@zhena gogolia: So are the Eastern Sierra. We went up there two weeks ago and saw some of the best color we’ve seen out here. Already submitted a couple OTR posts of pix ;)
What else is going on for everybody on what seems to be a quiet and solemn day?
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eclare
Looking at that shrub makes me happy.
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trollhattan
We can really pick ’em.
Federal authorities closed supermarkets owned by Sacramento City Councilman Sean Loloee — who has been accused by prosecutors of withholding wages for employees — during a raid Thursday.
“The Homeland Security Investigations and the IRS investigations have conducted an ‘authorized criminal enforcement activity’ at the Viva Supermarket locations,” said John A. Pearl, a spokesman for the IRS. “To protect all parties involved, to include the agents and subjects of the investigation, that’s all I can share with you at this moment.”
Loloee, who owns the Viva Supermarket in Del Paso Heights (3845 Marysville Blvd.) and two other local Viva stores, has been scrutinized three times by federal prosecutors since 2009. Investigators said he violated federal minimum wage, overtime compensation, record keeping and child labor laws, according to The Bee’s previous reporting. A follow-up investigation in 2020 found that he allegedly violated these laws again, and then a third investigation alleged he coerced employees.
Dude’s been in hot water ever since taking office, including solid evidence he lived in a tony suburb and not in town–where the house he owns and probably rents out is packed with a couple dozen vehicles, stuff neighbors love.
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sab
@WaterGirl: ( smallest tiny type. i know. we have them too.)
Larger type. Spell their name!
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comrade scotts agenda of rage
In the CO Rockies, we’ve had some of the best fall colors I can remember.
Being an East Coaster, for decades I have poo-pooed people here going on about “fall colors” because, well, East Coast = Glorious Fall Colors
But I gotta admit that this year, for whatever reason, climate, my changing perception on things, who knows, there were some amazing scenes, particularly on the Western Slopes.
Of course now our backyard ash and the two cottonwoods out front are dumping leaves in anticipation of our first in-Denver snowfall predicted by the weather guessers for Saturday.
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Spanish Moss
Gorgeous! I live in New England and that is as pretty as anything I see out of my windows.
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sab
@WaterGirl: Husband and I had decided against early voting and now we can’t agree where to vote. United Methodist Church on N Hawkins, or St Paul’s Church on Market.
St Paul’s is my church but we haven’t voted there in YEARS.
@sab: I just call it burning bush; that’s the name I have always used.
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UncleEbeneezer
I’m a bit bummed that I won’t be able to go to the Huntington Gardens on Friday for their Strange Science, Halloween event, but my co-worker has an emergency and I need to cover for him. I will be able to go but not until after work for the last hour (my wife will go for the first three hours, solo until I arrive), and I’m not sure how into it I will be after coming straight from work. But at least now I’ll have a rare Sat morning off!
Also kind of bummed that one of my tennis gigs, assistant coaching for a local HS team has ended. I thought I would be there one more week but the main coach informed me on Monday that she didn’t need me since they didn’t make the playoffs. I’m bummed because I really enjoyed working with the girls/young women and was looking forward to saying goodbye and wishing them good luck.
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Jeffg166
Such a reliable plant for autumn color. It’s the only thing in Philadelphia that has the kind of color I remember as a kid. This is another year of washed out color.
@Jeffg166: I had it in front of my house (north side) for a few years and it didn’t do much. When I added my deck in front, that goes around the side, I moved it to the back yard. (brutal sun)
My burning bush like brutal sun a lot more than I do!
I was there last week and it has a lively atmosphere and specializes in small plates/mezze.
It’s quite popular, so we may need to have a critical mass to get a reservation. It’s also right across the street from the Gallery Place Metro, in the heart of DC.
Something to consider — maybe around 17-18 November 2023? Sooner? Later? Weekday? Weekend?
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sab
@WaterGirl: Good idea. My mom called it a latin name she could spell and I cannot. I don’t have one so whatever.
The black soil of this region formed when the most recent glacial episodes (Illinoisan and Wisconsonian, ca. 150,000 – 50,000 years ago) deposited glacial drift in the flat landscape. These rich mesic soils endured scorching summer heat, intense spring rains, lightning fires, and freezing temperatures. The extensive array of grasses and forbs that grew on the land were able to withstand these diverse weather conditions. Over time, this soil became rich and productive, and prairie plants became anchored through deep root systems.
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jackmac
Vibrant color!! I l love the variety of fall. Too bad it’s so fleeting.
I wasn’t thinking this when I put up this post, but with all the discussion of fall colors…
I would LOVE to have a whole bunch of On the Road posts with fall colors. Take pictures, you guys, and share them with the rest of us. My burning bush is the only fall color right now, as far as the eye can see. So far, anyway!
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Geminid
@WaterGirl: I’ve been looking up news about the Gaza war. None of it’s good, but I ran into an unrelated story on Laura Rozen’s Twitter timeline. She reposted Washington Post reporter Seung Min Kim:
News- the White House is bringing new Speaker Michael Johnson to the Situation Room (as well as leaders of Foreign Affairs/Aprops/Intel) for a classified briefing on Biden’s nearly $106 billion supplemental request.
@rekoob: Sounds good to me! I’m booked on the 18th, but in general, I’m pretty flexible.
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sab
@WaterGirl: Not in Ohio. We can only vote at the Board of Elections. We are a Republicans control everything state. Law is on his side, but also our secretary of state was apparently dropped on his head in infancy. Not the brightest even in the Republican tool drawer.
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Suzanne
Here in western PA, autumn is stinkin’ glorious. Picture-postcard. Mr. Suzanne and I went running on this amazing trail a few miles south of us, with leaves floating down as we ran. Just awesome.
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Rob
Watergirl, that photo is AMAZING!! It put a big smile on my face.
Mr DAW got out of a zoom meeting early because one of the guys “found out” it was his wife’s birthday, and he had to take her out to dinner. Another guy suggested that he just do it tomorrow night. Luckily for the first guy, he knew better.
We were up in the Mid-Hudson Valley last weekend, and the colors were gorgeous (though not fully out, damn climate change!) Some of the brightest were red bushes similar to that.
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UncleEbeneezer
Also going on today: debating whether or not I wanna ski for my B-day in Taos. I hear it’s amazing, but skiing is so damn expensive and would effectively eat up a whole day (I rarely have the energy to do much in evening/night after skiing). So thinking about some B-day alternatives in town that would be easier.
Husband and I had decided against early voting and now we can’t agree where to vote. United Methodist Church on N Hawkins, or St Paul’s Church on Market.
@WaterGirl: Seems to me he’s also putting the full weight of the office on him, and it’s somewhat flattering. So not just hoping for good faith, but impressing upon him that he has the choice to take this seriously and not just stick with the kneejerk responses he came in with.
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Mousebumples
@WaterGirl – Wisconsin is filled with fall color right now. My maple is gorgeous, along with other neighborhood trees…
@Redshift: Yeah, I had a maybe similar thought. Let him see what it’s like to be “on the inside” so that when he pulls a bunch of dick moves, he will know what he’s missing, and maybe he’ll think twice.
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RevRick
My wife’s sister and her family live in Maine and have been locked down. The schools in Freeport and South Portland were closed, so the sister and brother-in-law have been doing grandparents duty.
Chester County PA was on edge for days when a convict escaped the county jail. This will get increasingly stressful for the folks in Maine as long as the killer isn’t found.
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CaseyL
That is a gorgeous bush. How long does it stay looking like that?
My townhouse complex is surrounded by conifers, so on the one hand we don’t get much/any Fall Foliage. OTOH, we also don’t get sad naked trees once all the leaves fall down. (We do have a few maples, including one right by my porch, which deprive us of dramatic color in autumn and still are sad/naked in winter. But they do drop leaves everywhere with great gusto, so there’s that!)
Just got off a webinar of State Employee Retirement Benefits, even though I’m still 5 years out. This is the first of two webinars today, and was a basic overview of all benefits retirees get. There will be a second one later this afternoon offering a deep-dive into health insurance coverage. But most of the questions were about retiree health insurance, which the hosts answered cheerfully enough, while reminding everyone that the later session is the best way to find out all that stuff.
Among the non-insurance questions were whether retired state employees still get state-subsidized ORCA cards (mass transit): we do not. I’m pretty sure that was a retiree benefit once upon a time, maybe 10 or 20 years ago. No longer. Alas.
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sab
@WaterGirl: They change where we vote every election. We don’t agree where we are supposed to vote. How nuts is that? My parents voted in the same place for sixty years. I voted in the same place for twenty years.
@CaseyL: It stays pretty long, until there is a heavy rain or a lot of wind, both of which take the leaves down. So far, so good!
I’ll let you know how long it last.
We will have a hard freeze in a very small number of days. I should have cut my last hydrangeas this morning before the rain started. There are maybe a dozen or so bloom; when the rain stops I’ll cut them and put them in a vase.
The apt complex I live in had a halloween lunch, a bit they do for a few holidays every year. The patio they hold these on is next to my apartment and they bring decent food and music. LOUD music. I’ve been unavailable for a bit.
@Brachiator: My thought was obviously for the victims, but children also who might be robbed of Halloween activities. The second part sound frivilous, but it’s not meant to be.
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Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: Euonymous alatus / Burning Bush are east Asian: northern China, Korea, and Japan.
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brendancalling
@Jeffg166: depends where you are in Philly. I’ve really enjoyed what passes for autumn this year.
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Steve in the ATL
@WaterGirl: they don’t call me Steve in the WTF for nothing!
Oh I didn’t even think of that. One more formerly safe childhood pleasure gone if he isn’t captured. And you know those kids have planned their costumes, etc.
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Steve in the ATL
@brendancalling: I stayed at the Logan a couple of weeks ago. It was nice, until the rain.
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Dan B
@WaterGirl: Mostly in parks but we are still in drought and the reservoirs are at 30% capacity so drizzly Seattle is close to rationing. We have ponds that get water from the roofs so we’re able to water but there were still some stressed plants.
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Leto
@JPL: just another norm we’re sacrificing for Moloch.
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Gin & Tonic
So the IAEA reports “powerful explosions” around ZNPP. I wonder what the source of those explosions could possibly be…
Powerful explosions shook area near Ukraine’s Khmelnitsky NPP overnight, shattering windows on the site. No impact on operations but highlights dangers to nuclear safety & security during ongoing military conflict. https://t.co/qaTyQYdMuSpic.twitter.com/k77X6pUav3
— IAEA – International Atomic Energy Agency ⚛️ (@iaeaorg) October 25, 2023
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Leto
@brendancalling: if you can head out towards Reading and Lancaster (where we live), it’s a gorgeous spectrum of foliage.
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brendancalling
@WaterGirl: metal playlist is ready for Saturday. I think y’all will appreciate it.
I live in Washington State where we have all mail-in voting. Recently, in what for me was the worst imaginably bad timing, I had to move from one town to another. I changed my address with the clerk, but in the last two days I have received three ballots. I’m going to assume they want me to vote three times. Of course, I won’t, but what if they send me three ballots next year? Oh, the temptation.
All mail-in voting, is, on balance, better. At first, I missed physically going to vote, but mail-in voting has some very real advantages. The ballots arrive about 18 days before the deadline — a visible reminder (for those who are paying attention or are very busy) that election day is upon us. With the ballot in hand, and almost three weeks, it helps encourage research into the lesser known candidates and offices, some of which are “non-partisan” despite the political nature of the decision-making. Drop-off is easy, because we don’t have a fascist governor or legislature trying to suppress voting. Or one can mail it in, no stamp required.
In case of age, infirmity, or a busy schedule, including a job that makes getting time off to vote difficult, mailing or ballot drop-off is easy. Even those who are swamped could put their ballot in a drop-off box at 3 AM (except on election day itself), if necessary.
Nothing is likely to get Americans to be better informed, but with all mail-in voting at least it is easier for the willing to cast their votes.
Since 1968, I have never failed to vote. One year, long before mail-in voting, after starting up El Capitan in Yosemite, I rappelled to the ground from 600 feet up, hitch-hiked to the Post Office, cast my absentee ballot, hitch-hiked back to El Cap, jumared back up the 600 feet, and finished the 34 pitch, ~3,000 foot climb. I vote.
@TriassicSands: With all of the threats to poll workers I think mail in is going to have to be the way to go anywhere that actually wants people to vote. For states that don’t care, some may have initiative opportunities for people to tell the state that mail in is how they want to vote.
@WaterGirl: I trust that among some solid stuff, PUJOTUS feeds the new Shrieker of the Grouse a few fascist-fascinating crumbs of disinformation…so that when Cheetoh Benito immediately starts spouting off about them, Dark Brandon has an ironclad excuse to cut the Unterstrombinnedführer, um, SOTH right out of the loop for good.
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HinTN
@WaterGirl: I can send you a picture of an amazing red maple we planted 20 years ago if you want yo add it to this thread.
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Uncle Cosmo
@TriassicSands: Recently, in what for me was the worst imaginably bad timing, I had to move from one town to another.
…One step ahead of the shoeshine,
Two steps away from the county line,
Just tryin’ to keep my customers satisfied,
Satisfied… (obscure Simon & Garfunkel track)
@Uncle Cosmo: New SOTH is a big fan of Christian kook David Barton who has been contacted by Johnson about staff. Barton believes that the Constitution grants more rights to Christians because it copied much of the Bible. He wants to recriminalize homosexuality. Whee!
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mrmoshpotato
@brendancalling: Oh boy. Gonna be some interesting penmanship on those postcards with all the headbanging going on.
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Geminid
@Uncle Cosmo: CIA Director Burns to Speaker Johnson:
“Now I have to tell you some very, highly sensitive information. Whatever you do, DON’T TELL LAUREN BOEBERT!”
And then Burns lays the trap.
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UncleEbeneezer
@brendancalling: Not quite metal, but my wife stumbled upon this great yawning cat image known as “Like Linus” from the Deftones that I was totally unaware of. It was used in promotions for their first single, Bored and first album, Adrenalize. Somehow despite being a pretty big fan I had never seen it before. Anyways it reminded me how amazing that 1995 album was and how I’d never heard anything like them before. Along with Tool whose first album, Undertow also completely blew my mind and made metal interesting to me again, at the time.
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JPL
@Leto: I assume the elves will carry cause you know mall Santa will be next. What better way to satisfy a sick mind.
I wish people would wake up and realize that this is not the way to be exceptional.
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Cameron
@Dan B: Isn’t Barton who writes (or used to write) made-up American history books?
@rekoob: I’m game if not right after Election Day. We’re thinking of retiring to coastal Delaware and plan to visit that weekend to see what it’s like off season.
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Glidwrith
@WaterGirl: Have you seen any comments by ruemara lately? She seems to have dropped off the radar.
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sab
@WaterGirl: We don’t vote in “our church.” We vote wherever the Board of Elections tell us, which is usually a church.They have parking and a sense of civic responsibility. The BoE switches us around a lot (voter suppression? ) This year we ar confused again. Husband thinks there, I think here, we’ll find out trying to vote.
Not to be a Debby Downer about Fall color (and that burning bush WG posted is gorgeous!), but it all reminds me of death since that’s what causes it. The leaves are dying, and the lack of chlorophyll is what allows the other colors in the leaf to show. Give me a vibrant green anytime. Spring is my favorite, with the light green (almost neon) new growth at the ends of the fir trees.
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kalakal
@Cameron: That’s the chap, had books recalled due to “innacuracies”
@UncleEbeneezer: I took two trips up to the Eastern Sierra this year. I was up at Bishop Creek the week before you and it was about a week pre-peak, still nice. I went up to Big Pine Creek last Friday, at peak at the trailhead, but a few days past peak once I climbed above the First Falls. I ended up hiking all the way to Third Lake.
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sab
Test question: who knows what “there is a light at the end of the frog” means? That has changed my life. My husband says ” who even knows what it means?”
Somedays I wonder why I am married. Today has been one of those days.
@sab: It means you are acquainted with Ursula Vernon’s* Hugo acceptance speech.
*aka T Kingfisher
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Gvg
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): Actually, the trees are preparing to sleep and withdrawing the chlorophyll and other nutrients into the permanent structures (stems and trunk) leaving behind the temporary stuff they can’t reuse. The vivid colors were always there, but covered up by the green solar energy converting chlorophyll. The leaves fall, to become soil and be reused by the roots. It’s just a very slow sleep wake cycle to a different than us creature.
That said, I grew up in Florida and hate winter. Bare trees to not look good, snow looks like mars after I endure cold awhile and fall color should be the orange tree crop getting ripe.
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A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@Gvg: Thank you! What a nice perspective. So it is just death for the temporary stuff and the tree is just going to sleep. And yes, I struggle with truly realizing trees (generally) work on a much longer life cycle.
It’s just a very slow sleep wake cycle to a different than us creature.
ETA: Being more animal-oriented, but working to become a gardener, I have previously struggled with pruning – what, cut off its arms!?! Plants are different than animals (but wonderful)! My husband and I recently went to a native plant nursery and had the best time. Pollinators and hummingbirds will hopefully be happier next year.
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Chris T.
Probably dead thread by now, but I looked it up: “Burning bush” plant is Euonymus alatus (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus), which is considered an invasive species so one should be careful with it.
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UncleEbeneezer
Lovely! Thanks for sharing.
zhena gogolia
New England is gorgeous this year.
HumboldtBlue
That’s lovely.
sab
What the Fuck Are You Feeding that Plant!
Our euonymous are gorgeous this year also. The maples are pathetic
Somebody has spelling problems. eu…whatever.
Alison Rose
I’d say that’s more than a bit!
rikyrah
Look at that bright coloring :)
UncleEbeneezer
@zhena gogolia: So are the Eastern Sierra. We went up there two weeks ago and saw some of the best color we’ve seen out here. Already submitted a couple OTR posts of pix ;)
WaterGirl
@sab: I’ve had that bush for a long time. :-)
WaterGirl
@rikyrah: I LOVE that happy red color. It’s like a whole bush of rosy cheeks!
WaterGirl
What else is going on for everybody on what seems to be a quiet and solemn day?
eclare
Looking at that shrub makes me happy.
trollhattan
We can really pick ’em.
Dude’s been in hot water ever since taking office, including solid evidence he lived in a tony suburb and not in town–where the house he owns and probably rents out is packed with a couple dozen vehicles, stuff neighbors love.
sab
@WaterGirl: ( smallest tiny type. i know. we have them too.)
Larger type. Spell their name!
comrade scotts agenda of rage
In the CO Rockies, we’ve had some of the best fall colors I can remember.
Being an East Coaster, for decades I have poo-pooed people here going on about “fall colors” because, well, East Coast = Glorious Fall Colors
But I gotta admit that this year, for whatever reason, climate, my changing perception on things, who knows, there were some amazing scenes, particularly on the Western Slopes.
Of course now our backyard ash and the two cottonwoods out front are dumping leaves in anticipation of our first in-Denver snowfall predicted by the weather guessers for Saturday.
Spanish Moss
Gorgeous! I live in New England and that is as pretty as anything I see out of my windows.
sab
@WaterGirl: Husband and I had decided against early voting and now we can’t agree where to vote. United Methodist Church on N Hawkins, or St Paul’s Church on Market.
St Paul’s is my church but we haven’t voted there in YEARS.
WaterGirl
@sab: I just call it burning bush; that’s the name I have always used.
UncleEbeneezer
I’m a bit bummed that I won’t be able to go to the Huntington Gardens on Friday for their Strange Science, Halloween event, but my co-worker has an emergency and I need to cover for him. I will be able to go but not until after work for the last hour (my wife will go for the first three hours, solo until I arrive), and I’m not sure how into it I will be after coming straight from work. But at least now I’ll have a rare Sat morning off!
Also kind of bummed that one of my tennis gigs, assistant coaching for a local HS team has ended. I thought I would be there one more week but the main coach informed me on Monday that she didn’t need me since they didn’t make the playoffs. I’m bummed because I really enjoyed working with the girls/young women and was looking forward to saying goodbye and wishing them good luck.
Jeffg166
Such a reliable plant for autumn color. It’s the only thing in Philadelphia that has the kind of color I remember as a kid. This is another year of washed out color.
WaterGirl
@sab: You could always each vote in the church of your preference. It could be kind of like a procession. :-)
But then you’d have to agree on which church to go to first.
raven
East Central Illinois black dirt!
WaterGirl
@Jeffg166: I had it in front of my house (north side) for a few years and it didn’t do much. When I added my deck in front, that goes around the side, I moved it to the back yard. (brutal sun)
My burning bush like brutal sun a lot more than I do!
WaterGirl
@raven: Don’t you guys have black dirt, too?
Jeffg166
@zhena gogolia: Take pictures. Philadelphia is bland yet again.
raven
@WaterGirl: Oh hell no, Georgia Red clay!
rekoob
This might be a good time and place to suggest a DC meetup. I was thinking shortly after the Virginia/Ohio elections at one of Jose Andres’s places:
Zaytinya — Gallery Place Metro
I was there last week and it has a lively atmosphere and specializes in small plates/mezze.
It’s quite popular, so we may need to have a critical mass to get a reservation. It’s also right across the street from the Gallery Place Metro, in the heart of DC.
Something to consider — maybe around 17-18 November 2023? Sooner? Later? Weekday? Weekend?
sab
@WaterGirl: Good idea. My mom called it a latin name she could spell and I cannot. I don’t have one so whatever.
raven
The Lincoln Home was built on the Grand Prairie region that covered 90% of central Illinois prior to European settlement. The black soil of the Grand Prairie supported a rich display of grasses and wildflowers that grew upwards of 8 feet tall in this relatively flat area. Big bluestem (Andropogon gerardii), Indian grass (Sorghastrum nutans), and compass plant (Silphium laciniatum) thrived in this climate and soil.
The black soil of this region formed when the most recent glacial episodes (Illinoisan and Wisconsonian, ca. 150,000 – 50,000 years ago) deposited glacial drift in the flat landscape. These rich mesic soils endured scorching summer heat, intense spring rains, lightning fires, and freezing temperatures. The extensive array of grasses and forbs that grew on the land were able to withstand these diverse weather conditions. Over time, this soil became rich and productive, and prairie plants became anchored through deep root systems.
jackmac
Vibrant color!! I l love the variety of fall. Too bad it’s so fleeting.
WaterGirl
I wasn’t thinking this when I put up this post, but with all the discussion of fall colors…
I would LOVE to have a whole bunch of On the Road posts with fall colors. Take pictures, you guys, and share them with the rest of us. My burning bush is the only fall color right now, as far as the eye can see. So far, anyway!
Geminid
@WaterGirl: I’ve been looking up news about the Gaza war. None of it’s good, but I ran into an unrelated story on Laura Rozen’s Twitter timeline. She reposted Washington Post reporter Seung Min Kim:
Ed.
WaterGirl
@rekoob: I also copied your comment to the Talk of Meetups thread. Just so all proposed meetups are at least represented there.
Redshift
@rekoob: Sounds good to me! I’m booked on the 18th, but in general, I’m pretty flexible.
sab
@WaterGirl: Not in Ohio. We can only vote at the Board of Elections. We are a Republicans control everything state. Law is on his side, but also our secretary of state was apparently dropped on his head in infancy. Not the brightest even in the Republican tool drawer.
Suzanne
Here in western PA, autumn is stinkin’ glorious. Picture-postcard. Mr. Suzanne and I went running on this amazing trail a few miles south of us, with leaves floating down as we ran. Just awesome.
Rob
Watergirl, that photo is AMAZING!! It put a big smile on my face.
UncleEbeneezer
TMI…I thought this was a family-friendly blog, lol
Dorothy A. Winsor
Mr DAW got out of a zoom meeting early because one of the guys “found out” it was his wife’s birthday, and he had to take her out to dinner. Another guy suggested that he just do it tomorrow night. Luckily for the first guy, he knew better.
WaterGirl
@Geminid: Interesting. Biden will treat the new guy with an assumption of good faith, until proven otherwise.
The proof otherwise may not take long!
We shall see.
Redshift
We were up in the Mid-Hudson Valley last weekend, and the colors were gorgeous (though not fully out, damn climate change!) Some of the brightest were red bushes similar to that.
UncleEbeneezer
Also going on today: debating whether or not I wanna ski for my B-day in Taos. I hear it’s amazing, but skiing is so damn expensive and would effectively eat up a whole day (I rarely have the energy to do much in evening/night after skiing). So thinking about some B-day alternatives in town that would be easier.
WaterGirl
@sab: Then what the heck did you mean by this?
WaterGirl
@UncleEbeneezer:
I have no idea where you ever got that impression! :-)
Redshift
@WaterGirl: Seems to me he’s also putting the full weight of the office on him, and it’s somewhat flattering. So not just hoping for good faith, but impressing upon him that he has the choice to take this seriously and not just stick with the kneejerk responses he came in with.
Mousebumples
@WaterGirl – Wisconsin is filled with fall color right now. My maple is gorgeous, along with other neighborhood trees…
WaterGirl
@Mousebumples: Sounds gorgeous!
Please submit photos too OTR.
Fall color makes me happy, and I bet I’m not alone in that. We can all use an antidote to the news.
WaterGirl
@Redshift: Yeah, I had a maybe similar thought. Let him see what it’s like to be “on the inside” so that when he pulls a bunch of dick moves, he will know what he’s missing, and maybe he’ll think twice.
RevRick
My wife’s sister and her family live in Maine and have been locked down. The schools in Freeport and South Portland were closed, so the sister and brother-in-law have been doing grandparents duty.
Chester County PA was on edge for days when a convict escaped the county jail. This will get increasingly stressful for the folks in Maine as long as the killer isn’t found.
CaseyL
That is a gorgeous bush. How long does it stay looking like that?
My townhouse complex is surrounded by conifers, so on the one hand we don’t get much/any Fall Foliage. OTOH, we also don’t get sad naked trees once all the leaves fall down. (We do have a few maples, including one right by my porch, which deprive us of dramatic color in autumn and still are sad/naked in winter. But they do drop leaves everywhere with great gusto, so there’s that!)
Just got off a webinar of State Employee Retirement Benefits, even though I’m still 5 years out. This is the first of two webinars today, and was a basic overview of all benefits retirees get. There will be a second one later this afternoon offering a deep-dive into health insurance coverage. But most of the questions were about retiree health insurance, which the hosts answered cheerfully enough, while reminding everyone that the later session is the best way to find out all that stuff.
Among the non-insurance questions were whether retired state employees still get state-subsidized ORCA cards (mass transit): we do not. I’m pretty sure that was a retiree benefit once upon a time, maybe 10 or 20 years ago. No longer. Alas.
sab
@WaterGirl: They change where we vote every election. We don’t agree where we are supposed to vote. How nuts is that? My parents voted in the same place for sixty years. I voted in the same place for twenty years.
Now, every vote it is Where?
I love Ohio but often it sucks.
schrodingers_cat
@sab: I have lots of those bushes in my yard too. Someone told me that they are not native.
New England fall, this is not too far from whrere I live.
zhena gogolia
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Haha, he “found out.” Classified information, I guess. Maybe he visited Mar-a-Lago and found out when he was there.
UncleEbeneezer
@schrodingers_cat: Beautiful. Just followed you :)
WaterGirl
@CaseyL: It stays pretty long, until there is a heavy rain or a lot of wind, both of which take the leaves down. So far, so good!
I’ll let you know how long it last.
We will have a hard freeze in a very small number of days. I should have cut my last hydrangeas this morning before the rain started. There are maybe a dozen or so bloom; when the rain stops I’ll cut them and put them in a vase.
I have the last of my cosmos in tiny vases.
edit: and i see that it needs water!
WaterGirl
Dan B
@WaterGirl: This year we had about one inch of rain from mid June to late September. Many Burning Bushes died.
H.E.Wolf
@WaterGirl:
That red color is so spectacular that my jaw actually dropped! Just like in novels. :-)
WaterGirl
@Dan B: Oh, that’s so sad. Even with watering, they didn’t make it?
WaterGirl
@H.E.Wolf: 💕
Brachiator
Everyone in the affected parts of Maine, please stay safe.
Steve in the ATL
@rekoob: I’m having dinner at the Palm tonight!
WaterGirl
@sab: Oh, I see! Crazy. Almost like they don’t want people to vote. Don’t want it to a ritual.
I was so sad the year they split the district down the middle of my street and I didn’t get to vote at my regular place anymore.
That’s when I started voting early. So sad.
WaterGirl
@Steve in the ATL: You do get around, don’t you!
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
The apt complex I live in had a halloween lunch, a bit they do for a few holidays every year. The patio they hold these on is next to my apartment and they bring decent food and music. LOUD music. I’ve been unavailable for a bit.
zhena gogolia
@Ruckus: I hope it was fun!
JPL
@Brachiator: My thought was obviously for the victims, but children also who might be robbed of Halloween activities. The second part sound frivilous, but it’s not meant to be.
Dan B
@schrodingers_cat: Euonymous alatus / Burning Bush are east Asian: northern China, Korea, and Japan.
brendancalling
@Jeffg166: depends where you are in Philly. I’ve really enjoyed what passes for autumn this year.
Steve in the ATL
@WaterGirl: they don’t call me Steve in the WTF for nothing!
eclare
@JPL:
Oh I didn’t even think of that. One more formerly safe childhood pleasure gone if he isn’t captured. And you know those kids have planned their costumes, etc.
Steve in the ATL
@brendancalling: I stayed at the Logan a couple of weeks ago. It was nice, until the rain.
Dan B
@WaterGirl: Mostly in parks but we are still in drought and the reservoirs are at 30% capacity so drizzly Seattle is close to rationing. We have ponds that get water from the roofs so we’re able to water but there were still some stressed plants.
Leto
@JPL: just another norm we’re sacrificing for Moloch.
Gin & Tonic
So the IAEA reports “powerful explosions” around ZNPP. I wonder what the source of those explosions could possibly be…
Leto
@brendancalling: if you can head out towards Reading and Lancaster (where we live), it’s a gorgeous spectrum of foliage.
brendancalling
@WaterGirl: metal playlist is ready for Saturday. I think y’all will appreciate it.
TriassicSands
@sab:
I live in Washington State where we have all mail-in voting. Recently, in what for me was the worst imaginably bad timing, I had to move from one town to another. I changed my address with the clerk, but in the last two days I have received three ballots. I’m going to assume they want me to vote three times. Of course, I won’t, but what if they send me three ballots next year? Oh, the temptation.
All mail-in voting, is, on balance, better. At first, I missed physically going to vote, but mail-in voting has some very real advantages. The ballots arrive about 18 days before the deadline — a visible reminder (for those who are paying attention or are very busy) that election day is upon us. With the ballot in hand, and almost three weeks, it helps encourage research into the lesser known candidates and offices, some of which are “non-partisan” despite the political nature of the decision-making. Drop-off is easy, because we don’t have a fascist governor or legislature trying to suppress voting. Or one can mail it in, no stamp required.
In case of age, infirmity, or a busy schedule, including a job that makes getting time off to vote difficult, mailing or ballot drop-off is easy. Even those who are swamped could put their ballot in a drop-off box at 3 AM (except on election day itself), if necessary.
Nothing is likely to get Americans to be better informed, but with all mail-in voting at least it is easier for the willing to cast their votes.
Since 1968, I have never failed to vote. One year, long before mail-in voting, after starting up El Capitan in Yosemite, I rappelled to the ground from 600 feet up, hitch-hiked to the Post Office, cast my absentee ballot, hitch-hiked back to El Cap, jumared back up the 600 feet, and finished the 34 pitch, ~3,000 foot climb. I vote.
mrmoshpotato
@rikyrah:
And those low rates.
eclare
@TriassicSands:
Holy shit! That is determination.
CarolPW
@TriassicSands: With all of the threats to poll workers I think mail in is going to have to be the way to go anywhere that actually wants people to vote. For states that don’t care, some may have initiative opportunities for people to tell the state that mail in is how they want to vote.
mrmoshpotato
@WaterGirl: Raining all day up north. Blah.
That’s quite the burning bush.
Uncle Cosmo
@WaterGirl: I trust that among some solid stuff, PUJOTUS feeds the new Shrieker of the Grouse a few fascist-fascinating crumbs of disinformation…so that when Cheetoh Benito immediately starts spouting off about them, Dark Brandon has an ironclad excuse to cut the Unterstrombinnedführer, um, SOTH right out of the loop for good.
HinTN
@WaterGirl: I can send you a picture of an amazing red maple we planted 20 years ago if you want yo add it to this thread.
Uncle Cosmo
…One step ahead of the shoeshine,
Two steps away from the county line,
Just tryin’ to keep my customers satisfied,
Satisfied…
(obscure Simon & Garfunkel track)
mrmoshpotato
@Steve in the ATL:
Does it not have a roof? 😁
HinTN
@rekoob: Targeting Shutdown are ya?
Dan B
@Uncle Cosmo: New SOTH is a big fan of Christian kook David Barton who has been contacted by Johnson about staff. Barton believes that the Constitution grants more rights to Christians because it copied much of the Bible. He wants to recriminalize homosexuality. Whee!
mrmoshpotato
@brendancalling: Oh boy. Gonna be some interesting penmanship on those postcards with all the headbanging going on.
Geminid
@Uncle Cosmo: CIA Director Burns to Speaker Johnson:
“Now I have to tell you some very, highly sensitive information. Whatever you do, DON’T TELL LAUREN BOEBERT!”
And then Burns lays the trap.
UncleEbeneezer
@brendancalling: Not quite metal, but my wife stumbled upon this great yawning cat image known as “Like Linus” from the Deftones that I was totally unaware of. It was used in promotions for their first single, Bored and first album, Adrenalize. Somehow despite being a pretty big fan I had never seen it before. Anyways it reminded me how amazing that 1995 album was and how I’d never heard anything like them before. Along with Tool whose first album, Undertow also completely blew my mind and made metal interesting to me again, at the time.
JPL
@Leto: I assume the elves will carry cause you know mall Santa will be next. What better way to satisfy a sick mind.
I wish people would wake up and realize that this is not the way to be exceptional.
Cameron
@Dan B: Isn’t Barton who writes (or used to write) made-up American history books?
NotMax
@WaterGirl
Learned an hour or so ago that aunt in Brazil (Mom’s sister) died peacefully at home. Not unexpected as she turned 101 in March.
I’ll thank folks for any condolences in advance. No need, please, to clutter up the thread with them.
JPL
@NotMax: 101 is not bad. Good genes and all.
Gin & Tonic
@NotMax: You come from some hardy stock.
Dan B
@Cameron: Same Barton. Nutcase. Greatly admired by Mike Johnson. Handmaids Tale is a do it yourself guidebook.
sdhays
@Uncle Cosmo: I love that song.
kalakal
That Euonymus is beautiful. What a cheering sight
eclare
@NotMax:
RIP. Peacefully at home at 101 sounds good.
EarthWindFire
@rekoob: I’m game if not right after Election Day. We’re thinking of retiring to coastal Delaware and plan to visit that weekend to see what it’s like off season.
Glidwrith
@WaterGirl: Have you seen any comments by ruemara lately? She seems to have dropped off the radar.
sab
@WaterGirl: We don’t vote in “our church.” We vote wherever the Board of Elections tell us, which is usually a church.They have parking and a sense of civic responsibility. The BoE switches us around a lot (voter suppression? ) This year we ar confused again. Husband thinks there, I think here, we’ll find out trying to vote.
sab
@kalakal: finally, a speller.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
Not to be a Debby Downer about Fall color (and that burning bush WG posted is gorgeous!), but it all reminds me of death since that’s what causes it. The leaves are dying, and the lack of chlorophyll is what allows the other colors in the leaf to show. Give me a vibrant green anytime. Spring is my favorite, with the light green (almost neon) new growth at the ends of the fir trees.
kalakal
@Cameron: That’s the chap, had books recalled due to “innacuracies”
https://www.theguardian.com/books/us-news-blog/2012/aug/13/book-thomas-jefferson-complaints-inaccuracies
Or from a more scholarly perspective
https://wthrockmorton.com/2012/08/09/thomas-nelson-pulls-david-bartons-the-jefferson-lies/
He’s got form for calling himself “Doctor”
https://wthrockmorton.com/2016/10/10/life-christian-university-confirms-david-bartons-earned-doctorate/
A shining wit* of the Wingnut Welfare brigade
* Spoonerism
🐾BillinGlendaleCA
@UncleEbeneezer: I took two trips up to the Eastern Sierra this year. I was up at Bishop Creek the week before you and it was about a week pre-peak, still nice. I went up to Big Pine Creek last Friday, at peak at the trailhead, but a few days past peak once I climbed above the First Falls. I ended up hiking all the way to Third Lake.
sab
Test question: who knows what “there is a light at the end of the frog” means? That has changed my life. My husband says ” who even knows what it means?”
Somedays I wonder why I am married. Today has been one of those days.
Timill
@sab: It means you are acquainted with Ursula Vernon’s* Hugo acceptance speech.
*aka T Kingfisher
Gvg
@A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan): Actually, the trees are preparing to sleep and withdrawing the chlorophyll and other nutrients into the permanent structures (stems and trunk) leaving behind the temporary stuff they can’t reuse. The vivid colors were always there, but covered up by the green solar energy converting chlorophyll. The leaves fall, to become soil and be reused by the roots. It’s just a very slow sleep wake cycle to a different than us creature.
That said, I grew up in Florida and hate winter. Bare trees to not look good, snow looks like mars after I endure cold awhile and fall color should be the orange tree crop getting ripe.
A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)
@Gvg: Thank you! What a nice perspective. So it is just death for the temporary stuff and the tree is just going to sleep. And yes, I struggle with truly realizing trees (generally) work on a much longer life cycle.
ETA: Being more animal-oriented, but working to become a gardener, I have previously struggled with pruning – what, cut off its arms!?! Plants are different than animals (but wonderful)! My husband and I recently went to a native plant nursery and had the best time. Pollinators and hummingbirds will hopefully be happier next year.
Chris T.
Probably dead thread by now, but I looked it up: “Burning bush” plant is Euonymus alatus (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus), which is considered an invasive species so one should be careful with it.