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Odds & Ends Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  September 20, 20239:20 pm| 50 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Talk About Whatever You Want

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The kids are alright!  I hope Gloria Johnson wins the seat.

It was cool when a friend told me about this happening today. The @TheUTKRock is legend! #ItsAnHonor #vfl pic.twitter.com/3hRFzy0gyA

— Rep. Gloria Johnson (@VoteGloriaJ) September 20, 2023

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Democrats keep overperforming in special elections.

25 of 31 contested special elections this year have swung towards the Dems. pic.twitter.com/QADjNNbcjo

— Steven Rattner (@SteveRattner) September 20, 2023

In case you haven’t seen this ad yet, it’s really powerful.

KY Gov Andy Beshear’s new ad on abortion. Democrats, this is the way. pic.twitter.com/GMfY6YHmRi

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) September 20, 2023

Biden cancels $37 million dollars of student loans for former students of the “University of Phoenix”  (CNN)

The Biden administration is canceling nearly $37 million of federal student loan debt for more than 1,200 borrowers who attended the University of Phoenix because it found that the for-profit school misled students about job prospects.

Taking a narrower approach to student debt forgiveness, the Biden administration has continued to cancel some borrowers’ debts under existing programs after the Supreme Court blocked its broad student loan forgiveness program that promised to forgive up to $20,000 for low- and middle-income borrowers.

Similar to Wednesday’s announcement about the University of Phoenix, the Department of Education canceled $72 million in federal student loan debt in August for more than 2,300 borrowers who attended the for-profit Ashford University in California.

Altogether, the administration has canceled more than $117 billion of the nearly $1.7 trillion of outstanding federal student loan debt since 2021.

National Voter Registration Day!  Taylor Swift urged her 232 million followers on Instagram to register to vote at Vote.org – that should leave a mark!

Totally open thread.

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  1. 1.

    RaflW

    September 20, 2023 at 9:22 pm

    Hoping this helps, even just a little, on our over performance in 2024: Tommy Tuberville just voted against confirming General Charles Brown as the next Joint Chief of Staff.

    He wasn’t just posturing and preening on abortion. He really does just flat out hate our military. What a p.o.s.

  2. 2.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2023 at 9:25 pm

    @RaflW:  He was clearly screwed either way, glad he took that path that might screw himself the most.

    He looks like a hypocrite if he votes to confirm.  He looks like he doesn’t give a flying fuck about the military if he doesn’t.  I think door #2 hurts him the most.

  3. 3.

    Betty Cracker

    September 20, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    If anyone needs a Bluesky invite code, hit me up.

  4. 4.

    divF

    September 20, 2023 at 9:31 pm

    The Beshear ad has me in tears.

  5. 5.

    Scout211

    September 20, 2023 at 9:31 pm

    That Beshear ad is so good!

    Yes, Democrats, this is exactly how to campaign.  What a brave young woman.

  6. 6.

    Scout211

    September 20, 2023 at 9:32 pm

    @divF: The Beshear ad has me in tears.

    Yeah, me too. 😢

  7. 7.

    bbleh

    September 20, 2023 at 9:32 pm

    Haw haw haw, them wimmin ain’t gon’ vote, not like they ain’t told to anyway, and ‘specially them young wimmin, they never vote ever!

    [Narrator]: Oops.

  8. 8.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    @Betty Cracker: You’re up late!

  9. 9.

    Lyrebird

    September 20, 2023 at 9:41 pm

    @Scout211: ​
     What a brave young woman.

    Same here, exactly those words came to mine as soon as I heard her speak.

    And good on the Beshear campaign for boldly speaking the bald truth instead of trying to appease.

    Thanks WG for highlighting these!

  10. 10.

    Kayla Rudbek

    September 20, 2023 at 9:41 pm

    Reposted from below: Good, a open thread, so a question for the jackal community: anyone ever used self-adhesive vinyl tiles as backsplash for a kitchen wall? If so, do you have any brand recommendations or suggestions? I have a space 16 inches high and 130 inches wide, so I am looking at 4×4 inches tiles on Amazon. Something to coordinate with blue/gray marbled Formica is preferable.

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    September 20, 2023 at 9:43 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek

    Also reposted from below as a reply.

    No recommendation per se but will suggest taking into consideration when settling on a product whether the space is just a wall or if it (or part of it) is a backsplash and/or subject to the heat and fumes (grease) accompanying a stove top.

  12. 12.

    bbleh

    September 20, 2023 at 9:46 pm

    @Scout211: concur.  And she’s not hesitant or shy, and she doesn’t mince words.

    She’s not just a good ad subject; she’s a role model.

  13. 13.

    TheOtherHank

    September 20, 2023 at 9:46 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I’d like one, please.

  14. 14.

    bbleh

    September 20, 2023 at 9:47 pm

    @Kayla Rudbek: here is a (gift) link from WaPo today about adhesive tile.  Might be useful.  (Hope it works correctly…)

    wapo.st/3RtANzd

  15. 15.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    September 20, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    So its great that debt is being cancelled for deceptive, trash schools like the University of Phoenix, but what is being done to get the money back or prevent it from going to those schools in the first place? I mean, they shouldn’t get a dime of federal money going forward and should be sued for fraud.

  16. 16.

    Dan B

    September 20, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    Taylor Swift’s call to register to vote has one registration group receiving 72 requests per second!

  17. 17.

    eclare

    September 20, 2023 at 9:54 pm

    I hope Gloria Johnson wins too, but I live in TN, and I’m a realist.

  18. 18.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 20, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    I don’t think I realized until recently how viscerally angry people get about student loan forgiveness. But it seems to really specifically rankle some people I know. That people could take out student loans they can’t afford and not be punished for it– they just take that as a deep moral outrage against responsibility.

  19. 19.

    eclare

    September 20, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    @Dan B:

    Awesome.  Glad to see her using her power.

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2023 at 10:03 pm

    @Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I have no idea whether they are pursuing that or not.  Seems like that would be a DOJ thing, not a Biden thing.

  21. 21.

    WaterGirl

    September 20, 2023 at 10:04 pm

    @Dan B: Is that all? :-)

  22. 22.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 20, 2023 at 10:11 pm

    @Betty Cracker: ​I have no clue what blue sky is, so here’s the Food Network’s 10 favorite Ina Garten’s comfort food recipes.​​
    This website HATES Firefox, I can no longer use the visual tab, text only, and it’s terribly frustrating because there is no formatting.​
    And that’s in no way a shot at you, WG, just the incompatibility issue.

  23. 23.

    geg6

    September 20, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @Dan B:

    I read that one count was 13k an hour.

    TSwift is a juggernaut.

  24. 24.

    Hoppie

    September 20, 2023 at 10:16 pm

    I am a former Kentucky voter, and I approve this ad.

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    September 20, 2023 at 10:18 pm

    @Dan B: obviously some kind of hormonal response.  We really need to rethink this whole 19th Amendment thing.  For the sake of the country.  Harrumph.

  26. 26.

    piratedan

    September 20, 2023 at 10:19 pm

    @geg6: agreed and she seems to understand that while she is the “talent” is that she doesn’t do it alone and takes care of the people that surround her and her tour.

    She genuinely cares about her fans and her family and appears to be very well grounded.

  27. 27.

    Lyrebird

    September 20, 2023 at 10:19 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: Seems to be fifty fifty for my Firefox, like I am in visual mode right now, no problem, but for my reply to Scout211 I had to be in the Text window, couldn’t see anything in the Visual window

    ETA for WaterGirl in case she wants this:   Firefox 117.0.1 on a beat-up used Dell Latitude from work

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 20, 2023 at 10:21 pm

    OT – NPS Sounds Gallery – Pig Frog

    Enjoy!

  29. 29.

    hotshoe

    September 20, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    I don’t remember who it was, pretty sure it was one of y’all who suggested Wordplay (instead of FTNYT wordle),
    Today’s daily #262 is, ugh, a difficult letter combo plus a bit unusual in English vocabulary. Okay, I didn’t lose in the end, tough game but still fun.
    So thanks whoever you are for suggesting Wordplay!

  30. 30.

    Suzanne

    September 20, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: I mean, I get mad that “public” universities call themselves that when taxpayer money only covers approximately 10-15% of the cost of attendance in many states. Totally the same. ;)

  31. 31.

    MisterDancer

    September 20, 2023 at 10:32 pm

    @HumboldtBlue: This website HATES Firefox, I can no longer use the visual tab, text only, and it’s terribly frustrating because there is no formatting

    I use Firefox (Win11) and actually the visual tab just started working regularly for me a few weeks ago. That was after months of having it flake out on the regular; I could get Visual mode only after multiple reloads, sometimes. That’s not an issue I’ve run into of late.

  32. 32.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 20, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    @Lyrebird: ​ @MisterDancer: ​
     

    It used to be 50/50 for me too, but with a new computer it’s now, other than one post yesterday, all Text. Win10 latest FF update, whatever version that is.

  33. 33.

    Suzanne

    September 20, 2023 at 10:44 pm

    @geg6: Dude, I would be terrified to get on the wrong side of Taylor Swift.

  34. 34.

    anitamargarita

    September 20, 2023 at 10:52 pm

    @Suzanne: right, why would you risk it it any way? Her fans are fierce

  35. 35.

    Alison Rose

    September 20, 2023 at 10:54 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Sounds like a dog barking through an N95 mask.

  36. 36.

    frosty

    September 20, 2023 at 10:54 pm

    @MisterDancer: ​I use Firefox on Win 11 and every comment seems to default to Text. It’s a PITA. Edit comment is randomly Text or Visual.
    Oh well, the burdens of life (and FYWP) we put up with. Sigh.​

  37. 37.

    Dan B

    September 20, 2023 at 10:55 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Sadly only 13,000 per hour ;<(

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    September 20, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @anitamargarita: She represents the country’s overachieving women under 40. Not the people I’d ever want to anger.

  39. 39.

    wjca

    September 20, 2023 at 11:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: He was clearly screwed either way, glad he took that path that might screw himself the most.

    He looks like a hypocrite if he votes to confirm.  He looks like he doesn’t give a flying fuck about the military if he doesn’t.  I think door #2 hurts him the most.

    If he wasn’t dumber than dirt, it might have occurred to him that his least bad option, politically, would have been to just not be there for the vote. But he is — dumber than dirt, that is.

    Too bad it’s so long before Alabama (and the rest of us) can get rid of him.

  40. 40.

    Sure Lurkalot

    September 20, 2023 at 11:03 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    I don’t think I realized until recently how viscerally angry people get about student loan forgiveness.

    I get viscerally angry about people who cheat on/evade taxes. Costs about $1 trillion. PER YEAR. Total college debt is estimated at $1.75 trillion.

  41. 41.

    RaflW

    September 20, 2023 at 11:19 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: They cheat twice, because they also spent some of their riches to have a tax code written that already favors them grossly. And then they underpay on even that beneficial scheme.

  42. 42.

    Shalimar

    September 20, 2023 at 11:26 pm

    @Matt McIrvin: If these viscerally angry people went to college in the 20th century, they can go to hell with their judgmental bullshit.  They have no clue how much more a degree costs than it did then, how much less states subsidize than they used to, and how salary stagnation means you can spend a lifetime just paying back the loan with no real benefit for getting it.

  43. 43.

    hotshoe

    September 20, 2023 at 11:32 pm

    @wjca: ​
     
    Yep.

  44. 44.

    divF

    September 21, 2023 at 1:09 am

    @Alison Rose: There is a box at the bottom where you can answer yes or no the question, “Was this page helpful?”

  45. 45.

    206inKY

    September 21, 2023 at 4:23 am

    In 2019, I knocked on literally hundreds of doors for Beshear. We had to claw out every vote to manifest the impossible—and it worked.

    This time around, Beshear is dominating in yard signs and the vibe is very different. Knock on wood, I think he will romp. Dobbs changed everything, and Beshear isn’t afraid.

  46. 46.

    Betty Cracker

    September 21, 2023 at 6:05 am

    @TheOtherHank: Here you go:

    bsky-social-63vfj-6kvan

  47. 47.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 21, 2023 at 6:40 am

    @Shalimar: ah, but you see, if “the government got out of it” market forces would fix everything and college would be affordable again, or else people wouldn’t waste money on useless humanities degrees.

    I think a lot of what annoys me about politics today isn’t that it got worse, it’s that a lot of stuff that used to sound reasonable to me doesn’t any more. 30 years ago I might have found all this prima facie plausible, while considering myself a liberal Democrat.

  48. 48.

    JML

    September 21, 2023 at 8:30 am

    @Shalimar: There’s a few different things fueling the rage against student loan forgiveness. Yes, you have the people who went to college in the 80’s or earlier when public school were much more affordable (the defunding of public universities started in the 90’s, BTW, with the Gingrich Republicans leading the charge) who think people are getting a big giveaway on their dime.

    You also have the cadre of people who graduated in the 2000’s who either paid off their loans or have little left and bring the attitude of “once again, I’m not going to benefit from this and everyone else will”. And you have the people who didn’t go to college, who have been told to rage against those effete liberal college people who supposedly look down on them anyways, and why should they get anything?

    For 40+ years the US has been subjected to a culture of selfishness (I blame the goddamn Reagan “Revolution” for so much of this, but it’s been in everything: music, tv, politics, culture: all that matters is that I get mine) and that’s the biggest part of what drives this. No policy should happen if I don’t personally benefit from it. We’ve completely lost the plot when it comes to taking care of our community as a whole, and it’s the core tenet of GOP politics if they have one. It’s why they push the narrative that government assistance programs are “giveaways” that let people coast through life while the “normal” people have to work.

    Great distraction from the massive wealth transfer that’s happened as they keep siphoning money away from working people to the wealthiest in the country, creating more and more income inequality and concentration of wealth at the top. And they sell it by convincing people that they can be part of that wealth if it wasn’t for those bloodsuckers at the bottom taking from them, when the reality is the damage is done by the rich.

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2023 at 8:51 am

    @hotshoe: I know I suggested WordPlay – I have totally abandoned Worlds because the NYT ruined it for me.  So I’ll accept your thanks, but I may not be the only one!

    I feel good if I get the word in 3 or 4, but there have been some really tough ones.

  50. 50.

    WaterGirl

    September 21, 2023 at 8:53 am

    @wjca: You are so right!

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