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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Liberal Redneck – I Swear This Is His Best One Yet

Liberal Redneck – I Swear This Is His Best One Yet

by WaterGirl|  September 17, 202311:00 am| 100 Comments

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I am a big fan of the Liberal Redneck, and I swear this is his best rant, ever.

It’s 2.5 minutes long, and then it goes to a commercial for VPN, so you can stop there.  But what a great 2.5 minutes this one is.  So many great lines.  Seriously, at least a dozen that I want to write down and remember.

Chief Oshkosh linked to this in an earlier thread.

Totally open thread.

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  1. 1.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 11:02 am

    Awesome!!

  2. 2.

    Alison Rose

    September 17, 2023 at 11:06 am

    “I don’t hate Lauren Boebert because she’s white trash. I hate her because she’s a piece of shit.”

    AMEN, BROTHER

    Also, the ad only goes to the 4 minute mark, and then he goes back to wondering if we have any genuine white trash in Congress, rather than people who pretend to be for the clout, LOL.

  3. 3.

    Jeffro

    September 17, 2023 at 11:08 am

    “…if she was out here readin’ stuff, knowin’ facts…shit like that…”

    Trae Crowder’s great!

    I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea but Brent Terhune is awesome too in his own way.  He had an AMAZING piece re: “Lauren Blowbert” a day or two ago himself

    “I WON THESE TICKETS OFF THE RADIO – I’M NOT GOIN’ NOWHERE!!

    “WHITE TRASH PEOPLE DON’T FINGER-SNAP, THEY…”  lolololol

  4. 4.

    moonbat

    September 17, 2023 at 11:10 am

    It’s worth sitting through the ad to hear him recruit Fetterman as a “Trash Champion”. lol

  5. 5.

    Memory Pallas

    September 17, 2023 at 11:14 am

    At the end, he seizes “it’s a damn shame” back from Rich Men North of Richmond.

  6. 6.

    frosty

    September 17, 2023 at 11:15 am

    Woohoo, Fetterman is honorary trash (gotta watch after the commercial) even though his daddy was rich and he has a Harvard degree. “He’s always wearing a hoodie and cargo shorts, the official early-winter Trash Uniform.”

    My Junior Senator!

    ETA Skip forward to 4:00.

  7. 7.

    gratuitous

    September 17, 2023 at 11:18 am

    Can Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez be a trash champion? Seems to have the requisite background and experiences and she drew the right conclusions from her struggles to become an elected official (basically, it shouldn’t be this hard to succeed or at least be secure in the Richest Nation in the World).

  8. 8.

    sdhays

    September 17, 2023 at 11:20 am

    So, has our Lauren finally crossed the threshold where her local Republican Party will support someone to replace her? I hope they continue to double down on her as the representative so voters have no choice but to vote Democrat to rid themselves of her.

  9. 9.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 11:24 am

    @Alison Rose:

    if we have any genuine white trash in Congress, rather than people who pretend to be for the clout, LOL.

    Imma go with NO.

    See: Sen. Foghorn Leghorn (Kennedy, R-LA), et al.

  10. 10.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 11:26 am

    @sdhays:

    So, has our Lauren finally crossed the threshold where her local Republican Party will support someone to replace her?

    NOPE. Once the knob has been turned to 11 and THEN BROKEN OFF, can’t go back.

  11. 11.

    kalakal

    September 17, 2023 at 11:27 am

    Oh that is brilliant!

  12. 12.

    gene108

    September 17, 2023 at 11:31 am

    I’m of the same opinion as Trae, and have been for awhile.

    Lauren Boebert could’ve been an inspiring story of someone who beat the odds (single teen mom, daughter of a single teen mom), who got elected to Congress in a competitive district. Unfortunately, she isn’t inspiring, because she’s an asshole.

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    September 17, 2023 at 11:34 am

    The Boebert incident is grotesque but it will be flushed down the memory hole in 6 3 1 month.

  14. 14.

    MattF

    September 17, 2023 at 11:40 am

    And, um, you can get end-to-end encrypted access to the internet tubes with the (free!) Tor browser. Which, in turn, gives you access to various (free!) sources of various stuff. Doesn’t generally work on mobile OSs, you have to use MacOS, Windows, or Linux.

  15. 15.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 17, 2023 at 11:40 am

    On Fetterman: “He looks like he wrassles at the county fair”

  16. 16.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 17, 2023 at 11:40 am

    @Memory Pallas:

    Billy Bragg’s excellent response, Rich Men Earning North of a Million, has been mentioned here before, well worth recalling/a listen

    https://youtu.be/qGNFR7pgxDY?si=xcPWfAvZG9XUPRkN

  17. 17.

    patrick II

    September 17, 2023 at 11:40 am

    Lauren is just dumb, not evil. The shame is dumb now usually a positive attribute in Republican primaries.

  18. 18.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 17, 2023 at 11:42 am

    @sdhays: Some “Christian” youth group announced, FRIDAY, that Vape Girl is going to be a featured speaker at their Hitlerjugend Rally in Texas.

  19. 19.

    NotMax

    September 17, 2023 at 11:45 am

    @MattF

    For mobile devices, Firefox Focus is the love child of Firefox and Tor.

  20. 20.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 17, 2023 at 11:46 am

    @Ben Cisco:

    NOPE. Once the knob has been turned to 11 and THEN BROKEN OFF, can’t go back.

    Yup!

  21. 21.

    twbrandt

    September 17, 2023 at 11:54 am

    @patrick II: I think she’s both, for the reasons Trae lists.

  22. 22.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 17, 2023 at 11:56 am

    @Alison Rose:

    Like that one, and also others mentioned, and also

    “Boebert’s dedicated her life to being wrong out loud, every time she talks she’s like the chatgpt of harmful ignorance”

    and:

    “I cannot stand a ladder-puller”

  23. 23.

    Miss Bianca

    September 17, 2023 at 11:58 am

    @sdhays:

    So, has our Lauren finally crossed the threshold where her local Republican Party will support someone to replace her? I hope they continue to double down on her as the representative so voters have no choice but to vote Democrat to rid themselves of her.

    She has at least two – possibly three – declared GOP primary candidates to contend with already. So it’s already starting. As a former constituent (we got redistricted, thank God), I just hope what you’re hoping.

  24. 24.

    Shalimar

    September 17, 2023 at 12:05 pm

    @NotMax: The “grab someone else’s dick and drag them out to vote for Boebert” parody ads beg to differ.

  25. 25.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 12:05 pm

    @sdhays: ​

    I hope they are dumb enough not to. That gal is a fighter and she’ll fight dirty against her own party. She might be scared now – but I’m sure there is a trove of foreign money ready for her to spend.

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    September 17, 2023 at 12:06 pm

    Fond as well of “Born in Florida, the Fertile Crescent of Crazy Crackers.”

  27. 27.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    @Ben Cisco: If he had any desire to be Speaker, he finally is a speaker of sorts. Speaker of intimate gay romance books.

  28. 28.

    trollhattan

    September 17, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    @sdhays: ​
    SWAG is they won’t cross her on account of being afraid she’ll shoot them.

  29. 29.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 12:08 pm

    @gene108:

    She’s an inspiration to sexual predators who when doing predatory things – they land the fish instead of being sent to jail.

  30. 30.

    NotMax

    September 17, 2023 at 12:09 pm

    @Shalimar

    Flashes in the pan. Will be stuffed into the “that’s old news” file by the holidays.

  31. 31.

    tobie

    September 17, 2023 at 12:14 pm

    Is it true that Meet the Press invited Biden to come on for an interview for an hour and he declined?

  32. 32.

    Steeplejack

    September 17, 2023 at 12:16 pm

    @tobie:

    I watched the first half of Meet the Press this morning. Kristen Welker said they had invited Biden to do an interview, but she didn’t say anything about a response.

  33. 33.

    tobie

    September 17, 2023 at 12:19 pm

    I didn’t watch but my husband told me that in the build up to the interview today NBC said they had invited Biden and he declined. If that’s true, and I don’t know if it is, it’s harder to complain about the softball interview with Trump. The mood in the country feels like 2010 or 2014 right now…just general malaise. Food prices are so high that I myself get sticker shock whenever I check out at the grocery store. Add in the rise in the price of rent and utilities and you know why Americans are feeling really burdened.

  34. 34.

    zhena gogolia

    September 17, 2023 at 12:29 pm

    @Jeffro: I love Brent!

  35. 35.

    Geminid

    September 17, 2023 at 12:30 pm

    @sdhays: Colorado Republicans probably started thinking about replacing Boebert after the midterms, when she carred what should be a safe seat by less than a thousand votes. This incident will make them think harder. An ambitious Republican office holder in the 3rd CD could get money for a challenge from out of state, because control of Congress is up in the air and Republicans need that seat.

    Colorado Republicans would pony up too. Aside from the question of electability, Boebert is an embarrasment.

  36. 36.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 12:30 pm

    @tobie: I’m seeing nothing on the web regarding this…

  37. 37.

    Alison Rose

    September 17, 2023 at 12:31 pm

    @tobie: Why does Biden declining the interview make it harder to criticize Welker for giving TIFG a tongue-bath?

  38. 38.

    zhena gogolia

    September 17, 2023 at 12:32 pm

    @patrick II: She is evil.

  39. 39.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 12:39 pm

    @Alison Rose: EXCELLENT QUESTION

  40. 40.

    wjca

    September 17, 2023 at 12:39 pm

    @Miss Bianca: She has at least two – possibly three – declared GOP primary candidates to contend with already. So it’s already starting.

    If she can get enough opponents running, she can do a Trump and win her primary with merely a plurality.

  41. 41.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 17, 2023 at 12:42 pm

    Shana Tova to all who celebrate!
    Hoping for a successful March Against Fossil Fuels to the UN today, that doesn’t turn into a superspreader event.
     
    Today is also Constitution Day (for the September 17, 1787 signing of the Constitution by most of the participants in the Constitutional Convention.
    So I wanted to share some wisdom, and other statements, from the founding fathers.
     
    Constitutional Convention Notes:
    An argument for electing the president by direct popular vote
    “The legislature will continually seek to aggrandize and perpetuate themselves….
    It is necessary then that the Executive should be the guardian of the people, even of the lower classes, against legislative tyranny, against the great and the wealthy who…will necessarily compose the legislative body.
    Wealth tends to corrupt the mind and to nourish its love of power, and to stimulate it to oppression. History proves this to be the spirit of the opulent….
    The Executive therefore ought to be so constituted as to be the great protector of the Mass of the people….
    If he is to be the Guardian of the people let him be appointed by the people [i.e., directly elected by the people].”
    Gouverneur Morris, July 19, 1787.

  42. 42.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 17, 2023 at 12:42 pm

    Had a pleasant bike ride this morning, 20 miles or so in northern Calvert and southern Anne Arundel counties. Looks like I didn’t miss much. 🙂

  43. 43.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 17, 2023 at 12:44 pm

    Constitutional Convention Notes 2

    On Leadership and Age

    “Experience had shown…that both a capacity and inclination for public service existed in very advanced stages….[for] instance [a leader] of Venice who was elected after he was 80 years of age.”

    James Wilson, July 24, 1787

  44. 44.

    JPL

    September 17, 2023 at 12:54 pm

    @Geminid: A friend and I just spoke to that, although Boebert might have enough of a following to tank another republican.

    ha that seems unlikely

  45. 45.

    Baud

    September 17, 2023 at 12:55 pm

    @Alison Rose:

    It doesn’t.

  46. 46.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 12:57 pm

    Man, that Ken Paxton thing is going to be nuts going forward. Ken’s gonna go apeshit against his adversaries and there is going to be multiple investigations and consequences. I think we can expect Texas to go even more hard rightas Ken drives out all the moderates out of the party or puts them even in jail.

  47. 47.

    Steeplejack

    September 17, 2023 at 12:58 pm

    @tobie:

    [. . .] NBC said they had invited Biden and he declined. If that’s true, and I don’t know if it is, it’s harder to complain about the softball interview with Trump.

    Trump’s whole campaign strategy—and stay-out-of-jail strategy—is to milk controversy and free media coverage to stoke his base and keep the bucks rolling in. And he’s got all day every day to do it—except for court appearances, of course. Joe Biden has an actual day job and may not feel that he needs to drop everything to quickly appear on some chat show just because Trump did.

    Also, at least on Meet the Press today, when Welker said they had invited Biden to do an interview (without saying anything about an answer) I took the context to be that they were being “fair” in giving Biden the same opportunity they gave Trump. A nothingburger.

  48. 48.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 1:01 pm

    @BlueGuitarist: so far are you guys are all quoting my favorites!

  49. 49.

    Geminid

    September 17, 2023 at 1:03 pm

    @JPL: I don’t see how Boebert could have built up much of a personal following. There may be allegience to her politics, but that can be transferred to another radical conservative with more going on upstairs.

    As someone else pointed out, Boebert’s best hope may be multiple challengers. Unless one can get separation from the others, she might still win a primary with a plurality. I expect the money men will try to pick the most promising challenger and drop a lot of money into their campaign.

  50. 50.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 1:03 pm

    @tobie:

    I make a decent amount of money but even to me I feel like I’m struggling. A trip to the grocery store is at least 60-70 dollars for moderate things. Forget about going out and enjoying a dinner – that’s about 80 dollars or so. 80 dollars used to be what I would spend if I wanted a fancy dinner for two. Now it’s basically going to a run of a mill restaurant.

    I get why –  and I’ll be fine. But someone making 50-60k? I’m not sure how they can eat and pay rent or if you’re on a fixed income?

    It’s grim times and we need to figure this out. Unfortunately, we have no partners in this endeavor.

    Our people are dumb as fuck because they’ll just vote one part in and then if nothing happens vote the other party in and not realizing that one party is the continual cause of problems – but fed up people just want to punish.

  51. 51.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 1:05 pm

    @moonbat: Speaking of Fetterman…

    “Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) quietly has directed the Senate’s Sergeant at Arms to no longer enforce the chamber’s informal dress code for its members,” Axios reports.

    “The new directive will allow Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA), who tends to favor gym shorts and hoodies over the business attire traditionally required in the chamber, to linger on the Senate floor before and after votes.”

    Also, how can the Senate dress code forbid Fetterman’s natural attire on the Floor, yet look the other way with some of the concoctions Sinema dresses up in?

  52. 52.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 1:05 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Also, at least on Meet the Press today, when Welker said they had invited Biden to do an interview (without saying anything about an answer) I took the context to be that they were being “fair” in giving Biden the same opportunity they gave Trump. A nothingburger.

    it’s a false equivalency – the president is fucking busy. this guy is busy too, avoiding lawsuits and also stroking resentment. It’s the stroking of resentment these media types need to be wary of. I mean, if _they_ did something that resentment is going to turn on them. Look at Romney paying 2k a day for private security? That should give them pause.

  53. 53.

    Subsole

    September 17, 2023 at 1:06 pm

    @Ben Cisco:

    Not to be all “well, ackshually…”

    But, well, actually you can go back. It just takes appropriately-sized channel locks and the ability to tune out background noise.

  54. 54.

    Betty Cracker

    September 17, 2023 at 1:07 pm

    Regarding Boebert, in her case, Florida exported one of our nuts to cause problems in a different state instead of being the destination spot for deranged right-wing nuts from the other 49.

  55. 55.

    Subsole

    September 17, 2023 at 1:08 pm

    @gene108:

    You see it over and over on the conservative side: they could have genuinely done something with their lives, but elected to waste their days (and everyone else’s) tormenting people.

  56. 56.

    Subsole

    September 17, 2023 at 1:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    More like the Glory Hole, but sadly spot-on otherwise…

  57. 57.

    jonas

    September 17, 2023 at 1:09 pm

    @Steeplejack: I can’t recall right now, but how many *sitting* presidents have ever done MTP? Usually, if a president is going to do a one-on-one sit-down with a journalist, it’s some prime-time special with the interview being conducted in the WH, POTUS’s schedule permitting.

  58. 58.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 1:10 pm

    @gene108: Waiting for the news Boebert is an unwed pregnant grandma, OR the grandma who had a secret abortion (more likely, IMO)

  59. 59.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 1:15 pm

    @Jackie:
    For conservatives, they have forgiveness and compassion for their fellow conservatives when they stray.

  60. 60.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 1:27 pm

    I read the ad and I had a big WTF. PIA??? JFC..

    Private Internet Access at one time was a decent company and then it went completely off the rails. The guy who bought it is from Korean loyalty and a right wing motherfucker. He took over one our community spaces an irc server and managed to make all of us unsafe and we had to move from that to libera.chat irc.

    I was friends with one of the VPs that worked there and got a front row seat to the craziness.

    Do not and I repeat DO NOT give PIA any business.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/

    Christel was the friend of mine. They all got pwned by that motherfucker, Andrew Lee.

    ETA – https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover

    Before twitter there was this. But this was a community space. Centralized. This is also why I’m so pro-mastodon. De-centralized community space is the only way to fight off people like Andrew Lee and Elon Musk.

  61. 61.

    Scout211

    September 17, 2023 at 1:28 pm

    @Jackie: Waiting for the news Boebert is an unwed pregnant grandma, OR the grandma who had a secret abortion (more likely, IMO)

    Option #1 would have to be changed to “out of wedlock” pregnant Grandma.  She’s still married to Grandpa.

    The boyfriend has been divorced for years, though.

    Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert appears to be on track to have her divorce finalized next month, ushering in a new chapter for the conservative Republican who is never far from the headlines in Washington.

    According to the court docket, Boebert and Jayson Boebert have a non-contested hearing scheduled for October 10. After nearly two decades of marriage, the congresswoman filed for separation in May.

  62. 62.

    piratedan

    September 17, 2023 at 1:36 pm

    @cain: I kind of expect the real explanation to boil down to… “well, he had a REALLY big dick and I wanted it”.

  63. 63.

    JPL

    September 17, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    @Steeplejack:  IMO Fair would have been to ask those republicans who are running against trump in the primarty.   I’m sure some would accept.   As far as I know trump is still a candidate for the republican primary.

  64. 64.

    cain

    September 17, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    @piratedan: Pehaps we can spin it that when it comes to satisfaction only Democratic will do. From healthcare, to jobs, to well.. THAT – Democrats deliver.

  65. 65.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    September 17, 2023 at 1:41 pm

    Woohoo, Fetterman is honorary trash (gotta watch after the commercial) even though his daddy was rich and he has a Harvard degree. “He’s always wearing a hoodie and cargo shorts, the official early-winter Trash Uniform.”

    My Junior Senator!

    Just imagine how awesome Fetterman will be when he grows up!

  66. 66.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 1:43 pm

    @Scout211: Oh! In that case her christian soon-to-be ex will graciously accept the fetus as his to spare poor Lauren public shame….    As IF!😂😂

  67. 67.

    eclare

    September 17, 2023 at 1:51 pm

    @moonbat:

    Yep!

  68. 68.

    Ben Cisco

    September 17, 2023 at 1:53 pm

    @Subsole: Neither of which the GQP possess, even in miniscule quantities.

  69. 69.

    FelonyGovt

    September 17, 2023 at 2:02 pm

    That was great! (Even though it was obviously recorded before the “groping” stuff came out- icing on the cake) And was I the only one to notice that Trae Crowder is kind of hot?

  70. 70.

    sab

    September 17, 2023 at 2:08 pm

    @Alison Rose: For access journalism to work it is necessary to punish bad or incompetent journalists by denying them access. Also Biden is busy these days.

  71. 71.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 2:18 pm

    @FelonyGovt:

    And was I the only one to notice that Trae Crowder is kind of hot?

    Aren’t most people who are clearly comfortable in their own skin? :-)

  72. 72.

    Alison Rose

    September 17, 2023 at 2:27 pm

    @WaterGirl: Especially ones who are also funny.

  73. 73.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    September 17, 2023 at 2:28 pm

    @Betty Cracker: “the Fertile Crescent of crazy” is a keeper

  74. 74.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 2:36 pm

    @Alison Rose: Add smart and you’ve got a hat trick.

  75. 75.

    JoyceH

    September 17, 2023 at 2:36 pm

    @Alison Rose: I’m impressed by how he can rattle off his latest offering so effortlessly while looking right into the camera. Do you suppose he’s got a teleprompter built into the windshield?

    As for Boebert, my instinct tells me this is a career ender for her. Probably wouldn’t be if she was a guy, but the double standard lives on. Add that to the scuffles on the House floor with the other trash Queen Empty Gee and the Money might be deciding it’s just not a good look for them.

  76. 76.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 2:37 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Betty Cracker:

    I feel certain he was not thinking of Betty when he said crazy crackers!

  77. 77.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 2:46 pm

    @JoyceH: I don’t know that you could read and talk that fast at the same time. ??

  78. 78.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 2:58 pm

    For those who didn’t see Neal Katyal on Psaki’s show, he’s very giddy about TIFG’s confession that “he alone, decided the 2020 election was stolen.”

    The video clip is at the end of this RawStory article:

    https://www.rawstory.com/trump-jan-6-2665542442/

  79. 79.

    Yarrow

    September 17, 2023 at 3:08 pm

    @tobie:

    I didn’t watch but my husband told me that in the build up to the interview today NBC said they had invited Biden and he declined. If that’s true, and I don’t know if it is, it’s harder to complain about the softball interview with Trump.

    WHY? This makes no sense. Biden agreeing to or declining an interview with the newest media shill has nothing to do with how said media shill conducts her interviews. No reporter should do softball interviews with presidential candidates or the current president. That this is even a point of discussion is pathetic.

    Also, this is a complete nothingburger. No one will care if Biden appeared on MTP with the new host. Why should Biden agree to an interview with her just because TFG did? That’s a really dumb both side argument. Biden will do what’s best for him and his campaign and having an interview with her at this time is not.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 3:56 pm

    @Jackie: Why is he giddy about that?  Seems like Trump is trying to take the fall for the rest – maybe that’ Trump’s attempt to keep them from flipping on him?

  81. 81.

    JoyceH

    September 17, 2023 at 4:07 pm

    @WaterGirl: It sounds like Ellis has already flipped, the way she’s bashing Trump.

    And I saw a legal pundit the other day say that this early trial for Cheseboro and Powell could be a benefit for the prosecutors. Since it’s a RICO case, the prosecution will present the entire case, so yes, it gives Trump’s defense a preview, but they already know most of the details. And because only Cheseboro and Powell are actually on trial, their lawyers are only going to present a defense to the parts of the case that deal with their clients – so the rest of the case will be out there in public, televised, without a defense being presented.

  82. 82.

    bbleh

    September 17, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    @Jackie: Mentioned this on an earlier thread, and my first reaction on seeing the story (CNN lead) was to channel a Trump lawyer screaming “what the FLYING FK did he just say?!?”

    Isn’t this an admission of (1) intent and (2) having been repeatedly informed ahead of time that it would be illegal?

    Is it really a defense to say “yeah, I listened to my fellow Made Men who said ‘sure, whack him, it’s cool,’ and not to those lawyer jerks who said ‘no no, you can’t do that'”?

    @WaterGirl: well but they went along with it, no?  Isn’t that just an attempt at setting up a Nuremberg Defense.  “I gave ze orderss und zey followed zem.”  Didn’t work last time …

    Lawyers?

  83. 83.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 4:38 pm

    @WaterGirl: He confessed that he ignored his “real lawyers” and admitted he knew he’d lost the election – something he’s denied knowing since Nov ‘20, when he decided to claim the election was stolen.

    edited to add:

    “Donald Trump said he dismissed the views of his own lawyers in continuing to challenge his 2020 defeat because he did not respect them, saying in an interview aired on Sunday that he had made up his own mind that the election had been ‘rigged’ – a false claim that he continues to make,” Reuters reports.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    September 17, 2023 at 5:00 pm

    @JoyceH:

    And because only Cheseboro and Powell are actually on trial, their lawyers are only going to present a defense to the parts of the case that deal with their clients – so the rest of the case will be out there in public, televised, without a defense being presented.

    Oh, interesting!

  85. 85.

    Bill Arnold

    September 17, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    @cain:
    This is interesting, for those who use VPNs. At lot of these are owned by arguably (or actually) shady holding companies.
    VPN Relationship Map
    Note: the image won’t load in my browser larded up with blockers. (Brave + privacy badger + uBlock Origin worked.)

    Brave (desktop) has a Tor private window mode which at least makes one’s IP address report as a Tor exit node. OK for some casual light sort-of-anonymity but should not be trusted.

    When I care about anonymity, I use a dedicated browser using Tor (including DNS) (Tor Browser is best) over a VPN. (Maybe plus another proxy; not saying.)

  86. 86.

    Jim Vandewalker

    September 17, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @BlueGuitarist: And blind! Enrico Dandolo led the Venetian attack on Constantinople when he was 95 years old! And blind!

  87. 87.

    Miss Bianca

    September 17, 2023 at 5:20 pm

    @Geminid: Boebert has a personal following. Just trust me on this one. Now mind, I don’t know how much of it is going to peel off after this stunt. I still can’t get any confirmation on whether or not she actually showed up to that coffee shop gig she was expected at in my hometown the other day – I’ve heard at least one rumor that it was cancelled. We’ll see!

  88. 88.

    StringOnAStick

    September 17, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: He has gorgeous eyes.  There, I said it.

  89. 89.

    Tehanu

    September 17, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    On James Fallows’ X-Twitter feed, a comment:

    Art Martin: “Turns out that Lauren Boebert thought she was elected to the sexual Congress.”

  90. 90.

    prostratedragon

    September 17, 2023 at 5:36 pm

    I know the blog has discussed Leonard Leo’s court fixing, but this nasty detail needs highlighting. Hat tip to
    Sherrilyn Ifill; original article here:

    As APR reported on July 27, Alabama lawmakers working in conjunction with state Attorney General Steve Marshall’s office and Washington D.C. lawyers had “intelligence” that Supreme Court Associate Justice Brett Kavanaugh — who voted with the majority in Milligan just weeks ago to order the new maps under the statutory language — is open to rehearing the case as a constitutional challenge to the validity of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act.

  91. 91.

    Geminid

    September 17, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I wonder how many Boebert Republicans started looking at her differently after she almost lost last November.

  92. 92.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    Sounds like a veiled threat to me! Michael Cohen would say so, l’m guessing…

    “Donald Trump said he hoped Mark Meadows — his final White House chief of staff and a co-defendant in a sweeping racketeering indictment in Georgia stemming from efforts to thwart the 2020 election — was still ‘loyal’ to him,” the New York Times reports.

    “Mr. Trump made his comment during a lengthy interview with Kristen Welker, the new moderator of NBC’s ‘Meet The Press,’ broadcast on Sunday morning. Mr. Trump has been warned by the federal judge in a case also stemming from his efforts to stay in office, brought against him by the special counsel Jack Smith, to avoid saying anything that might affect the testimony of witnesses. His comment about Mr. Meadows could attract new interest.”

  93. 93.

    Miss Bianca

    September 17, 2023 at 5:49 pm

    @Geminid: Well, she has more GOP challengers this time round than she did in ’22. Take that in what sense thou wilt.

  94. 94.

    Geminid

    September 17, 2023 at 6:11 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I can see why there would be more challengers this time. Senator Coram did not come close in last year’s primary, but that was when Boebert was expected to win easily in November. I’ve observed that a lot of Republicans want to win elections, and I expect 3rd CD Republicans are no different.

  95. 95.

    jackmac

    September 17, 2023 at 6:12 pm

    Liberal Redneck is a national treasure.

    “I’m of the Whiskey Tango persuasion and as such I know a trash monster when I see one.”

    Priceless.

  96. 96.

    wjca

    September 17, 2023 at 6:54 pm

    @Jackie:

    TIFG saying that he hoped that Meadows was still ‘loyal’ to him sounds more like soliciting perjury.

  97. 97.

    bbleh

    September 17, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    @StringOnAStick: also generous mouth, sense of humor, obvious intelligence, unforced low-key masculine affect …

    OTOH can’t tell what kind of car he drives, and that of course is pretty much the whole ball-game.

  98. 98.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 7:25 pm

    @wjca: It can be both.

  99. 99.

    Jackie

    September 17, 2023 at 7:54 pm

    Probably dead thread, but there’s not another open thread this will fit:

    Hey, CBS: You just ran a headline about how your new poll showed voters are “concerned” about President Biden’s age, but you failed to mention to readers is, in that SAME poll, a record *65%* of young voters said they will vote for Biden in 2024—more than any other age group.

    https://twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1703448447628542136

    The yoots are alright 👍🏻

  100. 100.

    Brea Plum

    September 17, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    As a fellow whiskey tango trailer-American, I endorse this message.

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