Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Historically it was a little unusual for the president to be an incoherent babbling moron.

“In the future, this lab will be a museum. do not touch it.”

Republicans want to make it harder to vote and easier for them to cheat.

Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

A sufficient plurality of insane, greedy people can tank any democratic system ever devised, apparently.

You are so fucked. Still, I wish you the best of luck.

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Well, whatever it is, itā€™s better than being a Republican.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm ā€“ it is a trap.

Iā€™ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesnā€™t seem to do any good.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

The media handbook says ā€œcontroversialā€ is the most negative description that can be used for a Republican.

GOP baffled that ā€˜we donā€™t care if you dieā€™ is not a winning slogan.

You canā€™t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Nothing says ā€˜pro-lifeā€™ like letting children go hungry.

Thatā€™s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Relentless negativity is not a sign that you are more realistic.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say youā€™re doing it wrong.

Weā€™re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

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  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    Predictions? Several people will complain that it’s too late, not enough, won’t mean anything unless Trump is broken on the wheel, etc.

  4. 4.

    Scout211

    Related, this was a fun read this morning:Ā  The FAFO for Trump’s personal attorneys.

    Trumpā€™s Plan to Save Himself: Scapegoat His Coup Lawyers

    DONALD TRUMPā€™S ATTORNEYS are preparing a legal plan to shovel blame onto the lawyers who aided his attempt to overturn the 2020 election, two sources familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone.

    Trump is on the cusp of being indicted over Jan. 6 and its surrounding events, and if the case goes to trial, his current legal team is preparing an ā€œadvice of counselā€ argument, attempting to pull blame away from the former president for any possible illegal activity. Plans for such a defense have been percolating since last year, the two sources say.

    . . .

    In the aftermath of Joe Bidenā€™s 2020 election victory, Trump had an armada of lawyers ā€” some officially representing him, and some simply aligned with him ā€” spreading unhinged conspiracy theories and pushing states to reverse the results:Ā Rudy Giuliani. Sidney Powell. John Eastman. The listĀ goes onĀ and on.

    The attorneys were acting on Trumpā€™s behalf. But inĀ thisĀ legal strategy, Team Trump would argue it was the lawyers leading Trump, rather than the other way around.

    ā€œIt is an argument the [former] president likes, and the team is on board with it,ā€ one Trump adviser bluntly says, then somewhat ominously adding: ā€œJohn [Eastman] and Rudy [Giuliani] gave a lot of counsel ā€¦ Other people can decide how sound it was.ā€

  6. 6.

    Chris

    Well, my last political prediction in 2020 was that Napoleon would rise from the grave, conquer the United States, establish a benevolent North American empire ruled from New Orleans, and drive 98% of American lawyers insane by forcing them to switch from common law to civil law.

    But that didn’t happen, so now I don’t make predictions anymore.

  7. 7.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Scout211:

    ‘MAGA’ continues to mean ‘Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.

    ETA: Can’t imagine why anyone would work for TFG.

  8. 8.

    piratedan

    from my understanding of the website, the dildo of consequences has been shipped and is still out for delivery, but something something about which carrier is actually performing the task….

  10. 10.

    JPL

    @Scout211: I knew they ate their own.

    I have two grand imps napping, so I’m sure it won’t happen before they wake up.Ā  Ā WP will have to let me know.

  11. 11.

    Ken

    @Scout211: I see we’re back to the “He’s not very bright and tends to follow the advice of the last person he heard” defense. A lot of his White House staff said that, after they had resigned.

  12. 12.

    narya

    W/r/t Trollito’s latest screed in the WSJ, in which he insists that Congress isn’t the boss of him, I would love to see Congress cut their salaries and the funding for the Court (i.e., for clerks) unless they file disclosures. No clerks for you! Congress could also defund their offices and the SC building, I bet.

  14. 14.

    Ken

    @piratedan: which carrier is actually performing the task

    Oh lord, it’s not stuck on a Yellow truck abandoned somewhere in eastern Montana, is it?

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    @Ken:

    Heā€™s not very bright and tends to follow the advice of the last person he heardā€ defense.

    He tends to listen to the people who tell him what he wants to hear.

  17. 17.

    Barbara

    @narya: Just defund their security detail.Ā  Seriously, I don’t want that, but Alito seems to believe that his “reign” is pursuant to divine right.

  18. 18.

    Falling Diphthong

    @Scout211: Given the pattern to enter Mar a Lago a lawyer and exit a co-defendent, I assume the current lawyers will soon find themselves hip deep in stuff Trump is cheerfully confessing they did that is technically illegal. (And that they may or may not have done; Trump just thought it sounded cool and didn’t need a second thought after the first one.)

  21. 21.

    schrodingers_cat

    OT: India is descending into a free for fall hellscape before the 2024 election. Two states are literally burning. Manipur (bordering Myanmar since May) and now Haryana, which borders Delhi.

  22. 22.

    MazeDancer

    As noted in Morning Thread today is Twitter Boycott Day. Sorry that Andrew Weissmann isn’t participating.

    But certainly tees up indictments.

    It will be hard for us boycotters if it happens. Willing to suffer for indictments, though.

  23. 23.

    lowtechcyclist

    @narya:

    A great idea! Also defund all cleaning and maintenance staff for the building. Let them vacuum the carpets or deal with the dirt, unclog any clogged toilets or hold it ’til they get home.

  25. 25.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    DONALD TRUMPā€™S ATTORNEYS are preparing a legal plan to shovel blame onto the lawyers who aided his attempt to overturn the 2020 election…

    That strategy has some chance, though not aimed at Sydney Powell, because no reasonable person takes her seriously. Come to think of it, might fail with Rudy too. John Eastman, now there’s a target.

  26. 26.

    Redshift

    Ms. Redshift and I have a long history of major US events happening while we’re on vacation (Reagan dying, Charlottesville, Ferguson, Epstein dying, etc.) We’re on our way to Iceland, in theory, our flight just got delayed again. So we’re thinking the latest Indictmas would be a perfect fit. But it doesn’t count until we take off, so if our luck holds, it won’t happen until after 3:25EDT.

  27. 27.

    PaulWartenberg

    I’ve seen reports that the foreperson stayed behind, which happens when the indictments need signature. Does that mean the announcement comes out TODAY or will Smith wait until tomorrow or the end of the week?

  29. 29.

    narya

    @Barbara:Ā @lowtechcyclist: I don’t think this Congress will go for it, but surely there is an aide somewhere who can sneak it into a larger appropriations bill! I truly have nothing good to say about him. My 88-year-old mother is also distressed at the shame he brings on Italians.

  30. 30.

    JaySinWA

    @Scout211: It’s hard to believe that T can maintain that stance, “I’ve been misled” clashes with his “I am always right” ego. I think he’s always on the verge of having a “You’re damn right I ordered the code red” stage.

  31. 31.

    hueyplong

    You’d think Trump’sĀ current lawyers might be given pause by the proposed strategy of blaming everything on his lawyers.

    But then the next Trump lawyers to peer clearly at the future will be the first.

  35. 35.

    p.a.

    @PaulWartenberg:

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:I would argue trumpā€™s defense plan to ā€œblame the lawyersā€ is going to be tricky since the lawyers were following HIS orders, and HE stood to gain from any success in the plot.

     

    One wonders if hisĀ currentĀ lawyers have an inkling of future events ifĀ thisĀ strategery fails.

  36. 36.

    smith

    Didn’t he have other lawyers telling him that a coup was a very bad idea? He can’t say he didn’t get good counsel — he received conflicting counsel. He’s the one who chose which ones to believe

    ETA: Also, if I’m remembering correctly, didn’t he keep casting about for lawyers who would tell him what he wanted to hear when he was told not to try a coup?

  40. 40.

    Scout211

    @JaySinWA: Itā€™s hard to believe that T can maintain that stance

    True, but I guess it has been successful in the past. And Trump has never been a truth-teller. Whatever lie works to his advantage, he will spew quite easily

    From the article:

    Several lawyers in Trumpā€™s ever-shifting legal orbit spent time both this and last year quietly studying past high-profile cases involving this particular line of defense. The attorneys tried to game out how such an argument would fare in front of a judge or a jury.

    I wonder which high-profile cases were successful in blaming their attorneys for bad advice.

  42. 42.

    Scout211

    @fancycwabs: For that strategy to seem remotely effective, Trump would have to change his story once he had new lawyers.

    Sure, but when has that ever been a problem for Trump? He changes stories over and over and over again.

  43. 43.

    MisterForkbeard

    @Redshift: Trump was indicted in NYC when we went on a short vacation. He was indicted on the documents case while we had a short staycation in early June.

    I went on vacation this last Sunday and I’m coming back Thursday, so clearly today or tomorrow is the day.

    And to think, BEFORE this year the rule was that if I took a 7+day vacation then my company stock price would go up at least 10%.

  46. 46.

    gvg

    @Scout211: I wonder how well that will play, after juries have seen evidence on his actively hiding classified docs from his lawyers who were trying to deliver them as required by law.Ā  And allowing that attorney to sign a document that they had searched and this was all they could find…

    This does not support the argument that the attorneys lead Trump IMO.

  47. 47.

    JPL

    From CNN. Paula Reid said the floorperson stayed and that happens when they are expecting an indictmen

     

    Edit what Paul said

  49. 49.

    Roger Moore

    @Scout211:Ā ā€‹
     

    Trumpā€™s Plan to Save Himself: Scapegoat His Coup Lawyers

    I’m sure the lawyers helping him with this defense will be shocked and horrified when the leopards start to eat their faces.

  54. 54.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Joy in FL: I actually logged into Twitter/X for the first time in months yesterday–to change the password on my dormant account, because Chrome’s password manager claimed it had been exposed in a data breach. But I was only in there long enough to get that done.

  56. 56.

    Roger Moore

    @Matt McIrvin:

    Instead of changing your password, you might want to consider deleting your account.Ā  If you leave a dormant account around, there’s always the chance it will be taken over by someone nefarious. I’ve seen it happen to people I know.

  57. 57.

    JaySinWA

    @Scout211: I’ve just been looking for examples, most are about insurance.

    An interesting point I see is that an “Advice of counsel” defence waives attorney client privilege in discovery.

    https://www.jshfirm.com/the-advice-of-counsel-defense-in-coverage-cases-you-might-be-waiving-more-than-you-realize/

    This could expose a whole lot of stuff, although some of it is already out there with charges that some of his lawyers were involved in helping T crime.

  58. 58.

    Roberto el oso

    On the way in which Trump uses his lawyers like tissue paper (discarding them once he’s betainted them sufficiently), and the way in which he continues to find more who think they’ll escape the curse — they’d have made wiser career choices if they’d become lawyers for a drug cartel.

  59. 59.

    mrmoshpotato

    @rikyrah:

    Dolt45 is a given. 

    I want all the rest of them. All of the co-conspirators. Yes, roll them up.

    And smoke them!

    On a serious note, why are vape/smoke shop signs SO BRIGHT?!Ā  Holy blinding cow, Batman!

  60. 60.

    Betty Cracker

    Related headlines:

    Trump’s indictments are having diminishing returns for his political fundraising

    Trump’s $100 million PAC has burned through nearly all of its cash

    Trump PAC Down to $4 Million Cash on Hand After Legal Fees

    Prediction: Trump will hold a Trump-a-Thon on OAN or Newsmax or possibly another second-tier wingnut channel we’ve never heard of. Telethons are a 70s throwback, so in his cheesy wheelhouse.

    Performers will include Kid Rock, Roseanne Barr, the “Growing Pains” and “Happy Days” child-actor has-beens, the country music asshole who sings the pro-lynching song, some people Trump fired on “The Apprentice” and possibly Kanye.

    They’ll offer lots of NFTs and MyPillows as pledge gifts and never deliver.

  69. 69.

    JPL

    I guess Anna bower is the person to follow

    I’m not on Twitter

    grand imps are up so my time is limited

  70. 70.

    JaySinWA

    @MazeDancer: OANN still has a web presence, so not completely dead yet. But apparently the Verizon decision was effective today. So no major cable outlets as of the first of August.

  72. 72.

    Jeffro

    @piratedan: from my understanding of the website, the dildo of consequences has been shipped and is still out for delivery, but something something about which carrier is actually performing the taskā€¦.

    fell out of my chair, thanksĀ  Ā =)

  73. 73.

    JWR

    @JPL:

    We shall see. Or not. But this says the same thing.

    26m ago / 12:14 PM PDT
    The eyebrow-raising detail from today’s grand jury meeting
    Hayley Miller

    Grand jurors began leaving the courthouse today around 2 p.m. ET. Interestingly, the foreperson remained behind, CNN reported. (The foreperson is the juror charged with overseeing the jury. They have an administrative role that includes, for example, signing indictments.)

  75. 75.

    Steve in the ATL

    @MazeDancer:Ā @Betty Cracker: when I sat down to eat breakfast in the hotel lounge this morning, I was pleased to see that the tv was not tuned to Fox News. Ā Alas, my pleasure was short lived. Ā It was a program called the National Desk which was all stories about alleged Biden failures and alleged Biden corruptionā€”I believe we call these ā€œprojectionā€ā€”and theĀ de rigeurĀ smearing of Hunter Biden. Ā Sounded like it was geared toward the many, many people who Fox News to be a hippie left wing radical site.

    Turns out itā€™s the Sinclair broadcasting ā€œnewsā€ channel.

    Looking forward to getting a survey from Hilton about my stayā€¦.

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    @Betty Cracker: if there is an effective GOP primary attack to be made against trump, it is “he’s not using your hard-earned dough to beat Biden…this ‘billionaire’ is using your donations to pay his lawyers (and there’s no end in sight of that).Ā  Don’t be a sucker”

  77. 77.

    laura

    @rikyrah: Same here. I want a sprawling Silverado Savings style indictment with arrest warrants and indictments from DC to state after state dropped like so many pianos on the heads of every party to the conspiracies and the large adult children and in-laws. I want perp walks and booking photos. I want pants shitting from the Boardrooms and think tanks. I want shock and surprise from the punditocracy,Ā  and pissy pettiness from the stenographers. I want a Justice Kaboom. I want a pony and I want to buy some fresh highlighter pens for when I hate read and diagram the indictment. And I want it now, like a common Veruca Salt.

  78. 78.

    Ken

    @JWR: The foreperson is the juror charged with overseeing the jury. They have an administrative role that includes, for example, signing indictments.

    I feel such pity for them. Can you imagine doing that for hours, your hand cramping, and they’re still bringing out papers?

  79. 79.

    Jeffro

    PS the NYT’s headline article at the moment is, “A Run of Strong Data Buoys Biden on the Economy: Voters continue to rate President Biden poorly on the economy but there are signs that the national mood is beginning to improve”

    I never thought I’d see the day…

  83. 83.

    tobie

    @Betty Cracker: Donny going belly-up and bankrupt again. Sorry….there’s no real point to this response. It just felt good to heap scorn on him. Back to being serious…

  84. 84.

    rikyrah

    THIS ENTIRE THREAD…

     

    clap clap clap..bringing receipts.

     

    Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones) tweeted at 5:14 PM on Mon, Jul 31, 2023: There’s been much gaslighting & moderate justifying of the new Florida social studies standards, people stating the “clarifications” were designed to show Black resilience, or were just “facts.” So, I thought I’d compare the African-American history standards to the Holocaust’s. (https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1686138238971351040?t=rSJ90wuu8pGgNbmiTCp2Dg&s=03)

     

    I would hope that a FrontPager would take a closer look and highlight this in a post.

  86. 86.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Joy in FL:Ā ā€‹
      The point is that users provide the content, and, if the sane ones stop, it will only be racists and nazis. Then who will want to buy ads?

  87. 87.

    MazeDancer

    @JaySinWA: Maybe they need less stuff/space just for the web. Nice pics of empty rooms and packed boxes on Twitter in the past few days.

    But google search showed they are limping along online. Probably being hidden will amp up their hate.

  89. 89.

    UncleEbeneezer

    Can I make predictions repeatedly for two and half years and then demand we change the subject when we are right on the verge of having them proven definitively wrong? Ā Asking for a friend bunch of very online, Garland-haters.

  90. 90.

    tobie

    I just saw this on Mastodon:

    2/ And via Emptywheel:

    This is an important point: DOJ may keep this sealed.

    Especially if Trump has co-conspirators who’ll be arrested.

    We may not learn for days.

  91. 91.

    trollhattan

    Since we’re discussing Trump and his enablers, Sam Alito, everybody. He is not happy with You People thinking anybody has control over SCOTUS.

    Last week, Justice Samuel Alito returned to a favored forum ā€” theĀ Wall Street JournalĀ op-ed page. For decades, the page has been an invigorating mix of insightful essays, right-wing boilerplate, and occasional conspiracy theories. This morningā€™s headlines include ā€œClimate Change Obsession Is a Real Mental Disorderā€ and ā€œFDR Made the Depression Great Again.ā€ Now theĀ JournalĀ appears to be hosting a new genre: historical fiction.

    In an interview, Alito declared, ā€œI know this is a controversial view, but Iā€™m willing to say it. No provision in the Constitution gives them the authority to regulate the Supreme Court ā€” period.ā€ The mix of self-congratulation and tendentiousness was distinctly Alitoā€™s, familiar to anyone who read theĀ DobbsĀ ruling.

    This ā€œcontroversial viewā€ is wrong as history and law. It also marks a startling intervention by a justice in an ongoing legislative fight. Alito spoke soon after the Senate Judiciary Committee advanced legislation that would require the Court to adopt a binding code of ethics, while imposing stricter rules for recusal and disclosures for gifts and travel. Were such a law to pass, surely it would wind up at the justiceā€™s desk.

    Alitoā€™s pronouncement ignores the long history of congressional regulation of the Supreme Court.
    –Brennan Center

  92. 92.

    Ruckus

    @MazeDancer:

    Since elon bought twit I have practiced staying off of it as much as possible. I believe that last week I spent less than 5 minutes on it and only then because someone here mentioned a twit to read.

    I’m a better person for it.

  94. 94.

    Roger Moore

    @Betty Cracker:

    Trumpā€™s indictments are having diminishing returns for his political fundraising

    This is one of those things that shouldn’t be surprising but somehow is anyway.Ā  I’ve gotten so used to thinking of Trump’s supporters as mindlessly supporting him no matter what he does that it comes as a mild surprise when their support slackens.Ā  I guess they’re either running low in disposable cash or just are just tired of the endless fundraising demands.Ā  I can totally sympathize with the latter; it doesn’t take much for me to get frustrated with begging emails.

  96. 96.

    trollhattan

    @Ruckus: Still follow key Twit accounts for soccer and Ukraine, but not as a registered user. Browser function of pages seems to be working again but Android Twitter throws up posts that aren’t date-sorted, so I’ll see 2021 posts long before any 2023 posts.

    That last engineer, I hope he/she is getting paid up front.

  101. 101.

    Roger Moore

    @Jeffro:

    Voters continue to rate President Biden poorly on the economy but there are signs that the national mood is beginning to improve

    Yeah, the economy is so good the media is running out of doom and gloom stories to keep people depressed about it.

  104. 104.

    UncleEbeneezer

    @rikyrah: I remember calling out someone at LG&M a couple years ago (Murc, I think) who was insisting that Racism is only the inter-personal type and that it is wrong to call Redlining, Voter Suppression etc., (in other words, policies) “Racism” because that’s not how most people think of when they think of what the word means. Ā I told him that he was echoing the exact same argument that the GOP loves for trying to define Racism in a way that is so narrow that almost nothing actually qualifies. Ā And here they are trying to codify precisely that obfuscation into educational standards.

  109. 109.

    Roger Moore

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    Can I make predictions repeatedly for two and half years and then demand we change the subject when we are right on the verge of having them proven definitively wrong?

    No, but you are allowed to move the goal posts by claiming whatever is making your prediction wrong is too little, too late.

  110. 110.

    mrmoshpotato

    @JaySinWA:

    OANN still has a web presence, so not completely dead yet. But apparently the Verizon decision was effective today. So no major cable outlets as of the first of August. 

    Just hearing about this.Ā  Awesome.Ā  Don’t let the door hit ya…

  111. 111.

    tobie

    @Elizabelle: Stone, Flynn, Eastman, Chesebro, Jr, and for good measure I will throw in a few women’s names now: Hope Hicks, the execrable Kellyanne Conway, and the still-lying Kayleigh McEnany. I’ve given up hope that Jared and Ivanka will every be indicted for defrauding the US.

  113. 113.

    RaflW

    “Trump Meddler in Michigan, Matthew DePerno, Is Charged in Election Breach
    A key figure in a multistate effort to overturn the 2020 election, Mr. DePerno lost his race for Michigan attorney general in 2022. He later finished second to lead the stateā€™s Republican Party.”

    Arraigned on four criminal charges. Shoes keep dropping.

  114. 114.

    Bill Arnold

    @trollhattan:

    He is not happy with You People thinking anybody has control over SCOTUS.

    Power of the Purse.
    Remove all the indoor plumbing at the SCOTUS building, and put an outhouse in the front of the building.

  116. 116.

    MisterForkbeard

    @tobie: This strikes me as somewhat likely, in fact. It might be a couple of days before we can officially celebrate.

  117. 117.

    Elizabelle

    @tobie:

    Iā€™ve given up hope that Jared and Ivanka will every be indicted for defrauding the US.

    I haven’t! Ā Those two have not gone subterranean just to maintain Jared’s ghostly pallor.

    I don’t know about Ivanka, but truly think Jared is in the sights. Ā Maybe they are studying the foreign money trail and Covid relief companies very, very carefully. Ā Lot of co-conspirators.

  119. 119.

    hueyplong

    The waiting is easier on us than it is on the defendants. So enjoy each moment of anticipation.

  122. 122.

    Bill Arnold

    @Elizabelle:

    May Roger Stone be among them.

    Yes! My loathing for that man presents as low key; it is powerful.
    Definitely a need for many many arrests.

  124. 124.

    Elizabelle

    @rikyrah: Ā I put up a good WaPost gift link on the earlier thread.

    Story of the Miller family, who recently bought a plantation house (and remaining 10 acres) southwest of Roanoke, VA. Ā For family reunions. Ā  And learned that their family was not only from the area; their ancestors had been enslaved. Ā On that very property. Ā Owned by two bachelor brothers.

    Discussion of how the older generations did not want to pass along the trauma of their experience to the younger, and how these stories died out.

    WaPost, 2022, gift link:
    An old Virginia plantation, a new owner and a family legacy unveiled

  127. 127.

    hueyplong

    Enjoying contemplation of the reaction at Trump’s house if Meadows or some other high profile co-conspirator is not indicted.

  128. 128.

    Trivia Man

    @narya: 28 years on, still a big part of my life

    for a curated song list, Spotify has several ā€œ30 days of Deadā€ playlists.

    As we all know, itā€™s Jehovaā€™s favorite choir.

  129. 129.

    Subsole

    @narya:

    Yeah.

    Leonard and Harlan and the rest of theirĀ pimpsĀ already pay their way. They don’t need my dollars.

  130. 130.

    tobie

    This is off topic: I was driving on I-95 North of DC and a Virginia car passed me by with a huge blue and yellow strip running from front to back (Ukraine’s colors) and a license plate reading HIMARS. I couldn’t decide if this was a defense contractor who’s profited from the war or a Ukrainian patriot.

  134. 134.

    Ruckus

    @NotMax:

    It’s actually not just the x.

    I find that my world is, now that I’m for all intents twit/x free, much more enjoyable.

  137. 137.

    Bill Arnold

    @JWR:

    Since Twitter is now š•, why are they still called tweets?

    It’s amazing. The newly hired Twitter X “CEO” surely cannot have approved of the name change. I mean, “Tweet’ was (still is) literally in the dictionary:
    tweet / noun
    1 : a chirping note
    2 : a post made on the Twitter online message service
    And also as a verb.
    Musk threw that away.

  138. 138.

    VFX Lurker

    @Subsole:

    I heard India is actually not exporting rice this year.

    What, and I can not stress this enough, is going on over there?

    cain posted about this a few days ago:

    Not sure if yā€™all are aware ā€“ but India has limited exports of non-basmati rice because of the torrential monsoon season.

    Rice especially sona masoori is super important to us in south India. There is panick buying going on because nobody is sure how long this ban is going to last. Iā€™ll say that if hte future is that these bans become common place ā€“ the pressure is going to be on especially by Indians and asians to put pressure on working on the climate problem.

    As stated, climate change is going to have a big impact on our food supply, and that means our culture as well.. Shit like a Georgia peach festival is goign to go down in flames because there wont be any peaches.

    Climate change should be the biggest issue for conservatism ā€“ but these folks are just doing late stage capitalism.

    By the time they get it, they either wonā€™t give a shit because they are going home to Jesus, want to accelerate it because they think Jesus is coming or be happy because minorities are gonna get it in the shorts.

  139. 139.

    Betty Cracker

    Did y’all know that yesterday, DeSantis sent a snotty letter to VP Harris accusing her of “disparaging the state” and inviting her to come back to FL and participate in a roundtable discussion of the state’s whitewashed black history education standards?

    Well, Harris did come back to FL today, but not to talk to DeMeatball’s clown-ass minions but rather to address an AME convention in Orlando. And during that speech, she told DeSantis to go pound sand.

    Good for her! I’ve got no time to post about it, and maybe this link won’t work unless you’re an Orlando Sentinel subscriber, but that’s where I read it.

  140. 140.

    narya

    @Trivia Man: Yeah, I’m on the email list, too–but I had deleted Spotify from my phone. Might have to reconsider for a few days . . . Also trying to figure out how to upload shows to Apple Music; I don’t have the CDs but my friend might, and that might be the thing to try. The shows are good for road trips, especially (my friend does all the driving), though I draw the line at Pigpen’s caterwauling, and, sometimes, drums/space.

  141. 141.

    Roger Moore

    @Bill Arnold:

    The newly hired Twitter X CEO surely cannot have approved of the name change.

    The new CEO is there to manage day-to-day operations and take the blame for the inevitable, catastrophic failures of Musk’s ideas.Ā  Musk is 100% still calling the shots.

  142. 142.

    smith

    From the Guardian’s live blog:

    Donald TrumpĀ said he expects to be indicted at 5pm EST today as part of special counselĀ Jack Smithā€™s investigation into his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

  143. 143.

    MazeDancer

    @JWR:

    What are tweets called? Tweets.

    No one outside the cult cares what Elmo wants. To the sane folks, it’s always going to be Ā Twitter and Tweets.

    Kinda like Sixth Avenue. The only place one hears “Avenue of the Americas” is if one is having to write down a mailing address of a business located on 6th.

    Not actually sure want Musk wants. Possibly Xeets.

  144. 144.

    Brachiator

    @rikyrah:

    There was one item in the Ida Bae thread that caught my attention.

    Sugar making, for instance, required a class of trained enslaved experts who supervised the boiling process. They sold for high prices.

    It’s really hard to see any benefit of slavery here.

  145. 145.

    rikyrah

    @Subsole:

    I watch someone on TikTok.

     

    As she explained it..

    India has had more than a few weather events that have affected the rice crop.

    They are keeping it in order to make sure that they can feed their people.

  146. 146.

    Ruckus

    @trollhattan:

    I’m not sure, mainly because I haven’t heard of a major fire in SF, but it seems like maybe elon is the last vestige of engineer left. Which does not bode well for anything, because I’m pretty sure that he couldn’t find his way out of a wet paper bag. I have heard someone who recently attended an electric car discussion about the future and heard him speak and was rather surprised that he actually made sense.

  149. 149.

    M31

    oh oh oh do I have enough cake ingredients?

    tick tock motherfuckers, enjoy your time in the slammer, all of you

  150. 150.

    rikyrah

    @JWR:

    Since Twitter is nowĀ š•,Ā why are they still called tweets?

     

    As a Chicagoan…..

    The same reason why it’s the Sears Tower…

    And Comiskey Park…

     

    LOL

  153. 153.

    rikyrah

    @Betty Cracker:

     

    Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) tweeted at 1:34 PM on Tue, Aug 01, 2023:
    Holy shit. VP Kamala Harris just responded directly to Ron DeSantis in Florida now: “I will tell you there is no roundtable, no lecture, no invitation we will accept to debate an undeniable fact: there were no redeeming qualities of slavery.” THIS is how you handle a racist.
    (https://twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1686445208656060416?t=HeCZ1RuRD7V7tyP8uKElcQ&s=03)

  155. 155.

    Elizabelle

    @smith: Ā  Hmmmm. Ā Trump has jumped the gun before, no? Ā And maybe it’s a warning to his co-conspirators. Ā Leave the house. Ā Make yourselves hard to find. Ā Now.

    To see.

  156. 156.

    Jeffro

    @Ruckus:

    @trollhattan:

    I deleted it off of my phone a few days ago and am noticeably happier, more focused, etc.

    It’s a bit of a shame b/c the EduTwitter community was well established and I loved seeing what other folks were doing, but we’ll find other ways to connect!

  159. 159.

    cain

    @JaySinWA: well that’s perfect, there is only what? Fox News? Hopefully cable will end whatever gimmick they have with Fox people.

    I suppose it’s there because a whole lot of folks are making money from MAGA Fox watchers – can’t imagine they aren’t poor from all the money they are giving out.

  162. 162.

    Roger Moore

    @Brachiator:

    Itā€™s really hard to see any benefit of slavery here.

    Spoken like someone who doesn’t think he’d be a plantation owner.Ā  The kind of people who assume they’d own dozens of slaves naturally disagree.

  163. 163.

    JWR

    @Betty Cracker:

    I just read this about Harris’s FL vacay over at Politico:

    ā€œShe came to Florida to attack us, and sheā€™s trying to attack me. But sheā€™s really attacking the people that worked hard on this,ā€ DeSantis told reporters at an unrelated campaign event in New Hampshire on Tuesday morning. ā€œI think itā€™s wrong to let lies be perpetuated. Itā€™s wrong to let false narratives stand.ā€

    He’s just one step away from taking TFG’s full martyr position.Ā As for the last two sentences, who knows WTF he’s talking about?

  165. 165.

    Elizabelle

    @smith: Ā Has Redshift’s flight departed? Ā (He says he always misses these things.)

    No bubbly chilled. Ā Do have some hefeweizen. Ā Will have to do.

  166. 166.

    Elizabelle

    @Jeffro: Ā Smithmas. Ā On the first day of Smithmas …

    I hope Jack Smith is just getting started. Ā And Garland fits right in.

  168. 168.

    Roger Moore

    @JWR:

    As for the last two sentences, who knows WTF heā€™s talking about?

    I assume he’s implying that the history we have been teaching- the part that focuses on how terrible slavery was- is just a bunch of lies and false narratives.Ā  Instead, we need to correct the focus with something like Florida’s new curriculum that focuses on how great slavery was.

  170. 170.

    Jeffro

    @Betty Cracker: given Ron’s nearly-complete implosion, we’ll probably never see a Harris/DeSantis debate, even in 2028.

    But Lordy, she would flay him soooo badly…

  171. 171.

    Ruckus

    @JWR:

    Don’t try to make sense of any of it, you’ll just give your self a massive headache and dare I say, possibly a tumor….

  172. 172.

    Doug R

    @Scout211: Seeing as good lawyers take copious notes and smart ones like Michael Cohen recorded EVERYTHING, is it really that great an idea to try to throw the lawyers under the bus?

  174. 174.

    JWR

    @MazeDancer:

    I saw one of those Twitter screenshots, and the reply box says “Tweet your reply”, so it still looks official. That’s what I was asking about. But I’m sure a genius like Elno will figure it all out.

  175. 175.

    Steeplejack

    @trollhattan:

    Switch your URLs for regular follows to Nitter.net for proper date sorting. Might have to select “tweets and replies” rather than “tweets” alone.

  177. 177.

    Shalimar

    @Ken: “Tends to follow the advice of the last person he heard” can also mean “stops calling people for advice once someone advises him to do what he was going to do anyway.”

  178. 178.

    smith

    According to the Guardian:

    2m ago22.08Ā BST

    Prosecutors have entered the Washington DC courthouse and a new ā€œgrand jury returnsā€ has been added to the docket, Politicoā€™s Kyle Cheney writes.

  180. 180.

    Ruckus

    @Jeffro:

    I was going to say, “You have it on your phone?”

    And then it hit me, I’m retired! I don’t have to work/play on my phone all day. Sorry, but retirement is nice, I only wish I could have done it about 50 yr ago….

  182. 182.

    Kay

    @rikyrah:

    I don’t know the charge but Ithought they would never bring charges related to J6 for Trump and/or the cronies. I think this is related to J6.

  185. 185.

    mrmoshpotato

    @M31: Cherry. Turnovers.

    Puff pastry and canned cherry pie filling.Ā  Fill them to almost bursting.

    Take that store-bought turnovers!

  186. 186.

    smith

    Now reporting an indictment has been returned, but sealed. Not sure I can stand the suspense.

  187. 187.

    Elizabelle

    @MazeDancer: Ā Where’s WaterGirl? Ā Is she baking?

    I hope we have a platoon of indictments. Ā You get an indictment, and you get an indictment, and you get an indictment ….

  190. 190.

    mrmoshpotato

    @rikyrah:

    As a Chicagoanā€¦..

    The same reason why itā€™s the Sears Towerā€¦

    And Comiskey Parkā€¦

    LOL

    Say ’em loud! Say ’em proud!

  194. 194.

    trollhattan

    School spree-killing averted? Seems possible.

    Police in Tennessee have shot an armed man who they say tried and failed to enter a Jewish school in Memphis before firing his weapon outside it.

    No-one at the Margolin Hebrew Academy-Feinstone Yeshiva of the South was injured in Monday’s incident, which began after noon (18:00 BST). The suspect was later stopped by police and shot as he exited his vehicle. He is in hospital in critical condition.

    A lawmaker representing the area said the gunman was a former student.

    Congressman Steve Cohen also alleged the man was himself Jewish, though he did not specify the source of his information. “I am pleased the academy had effective security and that the police acted quickly to protect students,” Mr Cohen, a Democrat, said in a statement.

    A spokesperson for the Secure Community Network, an organisation that works with the school, also said the suspect was Jewish, according to CNN. They called the incident “personal in nature”.

    Students at the co-educational school, which serves primary and secondary students, are still on summer vacation, and it is unclear how many people were on campus at the time.

    In a statement to the WHBQ local station, the school said the suspect could not gain entry, had a “brief confrontation” with a contract worker and fired at the worker while retreating.

    Memphis police chief CJ Davis said officers had “mitigated a potential mass shooting situation”. The suspect was armed with a handgun, assistant police chief Don Crowe said at a news conference.

    The man is said to have fled the scene in a maroon pickup truck with California licence plates, but police tracked the vehicle to the adjoining city of Bartlett shortly thereafter. The driver got out of the vehicle still armed, and a Memphis police officer fired his weapon and struck the man, Mr Crowe said.

    America.

  200. 200.

    Jeffro

    if this indictment turns out to be trump and dozens of his co-conspirators getting rolled up like the B-movie mobsters that they are, I will probably not sober up until Labor Day. Ā I’m just sayin’…

  201. 201.

    PaulWartenberg

    Indictments are in but no names given, and no full details. Jack Smith is holding a press conference later tonight. So far it’s looking like three names attached to the indictments.

  204. 204.

    smith

    TFG just released a statement, but it’s just the same old gobbledegook. I was hoping he’d blab about what’s in the indictment.

  207. 207.

    Ruckus

    @Scout211:

    He’s been doing this for his entire life. Fucking up and then trying to blame anyone/everyone else.

    I hope that the shit hits the fan and he’s the only one standing in front of it.

  208. 208.

    Elizabelle

    May I remind you that we have a full moon tonight? The sturgeon moon. And we have a blue moon on August 30.

    And we have the time, and appetite, for indictment upon indictment. Ā  I want the congressional enablers Ā to get their own indictments, too. Ā We can be patient.

  209. 209.

    MazeDancer

    Trump haa been indicted. aom 4 counts.

    Because I knew Twitter Boycott Day would produce Indictments, I was prepared.

    See some folks folding on Blue Sky. Not me. Staying strong.

    Will MSNBC tonight.

  212. 212.

    Ceci n est pas mon nym

    @Jeffro:Ā ā€‹

    if this indictment turns out to be trump and dozens of his co-conspirators getting rolled up like the B-movie mobsters that they are,

    @HeleninEire:Ā ā€‹

    All indications are that Fani Willis is going with RICO and potentially dozens of names. I think that will be the indictment we’ve been waiting for. Even, may I dare hope, a few sitting members of Congress?

  214. 214.

    Kay

    More charges:

    Former attorney general candidate Matt DePerno and ex-state Rep. Daire Rendon are facing criminal charges for their alleged roles in an effort to access Michigan voting machines after the 2020 presidential election.
    Special prosecutor D.J. Hilson confirmed the charges Tuesday afternoon, saying his investigation into the handling of tabulators in Michigan was “ongoing and not over,” which could mean other individuals will be charged.
    “The charging decision was the result of a thorough decision-making process by an independent citizens grand jury,” Hilson said in a statement. “This citizens grand jury carefully listened to the sworn testimony and analyzed the evidence as required by law and returned a decision to indict each of the defendants.”

  215. 215.

    CaseyL

    Hopefully, the Jack Smith statement will give a few more details.

    Like, what are the counts? (I’m trying to remember if counts can contain multiple charges, or if it’s the other way around. Four doesn’t seem like enough, is what I’m saying.)

    And, is anyone else indicted?\

    ETA: 4 counts; there can be many charges.Ā  And 6 un-named co-conspirators also indicted.

  219. 219.

    Jeffro

    WHERE’S OUR APOLOGY, GOP ELECTED OFFICIALS/MURDOCH AND FOX NEWS???

    scum-sucking enablers!!!

  228. 228.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Jeffro:

    if this indictment turns out to be trump and dozens of his co-conspirators getting rolled up like the B-movie mobsters that they are

    Please do not shittalk B-movies like that. šŸ˜

  230. 230.

    Jeffro

    Note to all media outlets and talking heads, including the brain-dead crew at Fox: if you have any – any – House GOP members on your show tonight, or if you don’t have Adam Schiff or Liz Cheney on, you’re worse than worthless and need to just go jump in the nearest volcano.

  231. 231.

    Elizabelle

    Smithmas. And Wine O’Clock. Ā Tra la la.

    Loved the NBC Special Report news, and then Lester himself. Ā And all their DC press corpse types.

    “Yes. Ā These are very serious charges.”

    Kristin Fucking Welker talking about him being 37 points ahead of Ron DeSantis. Ā It’s all political with this bitch.

    She is going to get me to turn NBC off. Ā On my phone. Ā And: Ā gone. Ā Enough, Kristin or Kristen or whatever. Ā At least you’re not prattling on about how unpopular Joe Biden is. And I will never know if you do.

  234. 234.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Elizabelle:

    May I remind you that we have a full moon tonight? The sturgeon moon. 

    A bunch of Trump trash should be slapped with sturgeon.

  238. 238.

    Trivia Man

    @narya: the Relisten app has all of the shows for free, many versions of each. Also many other jam bands available there.

  240. 240.

    Wapiti

    @narya: Have it tied to getting their disclosures done on time, complete and accurate. No or bad disclosure: lose your clerks.

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