficking minors. His social media shows pictures with a* president and high-ranking politicians. Flashy cars, cash and private planes are splashed across his accounts.

    *Guess which president, and guess which party the high-ranking politicians are members of?

  16. 16.

    Jeffro

    @MagdaInBlack: this is what I mean – he does, in all likelihood, have some very valuable dirt information to trade in exchange for avoiding jail time!

    Who’s most worried about this?  I’m going to guess both senators from Kentucky, Rubio, Graham, McCarthy.

  18. 18.

    bbleh

    I may be wrong, but I think this is the dam finally breaking.  The stories won’t stop.  Next will be the details of the indictment.  And then there will be the usual everything-and-the-kitchen-sink attempts at delay and obfuscation, which I expect will be dealt with quickly and brutally since TFG is already busy self-sabotaging with his public comments about the judge.  And hard on the heels of this indictment is expected to come a Fulton County indictment (unless the GA Lege manages to torpedo it somehow).  And then there’s the Carroll suit, and the NY State suit.  And looming behind but approaching inexorably like a thunderstorm, the twin investigations of Jack “Sure That’s His Real Name” Smith.

    It’s going to be Christmas for months for the media.  Live by the sword etc ..

    Oh, and as to pleading out, I can’t see it.  What would he have to gain? The penalties here, even if it’s successfully upgraded to a felony, are comparatively minor.  “Trump Admits Guilt In Criminal Case” would be far worse imo.

  19. 19.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Biden, speaking to us before departing for Mississippi, declined to comment three times on Trump indictment

    “Truly I say to you that this night, before the hour of the cock’s cry, you will say three times that you have no knowledge of me.” Coincidence? I don’t think so.

  20. 20.

    Ken

    @Roger Moore: “If they can go after the BTK serial killer for binding, torturing, and killing multiple victims, they can go after anyone for doing the same!”

    But I suppose it takes a moment’s thought to spot the flaw, and that argument isn’t really targeting people who think.

  22. 22.

    Sanjeevs

    What’s the reason for sealing the indictment?

    if you’re the DA wouldn’t you want this out there right from the start?

  25. 25.

    different-church-lady

    I’m still kinda gobsmacked that the thing that’s going to take him down…

    …isn’t having an affair with a porn star

    …isn’t paying hush money to a porn star

    …it’s paying hush money to a porn star the wrong way.

  30. 30.

    Another Scott

    @Ken: Plus, we know from the stolen documents found at MaL that he won’t take a lifeline when offered.  He’ll try to bluster and power through everything.  If/when he’s convicted, he’ll appeal.  When he loses the appeal, he’ll appeal that.

    He’ll try to run out the clock, hoping that President Baked Alaska pardons him.

    He thinks he can wait out everyone else, and all punishment.  Because he always has thus far.

    The denouement should be interesting.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  31. 31.

    dmsilev

    @bbleh: No way does he plead out. He’d look weak, which is about the worst possible thing for him. Knuckling under to that Totally Biased And WitchHunting DA, who is funded by (((Soros)))? Never.

  32. 32.

    Dan B

    More good news from Texas.  A TFG appointed judge has ruled that banned books must be returned to libraries.  Is Ron Death Sentence nervous?  Looks like a lot of losses, loser!

  34. 34.

    mrmoshpotato

    @MagdaInBlack:

    I’m pretty intrigued with the Ragnorok Lobster tweet and his suggestion trump is going to implicate every GOP leader when he starts running his mouth. Won’t that be fun! 

    Oh c’mon!  It’s not safe (or inexpensive) to drink that much champagne!

    Indictmentpaloozaloser 2023!

  37. 37.

    bbleh

    @different-church-lady: oh I don’t disagree!  But then, the “grab-em-by” tape should have done it.  But as noted elsewhere, I think we underestimated the degree to which Republicanism has degenerated into little more than raging Id.  And Trump not only got away with these things, they actually helped him because of that.  (He really is much more symptom than cause.)

  38. 38.

    Ken

    @dmsilev:

    1. Make sure your accounts conform to GAAP.
    2. Do not use funds in violation of campaign finance law.

    Though that’s only the current guess, based on what the grand jury was ostensibly investigating. With 30+ charges in the indictment, it appears that a few other things came to light when they started looking at the books.

  39. 39.

    piratedan

    @mrmoshpotato: to be fair, it would TOTALLY be in character for him to underbus anyone and everyone who was involved.  DJT only has loyalty to two groups, his own raging Id and to VVP, who apparently owns his soul.  Everyone and everything else is “fungible”.

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    Speaking of schadenfreude, I love the current lead headline at the Post: ‘Secret Service tours N.Y. courthouse to prepare for Trump arraignment’.

  43. 43.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    PS: lost in all the trump hubbub: a major GOP fundraiser just got found guilty on several counts of sex trafficking minors: 

    Groomers Or Pedophiles

  44. 44.

    Jeffro

    @N M: You know, I haven’t asked them and I’m not sure I’m going to.  My dad will probably revert to whataboutism (Hillary, Hunter, etc) and my brother will probably talk about how the GOP will go for payback times eleventy (heh heh, you’re gonna get yours libs) so I’m not sure what good it would do.

    I might do it just to see if my guesses are correct.

    One thing’s for sure: when I told them back in late 2015 that if they didn’t do their best to kneecap trump and stand up for actual conservative principles*, he would keep leading them further down the spiral and every six months, they’d be in a place they could never have imagined just a half-year prior (if that makes sense).  Just endless debasement and embracing ever more degrading acts by this corrupt goon.

    Well, here we are, something like fifteen(!) of those cycles later and they’re not exactly burning up my phone lines to tell me I was right all along.

    White male supremacy is a helluva drug.  And the inability to admit that one was wrong, buttressed 24/7 by the FoxBubble in my dad’s case and RWNJ blogs in my brother’s case, is stronger than steel.

    If I ask them, though, I’ll report back

    *yes, I know it should be “principles”

  45. 45.

    Jackie

    Just watched Rachel Maddow; she covered Spiro Agnew resigning from office. Interestingly, to avoid prosecution, Agnew agreed to never run for office again.

    Would TFG agree to such an agreement to avoid being found guilty? Maybe not the Manhattan case, but if indicted in Federal Court for the MAL stolen documents and/or for inciting the J6 insurrection?

  48. 48.

    Jeffro

    @mrmoshpotato: spot on

    Something about this case really makes me want to tweak my RWNJ relatives about it.  Maybe I’ve just had it with all the false accusations and offensive comments that GOP officials have been making towards Democrats and have reached my breaking point.

  57. 57.

    Dangerman

    @Ken: If Trump is facing time, there is only one person he wouldn’t give up: Ivanka. Melania? Jerod? Junior? Eric? Barron? Give them up in a heartbeat.

    Then again, maybe he goes to the Gray Bar Hotel. Can we sneak in a pair of chopsticks and tell him it’s a file? Sneak in a Tennessee Ernie Forward look alike?

    That’s from an old I love Lucy show.

    ETA: I love Lucy, “Tennessee Bound”

  59. 59.

    Citizen Alan

    @Dangerman: It is a testament to how utterly degenerate this family is that I think, if what you say is true, it’s only because Ivanka actually has video evidence of him sexually assaulting her back when she was a child.

  60. 60.

    Jackie

    @dmsilev: I think it involved legal paperwork and such. I’m pretty sure TFG would be held to the same legal requirements Agnew was held to. And more!

  62. 62.

    Urza

    I hope the judge starts off with a gag order for him saying anything remotely violent, along with anyone known to be associated with him on threat of immediate jail time for him and the associate.

    Also, open up saying you can replace any 2 lawyers you want, after that you represent yourself for the remainder of the trial.

  63. 63.

    HumboldtBlue

    This Iowa v South Carolina matchup is moving into classic territory, and Caitlin Clark is an assassin.

  67. 67.

    Subsole

    @Jeffro:

    Whatever it is, you are not alone with it. I keep having this nagging feeling of a hint of a possibility.

    I mean, it would absolutely be in character for him, and them.

  68. 68.

    Alison Rose

    @HumboldtBlue: This one got me cackling

    Ok- I just have 1 last question:

    Who even has enough time in 1 day to bust 7x

    Sessions either 2 mins or yall BUMs.
    And if I’m working all day. Don’t bring me no dick- bring me lunch. feeeeed me.

    Ok. Bye.
    — Jaz Moné (@xoxojazmone) March 30, 2023

  69. 69.

    Subsole

    @Roger Moore:

    Also, are these people new?

    Do they just…not remember the Great American Clenis hunt? Benghaaaaazi? The Birth Certificate?

    I’m supposed to weep because these folks are being treated as they have treated us? The fact they have to live up to their eyeballs in the same shit they inflicted on the rest of us is supposed to deter me?

    I just…

    What fucking moon of Neptune did they scoop these fuckers off of??

  70. 70.

    Jackie

    More bad news for FAUX News! Per WaPo:

    “A judge undercut key arguments in Fox News’s defense against a $1.6 billion defamation suit Friday, ruling the network cannot dispute that it aired false, harmful statements about an election-technology company when the case goes to trial next month.

    The decision by Delaware Superior Court Judge Eric M. Davis to reject requests from Fox News and parent company Fox Corporation to dismiss the case had been widely anticipated.

    But legal experts said the specific ruling was a blow for Fox — and an encouraging sign going into trial for Dominion Voting Systems, which argues that Fox unfairly smeared it with wild allegations about its role in the 2020 election…”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2023/03/31/dominion-fox-lawsuit-summary-ruling/

  71. 71.

    West of the Rockies

    Serious question:  do you think Trump will go to NY or try to hole up in Florida?  My wife just asked me that question.   Right now,  i think it’s fifty-fifty.

  72. 72.

    Subsole

     

     

    @schrodingers_cat: Modi’s people/the BJP??

    I dunno. Those guys are weird enough, certainly, but I thought their preferred punching bags were Muslims rather than Jews…

    Or are we talking about the Podcadt Proletarians again?*

     

    *I honestly can’t call them lefties. They’re not. They’re just asswipe Libertarians wearing vaporwave CCP drag.

  74. 74.

    kalakal

    @Another Scott:

    He thinks he can wait out everyone else, and all punishment.  Because he always has thus far.

    He’s betting he’s got deeper pockets than the govt. Now that can work depending on how public stuff is, what level of govt, and just how interested the govt is in nailing him. In the past it’s always worked because he’s been dealing with borough commissioners etc. in cases of which the public never hears about. The dumbass doesn’t seem to realise just how far out of his depth he is. How sad

  76. 76.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @West of the Rockies:

    do you think Trump will go to NY or try to hole up in Florida?

    He will go to NY.  All reports of his behavior have been unanimous on that point.  Whatever is going through his tiny brain, hiding from arraignment is not what he wants to do.

  78. 78.

    bbleh

    @West of the Rockies: I dunno, IIRC the Constitution (IV. 2) kinda requires that Florida arrest and surrender him if he tries that.  I know Pudding Boy is a publicity hound as bad as the rest of them, but I think it’s pretty cut-and-dried.  And I don’t think he’d want news stories about “his” state troopers arresting the God-King.

  80. 80.

    Subsole

     

     

    @mvr:

    No. Jared.

    Perfidious (((cosmopolitan))) who is, not incidentally, banging the woman Trump wishes he was banging.

  81. 81.

    West of the Rockies

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I would not be one iota surprised if he waited until Wednesday (“You’re not the boss of me!”).   I just wonder if he’ll panic and go all cornered rat.

  82. 82.

    TS

    Our media trying to make something of a protest outside trump’s abode – about 6 people from what I can see. No-one wants to go to jail for him – maybe if a GOP politician suffered that fate the would all realise he is not worth the effort.

  85. 85.

    hotshoe

    @Shalimar: ​
     
    Over on another social site, I’ve been getting blast after blast of Soros hate from a couple of red meanies.
    I’m sure they were never the nice people they have pretended to be, but this anti-Soros garbage is an extra dose of unbelievably vicious.
    It’s a name, five letters, hardly anything at all. But it has the power to make them completely lose their minds.
    I don’t get it.

  86. 86.

    dm

    @bbleh: The other half of “Al Capone was taken down for tax evasion” is: because he didn’t report the income from committing crimes.

    The analogy with TFG is pretty apt.

  90. 90.

    piratedan

    @Jackie: how nice that a judge says that Faux News is not allowed to gaslight the court in the same fashion as they have millions of viewers.

    gotta admire the chutzpah of Faux lawyers pulling out the Montoya gambit of “you keep using those words, but I don’t think it means what you think it means” as a legal argument.

  92. 92.

    Jackie

    @TS: Exactly. Everyone, including MAGAts, have seen hundreds of J6 insurrectionists jailed for following TFG’s encouragement and NOT pardoned or financially supported by lawyers paid for by TFG.

  94. 94.

    piratedan

    @Jackie: believe the Judge stated that with Fox News running incessant segments decrying the accuracy of Dominion equipment and security that Fox can’t turn around in court and state that they were simply reporting “what some people said” and take zero responsibility for it as a defense.

  95. 95.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Dangerman:

    he’ll get Jeffrey Epsteined

    Everyone looks the other way as he commits suicide because malignant narcissists have a well established habit of doing that in jail?  Because they care much more about an unending stream of ego gratification than their life?  Yes, that sounds like Trump.  Even as pathetic a coward as he is, I have long held that he’s a huge suicide risk if he’s convicted and put in jail long term.

    If you mean killed by Putin, fuck, no.  Why would Putin do that?  Trump confessing in detail direct orders he got from Putin and dishing horrible blackmail dirt on the whole Republican Party would make Putin’s day.  Discrediting the whole American system of government is one of his primary goals, and that would make Trump a godsend from beginning to end.

  96. 96.

    Alison Rose

    LOL from a NYT piece about reactions from TFG’s spawn:

    Mr. Trump’s younger daughter, Tiffany Trump, had not said anything about the indictment as of late Friday morning. But, as she rarely speaks publicly, her silence was not unusual.

    I sometimes wonder if Tiffany is just as eager for the fucker to either go to jail or drop dead as we all are. Reminds me of the time he wrote “my daughter, Ivanka, blah blah” and everyone was like DUDE. YOUR PUNCTUATION CHOICE.

  98. 98.

    patrick II

    chatham harrison is tending his garden
    @chathamharrison

    I specifically want this to happen as part of an extended effort to delay his trial for as long as possible. Ideally, Trump is convicted a week after the election & a week before his heart gives out

    Is Chatham trying to get MTG to be President?

  99. 99.

    cain

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    or the fact that he played an entire political party – that he did so much damage thanks to those greedy fucks.

    I’m okay if he feels that way because the GOP needs to be humiliated, seen as unpatriotic, and as a scourge. Their voters should feel ashamed that they were played to by foreign enemies. It’ll break up their fucking apple pie image of themselves.

    It won’t last though. Putin will start it up again and they’ll find another patsy funded by Russian money. Those folks will need to find someone who can tell them they are the besties of the U.S..

    ETA hahaha #99!

  100. 100.

    cain

    @hotshoe: I don’t understand why Soros takes this shit? The man should do a defmation suit against Fox News and specific right wingers and fucking end them.

    Eta hahaa- #100!!

  101. 101.

    Alison Rose

    @cain: Possibly he doesn’t want to even dignify the bullshit with any response, but also, a Jew bringing a lawsuit, even if it’s for a nominal amount, is immediately going to get smeared by the same people he’d be suing as being a greedy money-hungry jerk using all his Jewy lawyer friends to attack good Christians or whatever. Any excuse people get to paint us as demonic Scrooge McDucks, they’ll take it.

  103. 103.

    Ruckus

    @bbleh:

    I don’t see him admitting anything in any sort of public arena. He’s a con man. Not a very good one all things considered but he has gotten away with a lot over the last 50 yrs or so. And he thinks he’s always right. When in fact he seems to always be the exact opposite.

  104. 104.

    ColoradoGuy

    The one person T**** will never rat out is VVP.

    Even someone as dim-witted as T**** would fear death from a bizarre Russian poisoning, something weird enough to be right out of a Bond movie. Both T**** and VVP love showy, theatrical gestures, and in that respect, they understand each other.

    As for the rest of the Republican Party, he would laugh as it burned to the ground.

  106. 106.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @ColoradoGuy:

    Even someone as dim-witted as T**** would fear death from a bizarre Russian poisoning

    I think you’re right.  I don’t think there’s any likelihood of Putin having him killed, but Trump thinking it?  Yeah.  Trump would never grasp that his whole use to Putin is as a bumbler and a laughingstock.  Trump reveres Putin as the dictator who casually had people killed that Trump wants to be. Trump thinking of himself as someone important enough that Putin would silence him – yeah.  Definitely in-character.

  107. 107.

    StringOnAStick

    I emailed my RW father to let him know we both have Covid.  His reply asked if we’d been vaccinated (of course we have, all of them) and if not, to do so immediately.  He also said “don’t listen to the antivaxxer idiots, they’re all moron Trump supporters!”.  Something about the Mango Moron crime wave got through to a FOX addict, and I’m not sure what did it, I just hope he’s one of a building tsunami.

  108. 108.

    Elizabelle

    @StringOnAStick:  Good to hear, re your dad getting outside the bubble.  Hope you are feeling better.

    @Spanky:

    Maybe [Trump will] switch from Sunset Boulevard to White Heat.

    You made me laugh!  Norma Desmond.

  110. 110.

    Chief Oshkosh

    @Jeffro: Maybe send them the 6-month-interval timeline of debasements to help them connect the dots

    ETA: Come to think of it, that would be instructional for everyone. Sort of a long bumpersticker.

  112. 112.

    Rudi666

    I’m in Florida and the MAGA.pac is already running ads against DeSatan. This battle between tRump and DeSatan will only get better.

  113. 113.

    WaterGirl

    @West of the Rockies: Trump will be on drugs to calm him down.  The question is will they get the dosage right?  Some of the drugging to get Trump to give a calm-ish speech were definitely over-prescribed

    edit: I can’t believe that no one has suggested the possibility of Trump having some sort of (alleged) health even that would keep him from being able to be arraigned on Tuesday.

  114. 114.

    WaterGirl

    @StringOnAStick: Wow, that’s surprising about your father.

    Are you feeling any better today?  No one asked my opinion, but i thought it might have been kind of foolish for your husband to go skiing over the weekend after just having gotten over Covid.

    Hopefully there were no negative aftereffects or him.

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