To watch for today in 1/6 DC indictment:
-who is the assigned judge
-other codefendants with Trump
-is financial fraud charged, with forfeiture of PAC money
-is use of force charged (seditious conspiracy/insurrection)— Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads)đ» (@AWeissmann_) August 1, 2023
Please please please get us a solid no-nonsense non-trump-y judge.
Open thread.
WaterGirl
Seems like today might be the day.
Omnes Omnibus
Predictions? Several people will complain that it’s too late, not enough, won’t mean anything unless Trump is broken on the wheel, etc.
WaterGirl
@Omnes Omnibus: You can’t go wrong with that one!
Scout211
Related, this was a fun read this morning:Â The FAFO for Trump’s personal attorneys.
Trumpâs Plan to Save Himself: Scapegoat His Coup Lawyers
schrodingers_cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Agreed. Doomerism sells. It makes you popular on social media and many have made lucrative careers out of it.
Chris
Well, my last political prediction in 2020 was that Napoleon would rise from the grave, conquer the United States, establish a benevolent North American empire ruled from New Orleans, and drive 98% of American lawyers insane by forcing them to switch from common law to civil law.
But that didn’t happen, so now I don’t make predictions anymore.
lowtechcyclist
@Scout211:
‘MAGA’ continues to mean ‘Make Attorneys Get Attorneys.
ETA: Can’t imagine why anyone would work for TFG.
piratedan
from my understanding of the website, the dildo of consequences has been shipped and is still out for delivery, but something something about which carrier is actually performing the task….
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris: Were you licking toads in those days?
JPL
@Scout211: I knew they ate their own.
I have two grand imps napping, so I’m sure it won’t happen before they wake up.  WP will have to let me know.
Ken
@Scout211: I see we’re back to the “He’s not very bright and tends to follow the advice of the last person he heard” defense. A lot of his White House staff said that, after they had resigned.
narya
W/r/t Trollito’s latest screed in the WSJ, in which he insists that Congress isn’t the boss of him, I would love to see Congress cut their salaries and the funding for the Court (i.e., for clerks) unless they file disclosures. No clerks for you! Congress could also defund their offices and the SC building, I bet.
Chris
@Omnes Omnibus:
It was 2020. That seemed very much like the kind of bugfuck insanity that actually might happen at the time!
Ken
Oh lord, it’s not stuck on a Yellow truck abandoned somewhere in eastern Montana, is it?
WaterGirl
@Ken:
He tends to listen to the people who tell him what he wants to hear.
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris: So that’s a yes on the toad licking?
Barbara
@narya: Just defund their security detail. Seriously, I don’t want that, but Alito seems to believe that his “reign” is pursuant to divine right.
Falling Diphthong
@Scout211: Given the pattern to enter Mar a Lago a lawyer and exit a co-defendent, I assume the current lawyers will soon find themselves hip deep in stuff Trump is cheerfully confessing they did that is technically illegal. (And that they may or may not have done; Trump just thought it sounded cool and didn’t need a second thought after the first one.)
Chris
@Omnes Omnibus:
It’s not a no, at any rate.
Maxim
I am hopeful, but also afraid to get my hopes up too far.
schrodingers_cat
OT: India is descending into a free for fall hellscape before the 2024 election. Two states are literally burning. Manipur (bordering Myanmar since May) and now Haryana, which borders Delhi.
MazeDancer
As noted in Morning Thread today is Twitter Boycott Day. Sorry that Andrew Weissmann isn’t participating.
But certainly tees up indictments.
It will be hard for us boycotters if it happens. Willing to suffer for indictments, though.
lowtechcyclist
@narya:
A great idea! Also defund all cleaning and maintenance staff for the building. Let them vacuum the carpets or deal with the dirt, unclog any clogged toilets or hold it ’til they get home.
Roberto el oso
@lowtechcyclist: it is a marvel. A far shrewder career move would be to work for a drug cartel.
Mr. Bemused Senior
That strategy has some chance, though not aimed at Sydney Powell, because no reasonable person takes her seriously. Come to think of it, might fail with Rudy too. John Eastman, now there’s a target.
Redshift
Ms. Redshift and I have a long history of major US events happening while we’re on vacation (Reagan dying, Charlottesville, Ferguson, Epstein dying, etc.) We’re on our way to Iceland, in theory, our flight just got delayed again. So we’re thinking the latest Indictmas would be a perfect fit. But it doesn’t count until we take off, so if our luck holds, it won’t happen until after 3:25EDT.
PaulWartenberg
I’ve seen reports that the foreperson stayed behind, which happens when the indictments need signature. Does that mean the announcement comes out TODAY or will Smith wait until tomorrow or the end of the week?
PaulWartenberg
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
I would argue trump’s defense plan to “blame the lawyers” is going to be tricky since the lawyers were following HIS orders, and HE stood to gain from any success in the plot.
narya
@Barbara:Â @lowtechcyclist: I don’t think this Congress will go for it, but surely there is an aide somewhere who can sneak it into a larger appropriations bill! I truly have nothing good to say about him. My 88-year-old mother is also distressed at the shame he brings on Italians.
JaySinWA
@Scout211: It’s hard to believe that T can maintain that stance, “I’ve been misled” clashes with his “I am always right” ego. I think he’s always on the verge of having a “You’re damn right I ordered the code red” stage.
hueyplong
You’d think Trump’s current lawyers might be given pause by the proposed strategy of blaming everything on his lawyers.
But then the next Trump lawyers to peer clearly at the future will be the first.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@PaulWartenberg: yes, it’s a bit thin, but what else does he have? God anointed me? That probably won’t fly.đ
Elizabelle
@Redshift: Â Happy Jet Trails! Â Enjoy!
Omnes Omnibus
@Chris: Ah, maintaining the mystery.
p.a.
@PaulWartenberg:
One wonders if his current lawyers have an inkling of future events if this strategery fails.
smith
Didn’t he have other lawyers telling him that a coup was a very bad idea? He can’t say he didn’t get good counsel — he received conflicting counsel. He’s the one who chose which ones to believe
ETA: Also, if I’m remembering correctly, didn’t he keep casting about for lawyers who would tell him what he wanted to hear when he was told not to try a coup?
OverTwistWillie
…the social media site formerly known as Twitter
fancycwabs
@Scout211: For that strategy to seem remotely effective, Trump would have to change his story once he had new lawyers.
rikyrah
Dolt45 is a given.
I want all the rest of them. All of the co-conspirators. Yes, roll them up.
Scout211
True, but I guess it has been successful in the past. And Trump has never been a truth-teller. Whatever lie works to his advantage, he will spew quite easily
From the article:
I wonder which high-profile cases were successful in blaming their attorneys for bad advice.
WaterGirl
@PaulWartenberg: If you are correct and there is a signature on the indictment, I think that means he is indicted today.
That does not necessary mean that it will be announced publicly today.
Scout211
Sure, but when has that ever been a problem for Trump? He changes stories over and over and over again.
MisterForkbeard
@Redshift: Trump was indicted in NYC when we went on a short vacation. He was indicted on the documents case while we had a short staycation in early June.
I went on vacation this last Sunday and I’m coming back Thursday, so clearly today or tomorrow is the day.
And to think, BEFORE this year the rule was that if I took a 7+day vacation then my company stock price would go up at least 10%.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: Damn it, those were going to be *my* predictions! Now I’m all pre-disappointed and shit.
bbleh
@rikyrah: Roll! Them! Up! Roll! Them! Up!
gvg
@Scout211: I wonder how well that will play, after juries have seen evidence on his actively hiding classified docs from his lawyers who were trying to deliver them as required by law. And allowing that attorney to sign a document that they had searched and this was all they could find…
This does not support the argument that the attorneys lead Trump IMO.
JPL
From CNN. Paula Reid said the floorperson stayed and that happens when they are expecting an indictmen
Edit what Paul said
trollhattan
Is Susan Collins around to remind us “he’s learned his lesson”?
Roger Moore
@Scout211:Â â
I’m sure the lawyers helping him with this defense will be shocked and horrified when the leopards start to eat their faces.
Joy in FL
@MazeDancer: I had forgotten about boycotting X today. Thanks for the reminder.
JPL
@WaterGirl: trump will announce it. He can’t help himself
narya
Also, for those who celebrate, Happy Days Between.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: To be fair, I used up a lot of them.
Matt McIrvin
@Joy in FL: I actually logged into Twitter/X for the first time in months yesterday–to change the password on my dormant account, because Chrome’s password manager claimed it had been exposed in a data breach. But I was only in there long enough to get that done.
Roger Moore
@trollhattan:Â â
In fairness to Sen. Collins, Trump has learned his lesson. It’s just the lesson he learned is that the Republican Party would cover for him no matter what he did.
Roger Moore
@Matt McIrvin:
Instead of changing your password, you might want to consider deleting your account. If you leave a dormant account around, there’s always the chance it will be taken over by someone nefarious. I’ve seen it happen to people I know.
JaySinWA
@Scout211: I’ve just been looking for examples, most are about insurance.
An interesting point I see is that an “Advice of counsel” defence waives attorney client privilege in discovery.
https://www.jshfirm.com/the-advice-of-counsel-defense-in-coverage-cases-you-might-be-waiving-more-than-you-realize/
This could expose a whole lot of stuff, although some of it is already out there with charges that some of his lawyers were involved in helping T crime.
Roberto el oso
On the way in which Trump uses his lawyers like tissue paper (discarding them once he’s betainted them sufficiently), and the way in which he continues to find more who think they’ll escape the curse — they’d have made wiser career choices if they’d become lawyers for a drug cartel.
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah:
And smoke them!
On a serious note, why are vape/smoke shop signs SO BRIGHT?! Holy blinding cow, Batman!
Betty Cracker
Related headlines:
Trump’s indictments are having diminishing returns for his political fundraising
Trump’s $100 million PAC has burned through nearly all of its cash
Trump PAC Down to $4 Million Cash on Hand After Legal Fees
Prediction: Trump will hold a Trump-a-Thon on OAN or Newsmax or possibly another second-tier wingnut channel we’ve never heard of. Telethons are a 70s throwback, so in his cheesy wheelhouse.
Performers will include Kid Rock, Roseanne Barr, the “Growing Pains” and “Happy Days” child-actor has-beens, the country music asshole who sings the pro-lynching song, some people Trump fired on “The Apprentice” and possibly Kanye.
They’ll offer lots of NFTs and MyPillows as pledge gifts and never deliver.
trollhattan
@mrmoshpotato: Is that what Melon’s up to with his lasery X sign?
https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/07/31/twitter-x-sign-san-francisco-elon-musk-cnntm-vpx.cnn
raven
And if California slides into the ocean
Like the mystics and statistics say it willI
I predict this motel will be standing
until I pay my bill
mrmoshpotato
@Miss Bianca:
Nominated.
MattF
@Betty Cracker: Or, some WWE-type event. A weigh-in or a stare-down. Throw around some folding chairs near ringside.
patrick II
@Betty Cracker:
I thought Trump was a billionaire.
Maybe he could borrow some of that Saudi money from his son-in-law.
MazeDancer
@Betty Cracker:
Agree with you about Trump Telethon.
But OANN went belly up. Verizon dumped them. They packed up their offices.
Can link you a pic when it’s not Twitter Boycott Day.
JaySinWA
@patrick II: T didn’t become a [fake] billionaire by spending his own money.
Joy in FL
@Matt McIrvin: I don’t know how much difference a boycott will make, but it’s the thought that counts for me.
JPL
I guess Anna bower is the person to follow
I’m not on Twitter
grand imps are up so my time is limited
JaySinWA
@MazeDancer: OANN still has a web presence, so not completely dead yet. But apparently the Verizon decision was effective today. So no major cable outlets as of the first of August.
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: I’ll have what you’re having!
I really want the corrupt conspirators in congress to get rolled up with trump.
Jeffro
fell out of my chair, thanks  =)
JWR
@JPL:
We shall see. Or not. But this says the same thing.
narya
Also: Leinenkugel’s workers are on strike.
Steve in the ATL
@MazeDancer: @Betty Cracker: when I sat down to eat breakfast in the hotel lounge this morning, I was pleased to see that the tv was not tuned to Fox News.  Alas, my pleasure was short lived.  It was a program called the National Desk which was all stories about alleged Biden failures and alleged Biden corruptionâI believe we call these âprojectionââand the de rigeur smearing of Hunter Biden.  Sounded like it was geared toward the many, many people who Fox News to be a hippie left wing radical site.
Turns out itâs the Sinclair broadcasting ânewsâ channel.
Looking forward to getting a survey from Hilton about my stayâŠ.
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: if there is an effective GOP primary attack to be made against trump, it is “he’s not using your hard-earned dough to beat Biden…this ‘billionaire’ is using your donations to pay his lawyers (and there’s no end in sight of that). Don’t be a sucker”
laura
@rikyrah: Same here. I want a sprawling Silverado Savings style indictment with arrest warrants and indictments from DC to state after state dropped like so many pianos on the heads of every party to the conspiracies and the large adult children and in-laws. I want perp walks and booking photos. I want pants shitting from the Boardrooms and think tanks. I want shock and surprise from the punditocracy, and pissy pettiness from the stenographers. I want a Justice Kaboom. I want a pony and I want to buy some fresh highlighter pens for when I hate read and diagram the indictment. And I want it now, like a common Veruca Salt.
Ken
I feel such pity for them. Can you imagine doing that for hours, your hand cramping, and they’re still bringing out papers?
Jeffro
PS the NYT’s headline article at the moment is, “A Run of Strong Data Buoys Biden on the Economy: Voters continue to rate President Biden poorly on the economy but there are signs that the national mood is beginning to improve”
I never thought I’d see the day…
smith
Well, it’s not the indictment we’re hoping for, but two Republicans in MI have been charged with tampering with voting machines.
NotMax
My sole prediction is that I shan’t be making any predictions.
mrmoshpotato
@trollhattan: Turning Twitter into a vape shop? Possibly.
tobie
@Betty Cracker: Donny going belly-up and bankrupt again. Sorry….there’s no real point to this response. It just felt good to heap scorn on him. Back to being serious…
rikyrah
THIS ENTIRE THREAD…
clap clap clap..bringing receipts.
Ida Bae Wells (@nhannahjones) tweeted at 5:14 PM on Mon, Jul 31, 2023: There’s been much gaslighting & moderate justifying of the new Florida social studies standards, people stating the “clarifications” were designed to show Black resilience, or were just “facts.” So, I thought I’d compare the African-American history standards to the Holocaust’s. (https://twitter.com/nhannahjones/status/1686138238971351040?t=rSJ90wuu8pGgNbmiTCp2Dg&s=03)
I would hope that a FrontPager would take a closer look and highlight this in a post.
NotMax
Twitter boycott ought to be dubbed “Axe The X.”
Omnes Omnibus
@Joy in FL:Â â
The point is that users provide the content, and, if the sane ones stop, it will only be racists and nazis. Then who will want to buy ads?
MazeDancer
@JaySinWA: Maybe they need less stuff/space just for the web. Nice pics of empty rooms and packed boxes on Twitter in the past few days.
But google search showed they are limping along online. Probably being hidden will amp up their hate.
Omnes Omnibus
@laura:Â â
Remember what happened to Veruca.
UncleEbeneezer
Can I make predictions repeatedly for two and half years and then demand we change the subject when we are right on the verge of having them proven definitively wrong? Â Asking for a
friendbunch of very online, Garland-haters.tobie
I just saw this on Mastodon:
trollhattan
Since we’re discussing Trump and his enablers, Sam Alito, everybody. He is not happy with You People thinking anybody has control over SCOTUS.
Ruckus
@MazeDancer:
Since elon bought twit I have practiced staying off of it as much as possible. I believe that last week I spent less than 5 minutes on it and only then because someone here mentioned a twit to read.
I’m a better person for it.
Ken
She ended up owning the chocolate factory after her father sued Wonka for child endangerment?
Roger Moore
@Betty Cracker:
This is one of those things that shouldn’t be surprising but somehow is anyway. I’ve gotten so used to thinking of Trump’s supporters as mindlessly supporting him no matter what he does that it comes as a mild surprise when their support slackens. I guess they’re either running low in disposable cash or just are just tired of the endless fundraising demands. I can totally sympathize with the latter; it doesn’t take much for me to get frustrated with begging emails.
HumboldtBlue
@Betty Cracker:
No Trump bucks?
trollhattan
@Ruckus: Still follow key Twit accounts for soccer and Ukraine, but not as a registered user. Browser function of pages seems to be working again but Android Twitter throws up posts that aren’t date-sorted, so I’ll see 2021 posts long before any 2023 posts.
That last engineer, I hope he/she is getting paid up front.
Alison Rose
@narya: To you as well. I’m hoping Jerry and my Dad have stumbled across each other in Olam Ha-Ba and are playing their jug band songs together again <3
Dad mostly did very random percussion-type instruments, but he did get to sing lead on one track!
mrmoshpotato
@MattF:
STOP THE CHAIRS!
Steve in the ATL
@Omnes Omnibus: a moderately successful alt-rock career?
NotMax
@JaySinWA
And then there’s RSBN, still single-mindedly spitting shameless sh*t.
Roger Moore
@Jeffro:
Yeah, the economy is so good the media is running out of doom and gloom stories to keep people depressed about it.
Bill Arnold
@Steve in the ATL:
Worth carrying one of these “TV-B-Gone Universal TV Power Remote Control Keychain”.
Omnes Omnibus
@Ken: They signed a waiver.
UncleEbeneezer
@rikyrah: I remember calling out someone at LG&M a couple years ago (Murc, I think) who was insisting that Racism is only the inter-personal type and that it is wrong to call Redlining, Voter Suppression etc., (in other words, policies) “Racism” because that’s not how most people think of when they think of what the word means. Â I told him that he was echoing the exact same argument that the GOP loves for trying to define Racism in a way that is so narrow that almost nothing actually qualifies. Â And here they are trying to codify precisely that obfuscation into educational standards.
narya
@Alison Rose: Oh, what fun! Thanks for that link!
UncleEbeneezer
Politico has a good primer on the list of all the scumbags who may be in the news once 1/6 indictments drop.
Elizabelle
@tobie: Â Lots and lots of arrests. Â Perp walks! Â May Roger Stone be among them.
twbrandt
@Redshift: hey, I arrived in Iceland yesterday!
Roger Moore
@UncleEbeneezer:
No, but you are allowed to move the goal posts by claiming whatever is making your prediction wrong is too little, too late.
mrmoshpotato
@JaySinWA:
Just hearing about this. Awesome. Don’t let the door hit ya…
tobie
@Elizabelle: Stone, Flynn, Eastman, Chesebro, Jr, and for good measure I will throw in a few women’s names now: Hope Hicks, the execrable Kellyanne Conway, and the still-lying Kayleigh McEnany. I’ve given up hope that Jared and Ivanka will every be indicted for defrauding the US.
Omnes Omnibus
@Steve in the ATL:Â â
There is a Dutch techno and house artist called Augustus Gloop,
RaflW
“Trump Meddler in Michigan, Matthew DePerno, Is Charged in Election Breach
A key figure in a multistate effort to overturn the 2020 election, Mr. DePerno lost his race for Michigan attorney general in 2022. He later finished second to lead the stateâs Republican Party.”
Arraigned on four criminal charges. Shoes keep dropping.
Bill Arnold
@trollhattan:
Power of the Purse.
Remove all the indoor plumbing at the SCOTUS building, and put an outhouse in the front of the building.
David đ âThe Establishmentâđ Koch
MisterForkbeard
@tobie: This strikes me as somewhat likely, in fact. It might be a couple of days before we can officially celebrate.
Elizabelle
@tobie:
I haven’t! Â Those two have not gone subterranean just to maintain Jared’s ghostly pallor.
I don’t know about Ivanka, but truly think Jared is in the sights. Â Maybe they are studying the foreign money trail and Covid relief companies very, very carefully. Â Lot of co-conspirators.
Elizabelle
@MisterForkbeard: Â Making the occasion all the more festive.
Allowing us to chill the bubbly; have it ready.
hueyplong
The waiting is easier on us than it is on the defendants. So enjoy each moment of anticipation.
rikyrah
@tobie:
Co-conspirator…
what a beautiful word :)
rikyrah
@twbrandt:
Are you all going to see the Northern Lights?
Bill Arnold
@Elizabelle:
Yes! My loathing for that man presents as low key; it is powerful.
Definitely a need for many many arrests.
tobie
@rikyrah: Sure is, especially in the plural. Co-conspirators.
Elizabelle
@rikyrah: Â I put up a good WaPost gift link on the earlier thread.
Story of the Miller family, who recently bought a plantation house (and remaining 10 acres) southwest of Roanoke, VA. Â For family reunions. Â And learned that their family was not only from the area; their ancestors had been enslaved. Â On that very property. Â Owned by two bachelor brothers.
Discussion of how the older generations did not want to pass along the trauma of their experience to the younger, and how these stories died out.
WaPost, 2022, gift link:
An old Virginia plantation, a new owner and a family legacy unveiled
MazeDancer
@Ruckus: Good to hear. No doubt my boycott today is good for me.
My indictment watch is listening to MSNBC now.
JWR
Since Twitter is now đ, why are they still called tweets?
hueyplong
Enjoying contemplation of the reaction at Trump’s house if Meadows or some other high profile co-conspirator is not indicted.
Trivia Man
@narya: 28 years on, still a big part of my life
for a curated song list, Spotify has several â30 days of Deadâ playlists.
As we all know, itâs Jehovaâs favorite choir.
Subsole
@narya:
Yeah.
Leonard and Harlan and the rest of their pimps already pay their way. They don’t need my dollars.
tobie
This is off topic: I was driving on I-95 North of DC and a Virginia car passed me by with a huge blue and yellow strip running from front to back (Ukraine’s colors) and a license plate reading HIMARS. I couldn’t decide if this was a defense contractor who’s profited from the war or a Ukrainian patriot.
Subsole
@schrodingers_cat:
I heard India is actually not exporting rice this year.
What, and I can not stress this enough, is going on over there?
Subsole
@lowtechcyclist:
That too. Lenny Leo bought it, he can fucking maintain it.
Elizabelle
And don’t evade The Cheese Tax. (video)
This was a clue on a New Yorker crossword puzzle this week. Â Had to go looking.
Ruckus
@NotMax:
It’s actually not just the x.
I find that my world is, now that I’m for all intents twit/x free, much more enjoyable.
Kay
This is the one I thought they would never charge. I’m thrilled to be wrong.
Roger Moore
@JWR:
The same reason plenty of people still call it Twitter: inertia.
Bill Arnold
@JWR:
It’s amazing. The newly hired Twitter X “CEO” surely cannot have approved of the name change. I mean, “Tweet’ was (still is) literally in the dictionary:
tweet / noun
1 : a chirping note
2 : a post made on the Twitter online message service
And also as a verb.
Musk threw that away.
VFX Lurker
@Subsole:
cain posted about this a few days ago:
Betty Cracker
Did y’all know that yesterday, DeSantis sent a snotty letter to VP Harris accusing her of “disparaging the state” and inviting her to come back to FL and participate in a roundtable discussion of the state’s whitewashed black history education standards?
Well, Harris did come back to FL today, but not to talk to DeMeatball’s clown-ass minions but rather to address an AME convention in Orlando. And during that speech, she told DeSantis to go pound sand.
Good for her! I’ve got no time to post about it, and maybe this link won’t work unless you’re an Orlando Sentinel subscriber, but that’s where I read it.
narya
@Trivia Man: Yeah, I’m on the email list, too–but I had deleted Spotify from my phone. Might have to reconsider for a few days . . . Also trying to figure out how to upload shows to Apple Music; I don’t have the CDs but my friend might, and that might be the thing to try. The shows are good for road trips, especially (my friend does all the driving), though I draw the line at Pigpen’s caterwauling, and, sometimes, drums/space.
Roger Moore
@Bill Arnold:
The new CEO is there to manage day-to-day operations and take the blame for the inevitable, catastrophic failures of Musk’s ideas. Musk is 100% still calling the shots.
smith
From the Guardian’s live blog:
MazeDancer
@JWR:
What are tweets called? Tweets.
No one outside the cult cares what Elmo wants. To the sane folks, it’s always going to be  Twitter and Tweets.
Kinda like Sixth Avenue. The only place one hears “Avenue of the Americas” is if one is having to write down a mailing address of a business located on 6th.
Not actually sure want Musk wants. Possibly Xeets.
Brachiator
@rikyrah:
There was one item in the Ida Bae thread that caught my attention.
It’s really hard to see any benefit of slavery here.
rikyrah
@Subsole:
I watch someone on TikTok.
As she explained it..
India has had more than a few weather events that have affected the rice crop.
They are keeping it in order to make sure that they can feed their people.
Ruckus
@trollhattan:
I’m not sure, mainly because I haven’t heard of a major fire in SF, but it seems like maybe elon is the last vestige of engineer left. Which does not bode well for anything, because I’m pretty sure that he couldn’t find his way out of a wet paper bag. I have heard someone who recently attended an electric car discussion about the future and heard him speak and was rather surprised that he actually made sense.
Subsole
@OverTwistWillie:
Nah. It’s Twitter. Homie doesn’t have any problem deadnaming everyone else. Fuckim.
rikyrah
@Kay:
which charge is that?
M31
oh oh oh do I have enough cake ingredients?
tick tock motherfuckers, enjoy your time in the slammer, all of you
rikyrah
@JWR:
As a Chicagoan…..
The same reason why it’s the Sears Tower…
And Comiskey Park…
LOL
cain
@MazeDancer: Come on down to Mastodon (or whatever) and enjoy the reposting there. :) Some like popehat will post on Mastodon straight up.
Subsole
@mrmoshpotato:
Second.
rikyrah
@Betty Cracker:
Victor Shi (@Victorshi2020) tweeted at 1:34 PM on Tue, Aug 01, 2023:
Holy shit. VP Kamala Harris just responded directly to Ron DeSantis in Florida now: “I will tell you there is no roundtable, no lecture, no invitation we will accept to debate an undeniable fact: there were no redeeming qualities of slavery.” THIS is how you handle a racist.
(https://twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1686445208656060416?t=HeCZ1RuRD7V7tyP8uKElcQ&s=03)
Jay
@Betty Cracker:
Wonkette has it up top today.
Elizabelle
@smith: Â Hmmmm. Â Trump has jumped the gun before, no? Â And maybe it’s a warning to his co-conspirators. Â Leave the house. Â Make yourselves hard to find. Â Now.
To see.
Jeffro
@Ruckus:
@trollhattan:
I deleted it off of my phone a few days ago and am noticeably happier, more focused, etc.
It’s a bit of a shame b/c the EduTwitter community was well established and I loved seeing what other folks were doing, but we’ll find other ways to connect!
Subsole
@VFX Lurker:
Thank you!
smith
@Elizabelle: Well, if it’s 5:00 Eastern today, we’ll know in a few minutes.
cain
@JaySinWA: well that’s perfect, there is only what? Fox News? Hopefully cable will end whatever gimmick they have with Fox people.
I suppose it’s there because a whole lot of folks are making money from MAGA Fox watchers – can’t imagine they aren’t poor from all the money they are giving out.
Subsole
@rikyrah:
Thank you, as well!
Miss Bianca
@laura: Excellent rant. I r in awe.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
Spoken like someone who doesn’t think he’d be a plantation owner. The kind of people who assume they’d own dozens of slaves naturally disagree.
JWR
@Betty Cracker:
I just read this about Harris’s FL vacay over at Politico:
He’s just one step away from taking TFG’s full martyr position. As for the last two sentences, who knows WTF he’s talking about?
Jeffro
@tobie: OMG awesome, I can wait a few days for that!
“trumpmageddon”?
“J6mas”?
Elizabelle
@smith: Â Has Redshift’s flight departed? Â (He says he always misses these things.)
No bubbly chilled. Â Do have some hefeweizen. Â Will have to do.
Elizabelle
@Jeffro: Â Smithmas. Â On the first day of Smithmas …
I hope Jack Smith is just getting started. Â And Garland fits right in.
smith
The Guardian has now reported that court staff are going into the magistrate’s courtroom.
Roger Moore
@JWR:
I assume he’s implying that the history we have been teaching- the part that focuses on how terrible slavery was- is just a bunch of lies and false narratives. Instead, we need to correct the focus with something like Florida’s new curriculum that focuses on how great slavery was.
JPL
It’s doubtful that they will interupt PBS kids with breaking news
Jeffro
@Betty Cracker: given Ron’s nearly-complete implosion, we’ll probably never see a Harris/DeSantis debate, even in 2028.
But Lordy, she would flay him soooo badly…
Ruckus
@JWR:
Don’t try to make sense of any of it, you’ll just give your self a massive headache and dare I say, possibly a tumor….
Doug R
@Scout211: Seeing as good lawyers take copious notes and smart ones like Michael Cohen recorded EVERYTHING, is it really that great an idea to try to throw the lawyers under the bus?
Miss Bianca
@smith: c’mon, c’mon…
JWR
@MazeDancer:
I saw one of those Twitter screenshots, and the reply box says “Tweet your reply”, so it still looks official. That’s what I was asking about. But I’m sure a genius like Elno will figure it all out.
Steeplejack
@trollhattan:
Switch your URLs for regular follows to Nitter.net for proper date sorting. Might have to select “tweets and replies” rather than “tweets” alone.
Regnad Kcin
@bbleh: guilty guilty guilty
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1973/5/29
damn that was 50 years ago and I remember it all too well
Shalimar
@Ken: “Tends to follow the advice of the last person he heard” can also mean “stops calling people for advice once someone advises him to do what he was going to do anyway.”
smith
According to the Guardian:
2m ago22.08Â BST
Prosecutors have entered the Washington DC courthouse and a new âgrand jury returnsâ has been added to the docket, Politicoâs Kyle Cheney writes.
Baud
@smith:
Stalkers.
Ruckus
@Jeffro:
I was going to say, “You have it on your phone?”
And then it hit me, I’m retired! I don’t have to work/play on my phone all day. Sorry, but retirement is nice, I only wish I could have done it about 50 yr ago….
rikyrah
BWA HA AH AHA HA HA HA
Kay
@rikyrah:
I don’t know the charge but Ithought they would never bring charges related to J6 for Trump and/or the cronies. I think this is related to J6.
MazeDancer
MSNBC reports an indictment has been returned against an individual or individual. As yet unnamed.
Ken
@MazeDancer: Hunter Biden.
(Might as well get out there ahead of Fox.)
mrmoshpotato
@M31: Cherry. Turnovers.
Puff pastry and canned cherry pie filling. Fill them to almost bursting.
Take that store-bought turnovers!
smith
Now reporting an indictment has been returned, but sealed. Not sure I can stand the suspense.
Elizabelle
@MazeDancer: Â Where’s WaterGirl? Â Is she baking?
I hope we have a platoon of indictments. Â You get an indictment, and you get an indictment, and you get an indictment ….
MattF
Smith is about to make a statement, it says here. Watch CSPAN.
zhena gogolia
We have to go out to dinner. đ
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah:
Say ’em loud! Say ’em proud!
zhena gogolia
@MattF: Yeah, some cracker is talking about his medicine.
different-church-lady
Trump Indictment? Must be Tuesday.
topclimber
This was in response to JWR re: what to call tweets.
trollhattan
School spree-killing averted? Seems possible.
America.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@different-church-lady: and Belgium
Kay
This poor health care lady on CSPAN
She knows everyone wants her to be preempted
prostratedragon
rikyrah, mrmoshpotato: Amen!
Waiting music
topclimber
Deleted because link to another poster no works.
Manyakitty
@laura: OMG I need a cigarette đŹ
Jeffro
if this indictment turns out to be trump and dozens of his co-conspirators getting rolled up like the B-movie mobsters that they are, I will probably not sober up until Labor Day. Â I’m just sayin’…
PaulWartenberg
Indictments are in but no names given, and no full details. Jack Smith is holding a press conference later tonight. So far it’s looking like three names attached to the indictments.
HeleninEire
@Jeffro: Come sit by me.
PaulWartenberg
@Jeffro:
Anybody got a link to a YouTube clip that had trumpian figures getting arrested to a slow-motion montage from season one of Daredevil?
smith
TFG just released a statement, but it’s just the same old gobbledegook. I was hoping he’d blab about what’s in the indictment.
Sister Golden Bear
@JWR: Elon is going to be suddenly going to be pissed about  deadnaming.
JWR
Live from NBC
TFG INDICTED ON 4 COUNTS!
Ruckus
@Scout211:
He’s been doing this for his entire life. Fucking up and then trying to blame anyone/everyone else.
I hope that the shit hits the fan and he’s the only one standing in front of it.
Elizabelle
May I remind you that we have a full moon tonight? The sturgeon moon. And we have a blue moon on August 30.
And we have the time, and appetite, for indictment upon indictment.  I want the congressional enablers  to get their own indictments, too.  We can be patient.
MazeDancer
Trump haa been indicted. aom 4 counts.
Because I knew Twitter Boycott Day would produce Indictments, I was prepared.
See some folks folding on Blue Sky. Not me. Staying strong.
Will MSNBC tonight.
Jeffro
@JWR: that’s it, I am breaking out the crack pipe…
Tinare
Itâs all happening!
Ceci n est pas mon nym
@Jeffro:Â â
@HeleninEire:Â â
All indications are that Fani Willis is going with RICO and potentially dozens of names. I think that will be the indictment we’ve been waiting for. Even, may I dare hope, a few sitting members of Congress?
Baud
đđșđČ
Kay
More charges:
CaseyL
Hopefully, the Jack Smith statement will give a few more details.
Like, what are the counts? (I’m trying to remember if counts can contain multiple charges, or if it’s the other way around. Four doesn’t seem like enough, is what I’m saying.)
And, is anyone else indicted?\
ETA: 4 counts; there can be many charges. And 6 un-named co-conspirators also indicted.
bbleh
@JWR:Â @PaulWartenberg: @MazeDancer:Â Oh. My. God. It’s … CAKE!!!
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/35d57097-83e7-49f8-9592-6dd6f1f9ae5a
Dorothy A. Winsor
We’re meeting people to go out to dinner in 20 minutes! Oh well. I’ll catch up later.
smith
NBC has been showing the indictment itself. Not sure what “sealed” means in this case.
Jeffro
WHERE’S OUR APOLOGY, GOP ELECTED OFFICIALS/MURDOCH AND FOX NEWS???
scum-sucking enablers!!!
JWR
@Jeffro: I might just take a congratulatory puff myself! ;)
Jeffro
@Ceci n est pas mon nym: RICO? Â RICO?
BRING IT!!!1!!!
PaulWartenberg
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
please pick a designated driver for tonight.
Alison Rose
[moved to new thread]
PaulWartenberg
@smith:
it means they hired Seal to record a song about it.
Dorothy A. Winsor
@PaulWartenberg: Good point
MazeDancer
45 page indictment
6 co-conspirators
ETA: Clark,Powell, and Rudy
Tinare
6 codefendants â attorneys, justice department official, political consultant.
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro:
Please do not shittalk B-movies like that. đ
Mai Naem mobileI
Sounds like Rudy, Jeffrey Clarke and Eastman are the co conspirators. I was hoping for Stephen Miller. I tell you I never get what I want!
Jeffro
Note to all media outlets and talking heads, including the brain-dead crew at Fox: if you have any – any – House GOP members on your show tonight, or if you don’t have Adam Schiff or Liz Cheney on, you’re worse than worthless and need to just go jump in the nearest volcano.
Elizabelle
Smithmas. And Wine O’Clock. Â Tra la la.
Loved the NBC Special Report news, and then Lester himself. Â And all their DC press corpse types.
“Yes. Â These are very serious charges.”
Kristin Fucking Welker talking about him being 37 points ahead of Ron DeSantis. Â It’s all political with this bitch.
She is going to get me to turn NBC off. Â On my phone. Â And: Â gone. Â Enough, Kristin or Kristen or whatever. Â At least you’re not prattling on about how unpopular Joe Biden is. And I will never know if you do.
Roger Moore
@bbleh:
The cake is a lie!
Mai Naem mobileI
@Tinare: they’re saying they’re all lawyers except for the political consultant. I was hoping for Barr too but doesn’t sound like Barr’s one of them.
mrmoshpotato
@Elizabelle:
A bunch of Trump trash should be slapped with sturgeon.
MazeDancer
@Mai Naem mobileI: Clark, Powell, Eastman, and Rudy
mrmoshpotato
@Jeffro: NOMINATED!
Kay
Conspiracy against rights
It’s a perfect charge for them
Trivia Man
@narya: the Relisten app has all of the shows for free, many versions of each. Also many other jam bands available there.
laura
and BOOM goes the dynamite!
Wapiti
@narya: Have it tied to getting their disclosures done on time, complete and accurate. No or bad disclosure: lose your clerks.