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Cold Grey Pre-Dawn Open Thread: St. Ashli of the Tragic Narrative Arc

by Anne Laurie|  November 27, 20233:48 am| 78 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Grifters Gonna Grift, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads

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Not exactly grifting, as far as I can tell, but… exploitive, with a veneer of godliness. Per local news CBS8:

… The film is created by SMS Novel, a faith-based interactive film company that has produced bio-pics like “I Am Kim Porter” and “King of Detroit.”

“It paints a clear picture of #1 the American journey; all of us can find us in Ashli Babbit in some ways, but secondly, a cautionary tale that misinformation has deadly consequences,” said the film’s director Jomo Johnson.

“I think that is subjective that is up to the viewer. We are not promoting one view or the other. Again, I think the fact that she is no longer with us shows that there is a consequence of whatever side you choose,” Johnson said.

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Filming will take place in Washington D.C. and Ocean Beach where Babbitt most recently lived and Spring Valley where she worked for her family pool business.

Johnson says exact filming locations and dates are private due to safety concerns…

It is titled “Nero’s Martyr,” named after the Roman emperor.

“Nero, a roman emperor, who was very unique at using the skilled propaganda to persuade countrymen and enemies. Stories like Ashlie Babbit; I don’t think she was going there to die that day. I don’t think her plan was not to come home. I think she thought she was going to be part of protest. I don’t think she knew what was going to happen. I don’t think she was willing or wanting to die. If something can happen like that to someone who is in a protest, can it happen to us? And so, we want to do honor to telling her story as a human,” said Johnson…

There’s a half-million-dollar pot already waiting, after all:

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Refresher, from an AP article shortly after Babbitt’s death:

… In the months before her death, Babbitt had become consumed by pro-Trump conspiracy theories and posted angry screeds on social media. She also had a history of making violent threats.

Babbitt, 35, was fatally shot while attempting to climb through the broken window of a barricaded door leading to the Speaker’s Lobby inside the Capitol, where police officers were evacuating members of Congress from the mob supporting Trump’s false claim that the 2020 presidential election was stolen. She was one of five people who died during or immediately after the riot, including a Capitol Police officer.

On social media, Babbitt identified as a Libertarian and ardent supporter of the Second Amendment. Her posts included videos of profane rants against Democrats, COVID-19 mask mandates and illegal immigration.

Her Twitter account, which was taken down after her death, was rife with references to the QAnon conspiracy theory, which centers on the baseless belief that Trump has secretly battled deep-state enemies and a cabal of Satan-worshiping cannibals that includes prominent Democrats who operate a child sex trafficking ring…

Trump has repeatedly insisted Babbitt was murdered, and she has achieved martyr status among Trump supporters. Her name and likeness now appear on T-shirts and flags at pro-Trump rallies…

A Trump partisan with anger issues and a gun fetish, she’s just like us, fr fr!… Not sure there’s a coherent *narrative* to be assembled, but there’s clearly a *market* out there.

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Monday Evening Open Thread: MAGA Mike Releases the Kraken Jan6 Tapes

by Anne Laurie|  November 20, 20234:21 pm| 88 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Republican Venality

Here’s a Capitol CCTV mashup worth watching. pic.twitter.com/y2Yy9jYDkm

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) November 18, 2023

#SpeakerForTheMoment Johnson needed something to distract the MAGAts over the upcoming holiday weekend, while they have too much time to brood over how Black Friday pre-dawn sales squatting just isn’t fun any more, and also the goddamned liberals are still corrupting the education of everyone at the big family dinner under the age of 35.

So he arranged for the dump of a claimed first tranche of carefully selected video from the Jan6 Capitol invasion, to keep the true believers busy hunched over their phones, obsessively scrolling and screen-shotting BREAKING NEWS that will DESTROY the LIE that a bunch of cultists hopped up on cortisol and the words of their Dear Leader vandalized the seat of our national government. Hi, Mom!

BREAKING: Speaker Mike says that telling terrorists how to hunt down his colleagues better than the last time will build trust.

Why is Speakerjohnson helping terrorists hunt down members of Congress? https://t.co/TzS47uU0W3

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) November 18, 2023

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The extreme right is trying to reframe the events of January 6, 2021. A day when the nation we served to defend was attacked from within. All who took part in the egregious acts of that day MUST be held accountable.

pic.twitter.com/rfbHJcGCHG

— VoteVets (@votevets) November 18, 2023

The reason they hadn't released the complete Jan 6 footage is that it contains a wealth of security details that could help future insurrectionists plan a more successful attack.

Coincidentally, that's also why Mike Johnson *did* release it.

— AuTomnal Hilton (@TVHilton) November 18, 2023

The House will blur out Jan. 6 video to prevent retaliation against those who stormed the House. https://t.co/ulYIfc3m0q

— Brad Heath (@bradheath) November 17, 2023

It's already failed since people were wearing clothes and hats and filmed themselves elsewhere. Wear matching uniforms next time guys. Something brown or maybe white. https://t.co/Cl30LtKDov

— zeddy (@Zeddary) November 18, 2023

Mike Lee (… roy Jenkins!), at it again:

Senator Mike Lee and other Republican elected officials are posting this still image of a man who has since been convicted in a court of law for his crimes that day, claiming he’s holding a badge in his hand and that it’s evidence J6 was an inside job.

Zoom in. It’s a vape. pic.twitter.com/M2hYNRj72v

— Heath Mayo (@HeathMayo) November 19, 2023

Fucking Senator CSI ova here https://t.co/X3zjZGBFZQ

— B-21 Mothra (@TonyMoonbeam) November 19, 2023

Remember how nervous Mike Lee was about investigators accessing phone metadata from Jan 6? pic.twitter.com/79A7C9cEZ4

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) November 20, 2023

No way it all gets released as they say because before the weekend is out the sedition hunters are gonna easily put names and fresh crimes to blurred faces. https://t.co/lMggDuAH7X

— zeddy (@Zeddary) November 17, 2023

Reminder: when people say the J6ers were “peaceful”, what they mean is they were *white*.

— AuTomnal Hilton (@TVHilton) November 19, 2023

These guys are already in jail, but I’m sure they’re looking forward to their comrades in arms joining them…

“Jan. 6 will be a day in infamy.” — Joe Biggs in a selfie video presented as evidence in the Proud Boys seditious conspiracy trial this week. pic.twitter.com/K80Us4tD0c

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) January 21, 2023

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Horrifying Read: Libs of TikTok, Domestic Terrorist Organization

by Anne Laurie|  November 7, 202311:30 am| 101 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, LGBTQ Rights Are Human Rights, social media

↓↓↓ Celebrating stochastic terrorism. https://t.co/TVrShpHJgA

— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) November 6, 2023

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Will Carless, at USAToday — “When Libs of TikTok tweets, threats increasingly follow”:

Brookings, South Dakota. A university LGBTQ+ group is hit with a flood of hate mail, culminating in a bomb threat that terrifies students.

San Lorenzo, California. A drag queen story hour is one of several Pride events across the country stormed by suspected members of the extremist street gang the Proud Boys. The men shout homophobic slurs and threats, and a performer hides in a back room, waiting for police to arrive.

Philadelphia. Boston. Pittsburgh. Washington, D.C. Akron, Ohio. Threats hit hospitals and medical clinics, and some temporarily evacuate their patients while law enforcement assesses the danger.

Then comes summer and fall 2023, at least two dozen public schools and libraries start receiving bomb threats. In California, Colorado, Oklahoma and Wisconsin, they cancel classes and evacuate students.

These cases, and many more, share a common link: The victim of each threat had also been targeted, in the days before, by the enormously popular conservative social media channel Libs of TikTok.

In almost every case, the perpetrator of the threat is unknown, and Chaya Raichik, the far-right influencer who runs Libs of TikTok, says she opposes violence, and that because there have been almost no arrests, there’s no proof the threats come from her followers.

But whoever is making the threats, the posts show a clear pattern. USA TODAY has confirmed dozens of bomb threats, death threats and other harassment after Libs of TikTok’s posts since February 2022, based on exclusive new research from the progressive analysis group Media Matters for America.

Numerous news reports have covered individual threats, noting the target had also been mentioned by Libs of TikTok. But the new analysis of years of tweets, including archives of many Raichik has since deleted, shows the pattern is more extensive and pervasive than has been previously known – and that threats, specifically against schools, have ratcheted up significantly in the past two months…

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The @LibsofTikTok Twitter handle was created in April 2021 by Raichik, a former Brooklyn real estate agent who grew up in Los Angeles.

Raichik created the account to “raise awareness about the situation in America,” she told USA TODAY. “There’s a clear pattern of the sexualization of children going on in public schools, and I think that’s a problem,” she said. “I think it’s super harmful, and I want to call it out, and raise awareness to it.”

The account has become a creator of, and a force multiplier for, right-wing outrage, particularly on LGBTQ+ issues. On X it has been amplified by the platform’s owner Elon Musk, and a hive of conservative politicians, media personalities and far-right online influencers, including former Fox News anchor Tucker Carlson and podcaster Joe Rogan…

Like most social media influencers, Raichik doesn’t produce all the content she tweets about. Libs of TikTok regularly shares videos and posts created by other far-right accounts, often with inaccuracies, misinformation and thinly veiled hatred mixed in.

But while those other accounts may have a smaller reach, once Libs of TikTok chooses a target, the viral response can quickly spin out of control…

In recent months, Raichik, who calls herself a journalist, has begun labeling certain posts as “Scoops” – indicating they contain original reporting that nobody else has published, including the targets of her posts.

She told USA TODAY she is increasingly filing requests under public records law, with the hope of revealing previously unknown information. That’s a shift away from her original brand – the idea that she just posts videos the “libs,” themselves, already made.

Whatever her intention, Raichik has clearly spent recent months focused on one target: public schools…

Much more disheartening detail at the link.

The pattern is so consistent that we should hesitate to label it as merely stochastic terrorism. It's her brand, frankly, and should be investigated like there's more to it than just rabid fans and radicalized facebook boomers. https://t.co/JhNKwEZiD6

— zeddy (@Zeddary) November 2, 2023

Personal opinion: Raichik started her social-media campaign purely as a way to garner more attention… but now that she’s succeeded so ‘brilliantly’, her burgeoning reach is being supported by some entity with much deeper pockets. The Leonard Leo Foundation? Tucker Carlson’s branch of ‘alternative news’ media? Malign foreign entities? (or some combination of all three?)

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“The biggest fiend that ever hit the big time —
And all I had to do was, act naturally!”

Not only celebrating causing bomb and death threats but also a nice pat on the back from the owner of this site. Really dark shit, here. pic.twitter.com/NBkwTnxUCv

— Steve Mullis (@stevemullis) November 6, 2023

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Late Night Open Thread: Every Man His Own Martyr

by Anne Laurie|  September 15, 20232:30 am| 48 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads, Republican Venality

“You have the right not to wear T-shirts incriminating yourself, you… you fucking moron.” https://t.co/pDHffn5z3K

— Euan MacDonald (@Euan_MacDonald) September 14, 2023

Do me a favor, Henry: Make this into an ad. Vote Trump, so seditionists can run the streets again! https://t.co/PdkJnVvhjU

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) September 14, 2023

I wrote up a piece for @ArcDigi about some of the MAGA responses to the Tarrio sentence. Sarah Palin asked “what’s the point of being a good guy?” And the likes of Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles naturally talked about child traffickers and rapists. https://t.co/pXDbnc5NO8

— Alan Elrod (@aselrod) September 8, 2023


If Tarrio showed up unannounced in her nice suburban neighborhood, Palin would either call out the neighborhood watch or ask him where his landscaping equipment was.

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Sarah Palin went on Eric Bolling’s Newsmax show this week to express her displeasure at Enrique Tarrio being sentenced to 22 years for his involvement in the January 6 insurrection. For Palin, Tarrio’s sentence is an outrage for a fairly simple reason: he and other January 6 defendants are the good guys…

Palin’s argument is perfectly in step with how extremist nationalism operates. The people acting on behalf of the nation cannot be doing wrong. They’re by definition heroic figures. If they’re not that, they’re redeemed by their sheer everydayness.

This is typical of January 6 apologia. The insurrectionists were some combination of patriotic, harmless, and understandably outraged people, united by being normal Americans.

At worst, they were people who got carried away and committed some minor offenses like scuffling with officers and damaging property. At best? It was 1776.

What’s important is that these are the good Americans, the good guys. Their actions don’t deserve or necessitate the use of the state’s powerful capacity to apply justice. In fact, doing so delegitimizes the state because no good government would treat them like the real criminals who are deservedly punished by our police and courts every day…

Matt Lewis, at the Daily Beast:

… Former Arizona Republican gubernatorial nominee Kari Lake took the opportunity to revisit an old trope, calling it a “staged riot,” and saying that “many of the people were encouraged to go in by FBI informants.”

Meanwhile, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis suggested that, as president, he would pardon rioters who were handed “excessive sentences.” Like others on the right, DeSantis went out of his way to argue that “a lot of people with the BLM riots… didn’t get prosecuted at all.”…

… Likewise, presidential candidate and tech bro Vivek Ramaswamy lamented that “Antifa and BLM rioters roam free while peaceful Jan. 6 protesters are imprisoned without bail.” As such, Ramaswamy pledged to pardon “all peaceful, nonviolent Jan. 6 protesters who were denied their constitutional due process rights.”…

Regardless of the sentencing, it seems likely that the fate of the Capitol rioters will ultimately be determined based on which party wins next year’s presidential election. So while their prosecution wasn’t politically motivated, their pardoning most certainly would be.

This is an open secret that is already being used to encourage MAGA voters to get-out-the-vote…

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee declared this week that “People in power use their police agencies to arrest their opponents for made-up crimes in an attempt to discredit them bankrupt and imprison them, exile them, are all of the above. And if you’re not paying attention, you may not realize that Joe Biden is using exactly those tactics to make sure that Donald Trump is not his opponent in 2024.”

“If these tactics end up working to keep Trump from winning or even running in 2024,” Huckabee continued, “it is going to be the last American election that will be decided by ballots rather than bullets.” (Regarding Huckabee’s dangerous rhetoric, it’s unclear where the warning of violence stops and the inciting of violence begins.)…

Every woman, too…

“Don’t take me seriously, I’m a fucking blowhard” is true of 99.995% of these people. They’re just unserious fucking blowhards.

The problem, of course, is the remaining 0.005%. https://t.co/i7gkmkElMF

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 11, 2023

JUST IN—

Ashli Babbitt’s mother was captured on video making a death threat against Nancy Pelosi.

Again.

She claimed it wasn’t a threat because she wasn’t going to follow through on it. https://t.co/BVD43UmC2n

— MeidasTouch (@MeidasTouch) September 11, 2023

Micki Witthoeft, the mother of January 6th insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt, once again called for Nancy Pelosi to be hanged in another sick violence-laden rant this weekend…

“Being an equal opportunity rope swinger, I think Nancy Pelosi belongs at the end of a rope,” Witthoeft said to deafening cheers from the crowd of terrorists. She went on, “again these are not threats because I don’t want to get hit with seditious conspiracy or some other charge. So while you’re writing the indictment FBI get that straight. I said they deserve it, not that I’m going to do it.”

Witthoeft: “I’m not a vigilante, and I don’t plan on stringing Nancy Pelosi or [Capitol Police Officer] Michael Byrd up. So I will have to wait for God to give them their justice, or the American people. Because it’s within our power.”

Just to note: the FBI, just like any agency of the DOJ, or Jack Smith, or any DA or prosecutor, doesn’t have indictment capability. That power rests with citizen grand juries.

The FBI does, however, have the ability to investigate the increasingly violent calls for terrorism on the right.

Also the charming Ms. Witthoeft:

Great story by @ArthurDelaneyHP, including this… interesting exchange https://t.co/TzcbnT7GOo pic.twitter.com/BjnDVbW5D4

— Joe Perticone (@JoePerticone) August 19, 2023

Meanwhile, at the Justice Department…

Justice Dept is stacking up more Jan 6 guilty pleas (650+ so far)

Tyng Yang of Illinois has pleaded guilty to civil disorder.
Prosecutors said, "When.. officers attempted to clear the crowd, Yang forcibly interfered by physically grabbing hold of an officer’s baton"

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) September 14, 2023

A growing wave of new Jan 6 arrests. Feds have now charged Billy Gober of Texas. They allege Gober confronted officers as police line collapsed & “Gober charged at another MPD officer, grabbed the officer’s baton, and attempted to take it.”

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) September 14, 2023

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Monday Evening Open Thread: Never Forget (Our Very Own Monsters)

by Anne Laurie|  September 11, 20239:13 pm| 75 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Foreign Affairs, GOP Death Cult, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

Monday Evening Open Thread:  Never Forget (Our Very Own Monsters)

(Clay Jones via GoComics.com)

 
Some of us knew, even as the second WTC tower fell, that ‘our’ very own C-Plus Augustus and his quasi-adult handlers were going to weaponize !!! 9/11 !!! and release all their vilest realpolitik fantasies. I had dear friends who only survived because circumstances had them out of their WTC offices that day, and yet I could still fear for the millions of innocents who would suffer because a Saudi terrorist hiding out in Pakistan would give Dubya Bush the chance to work out his murderous daddy issues on millions of innocents elsewhere. WE’LL PUT A BOOT IN YER A**, IT’S THE ‘MURICAN WAY…

This broke my heart, a little more.

The first thing I think of when 9/11 comes up is Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh man murdered days after 9/11 by Frank Silva Roque, who told friends he was going to "go shoot some towelheads". Sodhi's murder was part of shootings at three locations. pic.twitter.com/Pm6XJVEr8c

— Jean-Michel Connard 🎃 (@torriangray) September 11, 2023

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Sodhi's family are amazing people. His brother wrote an op end recently that I think is worth reading. https://t.co/QyT59fKGtW

— Jean-Michel Connard 🎃 (@torriangray) September 11, 2023


USA Today, June 2022:

My family received a letter last month from the Arizona Department of Corrections. In it, they told us that the man who murdered my brother died in prison on May 11.

Today, I am writing to express my public condolences to the family of Frank Roque.

Twenty-one years ago, my brother Balbir Singh Sodhi was shot to death in front of his store in Mesa. Balbir was a Sikh American father who wore a turban and kept a long beard as part of our faith. He was the first person killed in the wave of hate violence against people of color that followed the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

The man who killed him, Frank Roque, was arrested and eventually sentenced to life in prison…

On the 15-year anniversary of my brother’s death, I was tired. I had been telling my brother’s story to everyone I could – to media, lawmakers and students – but the hate in our country was getting worse. I was tired of racial violence against Sikhs, and against people from so many other communities.

“Nothing has changed,” I said to our family advocate. When she asked if I wanted to speak with Frank, I said yes.

We called Frank in prison in a recorded conversation on Sept. 16, 2016. It was the first time I had ever spoken to him. At first, Frank defended himself. “The events of 9/11 so broke me down as a man that I could not control what happened,” he said.

It was hard to listen, but I kept trying to understand Frank – and then, Frank said to our advocate, “I’m sorry for what happened to his brother.”

I spoke up, replying: “This is the first time I’m hearing that you feel sorry.”…

“I want you to know from my heart, I’m sorry for what I did to your brother,” Frank said to me. “One day, when I go to heaven to be judged by God, I will ask to see your brother, and I will hug him, and I will ask him for forgiveness.”

“I already forgave you,” I told Frank, because in my heart, I believe that forgiveness is freedom from hate. “If one day you come out [of prison], we can both go to the world and tell the story,” I said…

Four days after Frank died, I saw the news of the mass shooting in Buffalo, N.Y., where an 18-year-old white supremacist killed 10 Black people in a grocery store. Then, a few days after that, we learned of the school shooting that left 19 children and 2 teachers dead in Uvalde, Texas. Frank took my brother’s life before either of these gunmen were even born.

My heart breaks for the families who lost loved ones in these attacks, and I join so many in asking our elected officials to take action in response to these massacres. In the case of Buffalo, we must acknowledge that white supremacy is a horrible disease that keeps spreading from generation to generation…

And in both cases, the need for the most basic, commonsense gun reform is as clear to me, as it was when my brother was shot to death 20 years ago.

Ultimately, if Frank can be changed, I believe we can reach anyone before they succumb to hate. We can reach them with love. So today, I send love to Frank Roque’s family. I express my condolences for their loss.

And I mourn Frank. He’s not outside of our hearts – no one is.

There’s an Irish-American mantra: Forgive, maybe. Forget, never.

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Saturday Evening Open Thread: Enrique Tarrio, Another ‘Freedumb Martyr’

by Anne Laurie|  September 9, 20236:16 pm| 146 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel

Saturday Evening Open Thread: Enrique Tarrio, Another 'Freedumb' Martyr

(Clay Bennett via GoComics.com)

 

Khalid Sheikh Muhammed wasn't even in New York on 9/11

He was in Pakistan.

But none of that matters https://t.co/K9GzQNFNhh

— The okayest poster there is (@ok_post_guy) September 6, 2023

Story in the NYTimes, “Seeking Link to Trump, Prosecutors Questioned Proud Boys Leader”:

Last October, a few months before he went to trial on sedition charges linked to the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the Proud Boys, got an invitation: The federal prosecutors in charge of his case asked him and his lawyers to sit down for a meeting.

During that meeting, Mr. Tarrio recounted on Friday in a phone interview from jail, the prosecutors told him that they believed he had communicated in the run-up to the riot with President Donald J. Trump through at least three intermediaries.

The prosecutors, Mr. Tarrio said, offered him leniency if he could corroborate their theory.

Mr. Tarrio said he told them they were wrong. And the discussion with prosecutors — which took place in Miami, Mr. Tarrio’s hometown — apparently went nowhere. Mr. Tarrio was later convicted of seditious conspiracy in federal court in Washington and was sentenced on Tuesday to 22 years in prison.

But his account of his interaction with the Justice Department suggests that prosecutors took extraordinary steps in seeking out evidence of ties between Mr. Trump and the Proud Boys, the far-right group that was instrumental to the violence that erupted at the Capitol. To have approached Mr. Tarrio soon before his trial in search of information that could implicate the former president shows the government’s interest in connections between Mr. Trump and the extremists at the center of the riot…

Of course, there is now a Great Flapping on right-wing media, insisting that Tarrio is ‘being punished for refusing to lie about President Trump.’ I personally doubt TFG masterminded the insurrection — even if he had that much focus, he would never have been able to bring himself to conspire with grubby, low-level People Like That — but it’s pretty clear he was more than happy to be the beneficiary of other GOP criminals’ earnest efforts. And since Tarrio, as the Brits would put it, has form as an informant, I assume his jailhouse interview (with, AFAICT, Gateway Pundit, aka The Dumbest Man on the Internet) is intended to cover his own hide while simultaneously signalling to his coconspirators not yet under carceral supervision.

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Latinos always out ahead of everyone! #SoProud pic.twitter.com/7thq2VOuia

— Lalo Alcaraz (@laloalcaraz) September 5, 2023

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
STAB ME https://t.co/WlfCWRWMTW

— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) September 6, 2023

The coolest thing your lawyer can say right before you go to jail https://t.co/A7Zsbqz9cD

— elle hardy (@ellehardy) September 6, 2023

Reminder: Before Tarrio became the Proud Boys leader, he used to snitch to the Feds that helped prosecute 13 people on federal charges in 2014 so he could get his own 2014 fraud case sentence reduced. https://t.co/9tlYm5iPCr

— José (@josecanyousee) September 5, 2023

A photo thread for no reason pic.twitter.com/IFTfwiU51R

— Tim Dickinson (@7im) May 4, 2023

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Tuesday Evening Open Thread: Proud Boy Enrique Tarrio Sentenced

by Anne Laurie|  September 5, 20238:25 pm| 157 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Jan 6: Insurrection, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel

WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio gets 22 years in prison, longest sentence yet in Jan. 6 Capitol riot. pic.twitter.com/RDgYXUS9N9

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) September 5, 2023

BREAKING: 39-year-old Enrique Tarrio, once the top leader of the Proud Boys, was sentenced to 22 years in federal prison for orchestrating the failed plot to forcibly block the peaceful transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election. pic.twitter.com/gw07M2zS4K

— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) September 5, 2023

That sentence could keep Tarrio behind bars thru next 5 Presidential elections

— Scott MacFarlane (@MacFarlaneNews) September 5, 2023

There was considerable speculation that Tarrio’s trial, and then his sentencing, had been delayed because he was a ‘cooperating witness’, providing (or at least promising) information to implicate coconspirators higher up the food chain. Whether that had anything to do with his ‘lighter’ sentence, I certainly don’t know. Per Politico:

Enrique Tarrio, the national leader of the Proud Boys on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced Tuesday to 22 years in prison for masterminding a seditious conspiracy aimed at derailing the transfer of power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.

The sentence, the lengthiest among hundreds arising from the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, is a reflection of prosecutors’ evidence that the Proud Boys, helmed by Tarrio, played the most pivotal role in stoking the violent breach of police lines and the Capitol itself…

Hundreds of Proud Boys from across the country, vetted and assembled by Tarrio and a group of top lieutenants, became a vanguard of sorts as a mob of Trump supporters descended on the Capitol, and members of the group were involved in nearly every breach of police lines that day. Dominic Pezzola, a New York Proud Boy who triggered the breach of the Capitol itself by smashing a Senate window with a stolen police shield, was sentenced Friday to 10 years in prison.

Tarrio, unlike most of his co-conspirators, was not at the Capitol on Jan. 6. Upon his arrival in Washington on Jan. 4, 2021, he was arrested for his role in the theft and burning of a Black Lives Matter flag from a church after an earlier pro-Trump march. Tarrio was released the next day and ordered to leave Washington D.C., so he headed with a group of allies to a hotel in Baltimore.

Prosecutors say despite his absence, he remained in touch with his men and monitored their actions on Jan. 6. And after the attack, he repeatedly celebrated the attack, defended his allies and regretted that it didn’t fully derail the transfer of power. He was convicted in May of seditious conspiracy, conspiring to obstruct Congress’ proceedings and destroying government property, among other charges.

Tarrio’s sentence closes a significant chapter in the investigation of the Jan. 6 attack. His 22-year sentence is likely to remain the lengthiest for anyone charged in connection with the attack itself — a mark that exceeds the 18-year sentences handed down to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes and Tarrio’s ally Ethan Nordean.

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Prosecutors portrayed Tarrio as a uniquely influential figure who singularly organized a group of hardened Proud Boys members and aimed them at the Capitol on Jan. 6. They said his sentence had to serve as a deterrent to anyone who might target America’s system of government in the future…

Kelly, a Trump appointee, appeared largely unmoved by Tarrio’s words of contrition. He emphasized that as the attack unfolded, he used his platform to tell his allies “Don’t fucking leave.” And that night, Tarrio privately told a confidant, “Make no mistake. We did this.” Despite Tarrio’s contrition, Kelly again slammed him for comparing Pezzola to George Washington…

The judge added that he doesn’t see evidence, despite Tarrio’s apologies, that he feels remorse for the seditious conspiracy for which he was convicted.

The Proud Boys traced their rise in large part to Trump himself, gaining national notoriety for street brawls against left-wing protesters who they accused of aligning with antifa. The group saw a recruitment surge in September 2020 when Trump told them to “stand back and stand by” on a debate stage — a comment that became a rallying cry for Tarrio and other Proud Boys leaders…

After Trump urged supporters to descend on Washington on Jan. 6 for a last-ditch effort to cling to power, the Proud Boys began mobilizing — and in prosecutors’ view, conspiring to help Trump derail the transfer of power at any cost. Stung by the violence they witnessed in December, the group also said they wanted to ensure they only brought disciplined men who would follow orders, and they established a new chapter — “The Ministry of Self-Defense” — aimed at organizing their Jan. 6 efforts.

Prosecutors also homed in on Tarrio’s receipt of a document from a girlfriend — Eryka Flores — titled “1776 returns,” a blueprint for occupying federal buildings in order to block Congress’ Jan. 6 proceedings. The document described the Capitol as “The Winter Palace,” a reference to the Russian Revolution of 1917. Tarrio, when texting with an exhilarated ally on the evening on Jan. 6, responded simply, “Winter Palace.”

A glass-half-full argument from Shane Burley, “author of “Fascism Today: What It Is and How to End It””, at NBC:

… The convictions of Tarrio, Biggs, Rhodes, Nordean and others have been hailed as justice. And it’s true that efforts to hold far-right leaders accountable are promising signs for anyone concerned about the rise of far-right street violence. But the hefty sentences prosecutors asked for could have, potentially, complicated other efforts to undermine groups like the Proud Boys. Which is why the lighter (but still historically long) sentence for Tarrio and his comrades could be seen as a win, not a loss.

Backing up slightly, the high-profile Oath Keeper and Proud Boys trials elicited complicated reactions from some left-wing advocates. Prosecutors went after leaders like Tarrio — who was not at the Capitol on Jan. 6 — by arguing they used violent rioters as “tools” of a broader conspiracy. Similar approaches have been used against left-wing and antifascist activists in the past, including against demonstrators who took to the streets of D.C. during Trump’s inauguration. Right-wing media figure Andy Ngo also used similar logic in a recent civil case, where he tried to connect large numbers of activists as part of a broader conspiracy and alleged assault. (Ngo ultimately lost his claim, although he still won default judgments against several people named in the case.) For these reasons, left-wing activists are wary of any legal strategy that argues participation in a demonstration makes you an accomplice to violence, even if there isn’t evidence of your direct participation.

Another reason Tarrio’s sentence could be viewed as a win has to do with the far-right’s increasingly caustic dive into conspiracy theories, particularly claims that the entire federal apparatus has been taken over by the shadowy “deep state.” The related belief that Trump is being railroaded by politically motivated and disingenuous attacks has become far too common on the right. And even before law enforcement agencies started hunting down Jan. 6 protesters, the violence of the insurrection was being downplayed by MAGA fanatics. While conspiracy theories have always been endemic to American politics, we’re witnessing the rise of what scholar Michael Barkun calls the “superconspiracy”: a conspiratorial theory of everything. The overwhelming nature of today’s conspiracies can lead to desperation, and desperation can lead to more violence. If the political and legal system is hopelessly corrupt, this thinking goes, the only thing left to do is tear the whole thing down.

Of course, the vast denialism that exists on the far-right makes most attempts at accountability difficult. This is not a community that is likely to learn from or take responsibility for its actions. And there is always the risk that these groups could splinter into even more decentralized, and radical, far-right cells. The Proud Boys may remain a relatively decentralized version of their gang, now leaderless, or it may rebrand.

But there’s no doubt the efforts of the Department of Justice have had an impact. The chances that another Jan. 6 could take place, in full public view of cameras and press, feels more unlikely than previously. Hopefully, the sentences handed down this summer will further deter the next generation of far-right activists — and not just drive them deeper underground.

Thus, historically harsh sentences run the risk of validating and further entrenching this mindset, playing right into the hands of those who wish to paint themselves as the heroic, patriotic victims of a malevolent government…

Of course, the vast denialism that exists on the far-right makes most attempts at accountability difficult. This is not a community that is likely to learn from or take responsibility for its actions. And there is always the risk that these groups could splinter into even more decentralized, and radical, far-right cells. The Proud Boys may remain a relatively decentralized version of their gang, now leaderless, or it may rebrand.

But there’s no doubt the efforts of the Department of Justice have had an impact. The chances that another Jan. 6 could take place, in full public view of cameras and press, feels more unlikely than previously. Hopefully, the sentences handed down this summer will further deter the next generation of far-right activists — and not just drive them deeper underground.

Here’s hoping Roger Stone is having a very bad evening, the first in a series of same:

Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, Roger Stone’s one-time “volunteer,” will be sentenced today. Tarrio has been convicted of seditious conspiracy for his role in the events of Jan 6. The photo below is from Stone’s 2018 video address to the gang. 1/ https://t.co/zlPLTxOaUj pic.twitter.com/N18r58uFlU

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— Lynda Thomas (@lynda8130) September 5, 2023

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