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99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall

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99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer.  Take one down, and pass it around, 98 bottles of beer on the wall.

99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall

h/t Manyakitty

I don’t know if there’s any chance that Santos will be expelled, but I would love to see it.

Also, I can’t figure out why 5 or 10 of the 28 Republicans in Biden districts haven’t initiated a motion to vacate.  The circus of a couple of weeks ago made them look better than the current Pastor of the House.

Totally open thread, in case that’s not obvious!

Update: Gosh, as soon as I get the post up, the vote is already over.  Even 25 Dems voted against expelling Santos.

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  5. 5.

    WaterGirl

    Update up top.  With this result, we might just need that drinking game.

    I hope we do  better on the vote related to the military promotions… that I hope will happen very soon.

  11. 11.

    Another Scott

    Aaron Fritschner
    @Fritschner
    7h

    Replying to @Fritschner @RobertGarcia
    NY Republicans announced they would force a floor vote on expelling Santos; just ahead of that vote Ethics issued a statement that seems calculated to engineer its failure, promising a result “by November 17” – which HAPPENS to be the date the CR expires.

    [ x.com/mkraju/status/17194657… ]

    Manu Raju
    @mkraju
    Oct 31

    House Ethics announces it will move on its “next course of action in this matter on or before November 17” in the George Santos probe.

    Since Ethics isn’t done, it could be tough to win enough Republicans to vote to expel Santos tomorrrow when resolution hits floor.
    Nov 1, 2023 · 5:27 PM UTC

    Mid-November is going to be an exciting time in DC.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  12. 12.

    MattF

    On the other hand, we keep a source of comic relief, which the House needs badly. And, perhaps… an all-star volleyball champion? Maybe, but… maybe not. For a while.

  13. 13.

    Geminid

    There was interesting news out of St. Louis two days ago. City Prosecutor Wesley Bell dropped out of the Missouri Democratic Senate primary and announced he would instead challenge 1st CD Representative Cori Bush.

    I guess that will take some pressure off of Senate candidate Lucas Kunce. It could be a tough race for Ms. Bush, though.

  15. 15.

    Craig

    On my mind? Scheduling screwup gives me a paid Friday off, plus same on Monday. I get to go see my homegirl’s documentary Richland playing in the usually private Premiere Theater at ILM in The Presidio as part of the SF Docfest. One of the best places in the world to see a movie. Psyched.

  16. 16.

    Old School

    While the charges don’t look good, I don’t have an issue with waiting for a conviction before expulsion.

  17. 17.

    Marleedog

    The new Speaker, or Preacher if you like, in referring the matter to the Ethics Committee made it difficult to vote for expulsion without even  a fig leaf of due process.  Even some Democrats went along.

    Ethics Committee will release some kind of report in about 3 weeks or so. Making every attempt to maintain their fragile majority,  they might try to whitewash the whole affair, but Santos faces serious allegations and I would not be surprised to see a future motion for expulsion to succeed if he does not resign (as he should, but probably will not).

  18. 18.

    MattF

    @Marleedog: He’ll never resign. He might try to disappear— in which case we’ll get to see him flushed out of a broom closet in some bus terminal.

  20. 20.

    lowtechcyclist

    @WaterGirl: ​

    Calendar days. When I log off work on December 15th, that will be the last time.

    ETA: Who knows how many work days. Depends on what happens between now and November 19th.  (Technically the 17th, but I’m not working on Saturday and Sunday 11/18-19 any which way.)

  21. 21.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    Jack E. Smith via WaterGirl @ Top:

    He’s facing 23 felony charges.
    His campaign manager pled guilty to conspiring with him.
    He pled guilty to stealing checks in Brazil.

    They’re not even sure of his real name.

    Yet, the House of Representatives couldn’t muster enough respect for their chamber to expel George Santos.

    If they kick Santos out over 23 charges, what would that say about Donald “93 Charges” Trump?

    They can’t kick out Santos and not look like hypocrites for supporting Trump. And they were, surprisingly, smart enough to figure that out.

    Even 25 Dems voted against expelling Santos.

    Well, that was cynical. Obviously, they’re hoping to keep Santos there as a millstone around the House GOP’s neck. I hope it doesn’t come back to bite us.

  22. 22.

    Boris Rasputin (the evil twin)

    I refuse to believe George Santos exists. So many lies, so little substance – how can he be a real person?

  25. 25.

    mvr

    @WaterGirl: According to the Hill:

    • Rep. Collin Allred (Texas)
    • Rep. Jake Auchincloss (Mass.)
    • Rep. Ed Case (Hawaii)
    • Rep. Emmanuel Cleaver (Mo.)
    • Rep. Henry Cuellar (Texas)
    • Rep. Sharice Davids (Kan.)
    • Rep. Chris Deluzio (Penn.)
    • Rep. Lizzie Fletcher (Texas)
    • Rep. Jared Golden (Maine)
    • Rep. Jim Himes (Conn.)
    • Rep. Steven Horsford (Nev.)
    • Rep. Jeff Jackson (N.C.)
    • Rep. Hank Johnson (Ga.)
    • Rep. Rick Larsen (Wash.)
    • Rep. Susie Lee (Nev.)
    • Rep. Zoe Lofgren (Calif.)
    • Rep. Seth Magaziner (R.I.)
    • Rep. Morgan McGarvey (Ky.)
    • Rep. Rob Menendez (N.J.)
    • Rep. Gwen Moore (Wis.)
    • Rep. Marie Perez (Wash.)
    • Rep. Katie Porter (Calif.)
    • Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.)
    • Rep. Dutch Ruppersberger (Md.)
    • Rep. Brad Schneider (Ill.)
    • Rep. Kim Schrier (Wash.)
    • Rep. Bobby Scott (Va.)
    • Rep. Elissa Slotkin (Mich.)
    • Rep. Mark Takano (Calif.)
    • Rep. Rashida Tlaib (Mich.)
    • Rep. Nikema Williams (Ga.)
  26. 26.

    Lyrebird

    @Geminid: Thanks Geminid!

    Interesting indeed.

     

    ETA: regarding the vote, I wonder if some of those voting No want to wait for the ethics report.

  27. 27.

    mvr

    @mvr: Some of these folks I generally admire – Raskin & Davids in particular. And some are in swingish seats.

    Apparently 2/3 were needed so even adding the Ds would only have gotten it to 210 to expell vs 182 not to. Not enough.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    He’s facing 23 felony charges.

    His campaign manager pled guilty to conspiring with him.

    He pled guilty to stealing checks in Brazil.

    Wow. Wow. Wow.

    They’re not even sure of his real name.

    And I will raise myself a Jesus Fucking Himself!

     

    Both Sides Don’t! (h/t driftglass and bluegal)

  30. 30.

    mvr

    @WaterGirl: Amended my comment above to note that it still would not have reached 2/3. So if one is in a close seat and you think it could hurt your re-election, why bother.  And if you think you might be up for a similar vote for either good or bad reasons, why set the precedent of doing it before the ethics committee acts?

  31. 31.

    Timill

    @WaterGirl: There may be procedural reasons for some: in Robert’s, you can’t bring up a motion more than once in a session. But, if you voted with the winning side, you can move to reconsider the decision, thus bringing it back to the floor. I presume House rules have something similar.

  32. 32.

    Jackie

    @WaterGirl: Waiting for the Ethics Committee report? Because what goes around, comes around — eventually.

    I’m guessing that – based on some of the names listed.

  34. 34.

    Betty

    @mvr: Raskin explained his vote. He said it would set a bad precedent and was without due process. I assume he was referring to the Ethics Committee report which isn’t out.

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    I had left my Christmas cactuses out during our 20-degree overnight freeze.  Oops.  I knew it was going to freeze, but I hadn’t planned on it being that cold.

    Brought them in on Tuesday before the second 20-degree night in a row.  The leaves are still pretty cold tonight, but I think they are going to be okay.

    Whew!  I have 9 of them, so it was going to really suck if I lost them all.

  38. 38.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    With all the turmoil in the Middle East, now was not the right time to expel a Jew-ish congressman like Santos

  40. 40.

    Carlo Graziani

    One bottle of beer on the wall!
    One bottle of beer!
    Take one down, pass it around,
    Zero bottles of beer on the wall!

    Zero bottles of beer on the wall!
    Zero bottles of beer!
    Take one down, pass it around,
    Negative-one bottles of beer on the wall!

    Negative-one bottles of…HEY! OW! [Number theorist gets whanged upside the head with a missing beer bottle at this point.]

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    @WaterGirl:

    I had left my Christmas cactuses out during our 20-degree overnight freeze.

    These Christmas cactuses? Are they Christmas gifts for friends or enemies?

  42. 42.

    Manyakitty

    @WaterGirl: mine turned to mush and died this year, inside. I moved my ‘experiment’ lemon trees and a few other items outside for summer, we got snow last night and the last two out there survived. I forced myself outside today and brought them in. Can’t turn down a reprieve like that.

  44. 44.

    frosty

    Since it’s an Open Thread (and a dead one) I’ve got a complaint against my County Board of Elections. My son sent his absentee ballot request in on 10/16. THEY STILL HAVEN’T MAILED HIS BALLOT TO HIM!!!!!

    What the fuck is going on with them?

  45. 45.

    Manyakitty

    @frosty: call and check the rules. When I worked the polls in Ohio, you could cancel an unreturned absentee ballot request at the board of elections and early vote. I don’t remember the rules for election day, though.

  47. 47.

    steve g

    My sister and my her two kids sang 80 bottles of beer on the wall for my father when he turned 80. And they brought 80 bottles of Guiness to put on the mantle and the tables and anywhere else they could find to put one. Good laugh, and good beer!

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    @mrmoshpotato: No, they are mine.  All mine!  :-)

    I have had them for years.  Over a decade.  Since I lost the previous batch to a big freeze the year the tree hit my house and I was too distracted to bring them inside in time.  That was 2013.

    edit: okay, that’s exactly a decade.

  55. 55.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @Carlo Graziani: Negative-one bottles of…HEY! OW! [Number theorist gets whanged upside the head with a missing beer bottle at this point.]

    From one of my favorite sources, The Alice and Bob After Dinner Speech. Forgive me if you’ve heard this one before…

    There is a story about a student of information theory on his first day at college. He had entered a strange, bizarre world. The only sounds were the occasional calling out of a number by one of the professors, followed by laughter. One professor would say ’52’, there would be a short pause then peals of laughter. Someone else says ‘713’, same thing, everyone falls down laughing.

    “What’s going on here?” he asked his tutor.

    “We’re telling jokes,” said his tutor.

    “Telling jokes?”

    “Yes, you see, we’ve all worked here so long we know each other’s jokes. There are a thousand of them. So, being information theorists we applied data compression. We just assigned them all numbers, 0 through 999. It saves a lot of time and effort. Would you like to try? Just say any number 0 to 999…”

    He wasn’t fully convinced. But he tried. Very quietly he whispered “477”.

    Hardly a murmur.

    He looked at his tutor. “What’s wrong?” he said. “Try again,” says the tutor.

    So he does. “318” – same again, not a thing, hardly a murmur.

    “Something’s wrong,” he says.

    “Well,” says the tutor, “it’s like this – it’s not so much the joke as the way you tell it!”

    There is a curious sequel to this story. This student eventually succeeded by accident in the most dramatic and unexpected way. He called out a number outside the range 0 to 999. “Minus 105,” he said.

    At first there was stunned amazement, then first one professor laughed, then another then another, till they were all rolling about holding their sides.

    None of them had heard that one before.

  56. 56.

    frosty

    @WaterGirl: ​Thanks, I called them on Monday and got a live person without having to go through a voicemail menu. Miracle! The worker said mailing is done by a third party and the Board doesn’t control it. I’ll call again and ask what is going on and why it hasn’t been mailed. I of course suspect conspiracy and vote suppression, right?

    I think my son will have to take off and come here on Tuesday, which is his busiest class day. At least he’s only an hour away and not in Pittsburgh like my other son.

  62. 62.

    wjca

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: With all the turmoil in the Middle East, now was not the right time to expel a Jew-ish congressman like Santos.

    Also not the right time to expel a Muslim congressman like Santos.  (It seems impossible that he hasn’t claimed to be Muslim, or perhaps Arab, at some point.  After all, he contains multitudes.)

  63. 63.

    columbusqueen

    Some of the Dem no votes may have been based on the belief that keeping Santos in the House to continue embarrassing the rest of the New York delegation improves the odds of winning seats back next year.

  64. 64.

    Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]

    Rep Ed. Case… FROM HAWAII!!!  WTF?  somebody is tired of being a house member? that makes literally NO sense over here.   People are still sore and angry from Tulsi Gabbard.

  65. 65.

    Shalimar

    @columbusqueen: Even if that is their real reason, the reason you give in press releases and interviews is waiting for due process.  Either the Ethics Committee report or a criminal conviction depending on how long you want to let the millstone hang.

  66. 66.

    owlbrick

    Ninety nine cars on the assembly line

    Ninety nine cars on the line

    You take one down , you put one up

    Ninety nine cars on the assembly line….

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    @frosty: Hand off something as critical ballot mailing to a third-party group –whose political leanings they know nothing about – s a mistake of the highest order.

    I hope you reminded them of that, because that’s bullshit.

  68. 68.

    Tarragon

    @Carlo Graziani:
    SW tester walks into a bar:

    • orders a beer
    • orders 3 beers
    • orders 1,000,000,000 beers
    • orders 3.14 beers
    • orders 0 beers
    • orders -1 beers
    • orders a bear
    • orders $5
    • orders a beer, pays, and leaves before getting it
    • orders a beer, leaves without paying

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