Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Too often we confuse noise with substance. too often we confuse setbacks with defeat.

Fight them, without becoming them!

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

You know it’s bad when the Project 2025 people have to create training videos on “How To Be Normal”.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

Welcome to day five of every-bit-as-bad-as-you-thought-it-would-be.

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

Incompetence, fear, or corruption? why not all three?

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

Since we are repeating ourselves, let me just say fuck that.

… riddled with inexplicable and elementary errors of law and fact

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

I like political parties that aren’t owned by foreign adversaries.

Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.

“Alexa, change the president.”

Red lights blinking on democracy’s dashboard

The republican caucus is covering themselves with something, and it is not glory.

Disappointing to see gov. newsom with his finger to the wind.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

If ‘weird’ was the finish line, they ran through the tape and kept running.

Shut up, hissy kitty!

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  1. 1.

    sdhays

    Does Trump know that he can’t speak in the courtroom? Being forced to sit there silently while evidence is presented against him may not be the slam-dunk in his favor he thinks it is.

  3. 3.

    sdhays

    @sdhays: I can’t imaging the judge (even this judge) allowing him to walk out of the courthouse each day and then trash the entire proceeding on the courthouse steps, either. So, unless the judge just doesn’t put any leash on him at all – or let’s him keep campaigning and not have to show up for his trial – the whole thing will make him look weak.

  4. 4.

    satby

    @sdhays: He knows. God knows he’s been in court enough times. But he’s also becoming cognitively impaired, and stress makes that worse. We’ll see if his lawyers can keep a lid on him as case after case after case goes on.

  5. 5.

    Marmot

    @satby:

    But he’s also becoming cognitively impaired, and stress makes that worse.

    Hold on, hold on. I heard that throughout that nut’s presidency, and usually it was because the person saying it had no idea how a narcissist behaves. I mean, narcissists’ motives are utterly alien to good, normal people, so I get why somebody might think that.

    But is there actually any evidence of his cognitive decline this time?

  8. 8.

    p.a.

    Looking at Cannon’s trial for jury pool tampering in a already pro-tRump stacked area and potential for mistrial.  Delay delay delay if acquittal in doubt.

     

    Also too, could his imbecilic tweets be used to bring further charges?  Intimidation?  Threats against prosecutors or judges?  His handlers must get his drug cocktail right, and keep it flowing w/o interruption.

  9. 9.

    Cameron

    @sdhays: He might try that stunt he pulled in the 2016 debates by getting up and wandering around the courtroom.  That probably wouldn’t go over too well.

  10. 10.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    Part of me fears this for the extent to which he can get his deranged cult to rise up and strike his perceived enemies, but the other party recognizes that there is a significant plurality of Republican and Republican leaning voters that would be repulsed by such an unhinged display, and would destroy him (and his biggest enablers) at the ballot box.

  11. 11.

    eclare

    @zhena gogolia:

    I don’t know if you saw my comment to you in a dead thread.  I found a Kroger brand bag of frozen super sweet corn.  Looking forward to it!  Unfortunately nothing on the bag says where it was sourced.

  12. 12.

    sdhays

    @satby: God knows he’s been in court enough times.

    This is his first criminal trial, because he’s been coddled for his entire life. My understanding is that he has to be physically in the court for his criminal trial(s), showing him silent and at the mercy of the judge and jury – and prosecutor.

    That’s new for him. He didn’t have to show his face during his impeachment trials, just whine about them outside or on Twitter.

  13. 13.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July heat returns this week: 90, 93, 95, 94, 95, 96, 95… Blech.

    Let’s set up a pool: How many days after the start of his first trial will he get his first contempt of court citation?
    How many days after the start of his first trial will he get his last contempt of court citation?

    You know he will.

  14. 14.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @satby:

    What’s the “pajama boys” reference? Google simply offered me pages and pages of ads for boys’ sleepwear, and even Urban Dictionary wasn’t much help.

  17. 17.

    Math Guy

    Imagine watching a foreign film in a language you don’t speak, but with English subtitles. Ten minutes into the film, you begin to notice a disconnect between what is transpiring on the screen and what you are reading in the subtitles. It is subtle, at first, but eventually some scene – say a car chase in Paris with the two main characters trying to escape the police while the subtitles are a conversation about whether casseroles should be baked covered or uncovered – drives home the point that the narrative and the reality don’t match. That is what it is what much of cable and network news coverage seems to be these days.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    @SiubhanDuinne: Maybe it’s a callback to the right-wing freakout a few years ago about an Obamacare ad that featured a guy in pajamas and some sort of “have a casual talk with your family about health insurance when you’re home visiting for the holidays” script or something like that. The RW spent months going ballistic about how “Pajama Boy” represented the Decline And Fall of American Manhood.

  21. 21.

    Scout211

    I just read this morning that Jason Aldean was decrying “cancel culture” at his concert last night and the crowd went wild. Do these people not understand that boycotting Bud Light makes them a big part of the “cancel culture” they are wildly decrying? (Rhetorical question)

    It’s justified when they do it for reasons, but not okay for the “wrong” people to do it.

    I just can’t with these raging, racist, anti-LGBTQ+ hypocrites.

  25. 25.

    Anyway

    Saw a “Nikki Haley for President” sign yesterday — on a small country road out by Locust Point in Cecil County, MD which is pretty Trumpy territory. Can’t imagine a Haley supporter out there. Bizarre.

  26. 26.

    OzarkHillbilly

    @Anyway: I can’t imagine a Haley supporter out there anywhere. Outside of her own immediate family, and even then I doubt it would be better than 50/50.

  28. 28.

    Chief Oshkosh

    There is a the potential for Trump gaining sympathy if he is treated like other defendants. Treatment is typically demeaning and sometime appalling in our criminal “justice” system.

  29. 29.

    Cacti

    Never knew who Jason Aldean was or that he made music until the latest Fox non-troversy.

    But it’s about what I’d expect from the sister-fucker music genre.

  34. 34.

    OzarkHillbilly

    A Nevada woman who admitted to hiring a hitman on the internet for $5,000 in bitcoin to kill her ex-husband “and make it look like an accident” was sentenced to five years in prison.
    …………….
    Felkins began communicating with someone in 2016 on a dark web hitman website that claimed to offer murder-for-hire services, according to her September 2020 indictment. Felkins wanted her ex-husband killed while he was traveling in Chico, California, the indictment said.

    Authorities described the website as a scam that simply took money from unsuspecting customers.

    She was given leniency because she’s too stupid to ever be a threat to anyone.

  35. 35.

    New Deal democrat

    In re: cameras in the courtroom.

    Because what America needs most is another OJ or Menendez Brothers circus.

    Have people no memories at all??? Why do you think that practice was stopped?

    Audiotapes or transcripts made available immediately, yes. Cameras, Hell NO!!!

  36. 36.

    eclare

    @New Deal democrat:

    The company that I worked for at the time, the very buttoned down accounting firm Arthur Andersen, brought tv’s into conference rooms to show the OJ verdict.  Pre cellphone, TPTB knew that we would leave work to watch if we had to.

  39. 39.

    Lapassionara

    @OzarkHillbilly: Years ago, a wife in Kansas wanted her husband “taken care of.” IIRC, she mentioned this in passing to her hairdresser. Some weeks of month later her husband was killed by gunfire in front of her and their children as he was standing outside their car on I-70 looking for his car keys, which had mysteriously gone missing.

    How the police found out that she had “out-sourced” the deed I’m not sure. The hair dresser may have been the source.  She was having an affair with her pastor, whose own wife had died in mysterious circumstances, and wanted her hubby out of the way. Quite the story, when it came out, and that they lived in some small Kansas town is just so perfect.

  41. 41.

    gene108

    @New Deal democrat:

    Because what America needs most is another OJ or Menendez Brothers circus.

    Trump wants a circus or make the trial(s) into one.

    He’d have video evidence that people have seen to go on about how he’s treated unfairly, and the likelihood Republicans could figure who’s on the jury would be higher, leaving open the possibility that his supporters could engage in jury intimidation by threatening the juror’s family.

  42. 42.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    EJ Dionne via Anne Laurie @ Top:

    The new Trump TV Show

    “Trump’s Trials”

    •Oct. 2: New York civil fraud trial

    •Jan. 15: Second E. Jean Carroll civil defamation trial

    •March 25: Manhattan hush-money trial

    •May 20: Federal classified documents trial in Florida

    Check local listings

    Next week on The Trump Show: Watch Trump sit silently in the courtroom while his lawyers perjure themselves before the judge! Watch Trump’s lawyers implicate themselves in Trump’s crimes! Watch Judge Cannon ignore the crimes being openly committed in her courtroom as she joins the defense from the bench!

    Join us here on Fox News for The Trump Show this week. Same Trump time, same Trump channel!

  45. 45.

    sab

    @Chief Oshkosh: Husband and I were just talking about how much Dick Wolf at Law and Order has changed perceptions. Used to be defense attorneys were the good guys. Now they aren’t. In my family’s limited experience with the judicial system there are a lot of innocent people charged with crimes they didn’t commit. TV makes it seem like every defendent did it, when mostly they didn’t. Trumps, on the other hand, mostly did it and rarely are charged.

  49. 49.

    sab

    Dobby the cat claims that he is afraid of Eddie the new cat. But Dobby is batting around his latest toy (toy mouse with real fur stuffed with catnip and a rattle) around the room where Eddie is trying to sleep. I call liar on Dobby’s alleged fears

    ETA Dobby claims that I don’t understand catnip addiction. I agree. I don’t.

  50. 50.

    Soprano2

    You don’t know how many conservatives have the fantasy about shooting someone who crosses them. They all think they could easily shoot someone with no practice or training at all. They get unhappy when you point out that no one who breaks into your house is going to stand still for you to shoot them, and even police officers who practice regularly have around a 20% success rate at hitting their target in a real life situation. They watch too much TV, where it looks easy and not that bloody. My husband, who has shot people in war, says it’s not that easy to do.

  52. 52.

    Sure Lurkalot

    @NotMax:

    Should have heeded your warning. I guess I will just be catty and mention she really does look (to me) like the troll dolls of my childhood but she inexplicably thinks she looks like Gisele Bundchen.

  53. 53.

    Lapassionara

    @OzarkHillbilly: you probably did read something about it. The killing on the interstate got a lot of attention because it seemed so random when it happened. I remember thinking that we better not need to stop on the side of the road in that part of Kansas. Then it turned out that the wife had set the whole thing up.

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    I looked up “Balloon Juice” this morning and my phone gave me “balloon juice news.” I saw an article by the news site freshplaza.com:

    “A hot air balloon to promote Sicilian blood orange juice.”

    Sicilian orange trees took a beating in last winter’s storms. Growers want some attention and goverment assistance, so last February someone rigged up a balloon with a banner, “Fly High With Sicilan Juice” and flew it over the town of Barcellona di Pozzi Gotto’s annual Soccer in Pajamas event.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    @New Deal democrat:   That ship has sailed.

    I am in favor of cameras in the courtroom.  Too much opportunity for fake and misleading audio and truncated transcripts.  Let people watch it in real time.

    It is going to be a spectacle anyway, because Trump is involved.  But, it is crucially important that people get to watch it unfiltered.

    Who is going to read a transcript?  A lot of people don’t even read newspapers.

    Remember our experience with FTF Andrea Mitchell, spinning some bizarre report on what Obama’s speech entailed, when we just watched the thing, in whole, and it did not remotely resemble Mrs. Greenspan’s reporting on it.

  57. 57.

    mrmoshpotato

    The first “American Chinese food” restaurant opens in Beijing.

    Beef and peapods for the win.

  58. 58.

    mrmoshpotato

    And yes, I do talk about Jesse Watters’ mom:

    Why?  Does she think her son is a pile of shit too?

  59. 59.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Soprano2:

    Four trained officers shot a total of 41 rounds at Amazon Diallo at close range – only 19 hit.

    You see a lot of this out there in cop world – it tends to be “spray and pray”.

  61. 61.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @mrmoshpotato:

    General Tso’s chicken, which will prompt all the patrons to wonder who General Tso was, and what is his connection to chicken.

  68. 68.

    sab

    @Geminid: It is amazing how much you know. Other people follow idiots on news tv. I follow a landscaper who uses his spare time well

    Absolutely no // snark there.

  69. 69.

    dirge

    @Math Guy: CarolPW: Does that mean I’m living in a Woody Allen movie?

    Got a better explanation for… [flailing gesture at world in general] all this?

    Whatever helps you make sense of the world, man.

  70. 70.

    Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg

    @Geminid:

    I know General Tso to be a gourmand who followed every battle with a meal consisting of lightly fried and spicy chicken strips, some carrots, garlic and broccoli covered with a sweet, spicy sauce infused with hot chilis.

  72. 72.

    Kirk

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg: The menu doesn’t mention Tso at all. Just General Chicken.

    And a choice of Mongolian and Western Bluebell cattle with the fried rice or fried noodles.

     

    (And to be fair, some Chinese would indeed know who General Tso was and wonder why that ancient warlord was associates with this very sweet and mildly hot chicken dish.)

  73. 73.

    Jackie

    @p.a.: Jack Smith has another ace up his sleeve if Cannon aids and abets TIFG – the J6 indictment.

    Anything, ANYTHING TIFG says – even on his social media or TV interviews or campaign rallies can and WILL be used against him.

  74. 74.

    phdesmond

     

     Zuo Zongtang (General Tso) was a respected Chinese statesman and military leader of the late Qing dynasty, which ruled the country from 1644 …

  75. 75.

    Another Scott

    @Lapassionara: Other than mass shootings, the statistics are (yeah, gotta be careful about statistics, especially on the web) that one usually knows (or has some close relationship of some sort) one’s killer.

    Our neighborhood association’s new president seems to be a lawnorder guy.  We’re frequently getting e-mails about crime “in the neighborhood”.  Which, it just so happens, includes major roads that feed into the interstate.  Getting too “NextDoor”-y for me.

    (About a decade ago there were a couple of bank robberies at a bank branch that had very convenient access to the interstate.  It happened a couple of times, then stopped.  It only takes one or two people to do stupid things that make the news.  That doesn’t make the neighborhood somehow “unsafe”, or that we need to be afraid.)

    Grr…,
    Scott.

  77. 77.

    Baud

    I wonder if Xi Jinping will insist on having a dish named after him. I would if I were a dictator.  President Baud’s Pot Brownies.

  78. 78.

    citizen dave

    Wondered the other day what Julius Caesar would think today about a salad appearing on menus all over the world named for him.  Except–corrected by the internet: “Many people think the Caesar salad was named after Julius Caesar — it’s not. The Caesar salad was invented by an Italian man named Caesar Cardini. Italians can rest assured that there was Italian influence behind its creation.”   I use that dressing occasionally–the Cardini line of dressings.

    Instead of The Apprentice; it’s The Defendant.

    Yesterday in Home Depot saw a middle-aged white man wearing a flag t-shirt with “Freedom Isn’t Free” on it.  Made me think I should make one with flag and “Simple Phrase Explains Everything” on it.  The top cartoon is excellent!

  79. 79.

    bbleh

    @Soprano2: Yup.  It’s an 11-y/o boy’s fantasy that they’ve never outgrown.  Like so much else from that age that they’ve never outgrown.

  83. 83.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Lapassionara:

    Years ago, a wife in Kansas wanted her husband “taken care of.” IIRC, she mentioned this in passing to her hairdresser. Some weeks of month later her husband was killed by gunfire in front of her and their children as he was standing outside their car on I-70 looking for his car keys, which had mysteriously gone missing. 

    I hope she got slapped, like literally slapped in the face, with a heavy sentence.

    And everyone knows you whack your husband over the head with a frozen leg of lamb, then cook it for the cops.

    What a maroon.

  85. 85.

    Splitting Image

    @Math Guy:

    Does that mean I’m living in a Woody Allen movie?

    You’ve never dated someone who’s grandmother was a classic anti-Semite or been driven by someone who had the impulse to steer the car into oncoming traffic?

  86. 86.

    Lapassionara

    @Another Scott: I didn’t join Next Door for that reason. Here in my little part of suburbia, we have a local newspaper that prints the “crime reports” for our town. Most of the reports involve someone breaking into an unlocked car and taking whatever is available. Not exactly the meanest of streets.

  88. 88.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Lapassionara: What a monster that woman is though. She arranged to have her husband killed… that’s bad enough in itself but to arrange it so that his kids were there to see it go down? I mean fuckin A she didn’t give a shit about them either.

  93. 93.

    Bill Arnold

    @Marmot:

    But is there actually any evidence of his cognitive decline this time?

    I sentence you to 30 minutes of randomly chosen recent D.J. Trump video clips.

  94. 94.

    gwangung

    Americanized Chinese food actually is a separate cuisine, as immigrated Chinese altered their foods to fit (white) American tastes. A kinda interesting anthropological study if you think about it, as to how culture and their artifacts will adapt to their surroundings.

  96. 96.

    schrodingers_cat

    @gwangung: Indian Chinese food is glorious! It has its origins in the adaptations that the Chinese diaspora in India made to their cuisine. It has a lot of ginger and chilies

    It is like the Van Gogh version of Chinese food, punchier and brighter. I am a fan.

  98. 98.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Had a lovely day at the beach in Malibu yesterday except for three things:

    1.) The friend we were visiting, an older, white woman who is very liberal and extremely well-educated (like a retired Academic expert on Ancient History/Art) suddenly went on a tangent about why she opposes Reparations for Black Americans.  Her arguments were all just so silly and uninformed and low-key racist.  Sad.

    2.) I got what appears to be a case of pink eye.  Ugh…

    3.) On the way home, driving a very windy canyon road into the very hot Valley, our car started acting up.  Likely the wheel bearings.  Have to get to mechanic asap.  Major pain in the ass and complicating (and possibly expensive) wrench in scheduling/work for tomorrow and Tuesday.

  99. 99.

    p.a.

    @gwangung: Americanized Chinese food actually is a separate cuisine, as immigrated Chinese altered their foods to fit (white) American tastes. A kinda interesting anthropological study if you think about it, as to how culture and their artifacts will adapt to their surroundings.

     

    And as an adaptation to what foods they could find or grow in North America compared to Asia.

    Internet is full of videos of Italians putting down Italian-American foods, but I don’t see much of Sicilians putting down food of the Veneto or vice-versa.  Maybe there is.  I’ve come to think that It-American, It-Argentine, & It-Australian foods should just be thought of as the 21st, 22nd, 23rd regions’ cuisines.

  100. 100.

    trollhattan

    @UncleEbeneezer: Have you had covid? Asking because pink eye has popped up as one effect of long covid.

    The 2023 WCC cross-country championships are hosted by Pepperdine and so we’ll be taking a trip to Malibu this fall. Can’t wait! Maybe Barbra will invite us over.

  101. 101.

    Geminid

    Turkish journalist published a Barbue vs. Oppenheimer trends map of Turkiye, and commented, “The results mimic the presidential election.”

    A commenter posted a map showing the presidential election results and sure enough, there was a rough correlation between the Barbie+ areas withe Erdogan+ ones, and the Oppenheimer+ areas with the Kilicdaroglu+ ones.

  102. 102.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @trollhattan: Not that I know of.  Never tested + or had major symptoms.  But also, I work with kids and I understand that pink eye is carried by kids a lot.

  103. 103.

    MattF

    If we left-wing jackals can’t figure out what the FOX talking heads are going on about… I mean, the whole point is that we’re all supposed to be enraged about them saying these things, right? So, there’s something amiss here.

  105. 105.

    Mike in NC

    Caught a very interesting documentary on Netflix 2-3 years ago called “In Search of General Tso”, which basically covered the evolution of Chinese food in this country. Not sure if it’s still out there.

  106. 106.

    Soprano2

    @gwangung: That happened in Springfield. A cook named Leong created a dish called cashew chicken because he noticed that Americans liked fried chicken. And no, you haven’t had the real thing unless you’ve had it here, because in other places they can’t resist putting all kinds of vegetables in it! It’s cubes of chicken lightly breaded and fried, with oyster sauce, cashews and green onions. There are no carrots or broccoli (shudder) or pea pods in real cashew chicken!!!!!

  107. 107.

    Carlo Graziani

    @New Deal democrat: I think we can count on the fact that even a judge as cognitively-impaired as Cannon is unlikely to wish to reboot the Judge Ito character from that spectacle.

  110. 110.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Scout211: ​
     

    I just read this morning that Jason Aldean was decrying “cancel culture” at his concert last night and the crowd went wild.

    Since he’s supposedly been ‘canceled,’ that ‘crowd’ consisted of a dozen or so people secretly meeting with him in a basement somewhere, right?

    I love it when people tell an audience of thousands or millions about how they’ve been ‘canceled.’ It definitely has that “help, help, I’m being repressed, come see the violence inherent in the system” vibe. On the right, they’re all Dennis the Peasant.

  113. 113.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Soprano2: ​
     

    That happened in Springfield.

    Which one? Massachusetts? Illinois? Virginia?

    Just kidding, I assume it was Misery. :-)

  114. 114.

    Carlo Graziani

    @Deputinize Eurasia from the Kuriles to St Petersburg:

    General Tso’s chicken, which will prompt all the patrons to wonder who General Tso was, and what is his connection to chicken.

    That’s the difference between Chinese and American cuisine: Chinese chicken is prepared by a general, while American chicken is prepared by a Colonel. Their chicken outranks ours.

  115. 115.

    Brachiator

    @Scout211:

    I just read this morning that Jason Aldean was decrying “cancel culture” at his concert last night and the crowd went wild.

    It makes me feel good not knowing who this person is. Don’t care either.

    It’s justified when they do it for reasons, but not okay for the “wrong” people to do it.

    Yep.

  116. 116.

    trollhattan

    @UncleEbeneezer: ​That’s probably it. Next to head lice from sleepovers, pink eye passaround was probably the biggest common malady among my kid’s cohort, back in the day.

    Now they pass around the ‘rona. (Kid just had it the second time.)

  117. 117.

    Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog

    @Kirk:

    The menu doesn’t mention Tso at all. Just General Chicken.

     

    My favorite general! “Invincible in peace; invisible in war!” Kept the troops safe.

  118. 118.

    Kent

    @citizen dave: Wondered the other day what Julius Caesar would think today about a salad appearing on menus all over the world named for him.  Except–corrected by the internet: “Many people think the Caesar salad was named after Julius Caesar — it’s not. The Caesar salad was invented by an Italian man named Caesar Cardini. Italians can rest assured that there was Italian influence behind its creation.”   I use that dressing occasionally–the Cardini line of dressings.

    Well, technically Caesar Cardini was named after Julius Caesar so it sort of is.

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    @Brachiator: Same. He’ll fade away then become the Kid Rock of Meatloafs at third-string Republican fundraisers and Confederate state county fairs.

  120. 120.

    Ruckus

    @Marmot:

    That brain, at 77 yrs stupid?

    Life changes when you get up there. Ask me how I know.

    For someone whose entire life has been one huge debacle of pompous arrogant stupidity, who takes such great care of his health and self admiration, his decline is totally normal. Now there are people who don’t decline quite as stupidly or rapidly, I know because I know 90 yr olds who have declined far less than him. I’m only 3 yrs younger than him but I haven’t had 77 yrs of pompous arrogant stupidity underneath my belt. IOW my reality threshold actually exists. The vast majority of humans get this old and recognize that we don’t need a gold toilet to crap into nor would we spend the money on one even if we had it. Think for 2 minutes of all the stupid crap he’s done or said in the last 8 yrs. BTW it will take you a lot longer than 2 minutes, it’s a whole lot of crap. It’s just that if you go longer than 2 minutes thinking of his crap, you’ll lose your voice from screaming. And scare children for miles around.

  121. 121.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Lapassionara: ​
     

    The killing on the interstate got a lot of attention because it seemed so random when it happened. I remember thinking that we better not need to stop on the side of the road in that part of Kansas. Then it turned out that the wife had set the whole thing up.

    The ‘in front of her and their children‘ part blew me away. Imagine being a child and seeing your father mowed down with gunfire right in front of you – that would be a source of lifelong trauma all by itself.

    And then finding out years later that your mom was the one responsible. I think at that point I’d curl up in a ball and stay there for a few decades.

  123. 123.

    Kent

    @gwangung: Americanized Chinese food actually is a separate cuisine, as immigrated Chinese altered their foods to fit (white) American tastes. A kinda interesting anthropological study if you think about it, as to how culture and their artifacts will adapt to their surroundings.

    You can say that about any ethnic food in the US

    Mexican food in the US shows only a passing resemblance to actual Mexican cuisine (and in the case of Taco Bell, no resemblance).

    Italian food in the US only shows a passing resemblance to actual Italian cuisine.

    German food in the US (hot dogs and Budweiser) only shows a passing resemblance to the beer and sausages you find in Germany.

    etc….

  124. 124.

    Ghost of Joe Liebling’s Dog

    @lowtechcyclist:  According to Mike McTraitorpillow, the current term of art seems to be “all of them did cancel culture on us.”

    This is like what a newborn baby sometimes does on a doctor’s gown, I take it.

    Halp halp … uh-huh.  If that’s their worst problem, and sadly, it looks like it will be for some of them, they should be thinking they’ve had a very easy time.

    Not that they will, of course.  These are the sorest winners in the world, when they win something, and 100 times worse when they lose something.

  125. 125.

    trollhattan

    @Kent: ​There are MANY origin histories of the margarita, two involving a namesakes:
    “Hussong’s Cantina also claims to have been the site of the margarita’s creation in Ensenada, Baja California, in 1941. Bartender Don Carlos Orozco reputedly named a new drink after Mexican-German patron Margarita Henkel Cesena, a frequent customer to the cantina. Cesena was a ranch operator by trade, and it is disputed whether she was the daughter of a German ambassador as the story claims. Hussong’s, however, has enjoyed widespread popularity as the home of the original margarita.”

    “The inventor was Dallas socialite Margarita Sames when she concocted the drink for her guests at her Acapulco, Guerrero vacation home in 1948. Tommy Hilton reportedly attended, bringing the drink back to the Hilton chain of hotels. However, Jose Cuervo was already running ad campaigns for the margarita three years earlier, in 1945, with the slogan, ‘Margarita: It’s more than a girl’s name.'”
    Ole!

  126. 126.

    Ruckus

    @Math Guy:

    That is what it is what much of cable and network news coverage seems to be these days.

    Much of? I’d substitute most of for that. It is done not as news but entertainment. Some are far worse at it.

  127. 127.

    trollhattan

    @CarolPW: @Math Guy:

    Could be good, could be bad, depending on which movie.

    “Tiger Lily” was damn funny, to be sure. It mimicked what we kids did watching Japanese monster movies for the umpteenth time, just giving it our own dialogue and predicting “Beavis and Butthead” a couple decades out.

  128. 128.

    gwangung

    @Kent: Oh, for sure, yeah. I bloviate mostly for the purists (Asian and non-Asian) who insist that this isn’t “authentic” Chinese cuisine.

    As I said, people move, cultures change, foods adapt.

  129. 129.

    cmorenc

    @sab:

    In my family’s limited experience with the judicial system there are a lot of innocent people charged with crimes they didn’t commit. TV makes it seem like every defendent did it, when mostly they didn’t. Trumps, on the other hand, mostly did it and rarely are charged.

    True, lots of innocent people get tangled up with criminal charges of which they are either innocent or which are at least grossly disproportionate to their actual conduct.

    However, as someone who formerly practiced as a criminal defense attorney, 90% of people in criminal court are in fact guilty of at least a significant portion of what they are charged with.  An assistant District Attorney with whom I had a good, albeit adversarial working relationship with had a running joke that most of the criminal code involving misdemeanors or less severe felony charges could be condensed into a single crime: being a noxious clown, with two or three potential degrees of noxiousness.  However, that 90% in-fact guilty dynamic unfortunately cyncally tends to dull the court system’s sensibilities toward the portion who are actually innocent – actual trials are a burdensome PITA that strains the assembly-line of plea negotiation dispositions.

  130. 130.

    Brachiator

    @gwangung:

    Americanized Chinese food actually is a separate cuisine, as immigrated Chinese altered their foods to fit (white) American tastes. A kinda interesting anthropological study if you think about it, as to how culture and their artifacts will adapt to their surroundings.

    There seem to be Chinese restaurants in every country on Earth. Chinese restaurants were my safety go to if I had issues with the local cuisine, when I traveled more. Had a great meal in a little place in a small city in Mexico.

    And a few years ago, a friend took me to a fabulous Cuban Chinese restaurant in lower Manhattan.

  132. 132.

    trollhattan

    @Brachiator: Friends and I were stuck in Calexico, walked to Mexicali (as one does) and wandering about, found ourselves in a Chinatown. Of course we got lunch there, because it was too weird not to.

  133. 133.

    lowtechcyclist

    @schrodingers_cat: ​
     

    Indian Chinese food is glorious! It has its origins in the adaptations that the Chinese diaspora in India made to their cuisine. It has a lot of ginger and chilies

    It is like the Van Gogh version of Chinese food, punchier and brighter. I am a fan.

    I would LOVE to try some of that.

  135. 135.

    Scout211

    More Elon news this morning. *yawn*

    Bye bye, birdie!

    Link

    NEW YORK (AP) — Elon Musk said Sunday that he plans to change the logo of Twitter to an “X” from the bird, marking what would be the latest big change since he bought the social media platform for $44 billion last year.In a series of posts on his Twitter account starting just after 12 a.m. ET, Twitter’s owner said that he’s looking to make the change worldwide as soon as Monday.

  136. 136.

    lowtechcyclist

    @schrodingers_cat: ​
     

    Many bigger cities in the US have restaurants that offer that on the menu.

    If you ever go to Mumbai I can give you my recs.

    I’m unlikely to make it to Mumbai, but the greater DC area (aka “the DMV”) has become the land of a hundred cuisines, so maybe there’s an Indian Chinese restaurant somewhere in this great metropolis. I’ll have to see what I can find.

  137. 137.

    Soprano2

    @lowtechcyclist: Yes, it was. I went to Leong’s Tea House when it was open. It closed about 20 years ago, then after a few years Mr. Leong opened another restaurant that is still there. He died a few years ago; I think he was in his 80’s or 90’s. Springfield MO,  famous for cashew chicken, Bass Pro, and being the headquarters of the Assemblies of God.

  139. 139.

    Brachiator

    @trollhattan:

    Friends and I were stuck in Calexico, walked to Mexicali (as one does) and wandering about, found ourselves in a Chinatown. Of course we got lunch there, because it was too weird not to.

    A serendipitous discovery. Sounds like fun.

  140. 140.

    frosty

    @schrodingers_cat: Our best Indian restaurant has some Chinese dishes on their menu. Do you think that would be a reasonable substitute for a trip to Mumbai?

    PS Their Chicken Korma is delicious!

  141. 141.

    There go two miscreants

    @frosty: What’s the name of the place? I have relatives in Parkton, MD who would probably be interested in a recommendation. I think that is not too far from where you are.

  142. 142.

    gene108

    @gwangung:

    Oh, for sure, yeah. I bloviate mostly for the purists (Asian and non-Asian) who insist that this isn’t “authentic” Chinese cuisine.

    As I said, people move, cultures change, foods adapt.

    Given how much food native to the Eastern and Western hemispheres has crisscrossed the planet, the idea of “authentic” changed significantly over the last 500 years.

  143. 143.

    Matt McIrvin

    The Chinese food situation is more complicated now since there are plenty of Chinese restaurants in the US offering things beyond the “American Chinese food” menu, especially in cities. But of course I have only a dim understanding of how “authentic” any of that might be. While I like Sichuan dishes myself, the American adaptation of mostly Hunan cuisine to American tastes and ingredients does have its own attractions.

  145. 145.

    catclub

    @NotMax: ​
     

    it’s shown in full less than a total of 40 seconds in.

    which still seems much longer than two minutes?

  146. 146.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @gwangung:

    Americanized Chinese food actually is a separate cuisine, as immigrated Chinese altered their foods to fit (white) American tastes. A kinda interesting anthropological study if you think about it, as to how culture and their artifacts will adapt to their surroundings.

    Also available ingrediants. Finding them in CA or NYC is one thing, finding them in Iowa is another. It would be a bit like trying to cook a traditional Thanksgiving dinner in France, so you make substitutions out of necessity. But, for restaurants, most of it was definitely changing things to accommodate white America tastes.

    @oatler:

    “Cute Chinese Models Try Americanized Chinese Food for First Time! Hilarious Reaction!!”

    “Lunch Of Suffering”: China’s Latest Social Media Trend Is “White People’s Food,” And There’s A Surprising Amount To Unpack Here

    In recent weeks, one particular trend has taken several Chinese social media platforms by storm. At its core, it’s quite literally just people posting pictures of American-style lunches — think: veggies and dips, crackers and cold cuts, sandwiches on white bread — and referring to them as “white people’s food.”…

    Still, amid those touting the “health benefits” and approachability of “white people’s food,” the trend hasn’t been without its opponents. Another Chinese blogger referred to these types of meals as the “lunch of suffering.” A commenter on Xiaohongshu suggested that “if such a meal is to extend life, what is the meaning of life?” And in perhaps the most scathing take out there, a Weibo user shared this caption with a photo of a Lunchables-like tray of crackers, cheese, and meat: “The point of the white people’s meal is to learn what it feels like to be dead, but I’ve taken two bites and it was so bad it made me realize how alive I am.”

    Despite the snark, the discussion was actually far more nuanced.

    young professionals, who praised how straightforward and prep-friendly these meals were. It’s important to note that typical homemade lunches in China can be incredibly labor-intensive, involving many different ingredients and requiring lots of time and energy to assemble….

    For many of these young professionals, preparing “white people’s food” was a welcome change of pace when cooking after a long day…. “As a laborer, I don’t have much free time after work,” they added. It actually speaks to a more significant movement of young people fighting back against China’s “996” work culture, where people work from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. six days a week.

  147. 147.

    cain

    @Lapassionara: How the police found out that she had “out-sourced” the deed I’m not sure. The hair dresser may have been the source. She was having an affair with her pastor, whose own wife had died in mysterious circumstances, and wanted her hubby out of the way. Quite the story, when it came out, and that they lived in some small Kansas town is just so perfect.

    Good ol American small town values!

  148. 148.

    cain

    @gene108: Trump wants a circus or make the trial(s) into one.

    He wants the circus so that the rubes will keep paying into his legal fund. Lots of great messaging there to get people to fork over money.

    Even better, he’ll fleece his people so much they won’t have enough money to give to the RNC or candidates. :-)

  150. 150.

    cain

    @Elizabelle: Theoretically, it will also focus the media on the trial and not on any of the candidates – that will be a win for us. GOP candidates will get no air play.

    It will be 24/7 Trump trials for months. The right wing echo chamber will be going crazy trying to defend every new shit that shows up.

  151. 151.

    Sister Golden Bear

    @Brachiator:

    There seem to be Chinese restaurants in every country on Earth.

    They are indeed. Although some of the adaptions to the locals leave something to be desired. Worst Chinese food I ever had was in London — although admittedly the Rick Steves’ guidebook listed it as cheap eats. Somehow managed to be simultaneously boiled within an inch of its life, and incredibly greasy. Second worst was in Buenos Aires, albeit they were catering to the Argentine’s notorious sweet tooth. (I was there for more than a month and actually got tired of steak with a side steak, so I tried Mexican one night — the “salsa” was essentially sweet BBQ sauce.)

  152. 152.

    NotMax

    Worst ever (by a mile) ostensibly Chinese food I ever had was at a Chinese restaurant in Aberdeen, Scotland in the mid-1970s.

  154. 154.

    cain

    @schrodingers_cat: I concur – my wife will only eat the Indianized version and she is returning from Hyderabad in two days where she’s had her chinese food from her favorite place!

  155. 155.

    Shana

    @Lapassionara: We have one of those papers that came the other day. The crime roundup had about 8 entries, 6 of which were women reporting that their purses had been taken from their cars, one of which was unlocked, 3 of which were in the same country club parking lot on the same day. We’re in suburban DC, so, not some little town. As Lily Tomlin once said “New York is always knowing where your purse is” which I think applies everywhere.

  159. 159.

    zhena gogolia

    @eclare: I hope it’s good! It occurred to me that you might not have enough open flat space to grow a lot of corn.

  160. 160.

    Kay

    I’m at the lake and I’m listening to a teenage girl talking on the phone- 16,17,18 thereabouts. She’s pacing up and down the sidewalk outside my window- stomping- she’s mad. From what I can tell she just told her friend (not the person on the other end of the phone) not to “disrespect her” which upset the friend and the friend’s mother. She says she doesn’t care if they are drunk, that’s not an excuse. Now this poor girl is stuck staying in a beach house with the friend and friend’s family and everyone is mad at her, the guest.

    Nightmare.

  161. 161.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @There go two miscreants: I have relatives in Parkton, MD who would probably be interested in a recommendation. I think that is not too far from where you are.

    IIRC The Frosty Guy is in southern MD, whereas Parkton is just south of the Mason-Dixon line in northern Baltimore County. Roughly a 2.5 hour drive in light traffic. Long way to go for a meal IMHO.

  166. 166.

    Geminid

    @Uncle Cosmo: You might be thinking of another jackal nymed Spanky. I think he lives in Southern Maryland.

    Are Lamar Jackson and the Ravens gonna make some noise this season?

  167. 167.

    rikyrah

    @sab:

    The one true consistency of Law and Order that was bitter, but true..

    Was that the rich and powerful most times got away with it. Maybe 2 out of 5 of the Rich and powerful got truly prosecuted.

    If someone slipped through and got away, the likelihood that they were rich/ powerful…high probability

  170. 170.

    Chris Johnson

    @Cacti: He’s the guy who was on stage at the Las Vegas mass shooting, at the mic. Turns out he ran for his life, without a word of warning to the crowd.

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    RSA

    @Sister Golden Bear:  “Lunch Of Suffering”: China’s Latest Social Media Trend Is “White People’s Food,” And There’s A Surprising Amount To Unpack Here

    Thanks for that! Entertaining. I was surprised to find that the examples weren’t chicken nuggets and other fast food, but mostly just light, veggie-forward lunches. Nice–White is more than American, with the first anecdote being about someone’s lunch in Switzerland. It’s good White people’s food!

  177. 177.

    Another Scott

    The menu in that first tweet could be very confusing, because Yuan and Yen use the same symbol at times. I had to do a double-take.

    32 Yuan = $4.45
    32 Yen = $0.23

    :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

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