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Sunday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  July 30, 20232:04 pm| 126 Comments

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Someone mentioned yesterday that they had just received their artwork from Larime and that it had really captured the souls of the dog and kitty who are pictured.

I have already forgotten who it was, so please out yourself in the comments!  (Pika!)

I put the images at the end of pretty much dead thread, so they didn’t get much notice.  So here they are.

Talk about whatever you want!

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  1. 1.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 2:15 pm

    Those paintings are amazing!! What a stunning talent.

    On the not-stunning, not-talented, and hilarious front:

    The political action committee that former President Donald J. Trump is using to pay his legal bills faced such staggering costs this year that it requested a refund on a $60 million contribution it made to another group supporting the Republican front-runner, according to two people familiar with the matter.

    The decision signals a potential money crisis for Mr. Trump, who has so far refused to pay his own voluminous bills directly and has also avoided creating a legal-defense fund for himself and people who have become entangled in the various investigations related to him.

    It comes as Mr. Trump runs a campaign while under indictment in two jurisdictions and, soon, potentially a third, while also paying the legal fees of a number of witnesses who are close to him or who work for him.

    It is unclear how much money was refunded.

    But the refund was sought as the political action committee, Save America, spent more than $40 million in legal fees incurred by Mr. Trump and witnesses in various legal cases related to him this year alone, according to another person familiar with the matter.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 2:21 pm

    @Alison Rose

    “And the attorneys don’t even give Green Stamps!”
    //

  3. 3.

    Ohio Mom

    July 30, 2023 at 2:25 pm

    This morning we took a very large bag of books and records to the Friends of the Library’s used book warehouse. Then we bought home a half shopping bag of newly purchased used books and records. This downsizing in preparation for eventually moving is not going as smoothly as I had hoped.

  4. 4.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 2:28 pm

    I had commented on a FB post from The Kyiv Independent, and when someone liked my comment, I saw in the notification that he was wearing a red baseball cap with white writing, and I was like WTF? But I clicked through and looked closer and the hat says “Made you look, Black lives matter” which is awesome. Although from a distance people are gonna think something different.

  5. 5.

    WereBear

    July 30, 2023 at 2:32 pm

    @Ohio Mom: It is Zeno’s Paradox. No matter how much he downsizes, there is still half the stuff we must get rid of :)

  6. 6.

    JoyceH

    July 30, 2023 at 2:33 pm

    @Alison Rose: Just as an aside, WHY are baseball caps still a thing? They’ve been around forever and they don’t look flattering on anyone. I guess they’re cheap and an easy giveaway to promote your product, but come on folks. How about hats with brims all the way around?

  7. 7.

    FelonyGovt

    July 30, 2023 at 2:35 pm

    Thought  of Betty C when I read this: Florida Universities Hit by Brain Drain as Academics Flee

    ETA here’s a link that doesn’t come from Apple News

  8. 8.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 2:46 pm

    @JoyceH: They look okay on actual baseball players and toddlers. Otherwise, yeah, it’s a risk.

    Vox had a piece a few days ago about how Oppenheimer is having an impact on fashion and maybe we’ll get a resurgence of that look. Listen, if that movie gets dudes to start wearing three-piece suits and pork pie hats again, I say give it all the Oscars.

  9. 9.

    JoyceH

    July 30, 2023 at 2:49 pm

    @Alison Rose: ​
     

    I got a sort of fishing hat to wear when walking, keeps the sun out of my eyes and the ticks off my head. I call it my adventurer’s hat – when I walk, my shadow looks like a tubby little Indiana Jones.

  10. 10.

    Pika

    July 30, 2023 at 2:52 pm

    Larime did those pieces for me!!! Having met both animals, I can affirm the recipients’ sense that Larime “got” their souls!

  11. 11.

    gwangung

    July 30, 2023 at 2:53 pm

    Huh. Maybe baseball caps are a guy thing?

    I particularly like them in fall and winter when it’s raining and I’m out walking/jogging; keeps the rain out of my eyes.

  12. 12.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 2:56 pm

    Baseball caps are now the country music hat of choice.

  13. 13.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    @Alison Rose: @JoyceH:
    Both of youse are out of your minds. Baseball caps are a practical and useful piece of headwear and when done in the style of an actual baseball cap, say, the Phillies, look damn good as well.

    Listen, if that movie gets dudes to start wearing three-piece suits and pork pie hats again

    As the eternally entertaining Sweet Brown told us — Ain’t nobody got time for that.​

    Plus, what other hats do we refer to as caps?

    Swimming cap? Goofy as hell.

    Shower cap? Even sillier.

    Fat cap? Usually gets trimmed before smoking.

  14. 14.

    Delk

    July 30, 2023 at 3:00 pm

    This Friday I have my yearly ophthalmologist appointment. At last year’s appointment, as I was sitting in the waiting room, the Dobbs decision was released. Maybe this year something good will be announced.

  15. 15.

    cmorenc

    July 30, 2023 at 3:02 pm

    @JoyceH: You will need to pry my Carter’s Vintage Guitars (nashville Tn) and Alta Ski Area baseball-style caps from my cold, dead hands and head.  Wearing the Carter’s one right now out on the beach.

    The answer to your question is – cause we like it.

  16. 16.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 3:02 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: I guess I’m impacted by both the MAGA crowd and the certain type of backwards-baseball-hat wearing douchebags I’ve encountered many times in my life. Also, they look way better once broken in, when they’re brand new, they always look like you’re wearing someone else’s hat who has a very different shaped head than yours.

    And there is always time for fashion!! Three-piece suits with hats = hot.

  17. 17.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 3:03 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    Three-piece suits with hats = hot.

    Yes, literally. As the world warms there will be fewer people who want to wear them.

  18. 18.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 3:05 pm

    @Yarrow: LOL touché. At least wear them in winter!

  19. 19.

    Tony Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    Love those paintings.

    I tried to find myself a wide brimmed hat yesterday to protect my Irish-skinned head and neck from the powerful Sicilian sun, but no luck. It’s a bother because, while I know I look like a tiny-skulled humanoid potato in any headwear, at least with a wider brim I can pull the sides down and tie it under my chin should the occasion demand.

    The Boy, of course, looks fantastic in any hat. Natural fashion model, my lad is. Doesn’t get from me.

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    July 30, 2023 at 3:06 pm

    @Alison Rose: There was one scene in the film where Oppenheimer put on the hat and picked up his pipe, and I swear it was shot like something from one of Nolan’s Batman films, gearing up for battle in the Batcave, that sort of thing.

  21. 21.

    FelonyGovt

    July 30, 2023 at 3:08 pm

    @Tony Jay: Hope you’re having a wonderful vacation (or I should say, holiday).  Watch out for that sun!

  22. 22.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 3:10 pm

    @Alison Rose:  Depends where you live. In a lot of the world, even a lot of the US, it’s really too hot in winter most of the time for that.

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 3:11 pm

    @JoyceH

    And what’s with guys wearing hats (baseball or otherwise) or caps (knit or otherwise) indoors?

    Fashion faux pas (not to mention discourteous) to da max.

    Exception granted, of course, for any undergoing medical treatment.

  24. 24.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 3:11 pm

    @Yarrow: Buzzkill :P

  25. 25.

    cain

    July 30, 2023 at 3:12 pm

    Not sure if y’all are aware – but India has limited exports of non-basmati rice because of the torrential monsoon season.

    Rice especially sona masoori is super important to us in south India. There is panick buying going on because nobody is sure how long this ban is going to last. I’ll say that if hte future is that these bans become common place – the pressure is going to be on especially by Indians and asians to put pressure on working on the climate problem.

    As stated, climate change is going to have a big impact on our food supply, and that means our culture as well.. Shit like a Georgia peach festival is goign to go down in flames because there wont be any peaches.

    Climate change should be the biggest issue for conservatism – but these folks are just doing late stage capitalism.

    By the time they get it, they either won’t give a shit because they are going home to Jesus, want to accelerate it because they think Jesus is coming or be happy because minorities are gonna get it in the shorts.

  26. 26.

    GBinChicago

    July 30, 2023 at 3:12 pm

    Seeing this fantastic artwork from Larime, I realize I must have missed the initial post about helping out by commissioning a pet portrait. Is he still accepting commissions?

  27. 27.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 3:14 pm

    @NotMax:

    And what’s with guys wearing hats (baseball or otherwise) or caps (knit or otherwise) indoors?

    Grandma, is that you?

  28. 28.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 3:17 pm

    @HumboldtBlue

    What? What? Speak up, whippersnapper.
    :)

  29. 29.

    wonkie

    July 30, 2023 at 3:17 pm

    Lovely paintings.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    @NotMax: Tony Soprano agrees with you.

  31. 31.

    Sure Lurkalot

    July 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    But I clicked through and looked closer and the hat says “Made you look, Black lives matter” which is awesome.

    A dear friend, sadly now deceased, had custom hats made in 2015/2016…red with white letters “Make America Grateful Dead Again”.

  32. 32.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 3:19 pm

    Recuperating today, after being outside nearly all day yesterday.

    Seeing the artwork reminded me of a stuffed toy company that specialized in making reproductions of pets as memorials.  We wanted one for our kitty Charybdis. Unfortunately, the proprietor kept making excuses as to why they were running so far behind and I had to dispute the deposit with my credit card company to get my money back.

  33. 33.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    @JoyceH:

    There are baseball caps, and then there are “trucker caps”.

    A good baseball cap is cotton, has a formable bill, some times a duckbill, ( extra long bill).

    I hate trucker caps, I wear a proper baseball cap 300 days out of the year, but in winter, I wear a Western Felt Fedora. It’s warmer and sheds snow and light rain better. The baseball cap shields my eyes from the sun, wind from my face, rain from my face, and allows me to pull the hood of my GorTex coat overtop for even better weather protection.

    In summer, it protects against sunburn, and being a fairly heavy cotton, and all the blood vessels around the brain, can be wetted and will provide evaporative cooling for about two hors, longer if cold water is used, even longer if wetted and thrown into the freezer for an hour.

    For women or men with long hair, the adjustment strap and the real hole formed by the strap can be used to secure a pony tail.

    Yes, I am top bald, and of the generations before sunscreen, and so my top bald area, has several recurring skin cancers that started back in the day, when I did have a lush head of hair, but that was no protection from sunburn.

    I also have a Tilly hat, (an uprated version of the Military “Slouch” hat, but I only wear that when lake fishing from a boat.

  34. 34.

    HinTN

    July 30, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    @NotMax: Hats indoors is surely a faux pas. Caps, not so much, although they come off when at table.

  35. 35.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 3:21 pm

    @GBinChicago:  Yes. John retweeted Larime just the other day saying he was working on one more and then his slate was open.

    nitter.net/XLarimeX/status/1683901691467542528#m

    Maybe get one of the frontpagers to contact Cole to get his info. It’s also probably in an old post if you want to search for it.

  36. 36.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 3:21 pm

    Speaking of dogs, here is one trying to get the ball from the pool.

  37. 37.

    Pika

    July 30, 2023 at 3:22 pm

    @GBinChicago:  yes! Larime is accepting commissions!

  38. 38.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 3:22 pm

    @Jay:  Love my Tilley hats. They’re crushable and I travel with them.

  39. 39.

    Professor Bigfoot

    July 30, 2023 at 3:22 pm

    I wear one when I’m driving the roadster I’m restoring.

    I have a killer “Porsche Motorsport” red hat that only saw the light of day once.😉

  40. 40.

    Sure Lurkalot

    July 30, 2023 at 3:23 pm

    @Pika: Thanks for sharing Larime’s beautiful artwork. Your pets are a handsome pair!

  41. 41.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:29 pm

    @NotMax:

    At my last two places of employment, I wore a branded baseball cap, to signify that I was an employee. The first place required at the time, a branded orange apron for all employee’s, but I got to opt out, because I could not leave my area to get parts, or anything else, with out being accosted in the isles by customers for hours. At the other place, they had branded mechanic’s coats, which were a PITA to try to actually work in, so I wore a branded baseball cap.

  42. 42.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 3:30 pm

    @Professor Bigfoot: What roadster? I took my 66 chevy truck in this week to have a hydraulic clutch installed. The heavy duty clutch is just too hard to work.

  43. 43.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 3:31 pm

    @JoyceH: I wear a baseball hat all the time. I have a bunch of UGA National Championship hats and a greta collection of fishing hats!

     

    eta

     

    Like this one??

  44. 44.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 3:33 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: I approve, obviously :)

  45. 45.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 30, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    @JoyceH:
    @Alison Rose:

    I have been wearing hats and bandannas of one kind or another all my life. Different strokes and all that but also the old baseball hat is a hell of a lot cheaper than any fedora. In fact, most of my billed caps were free, given to me for spending a ton of money at a lumberyard or autoparts store. We aren’t wearing them to be stylish, we’re wearing them to keep the sun out of our eyes and off our balding heads.

  46. 46.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    If you eat popcorn, here’s a short clip for you.

  47. 47.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 3:34 pm

    @Jay:

    For years, I wore a ball cap.  One day, though, I had an epiphany:  Ball caps do absolutely nothing to keep your ears or the back of your neck from getting fried.

    Today, when doing outside activities, I wear what I guess they call a “bucket hat” with the neck flap (I call it a “floppy hat” but, according to teh google, that is an entirely different kind of hat).  I wear a ball cap only when I need to make a quick trip to the store and my hair is a rat’s nest.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I may disdain his life choices but I appreciate Soprano’s tenor in the clip.

  49. 49.

    Pika

    July 30, 2023 at 3:35 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: they are friends’ pets but I agree that they are 🏆🏆

  50. 50.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 3:36 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: My loudmouth tenant who moved a couple of years ago said “dude, no one gives a fuck what an old man like you looks like”!

  51. 51.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 3:39 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Boonie hat, I wear my 50+ year old one when I fish!

  52. 52.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 30, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    @NotMax: ​ Who da fuq cares? It’s better than having it stolen.

  53. 53.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    @Jay

    That’s not a fashion choice or statement, that’s a uniform. Equine of an alternate hue.
    ;)

  54. 54.

    Tony Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    @FelonyGovt:

    Cheers. It’s going great, apart from the atrocity of a self-inflicted hangover (that was a LOT of cheap white wine) but I’ve learnt my lesson and will be a good boy from now on.

    Probably. Definitely. Absolutely.

  55. 55.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 30, 2023 at 3:44 pm

    @raven: ​“dude, no one gives a fuck what an old man like you looks like”!

    Good thing because I stopped caring what I looked like about 15 years ago.

  56. 56.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 3:46 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: ​ 

    Guess I should include the link.

  57. 57.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 30, 2023 at 3:46 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: ​Ball caps do absolutely nothing to keep your ears or the back of your neck from getting fried.

    But how do you can’t keep your neck red then?

  58. 58.

    jonas

    July 30, 2023 at 3:51 pm

    @HinTN: Caps, not so much, although they come off when at table.

    Reminds me of the epic scene from The Sopranos where Tony is eating at a nice restaurant and he sees this young man at a table across from him eating with his hat on and confronts him over it only the way a mob boss and a stickler for etiquette can…

  59. 59.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:53 pm

    @Nukular Biskits:

    I use sunscreen for the neck and ears, also the bald part of my head under the baseball cap.

    I used to have a baseball cap that had a skirt that covered the back and sides of the neck and the ears, but it was annoying if there was even a little breeze.

    There are some “specialty” baseball caps out there from specialty shops, such as extra UV protection for Flats Fishermen, and Mark’s Work Warehouse has tick, flea, blackfly, horsefly and mosquito repellent baseball caps and breathable long sleeve shirts. No pants yet.

  60. 60.

    Butch

    July 30, 2023 at 3:54 pm

    On the subject of the artwork, I just got a tattoo of my two pups.  The artist, Eddie (a woman, pronounced with a long E to begin), did a fantastic job of catching their gentle spirits.

  61. 61.

    OzarkHillbilly

    July 30, 2023 at 3:54 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: ​ edit fail, 2nd or 3rd time the past few days where I open the edit window, make the correction, post it and…. nothing.

    “But how do you keep your neck red then?”

  62. 62.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 3:56 pm

    @Jay

    “Sir, while they are surprisingly becoming on you, I don’t think you understand the concept behind fishnet stockings.”
    :)

  63. 63.

    JPL

    July 30, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    FYI the Day after Trinity, the story of the atomic bomb is available to stream until the 1st

    It’s a documentary and since it was filmed in 1981, many of the original scientists are in it.

  64. 64.

    Chetan Murthy

    July 30, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    @NotMax: It’s ‘cos you’re wearing the wrong hats: youtube.com/watch?v=D3hD9ZbguIg

  65. 65.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 3:59 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Either dude is making up the call (for clickz) or that CSR was a dumbass. Shaking the kernels out is a bonus, but the openings are to act as vents so the bag doesn’t burst. Also, I’d bet if you try that, there’s still gonna be a lot of kernels, because the popped ones will block some of them from coming out.

    I know. I’m no fun. I’ve made peace with that.

  66. 66.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 3:59 pm

    @NotMax:

    According to the local Harley shop, I am wearing my assless chaps all wrong.

  67. 67.

    Chetan Murthy

    July 30, 2023 at 3:59 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: when I was in my late 20s and traveled a lot, I used to wear a Panama hat.

  68. 68.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    July 30, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    @JoyceH: I’ll tell you my theory why…car seat head rests. When they were introduced is when hats with brims started going out of fashion and I’m convinced it was because, if you’re wearing a hat with a brim all around, you can’t rest your head on the head rest because the brim gets in the way. With a ball cap that’s not an issue.

  69. 69.

    Chief Oshkosh

    July 30, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    @JoyceH: It’s not that they look good on wearers, it’s that some wearers look worse without them on!

  70. 70.

    Larime

    July 30, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    I am indeed open for commissions! Pets in color are $100 per pet at 8×10, $150 at 11×14, and $200 at 16×20. I require full payment in advance, and get you the finished art in 1 to 2 weeks. I take PayPal, Zelle and CashApp.

  71. 71.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    @Chetan Murthy

    A hat trick.
    ;)

  72. 72.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 4:13 pm

    @raven:

    A 50-year old hat?

    I’m always losing mine and having to buy new ones.

  73. 73.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    They said, get back, honky catBetter get back to the woodsWell, I quit those days and my redneck waysAnd, ooh ooh ooh ooh, oh, change is gonna do me good

  74. 74.

    p.a.

    July 30, 2023 at 4:17 pm

    My gf grew up in Westchester cty NY and didn’t know the word ‘toque’ for the knit winter hat thingy that I think everyone in New England called… a toque.  I guess it’s… what? a ski hat, knit hat? elsewhere?  Guys wouldn’t wear the ones with the pom on top.  We actually were WWC when the WC was white.  And stupid.

  75. 75.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 4:18 pm

    FYI.

    Tree law.
    ;)

  76. 76.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    @Jay:

    I guess to each his/her own, then.

    Working for a Navy contractor, I collected (sidenote:  Is it a “collection” if you’re actually using them?) ball caps from just about every ship I’ve ever worked on or supported.  Those were usually of excellent quality and durability, not to mention having some pretty cool emblems/artwork.

    My switchover came when my kids were playing soccer and I was on the fields sometimes all day Saturdays for weeks on end.  Even with sunblock, I still would get burned when wearing a ball cap.  The trick, of course, is to reapply as needed, particularly when it’s hot and you’re sweating like a pig, but that’s a little tough to do when running around on the fields.

    I’ve also found it’s easy to stuff a floppy hat in my backpack for travel.

    I’ll never be making a fashion statement by wearing it.

  77. 77.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    @Chetan Murthy:

    Cool! Those look awesome to me.

  78. 78.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    @p.a.:

    toque’s in Canada, and guys don’t care about the pom-pom, one way or another.

    I wear a watch cap, as I can wear it under my baseball cap.

  79. 79.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    Double post

  80. 80.

    p.a.

    July 30, 2023 at 4:30 pm

    @Jay: Yes, N.E. has a large Quebeçois population, must have brought the word with them.

     

    I use a polarfleece headband under baseball hat as needed.

  81. 81.

    Geoduck

    July 30, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    @gwangung: My head’s too big to wear standard-sized baseball caps. And I prefer to shaded all the way around.

  82. 82.

    Trivia Man

    July 30, 2023 at 4:34 pm

    I may have outed a Juicer today, sorry. Yesterday someone mentioned they were driving to Madison with their partner who was giving a talk in church about the driftless Area here. That’s my congregation so I made sure to go in person and say hi.
    I told him i first heard about his talk on Balloon Juice and that seemed a total surprise to him, he couldn’t figure out who I was talking about.

    sorry to out you

  83. 83.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    @p.a.:

    I buy ex-British Army wool watch caps in XXL, boil them to turn them into Iron Wool, (which get’s them down to a large), then recoat them with lanolin, to restore the natural waterproofing.

    They cost 2/$5 when you can find them, are only available in Navy Blue, Forest Green and Black, and only last for 20-30 years.

  84. 84.

    eversor

    July 30, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    Boonie hat is the right advice though they get a bad rap as a lot of the people wearing them now are all wannabe operators with the 5.11 pants.

    I like ballcaps though.  They are stiff which helps.  And in times when sunburn isn’t the worry and you are wearing glasses rather than contects they are by far the best way to keep the sun out of your eyes.

    I guess you could get the best of both worlds with a cowboy hat  But those send their own crazy signals to people if you do not actually work with animals.  Speaking of which I’m going to an alpaca farm next weekend up in MD which is owned by a lovely old lady who’s a former Navy Captain.  This is her and her husbands (who last time I was up there I recall also did something government related before retiring) retirement.  They give tours and let you fuss with and feed the animals.  With of course the warning that they do kick and spit.  Also have tiny store for alpaca goods.  Which I knew about, but the socks and watch caps are amazing.

  85. 85.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 4:53 pm

    @JPL:

    Thanks a million for the link.

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    Kathleen

    July 30, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I need to decrappify and take some stuff there! Is that in Wyoming?

  87. 87.

    JPL

    July 30, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:  I found it fascinating.   I’m still not sure that I want to sit in a theater for 3 hours to watch the film though.

  88. 88.

    Citizen Alan

    July 30, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    @JoyceH:  My favorite baseball cap (and I would wear it if I could find it in real life) was one worn by Early Cuyler on Squidbillies. It says “Free Hat. Limit One.” and nothing else.

  89. 89.

    prostratedragon

    July 30, 2023 at 5:04 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:  Oh, is that ever a keeper!😆😆

  90. 90.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: I brought mine home so I keep up with it. I wash showing a friend a picture of me at a rock festival in 1969 I had a leather headband that I still have too!

  91. 91.

    zhena gogolia

    July 30, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: That’s great!

  92. 92.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    July 30, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: OMG now that I’m watching this idiot dog I am sure that is exactly how they think

  93. 93.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 30, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    He wore a pork pie with precision,
    A fedora with a flair;
    He wore a derby with distinction,
    And a slouch with savoir faire.

    A beanie or a Stetson
    Suited well this dapper chap —
    But you never could persuade him
    To put on a baseball cap!

  94. 94.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    @Jay: Oh, a “proper” hat.

  95. 95.

    frosty

    July 30, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    @Jay: ​
     I’ve been wearing hats outside ever since I lost most of my hair in my 30s. Recently upgraded to a bucket-style Hiker Hat from Conner Hats, from downunder. Rated UPF 50 by the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency. I figure that’s good enough!

  96. 96.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    @frosty:

    how many megaton’s is it rated for?

  97. 97.

    prostratedragon

    July 30, 2023 at 5:25 pm

    Ski, skull, or watch cap, or beanie. Some also call a ball cap a beanie if the bill is short. The wiki machine tells me “toque” for this kind of hat comes from Canada. I only know it as what a chef wears, if they still do.

  98. 98.

    frosty

    July 30, 2023 at 5:26 pm

    @Jay: Hmm, gotta figure the distance from ground zero … carry the one …

  99. 99.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    @raven:

    The Western Fedora has a broader brim, a peaked top, and is treated to be waterproof. I started wearing them when steelheading in the winter. Kept rain, slush and snow from going down my neck while still allowing peripheral vision, which a hood didn’t.

  100. 100.

    NotMax

    July 30, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    @prostratedragon

    So, borderwise, it is one toque over the line?
    ;)

  101. 101.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 5:31 pm

    @Jay: My boonie hat is fine for fishing plus it has a drawstring so it doesn’t blow off when the boat is hauling ass!

  102. 102.

    dexwood

    July 30, 2023 at 5:32 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Your epiphany is what my dermatologist hates about baseball caps. He says he sees way to much early skin cancer on the tops of men’s ears here in the high desert of New Mexico. 3 inch brims he tells his patients.

  103. 103.

    Dan B

    July 30, 2023 at 5:55 pm

    @FelonyGovt: There’s news that Florida’s gay resorts are begging people to come.  They may go under.

  104. 104.

    UncleEbeneezer

    July 30, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Yup.  Had to switch from baseball to floppy hats once I started coaching tennis lessons.  Even with sunscreen, reapplying regularly, I would still get roasted with a b-ball cap.  Even with a floppy hat I struggle at times like now when I’m on court 6+ hours a day.

  105. 105.

    Yarrow

    July 30, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    @dexwood:  I just saw a bit of golf on TV. Pretty much everyone out on the course was wearing baseball style caps. Ears and neck exposed to sun. I remember Greg Norman wore a brimmed hat. Seems like the kind of sport where that would be advisable.

  106. 106.

    Another Scott

    July 30, 2023 at 5:59 pm

    @Alison Rose: Maybe suit jackets and sport coats that actually fully cover the shirt below the button will come back in style.  I understand people who don’t wear such clothes often, but people who wear them all the time should have jackets that don’t look the wearer has put on 20 pounds since the purchase.  Such fashion is broken.

    [/old-man-yells – at-cloud]

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  107. 107.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    @UncleEbeneezer:

    Halo Headbands allow you to add a UV Cape under an existing hat, that drapes onto your shirt at the back and the shoulders on the side.

  108. 108.

    prostratedragon

    July 30, 2023 at 6:04 pm

    NotMax@100: Well, I wouldn’t say that … but your comment may be.😏

  109. 109.

    mvr

    July 30, 2023 at 6:08 pm

    @JoyceH: Agee with you about the baseball caps not being as good as a full brim but they’re pretty popular in the flyfishing circles I sometimes run in. I’m a fedora fan myself. They are the best when you are out walking or fishing or whatever and want to keep your ears from getting sunburned.

  110. 110.

    thruppence

    July 30, 2023 at 6:11 pm

    When I turned 66 last year, I bought a Route 66 ball cap to mark the journey, very useful for keeping the sun, snow, and rain out of my eyes. Raven’s ex tenant is right though, nobody cares what all of us non George Clooney old guys look like. My purple batik shirt gets compliments, but it probably looks better without me in it.

  111. 111.

    prostratedragon

    July 30, 2023 at 6:11 pm

    @106: Deadly when combined with a long tie.

  112. 112.

    cope

    July 30, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    @raven: That pictures would be totally over the top if you were holding a string of catfish.

  113. 113.

    dexwood

    July 30, 2023 at 6:15 pm

    @Yarrow: Maybe, pro golfers should be required to wear SPF hats & shirts for protection, like football helmets.

  114. 114.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 6:24 pm

    @mvr:

    Ball caps are handy when the rain or snow starts to come in sideways, and you need to pull your hood up. The hood on my GoreTex wading jacket has a small useless brim, a snap over chin flap, and 2 points of hood adjustment, so the only things out in the open are my eyes, eyebrows and the brim of my baseball cap.

    With a fully brimmed hat, under those conditions you either have another thing to carry, or can’t fully button up.

  115. 115.

    MagdaInBlack

    July 30, 2023 at 6:25 pm

    @raven: You look like most of the guys I knew back in my late teens early 20’s, including my husband 😊

  116. 116.

    Alison Rose

    July 30, 2023 at 6:25 pm

    @Dan B:

    There’s news that Florida’s gay resorts are begging people to come.

    Phrasing!

  117. 117.

    Nukular Biskits

    July 30, 2023 at 6:30 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    LOL!

  118. 118.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 6:32 pm

    @MagdaInBlack: We had fun!

  119. 119.

    raven

    July 30, 2023 at 6:35 pm

    @cope: That was my first trip on a boat. It was out of Port Aransas, Texas in about 1973. I remember that a kid was going around and dropping in between people and then moving and he caught a big ass grouper right next to me. I was not amused.

  120. 120.

    SteveinPHX

    July 30, 2023 at 6:42 pm

    @Alison Rose: ​
     I wear baseball hats generally. To & from work, shopping, etc.
    Out in the desert, up in the mountains or serious outdoor work, it’s a Tilley that I can tie down when windy and wash when needed. It’s “old Faithful.”

  121. 121.

    zhena gogolia

    July 30, 2023 at 6:43 pm

    I guess the guys are doubling down on their baseball caps! 😂

  122. 122.

    mvr

    July 30, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    @Jay: Makes sense in that scenario. But it isn’t one I’m in all that much. I do agree that I find hoods hard to keep out of my eyes when I have them on, so maybe keeping a ball cap in the pocket of my rain jacket would be a good idea.

  123. 123.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 6:56 pm

    @JPL:

    Oh, that’s why I’m gonna spend three hours at home watching it.

  124. 124.

    HumboldtBlue

    July 30, 2023 at 7:05 pm

    @prostratedragon: @zhena gogolia: @Chacal Charles Calthrop:

    His channel is filled with gems like that.

    Tony Baker is even funnier.

  125. 125.

    Jay

    July 30, 2023 at 7:06 pm

    @mvr:

    I flyfish year round. Late March, mid April, (Ice out) to mid-late November in the interior, on lakes, streams and rivers. In the Interior, on a nice July day, storms come up and rip through, you can get 120km/hr winds and 12mm of rain in an hour. You can actually see the storm move in as a curtain appears on the horizon and rips towards you.

    November to March I fish rivers and the ocean on the coast, aka the Wet Coast.

    I pretty much fish through all weather conditions except lightning storms.

  126. 126.

    Ohio Mom

    July 30, 2023 at 7:22 pm

    @Kathleen: Yep, at the very south end of Wyoming.

    It’s like a thrift store for books, you never know what you are going to find. Big children’s section, back in the day, I bought a lot of Ohio Son’s picture books there.

    They do have some limits on what they accept, IIRC, no textbooks for one example: cincylibraryfriends.org/

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