↓↓↓ Celebrating stochastic terrorism. https://t.co/TVrShpHJgA
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) November 6, 2023
Will Carless, at USAToday — “When Libs of TikTok tweets, threats increasingly follow”:
Brookings, South Dakota. A university LGBTQ+ group is hit with a flood of hate mail, culminating in a bomb threat that terrifies students.
San Lorenzo, California. A drag queen story hour is one of several Pride events across the country stormed by suspected members of the extremist street gang the Proud Boys. The men shout homophobic slurs and threats, and a performer hides in a back room, waiting for police to arrive.
Philadelphia. Boston. Pittsburgh. Washington, D.C. Akron, Ohio. Threats hit hospitals and medical clinics, and some temporarily evacuate their patients while law enforcement assesses the danger.
Then comes summer and fall 2023, at least two dozen public schools and libraries start receiving bomb threats. In California, Colorado, Oklahoma and Wisconsin, they cancel classes and evacuate students.
These cases, and many more, share a common link: The victim of each threat had also been targeted, in the days before, by the enormously popular conservative social media channel Libs of TikTok.
In almost every case, the perpetrator of the threat is unknown, and Chaya Raichik, the far-right influencer who runs Libs of TikTok, says she opposes violence, and that because there have been almost no arrests, there’s no proof the threats come from her followers.
But whoever is making the threats, the posts show a clear pattern. USA TODAY has confirmed dozens of bomb threats, death threats and other harassment after Libs of TikTok’s posts since February 2022, based on exclusive new research from the progressive analysis group Media Matters for America.
Numerous news reports have covered individual threats, noting the target had also been mentioned by Libs of TikTok. But the new analysis of years of tweets, including archives of many Raichik has since deleted, shows the pattern is more extensive and pervasive than has been previously known – and that threats, specifically against schools, have ratcheted up significantly in the past two months…
The @LibsofTikTok Twitter handle was created in April 2021 by Raichik, a former Brooklyn real estate agent who grew up in Los Angeles.
Raichik created the account to “raise awareness about the situation in America,” she told USA TODAY. “There’s a clear pattern of the sexualization of children going on in public schools, and I think that’s a problem,” she said. “I think it’s super harmful, and I want to call it out, and raise awareness to it.”
The account has become a creator of, and a force multiplier for, right-wing outrage, particularly on LGBTQ+ issues. On X it has been amplified by the platform’s owner Elon Musk, and a hive of conservative politicians, media personalities and far-right online influencers, including former Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson and podcaster Joe Rogan…
Like most social media influencers, Raichik doesn’t produce all the content she tweets about. Libs of TikTok regularly shares videos and posts created by other far-right accounts, often with inaccuracies, misinformation and thinly veiled hatred mixed in.
But while those other accounts may have a smaller reach, once Libs of TikTok chooses a target, the viral response can quickly spin out of control…
In recent months, Raichik, who calls herself a journalist, has begun labeling certain posts as “Scoops” – indicating they contain original reporting that nobody else has published, including the targets of her posts.
She told USA TODAY she is increasingly filing requests under public records law, with the hope of revealing previously unknown information. That’s a shift away from her original brand – the idea that she just posts videos the “libs,” themselves, already made.
Whatever her intention, Raichik has clearly spent recent months focused on one target: public schools…
Much more disheartening detail at the link.
The pattern is so consistent that we should hesitate to label it as merely stochastic terrorism. It's her brand, frankly, and should be investigated like there's more to it than just rabid fans and radicalized facebook boomers. https://t.co/JhNKwEZiD6
— zeddy (@Zeddary) November 2, 2023
Personal opinion: Raichik started her social-media campaign purely as a way to garner more attention… but now that she’s succeeded so ‘brilliantly’, her burgeoning reach is being supported by some entity with much deeper pockets. The Leonard Leo Foundation? Tucker Carlson’s branch of ‘alternative news’ media? Malign foreign entities? (or some combination of all three?)
“The biggest fiend that ever hit the big time —
And all I had to do was, act naturally!”
Not only celebrating causing bomb and death threats but also a nice pat on the back from the owner of this site. Really dark shit, here. pic.twitter.com/NBkwTnxUCv
— Steve Mullis (@stevemullis) November 6, 2023
Dog Dawg Damn
There’s a special place in hell for people who weaponize social media. Riling up mobs against perfect strangers who will cancel them, ruin their employment prospects, threaten to kill them, swat them, the list goes on and on. I’m amazed anyone in this climate forgoes anonymity online, and I do think we could have stronger laws against this behavior.
SFAW
She is one sick fuck.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
As soon as someone ends up dead or in the hospital after one of her hate campaigns, which is will happen sooner rather than later, her response will be ‘Hoocouldvenode’ and ‘I didn’t do it’. This is why I feel like we really need more resources on investigations and prosecutions of these threats. That is something I think Biden can and should be directing federal resources toward.
StringOnAStick
Definitely a horrible, hate filled person.
Question: if you are using a Kindle, where is the link to the pie filter?
kindness
Somehow Chaya Raichik seems to think none of her actions will come back on her. I mean, I know progressives as a whole don’t do vengence like right wing haters do, but come on now. At some point…
Matt McIrvin
@kindness: Will they?
rikyrah
She is a domestic terrorist.
WaterGirl
@StringOnAStick:
Can you find this part of the thread on your Kindle?
If you can see that, click on the little cherry pie (or cherry tart, if that’s how you think of it) that is just above the word “Filter”.
lowtechcyclist
I don’t know if there’s anything like a way to hold her legally responsible, but without a doubt she’s morally responsible. She knows what actions on her part result in bomb threats and death threats, and she keeps on doing those things. She’s a menace, and it’s a shame that there’s apparently no way to hold her responsible.
Honus
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: also, don’t forget “thoughts and prayers”
Tony Jay
So it’s claiming credit for directing death-threats at American citizens? As in, not winking at it, but actually pointing at the claim and saying quite specifically “I did that”?
And this is not something that they can be dragged into court and sued naked for?
Alison Rose
Not only is she a terrorist and a sick pathetic fame-hungry little twat, but that sad frumpy lightwash denim skirt is a fucking felony.
matt
She’s no better than Hamas. Grinning terrorist.
Betty Cracker
When Raichik first got outed as the horrid bigot behind the Libs of TikTok account, Ron DeSantis offered her asylum in the Florida governor’s mansion. She didn’t need it because the folks Raichik shits on all day are mostly nonviolent, unarmed people. It’s possible one day she’ll run afoul of someone who’ll threaten her safety, but so far, Raichik is enjoying yet another built-in advantage right-wingers have over their opponents — fewer armed nutcases on our side.
Old Man Shadow
They hate you and want to kill you.
And by “You”, I mean anyone who is not a white, Christian, CIS, hetero male fascist.
“But they couldn’t possibly-”
They hate you and want to kill you. Listen to them.
“But I haven’t-”
They hate you and want to kill you. They really can’t be more clear about it.
“But this is America…”
And they see you as an impurity in their vision of America as a gated community for white, Christian, CIS, hetero, male fascists and their property. They hate you and want to kill you.
trollhattan
@Alison Rose:
Heh. :-)
“Hey, 1975 called and wants its garment back.”
Chief Oshkosh
@Tony Jay: It seems like aiding and abetting a crime, to me. A lot of bomb threats are illegal. They may be difficult to investigate and prosecute, but they are illegal. It may be that we get lucky and have one investigated and prosecuted, with the author of the threat being willing to cut a deal in a parallel prosecution of Raichik for aiding and abetting the primary crime.
Of course, I’m not a lawyer, so…
Marmot
She’s the right-wing Jean-Paul Marat.
SenyorDave
I firmly believe in Karma, someday this Chaya Raichik (I refuse to call her a person, I reserve that for members of the human race) will be pushing a boulder up a hill for all eternity..
Urza
I don’t understand how there aren’t laws against something like this. I get free speech but intentionally causing chaos has to have some kind of legal repercussion.
JaySinWA
@WaterGirl: I was looking on my laptop for “pie” or “pie filter” because I forgot where it was. No go because of the mix of graphic and text omitting the “pie”. The graphic should have alt-text, but I don’t know if that would help in my search unless it included “pie filter” as part of the alt-text. Maybe we could have the label include the word “pie”, since “pie filter” is how people refer to it.
Emojis gone wild.
Raoul Paste
So damn shocking
Yet I’m surprised that an untraceable bomb threat is possible in this day and age. NSA, where TF are you?
Edit: And WTF is wrong with Elon Musk?
Steeplejack
@JaySinWA:
A search for “filter” brings it up.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Urza:
She’s not the one making the bomb threats. She’s just inspiring the ones doing the threats based on her dishonest, homophobic attacks. What she’s doing isn’t criminal, but should open her up to lawsuits because its costing the police and the schools money. The right wing wouldn’t hesitate to sue the bejeesus out of someone if they have even half an opportunity. I don’t know why more of these people aren’t sued to oblivion. Also, I want every fan of hers making bomb threats exposed, arrested, prosecuted, and paraded in front of their communities as the bad actors they are. I want them crying on the TV about how they wished they had never listened to her. Then I want reporters sticking microphones in her face about how she’s ruining lives and her stammering her denials.
Anotherlurker
It is astounding to me that a member of a religious minority that has suffered unspeakable persecution delights in spreading intolerance and hatred to other persecuted people. I know that this shouldn’t surprise me, but it does.
trollhattan
@Raoul Paste: Elon is at a minimum, sociopathic and a narcissist. If he weren’t filthy rich he would be shunned by nearly everyone.
Sound familiar?
scav
Her basic psychology seems exactly that of many school & other mass shooters: a strong desire for personal fame combined with a sense of being personally thwarted. They have to keep upping the body count to get into the news. She just outsources running up the actual bodycount.
JaySinWA
@Betty Cracker: Looking back through Wikipedia, she claimed to have about a dozen death threats after she was exposed as the author of Libs. I don’t know if that was true or if it continues. Of course DeSantis was grandstanding with his offer. The right was horrified that there could be consequences for someones actions.
The reporter who outed her had threats to her family and friends after the article, and the Libs targets are regularly threatened, but at that time they claimed no part in rousing the rabble. But now she seems to be righteously claiming she called the “code red” while still talking in code (Emoji bombs).
Mai Naem mobile
Has who gave Leonard Leo the $2 billion ever been disclosed?
Sister Golden Bear
@Old Man Shadow: The irony is that Raichik has said she’s an Orthodox Jew. But she apparently believes none the leopards will ever eat her face.
@Alison Rose: Frum might explain the frumpiness.
FWIW, while I don’t know the dynamics within the Orthodox community, Elad Nehorai (who’s formerly Orthodox) notes that Orthodox leaders could censure her, which he claims with would have a significant impact. But they haven’t. Draw your own conclusions. (Sorry, I can’t find the original Tweet about this.)
Matt McIrvin
@Urza: Making laws against incitement too broad has the risk of catching people in the net who are just expressing vehement political opinions, and there have been all sorts of abuses of that in the past (the Palmer Raids, etc.) So the law tends to lean over toward being very narrow and specific about what’s illegal incitement. But that means a lot of nudge-nudge-wink-wink stuff is possible.
JaySinWA
@Steeplejack: Yes it does, but everyone talks about pie or pieing so I looked for that as part of the search. I finally found it by jumping to comments (the comment link doesn’t show the filter) and scrolling up a bit. You can search ’till you are blue in the face for “pie filter” and find people talking about it, or Cleek’s version, but not the actual filter.
It should be easier to find
ETA I see this isn’t showing as an open thread. Sorry.
Kent
Speaking of public schools. This happened today in my first period biology class (freshman and sophomores)
I had a girl in the back of the room pass out then start vomiting. She was really out of it. Called the health room and they were here in 30 seconds with the security officer and a wheelchair to wheel her out. Turns out she had taken some drug laced with Fentanyl and was ODing. The security officers all carry Naran on their belts in this school but I don’t think they used it since she was conscious when they took her out.
She was a sweet quiet girl who I would not have ever guessed to be a druggie. But the other kids in class said, yeah, pretty much. So goes to show what kids now that teachers don’t. I have no idea what sort of trauma she is trying to numb by taking drugs at 8 am on a school day.
Sigh…
PS, this school is a pretty generic suburban school that covers a middle class and working class part of Vancouver WA. Student population is about 30% Hispanic, 10% Asian, 5% Black and the rest White. The girl in question was a White girl.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@JaySinWA:
It probably is true. We do have those folks on our side too. I still want anyone making threats arrested.
Matt McIrvin
@Kent: Poor kid.
Sister Golden Bear
@Urza: For better or worse, courts have long held the threats are protected by the First Amendment. Essentially the difference between “Libs should be shot” vs. “I’m going to shot you, lib.” So Raichik’s stochastic terrorism stays within within what’s legal.
Probably also hard to file a civil suit because others do the dirty work. At best it might on the grounds of regardless disregard.
robmassing
Because death threats are so cool, I can only assume that Raichik would be thrilled if they were directed at her.
Betty Cracker
@Kent: Poor thing. I hope she recovers fully and gets the help she needs.
Sister Golden Bear
Thank you for spotlighting this Anne. Raichik is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the threats of violence trans people are facing now.
FWIW, in the UK TERFs, who now have the support of the government, are now openly talking about the need to eliminate trans people. Not just from public life, but eliminate entirely. They’re a foreshadowing of what will happen here if the Christofascists take power
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
She’s already done that after a children’s hospital got repeated bomb threads.
trollhattan
@Kent: Horrifying. I’m glad the girl is out of the woods and here’s hoping she gets much needed help, she and the family. They have a very tough journey ahead.
My consistent, insistent message to fellow parents I know is you cannot run away from drugs and social trauma by heading to the ‘burbs, or tony private schools. They universally have the best access to curated drugs of any and all kinds. They have access to sophisticated social networks, nice houses emptied of adults away on trips, plentiful cars, the works.
Parents don’t like hearing this because they like to believe throwing money fending off potential trouble can work, not that they’re going from frying pan to bespoke fire.
gwangung
@rikyrah: No, she’s a gangster and extortionist. Nothing more than a common criminal.
JaySinWA
Yes, and as others have noted the true threats doctrine makes that harder. But death threats need to be taken seriously.
After gamergate, internet swarming and swatting has become more common and I’m not sure our legal understanding of “true threats” has kept up with reality.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@JaySinWA: It hasn’t kept up. Calling in a bomb threat to a school is illegal in most places, regardless of whether you actually intend to follow through. These are basically hate crimes and they should be classified as such. And I’ll add, that’s why the right has such a problem with the concept of hate crimes. They make terror campaigns illegal.
Bill Arnold
@Matt McIrvin:
Big country. 335 million, 250+ million adults.
Matt McIrvin
@Sister Golden Bear: Trump has also always been really good at creeping just up to the line of illegal threats or incitement without going over. He has the mafioso’s instinct for talking indirectly about the problems he wants someone to solve.
lurker
@Kent: hope your student feels better and gets long term help.
I would be careful about the assumption she is a druggie … you know the students you are talking to, but my sense is that every school has rumors about people that exaggerate who they are or what is going on. Obviously something happened, but whether this is someone with a long-term problem or someone new to the scene, possibly even duped into something, that is always hard to tell.
Bill Arnold
@Sister Golden Bear:
Lashon hara, hotzaat shem ra, hotzaat shem ra
Also Lashon hara (or loshon horo, or loshon hora) (Hebrew: לשון הרע; “evil tongue”) is the halakhic term for speech about a person or persons that is negative or harmful to them, even though it is true
lurker
Regarding our actual topic, this behavior seems like something that could be reckless disregard for the welfare of others, but that would be an impressively difficult suit to prosecute, either for civil damages or for criminal liability. How to stop this kind of thing while allowing for the occasional outburst from someone who would otherwise know better is the challenge in this area of law, and the reach of social media definitely makes the situation much harder to deal with relative to what our legal system handles well.
Betty Cracker
@JaySinWA: I don’t trust her word but can easily believe Raichik received some death threats. Heck, I’ve received a few threats over the years for having the temerity to be an opinionated woman online. But I doubt very much Raichik was in fear for her life.
The DeSantis asylum offer was a political stunt. It didn’t pay off — his team has been begging Raichik to endorse him but she’s remained neutral.
different-church-lady
Sociopaths gotta sociopath.
gene108
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony:
One of the biggest and most underreported changes to our politics over the last 20-30 years is how common and ubiquitous right-wing threats have become to anyone who does anything that they don’t like.
We hear about someone getting threats, maybe selling their home, and so on but it seems to be just in passing like this is supposed to be normal.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@lurker:
Our side tends to not sue if we think we won’t win. They will sue even if they know they will lose because it will have a chilling effect. Because the person being sued then has to take time and resources away from being a problem to deal with the law suit. They will go shopping for people who have standing and pay for all the legal costs. We could learn from that.
Betty Cracker
I don’t think our legal system can address a problem like Raichik for reasons lots of folks here have pointed out. The appropriate remedy would be a good old-fashioned shunning — for ordinary people to find Raichik’s output horrifying and recoil from people who share her content, for platforms to refuse to host her because advertisers would flee, etc. I don’t see that happening anytime soon, given our current environment. Maybe someday we’ll evolve enough as a society that anti-queer content will be generally considered repugnant, and people like Raichik will crawl back under their rocks.
Sister Golden Bear
@Kent: That poor girl. I hope she’s OK.
Bill Arnold
@Raoul Paste:
The NSA does not operate domestically (allegedly, and there would be a heap of trouble if any evidence that they did showed up), and even if they did, it is possible to send messages anonymously in ways that are NSA-resistant, at least with low-volume.
However, many (probably most) of those who act on such stochastic terrorism/incitement are chucklefucks, and use regular, easily traceable methods of communication.
Spanky
@Bill Arnold: True. The responsible agency is the FBI, and we’ve seen that they can be, uh, problematic.
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Betty Cracker: I think our legal system is one tool that can be used to harrass people like Raichik to the point that they no longer feel like what they are doing is profitable or worth the effort.
Bill Arnold
@Matt McIrvin:
With large numbers, such as the audience of Libs of Tiktok, it’s effectively causal terrorist acts, and the law should treat them as such.
rikyrah
@Kent:
I hope that she gets the help that she needs :(
Suzanne
@Betty Cracker:
And on that day, I will offer her thoughts and prayers.
Omnes Omnibus
@Matt McIrvin: There are a good number of people who comment here who could easily run afoul of over broad threat laws. There are people who take offense at “DIAF” and other similar comments. We don’t want someone having to defend themself in court because they lost their temper at a troll. Writing a law that nails Raichik and not Cranky Commenter is virtually impossible.
Martin
Any SoCal people – one of the Tustin hangars burned down this morning. No reporting yet on the cause, but it was the north hangar that had partially collapsed in a storm some years back.
These are among the largest wooden structures in the world and they’ve been struggling to find a good way to repurpose them without tearing them down. The Navy still owns them, but they receive minimal maintenance.
John S.
@Kent:
My wife teaches middle school up here in Auburn, WA. We moved here from South Florida. I never thought that I would see/hear so many kids and families impacted by drugs — especially fentanyl. It’s a huge problem here.
Thor Heyerdahl
Since we often see stories of arrests and horrific crimes against children by those same people who so strongly protest children’s sexuality…one can wonder if there’s a morgue’s worth of skeletons in Raichik’s proverbial closet.
Martin
Kiwi Farms was a similar group that operated without much problem for AGES until one target of theirs stood up, organized a campaign against the companies that provided their infrastructure, and got them off the internet. Law enforcement wasn’t just useless, they were instruments of the harassers – never holding the harassers accountable for using them that way.
Libs of TikTok will be even harder to unseat since they operate on top of existing social media instead of thorough their own infrastructure.
Kent
In this case it seems true. Parents are now involved, school security is now involved with an enforcement and discipline case, police are involved trying to track down the source and dealers, etc. The whole thing has blown up.
Kent
This is actually true. I’m a parent of 3 girls. There is indeed a clear pattern of sexualization of children in our society. But it isn’t the LGBT kids or schools doing it. It is Disney, Hollywood, H&M, Forever21, Aeropostale, Instagram, TikTok, etc. Just like it has always been.
Sexualization of kids is perfectly fine to all these right-wing fundies. Hell, they do it themselves. They just have a violent homophobic conniption when it isn’t the straight white mainstream sexualization of which they approve.
Matt McIrvin
@Omnes Omnibus: Indeed. The current legal standard seems to be that incitement has to be really specific and imminent. Just saying “someone oughta shoot that guy” isn’t enough to get arrested.
Matt McIrvin
@Kent: Yeah, the fundamental move here is to characterize any child-targeted advocacy of LGBT tolerance as “sexualization of children”. Which is really just a variant of the age-old move of claiming that anyone stepping outside of cishet patriarchal norms is trying to have sex with children.
Tony G
Unfortunately, there’s an entire media infrastructure supporting and protecting psychopaths like this woman. People like Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin — and, of course, Elon Musk — spread hate speech that’s just a little bit less flamboyant than that of this woman. She’s not worried because she has plenty of powerful people supporting her.
Damien
There’s a website, whose name I unfortunately forget, that keeps track of every news story about child sexual abuse and who perpetrates it. In a shocking turn of events, the number of trans people grooming children was about .3% while the overwhelming majority were committed by religious figures. I don’t support harassing houses of worship either, but it would make a lot more goddamn sense than going after drag queens.
Also, as Clarence Darrow once apocryphally said, I have not and will not wish Chaya Riachik dead, but I will read her obituary with great pleasure.
cckids
Isn’t her behavior similar to that of Alex Jones? He was successfully sued.
Betty Cracker
@Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony: I have no problem with that!
catclub
NSA does not pass on any info about domestic persons to Law Enforcement. I am pretty sure they are totally not allowed to until there is another 9/11 event.
Lyrebird
@JaySinWA: @WaterGirl:
If there’s a way to put alt-text on that pie or tart, I think that’s a great idea. I also missed it entirely but luckily did search for “filter”…
But yeah alt-text suggestion gets a big thumbs up from me. Good for reduced-vision/blind Jackals as well as ones like me who sometimes just miss stuff that’s obvious to others.
piratedan
Obviously I’ve watched too much TV, after reading about her “accomplishments”, I thought, yup, she’s gonna be the victim of some ‘self-righteous” creepazoid who will end her and never be found because the suspect list would comprise a number of candidates equaling the state of Nebraska.
Ksmiami
@SFAW: we don’t have to accept their violence- and we don’t have to meekly cower. The unsung heroes of the civil rights movement were armed protesters. If she wants to terrorize victimized groups, she should expect the same directed at her.
billcinsd
@Anotherlurker: So you have not heard of Likud?
billcinsd
@Raoul Paste:Yet I’m surprised that an untraceable bomb threat is possible in this day and age.
Really? Get a burner phone drive, some distance from where you live and call from a somewhat busy parking lot in a nearby town. Use gloves, throw the phone away, don’t have too new of a car, and don’t tell anyone else and it should be easy. They can track the tower nearest where the call came from and newer cars can track where you’ve been.
Now this seems like a lot of work but is probably better than jail.
Matt McIrvin
@Bill Arnold: It’s Republican mythology that the Black Lives Matter movement incited all sorts of violent acts. We have to be really careful not to give them anything they can use to round people up at some point.
lurker
@Kent: sorry to hear that – might mean some overdue attention to a festering problem, but that is always a tough situation. hope the attention helps and the overall situation improves, along with the specific student getting help
variations of these kind of problems are as old as the hills, they always victimize kids, sometimes well into adulthood
lurker
@Matt McIrvin: very true regarding rightwing/Republican mythology …
at least two points come out of that:
one, they (some people) mythologize about just about everything, and it typically has the occasional kernel of truth (not always)
two, they will eventually round people up in ways large or small whether the law permits or not – we see it in history and it will continue to echo down through the ages
does not mean we should make it easier, but the idea that someone stands up to Raichik and takes her down a peg might have a chilling effect, which would be ironic given the chilling effect her speech has
trollhattan
@Martin:
Blimp hanger? That would make one big fire.
Three, I think, remain intact at Moffett Field, somehow having avoided conversion to really nice luxury condos. They certainly stand out from the highway.
Martin
@trollhattan: Some video here, showing an air drop to try and put it out. It’s almost 20 stories high, so firefighters on the ground are pretty limited in their ability to reach the upper areas and as a self-supporting wood structure, the risk of collapse is pretty big.
Manyakitty
@kindness: more likely they hate Jews. She and Jared and Stephen Miller and their kapo ilk all think they’ll be safe from the knock at the door because they’re part of the problem. Wish I could see their faces when they find out how wrong they are.
trollhattan
@Martin: Yikes! No meaningful way to fight that–reminds me a little of the Notre Dame fire, but no stone walls.
UncleEbeneezer
@Dog Dawg Damn: And all while whining about “Cancel Culture” too
UncleEbeneezer
@Matt McIrvin: I mean, BLM did incite violence but it has been in response to BLM, not in favor of it.
Bill Arnold
@Matt McIrvin:
Sure, but you’re also arguing that it should be legally permissible to use mass incitement. to reliably commit homicide, or even murder.
Gravenstone
@Martin: We had an old wooden fairground grandstand burn down a few decades back. The mutual aid came from three states. I can’t even imagine what trying to fight an old wooden structure fire several times larger than that might entail.
Princess
Shanda fur die goyim.
Anotherlurker
Matt McIrvin
@Bill Arnold: No, just… we have to be real careful, because any expansion of the law can and will be used against us, in the worst of faith.
boba
@Martin: In the same vein that there are few violent nuts who oppose her, she should be glad there are few “SJW’s” malicious enough to dox her. She’s just one Kochava query from being sent into the same hellscape tailspin she appears to relish for others.
brantl
Wow, she should stop being an amateur douchebag, and turn pro!
brantl
@cckids: Jones was proven to be maliciously slandering
people.
brantl
@UncleEbeneezer: It is not inciting violence to have violence directed AT you, through none of your own fault.
Tehanu
Stupid as well as utterly sick and twisted. I don’t know what else to say.
SFAW
@Ksmiami:
Not sure how this response relates to my characterization of her, but … whatever.
SFAW
@Matt McIrvin:
“You know how mad Daddy gets when I don’t cook the roast exactly the way he wants it done.”
Come on, Matt. They’ll use whatever fucking excuse they want, logical or not, valid or not, rational or not.
SFAW
@Betty Cracker:
Because I am most definitely not a good person.