Put them all on an island survivor style. Then drone it. https://t.co/diARfqdbkL
— Jean-Michel Connard ?? (@torriangray) November 10, 2023
Dean Phillips, Gift to All Grifters.
Great example of the idiocy of “we need businessmen in politics” myth; if Phillips were actually good at business & good at politics he’d know a bunch of the people he’s hired are parasites who feed off the carcasses of weenie “I’m going to do things differently” loser candidates https://t.co/8uomFDziy9
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 9, 2023
One bloc of reliable (D) voters Phillips is most unlikely to lure away:
He also is finding out there’s more to winning the D primary than hiring a team of proven losers to run his campaign
— Claude Lemieux ?? (@ClaudeLemieuxCA) November 9, 2023
In case you need more proof that Dean Phillips is the candidate of panicking rich dilettantes: https://t.co/GMKPU8VO8U
— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) November 8, 2023
What does “Democrats better get their act together, fast” mean? It appears that nobody who currently works w Democrats works for him, his campaign has gotten off to a disastrous start, & Dems aren’t showing interest in him. He’s a novelty act, until his money runs out https://t.co/7sJK0S9ru3
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) November 4, 2023
We’re less than a week in to @repdeanphillips campaign, and it’s clearly one of the best-run campaigns in America.
And by “best-run” I mean you take three-dozen coked-up rabid monkeys, coat them in motor oil, tape knives to their paws, and set them loose in a Cracker Barrel on a…
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) November 3, 2023
Scoop: @deanbphillips' longshot bid for president is running into a problem: Minnesota power players are demanding he return past campaign donations or he must commit not to use those funds vs. @JoeBiden.
Others are just flat out saying they won't help himhttps://t.co/rmPkNRpAHt— Brian Schwartz (@schwartzbCNBC) November 6, 2023
A fine example of that famous ‘Midwestern Nice’… Minnesota senator knifes Wisconsin rep, but sweetly:
It IS hard to break through partisanship in Washington… that’s why I’m proud to support President Biden…
The only candidate who has actually delivered on this value with the biggest *bipartisan* investment in American infrastructure in decades.
Biden delivers. https://t.co/7gsJjAD5JP
— Tina Smith (@TinaSmithMN) November 3, 2023
Hey, Dean Phillips is entitled to light his personal fortune on fire, but I wouldn’t run in a Dem primary on a laundry list of issues Republicans cared about in the early aughts because that’s the era his GOP campaign manager is stuck in. https://t.co/aVFh5f66xo
— Susan J. Demas ?? (@sjdemas) November 3, 2023
Speaking of balanced, reach-across-the-aisle, Repub-style CENTRISM!!!…
Manchin’s ambitions have been constantly inflated, mostly (it would seem) out of sheer boredom by the national press https://t.co/5wmdCVlqS1
— Peter Wolf (@peterawolf) November 10, 2023
Periodic reminder that the actual Democrat won the 1992 election in an Electoral College landslide https://t.co/Vkvgu3uEAf
— Mark Copelovitch (@mcopelov) November 10, 2023
And the Third Party Ball just wouldn’t be the same without Jill ‘Russian Asset’ Stein!
If you made a list of things that are both very dangerous and incredibly annoying, this would be near or at the top.
Jill Stein launches 2024 bid as Green Party candidate | The Hill https://t.co/4sDbVdq5Xq
— Matt Bennett (@ThirdWayMattB) November 9, 2023
I guess the Russians were disappointed in Cornel West’s underperformance
— AuTomnal Hilton (@TVHilton) November 10, 2023
They'll all gonna share the same pool of voters. The people that ignore that ultimately only one of two people will be inaugurated on January 20, 2025, and that Trump is the other one.
That pie keeps getting more and more forks, reducing anyone's chance of even a Perot.
— Jay Robertson ???????? (@IJefTomI) November 12, 2023
A wonderful bit of phrasing: That pie keeps getting more and more forks…
Origuy
Too good not to share; it’s in response to a tweet by Marianne Williamson.
Ryan
Let’s not forget Steve Schmidt and his idiocy in all of this.
mrmoshpotato
Works for me.
mrmoshpotato
@Origuy: Can’t Marianne just ask one of her healing crystals?
Jay
@mrmoshpotato:
She did, but they don’t answer calls on their cell phones from “unknown callers”.
something fabulous
Hey AL, if in “A fine example of that famous ‘Midwestern Nice’… Minnesota senator knifes Wisconsin rep, but sweetly:” you mean Phillips as the latter, he’s *also* from MN, per the tweet right above. Even MORE delicious! She’s patting the head of one of her own delegation– with her tidy knife!
Betty Cracker
Speaking of also-rans, Tim Scott dropped out, according to WaPo:
They’re saying, “Not ever, Tim.”
Baud
What a good opening for Bernie to explain how he lied to his supporters in 2016 about the primary being rigged.
Dean Phillips is such a dope. He says he’s running because Biden is too old, but he runs a campaign that is more indicative of old people than Biden.
JPL
Are Larry Hogan and Joe Manchin gonna team up to form another white party to act as a spoiler for Biden?
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Russians must be really desperate to send her back out
Geminid
Rep. Phillips is talking himself out of his day job. Former Minneapolis official Ron Harris announced a primary challenge last month, and now State Senator Kelly Morrison (D) says she’s running. A medical doctor, Morrison says she her experience as an Ob-Gyn will make her a good advocate for abortion rights and other health issues.
When Phillips flipped the Minnesota 3rd CD in 2018, he was one of 40 Democrats who beat Republican incumbents that year. Elissa Slotkin, Lauren Underwood, Sharice Davids and many others won in suburban districts like his. It was demographic change and broader political shifts, not his personal magnetism, that put Phillips in office. After redistricting, Phillips won last year by 18 points. This is a safe seat and 3rd District Dems (or rather DFLers) may well decide next August that Dean Phillips is expendable.
Baud
@Geminid:
I just hope the anti-Philips slate doesn’t split the vote.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Jeff Weaver, AKA “Comic book Guy”
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
/fixed
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Baud
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
No lie.
Geminid
@Baud: That is possible. I suspect the State Senator wil gain separation from the former Minneapolis official in polling, and garner most of the anti-Phillips vote.
The party may be a factor here as well. Minnesota’s Democratic Farmer-Labor Party will hold a district convention and its endorsement should help consolidate the anti-Phillips vote, which I expect grows every day that bonehead sticks his foot in his mouth.
Llelldorin
@Baud: He kind of has to — one of Biden’s greatest strengths is keeping up with shifts in politics. The people most annoyed with Biden honestly seem to be the “get of my lawn” contingent who can’t understand why he isn’t keeping the kids off of his lawn.
TS
UK Politics is having a grand day
Exit Suella Braverman
re-enter David Cameron
I am sure we will shortly hear the words of wisdom from the British contingent
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-6740175
Splitting Image
When was the last time a sequel with this high a number was any good?
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Splitting Image: I hear the sequel to “Oppenheimer” is a dud
Baud
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
The radiation turned him into a superhero.
p.a.
Whoever said there’s no second act to Americans’ lives predated modern scam-politics.
eclare
There is an article on TMZ showing RFK Jr. barefoot on a commercial flight. It says he walked to the restroom like that. Ewwww!
https://www.tmz.com/2023/11/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-rfk-barefoot-aisle-floor-first-class-flight/
Rusty
Phillips isn’t generating much press coverage here in the Granite State (our heads are generally full of rocks). I haven’t even seen a poster staked out in someone’s yard. I can’t wait to write in Joe’s name on the meaningless primary ballot, just to show Phillips as near zero support as possible.
hueyplong
This Phillips BS looks a bit like someone in GOP Programming said it’s time to try the RFK Jr gambit with angry-boring instead of angry-crazy as the key feature.
They’re so used to FoxNews saturation that they’re oblivious to the fact that the language alone offends us as transparent Republican-speak.
It’s a corollary to the GOP House, which is demonstrating that choosing leaders purely on high feral content, without the slightest regard or respect for intelligence, has its strategic limitations. They can barely turn on the lights without someone fumbling in her purse for a Glock.
Soprano2
Phillips’ campaign seems like yet another futile attempt to get the working class white male vote to come back to Democrats, even though they haven’t voted for the Democrat since Reagan. Phillips can’t stand the idea that the voter he thinks is the “average” isn’t voting for Democrats.
Betty Cracker
Not that we needed further evidence, but Phillips’ endorsement of the “rigged” crap is proof that his stated case for running is bullshit. Phillips says he’s afraid Biden will lose to Trump because Biden is old and unpopular.
Okay. Welcome to the party, pal — lots of people share those fears. But while the idea that Dems would throw away the advantage of incumbency to flock to the banner of an unknown backbencher is ludicrous, that’s Phillips’ entire theory of the case, according to him.
So now he’s going to divide the party by crying foul because the incumbent isn’t going to debate him? Who does that serve? Only Phillips’ apparently cathedral-sized ego. It sure doesn’t help keep Trump out.
Geminid
Things are heating up some in eastern Syria. There are around 700 American troops there continuing efforts with local partners to suppress ISIS. Iranian-backed militias have been attacking them with drones and the US retaliated again by bombing a weapons storage site. A Pentagon spokeman warned that the US will hit harder if neccesary. Our Kurdish YPG militia are now trading artillery fire with Assad government forces, and some Arab militias who were backing US efforts have gone over to the government. This is all occuring around the Euphrates River city of Deir Ezzor(sp?), which interestingly has an “Deir Ezzor24” news site.
Meanwhile in northwestern Syria, Russian and government planes have intensified their bombing campaign in Idlib Province, the last major opposition stronghold. Assad and the Russians are counting on people not noticing the mounting casualties because they are fixated on the bombing in Gaza.
Jinchi
@Betty Cracker:
I think they’re saying “Who’s Tim?”
Splitting Image
@Betty Cracker:
His stated reason for running doesn’t have to make sense. Simply announcing that he is running will force the major news media to cover him, which allows them to repeat the message that the election was RIGGED, RIGGED, RIGGED and that Biden is OLD, OLD, OLD through the entire primary season.
Naturally the news media will be reluctant to bring up these issues over and over, but when even-members-of-his-own-party-are-saying “blah blah blah”….
Phillips will obviously be forced to talk about HUNTER BIDEN eventually, as soon as his
agentcampaign manager can get him booked on Fox News.SFAW
I didn’t click on it, but in that still from the Maher appearance, Phillips looks like DeathSantis. Maybe I need new glasses? Or is it DeathSantis? On the other hand, who cares?
Baud
@SFAW:
I want that on a jacket.
Betty Cracker
@Splitting Image: What does Phillips get out of all this? I’ve read that he’s obscenely rich, so maybe there’s a grift angle since so many obscenely wealthy people develop a mania for grabbing even more money. He sure isn’t going to affect the outcome of the election except in a negative way, and unless he’s stupid or deluded, he must know that.
SFAW
@Splitting Image:
I look forward to Comer’s committee investigating why Phillips’s dick pix appear on Hunter’s laptop.
ETA: Or is that not what you meant?
Matt McIrvin
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: “Teller” would be a fascinating and disturbing biopic– somebody probably already did it.
Princess
What does he get? Anyone who runs for president, including the ones we like, has an ego so massive it would blot out the sun. Phillips is surrounded
notwith staffers he pays to tell him he is the answer to all the problems of the free world. That’s what he gets.Matt McIrvin
@Betty Cracker: He’s got rich techbros supporting him, right? People get emotional validation from cult followings and some find the attention of the rich and powerful more flattering.
SFAW
@Matt McIrvin:
Kubrick.
Bruce K in ATH-GR
@TS: Give Tony Jay a little time here; I suspect he’s going to have to dig deep into the Royal Strategic Snark Reserve for appropriate commentary on that.
Matt McIrvin
@SFAW: Dr. Strangelove is a composite parody though–he was a Nazi like von Braun, not a victim of them.
Ken
I saw the headline “Also-Ran / Asterisk Candidates”, and the first tweet “Put them all on an island survivor style. Then drone it.”, and thought this was another post about the Republican debate.
Betty Cracker
@Geminid: I guess it was inevitable that other bad actors in the region would use the conflict to advance their aims. That’s one of many reasons it’s critical to end the incursion ASAP.
Was just reading a piece by Graeme Wood in The Atlantic about the endgame in Gaza if Israel succeeds in crushing Hamas. Blinken met with Mahmoud Abbas (87 years old! Biden is a spring chicken!) to gauge the Palestinian Authority’s interest in governing the strip in a post-Hamas scenario.
Abbas “didn’t say no,” according to Wood, but lots of locals don’t think the PA has the chops. Once again, I am glad I don’t have Biden’s job.
hueyplong
@Bruce K in ATH-GR: For sure. Beginning to wonder if the islands can currently produce a single politician above Replacement Value.
Splitting Image
@Betty Cracker:
Well, if Trump gets re-elected, he’ll get a tax cut, so there is that…
SFAW
@Matt McIrvin:
He was a combination of von Braun, Herman Kahn, and Teller.
KSinMA
Thanks, Albatrossity, these are beautiful.
oops, wrong thread!
WaterGirl
@Princess: Is the “not” in your last sentence supposed to be there?
Matt McIrvin
@SFAW: Yeah, in real life the Project Paperclip Nazis were more likely to be rocket guys; the bomb scientists were more likely to be European Jewish immigrants or their descendants. That has more to do with historical contingencies than anything else– the German atomic bomb project didn’t get very far, whereas their rocket program was ahead of everyone (not that it did them a lot of good– the V2 was technically amazing but not that strategically useful; the Americans got more advantage out of it after the war than Hitler ever did).
Tony Jay
@Bruce K in ATH-GR:
Well, now that you mention it….
A bit of UK News
In the least surprising personnel decision since Chris Chibnall was asked to fuck the fuck off out of the Doctor Who hotseat (and continue fucking off at breakneck speed until propelled far enough away from the solar system that he’d run out of of oxygen and heat and float frostily unmourned through the black immensity of Space, leaving both ‘fuck’ and ‘off’ free to journey on to Concept Heaven where they would feast happily forever in the Halls of Profanity singing ribald songs of how they were there when the existential threat of Chibbers setting finger to keyboard and making Doctor Who bad again was finally lifted) our unconvincing 3/5 scale model of a Prime Minister Rishi ‘Gossamer Balls’ Sunak has reshuffled his Cabinet of Fools and found within it no place for the MAGAesque vomit-socket that is former Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
I wrote about this briefly last week and over the weekend, but I don’t expect anyone to remember that so here it is in typically profuse précis.
Braverman is sort of what you’d get if you put Candace Williams and a little Nikki Haley dandruff into a malfunctioning teleportation pod with Sidney Powell and raised the resulting garbage spawn to think it was 1000% smarter than it actually was. A crappy lawyer with her eye on rapid progression through the Tory Party ranks by being THE brown best friend of every swing-jawed racist goon and trans-Atlantic ‘New Conservative’ thinktankachik with a victim to blame and an institution to undermine. She was made Attorney-General by Flobalob, Home Secretary by Lizard-Eye Truss and then restored to that post by Sunak after she was sacked by Truss for deliberately sharing confidential information via e-mail. Yes, Sunak gave one of the three great Offices of State back to someone that even The Lettuce That Crashed The Economy had to sack for malicious incompetence, that’s how politically weak and terrified of the Tory Faaaaaaar-Right Our Glorious Leader was on Day One of his awfully big misadventure, and he’s only lost vertebrae every day since then.
There’s a litany of Right-Populist bile out there with Braverman’s name on it for anyone who likes bathing in cess to look up if they want, from fingerbanging herself to sleep at night at the thought of expelling asylum seekers to Rwandan prison-camps to declaring homelessness to be a lifestyle-choice best dealt with by banning tents, but take it from me, if there’s a space in the schedule marked ‘Leave gobbet of rancid red-meat (pre-chewed) here for the Gammon Swarm to feast on’, you can guarantee it’s been filled in by a singy-songy girly-voiced rant by every decent person’s least favourite Hate Muppet. That’s literally all she’s ever done. Audition after audition after audition for the roll of Führerin of the British Far-Right, not so much moving the Overton Window right as kicking down its front door at three in the morning and dragging it past its screaming children into the back of an unmarked black Mercedes then driving as far to the right as possible to where await the cold-eyed professional convincers with their tools of metal and heat.
The thing is, she obviously wanted to be sacked by Sunak, everyone knows it. She can see as clearly as anyone else that the Tories are toxic and are going to lose badly in the next Election, and it would do her no good to go down with that ship or to be seen as following the rat exodus overboard closer to the day. No, she wanted out right now with a big, flashy-fashy act of victimitude, stabbed in the back by the unelected wooden spoon of Number 10 because she and she alone was ‘patriotic’ enough to “speak simple common-sense” on behalf of the Tory Party Base and its associated neo-fascist co-dependents. She couldn’t have made it more obvious if she’d walked up to Sunak and gouged chunks out of his smooth, featureless groin with a broken Stella Artois bottle screaming “England Prevails!!”, but this is Modern Britain, where the News Media isn’t there to inform as much as to provide a cheap venue for Le Théâtre Des Merde to act out their solo performance pieces for an audience of four or five disinterested foreign owners.
The plan was, I suppose, for Braverman to take advantage of the UK’s unsustainably skewed narrative regarding the Israel/Palestine issue (Question Israel = Hate Jews/Support Palestine = Pro-Holocaust) that was thrown together between 2016-19 to protect the country’s owners from paying mildly increased taxes that would fund much needed centre-left reforms (the absolute horror) in order to define herself as the only woman who would – if she was in charge – have had the stones to ban Saturday’s Pro-Peace March in London and have its organisers arrested, jailed and electro-punished for being smelly, Lefty tree terrorist-huggers. A month ago, that would have been fine and dandy, and she would probably have had the tacit backing of most of the Establishment, but the bloodstained reality getting kinetically blasted across the nation’s TV screens from Gaza has shredded that particular narrative like a pair of edible knickers at a Tom Jones concert, and the Tories (like their mirror-images in Nu-New Labour) just haven’t been able to keep up.
Her spewing bile on the proposed March just focussed attention on who, exactly, was lined up in opposition to it (the Right, the Hard-Right, the Far-Right, the Very Far-Right and the Gibbering Legions of Ryteefashynatzee, The Undying Thing Of Many Angles That Devours Innocent Souls) and then her nudge-nudge, wink-wink calls for Britain’s version of the Proud Boys to come down to the capital all tooled-up and bubbling with amphetamine courage in order to ‘protect the Cenotaph’ January 6th style (since the ‘Woke Police’ wouldn’t) ensured that the Metropolitan Police, usually the first in line to bash the brains out of the enemies of the status-quo, was left with no choice but to release a very firm and unyielding “No” to any calls for a ban.
Saturday couldn’t really have gone worse for Braverman and the ideology she represents. The Peace March went off smoothly. Hundreds of thousands of people from all races and religions filing through the streets of London expressing their very diverse opposition to Britain’s foreign policy folly in numbers not seen since Blair was burrowing his way up Bush the Lesser’s fundament, with only about 150 or so detained (but not charged) after the event for being over-excited pricks and a tiny handful (10 at last count) being picked out on social media for wearing or displaying pro-Hamas fuckery and/or shouting antisemitic shit. While over by the Cenotaph and in pubs and train stations nearby, hundreds of bulge-eyed wannabe brownshirts were shown on film charging Police lines, screaming racist insults and generally acting like the rabid pond-scum they are.
Holy PR Balls-Up, Batman!
In the aftermath and up until this morning Braverman and the usual suspects in the Press tried to fight a rearguard action against unwelcome reality. Condemning the entire March as a ‘vile celebration of hatred’, threatening after-the-fact investigations to ‘find the perpetrators’ and generally trying to draw an equivalence between the far-Right mob violence against the Police they’d encouraged and half a million plus people saying they’d rather that their Government didn’t aid and abet the slaughter of children, thanks very much. Meanwhile the professional outrage feeders like the Campaign Against Antisemitism and certain really vile TV celebrities were reduced to accusing the Police of “letting Britain’s Jews down” by not banning the March. Weak sauce.
So, come this morning, Sunak held a hasty reshuffle of his Cabinet and, lo and behold, Braverman is out. It says absolutely everything that needs to be said about how terrible Sunak is at everything to do with politics that he waited to do it until after the significance of him booting Braverman was drained away by inaction and the fiction of it being just another unconnected bureaucratic move to ‘freshen up his team’.
Lying about why he did it won’t make the Tory Right despise him less, it won’t stop Braverman monetising her getting the sack by going on GB News and whining about the betrayal, and it certainly won’t win him any plaudits from outside the Right Wing bubble where the time to show strength and punish her for openly defying him and openly promoting mob violence was BEFORE THIS MORNING’S PANICKED RESHUFFLE YOU HOLLOW VESSEL OF LAQUER AND VARNISH!!!
And then he brings back David ‘Mister Luvva Luvva Ham’ Cameron to be Foreign Secretary. For fucks sake! The man who brought us Austerity and Brexit before wandering off into the mists of nowhere like a third act extra in a Julian Fellows film about privileged toffs being splendidly normal chaps. All that tells everyone is that the Tory cupboard is entirely bare, and the Civil War ignited by Cameron’s cowardly decision to put an EU Referendum in the Tory manifesto is well and truly on.
This is Britain. What a state we’re in.
Betty Cracker
It’s a chilly, damp, foggy morning here in the swamp. I’m tempted to shut the windows and turn on the heat, but it’s supposed to get into the mid-70s by afternoon, so I’m toughing it out.
Gin & Tonic
@Betty Cracker: Chilly? It was 21 when I went out to walk the dog this morning.
Geminid
@Gin & Tonic: Did you catch Gabe Amo yesterday on MSNBC? I’m wondering how he did. I don’t usually mess with YouTube, but I might catch a snippet; I’ve yet to hear the Congressman-elect speak.
Geminid
@Tony Jay: A Land of Nope and Tory.
Betty Cracker
@Tony Jay:
LOL! That’s a keeper.
ETA: I looked Braverman up on Wikipedia to find monster origin story clues and learned that she was named after fictional character Sue Ellen Ewing, wife of JR in the 1970s-80s U.S. soap “Dallas.” Yep, that would do it.
Princess
@WaterGirl: indeed the not should not be there. And “by staffers” would be better.
Betty Cracker
@Gin & Tonic: My dogs and I would declare a state of emergency if it were that cold — no walks, but we’d accept aid in the form of heated containers of beef bourguignon.
RevRick
Third parties are stupid. Even if their candidate won, then what? They’d face a Congress of Ds and Rs who would say FU. To get anything done, they’d have to align with one of the parties, and then what was the point?
Third parties are a formula for utter failure.
Tony Jay
@Betty Cracker:
I know, she’s a fucking joy isn’t she?
I’m going to drop this rant into the open thread upstairs, if that’s okay with everyone. I’m not boiling this much piss and leaving it to simmer down in a dead thread. I want everyone to know how much I despise these people. 8-)
Anyway
@Betty Cracker:
I thought you went “vege”
mmmm beef bourguignon
Gin & Tonic
@Geminid: I didn’t. Busy day yesterday on a home project that my dear wife roped me into.
Geminid
@Gin & Tonic: We’ll get plenty more chances to see Rep. Amo.
Bupalos
@Rusty: RFK is an insane lump of grifting privilege….but personally I don’t see what the issue is with going barefoot there.
Bupalos
I hope no one is putting too much value on this, because I think we’re in an era where it tends more often to be less than zero. There are times when incumbency is an encumberance.
Which is not to say you ever throw your hope in with a nothingburger like Phillips running on a platform of “the midpoint between reality and the last thing Donald Trump said.” Or indeed that you really can switch out of an incumbent that doesn’t want to step aside without massive electoral damage.
Keithly
@Tony Jay:
Braverman, Suella,
Was sacked for talking rot.
She was not afraid to lie
Oh, brave Suella.
She was not at all afraid
To be slagged in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Suella!
Bill Arnold
@SFAW:
More Herman Kahn than Teller, IMO.
ETA saw your comment that Wernher von Braun was in the mix, too. Yup.
Chris Johnson
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Russians are indeed really desperate. Not exactly surprising. Just keep an eye on the context of all of this, which is manifestations of Russian desperation as they can’t seal the deal on Ukraine.
Tony Jay
@Keithly:
Ha! Nice.
Miss Bianca
@RevRick:
RIGHT?? This is the point that I can never understand why “third party voters” can’t grok – even in the fantastically unlikely event that your guy/gal gets elected, WHAT THEN?
The Lodger
@TS: If Cameron is now a peer, doesn’t that disqualify him from being in the House of Commons? (And what was going on with Tony Benn anyway?)
artem1s
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
She must have finally used up the $7.3M in recount money that she didn’t use to conduct recounts.
Tony Jay
@The Lodger:
Yup, but you can be in the Government as a Peer sitting in The Lords, since that’s still Parliament.
Tony Benn gave up his hereditary peerdom because he was a proper Socialist and had no time for that rubbish. Another thing for which his pinch-faced shame of a son has never forgiven him.
artem1s
@Miss Bianca:
they are almost always the ones that claim voting doesn’t matter. until they glom on some 3rd party grifter, then suddenly their ONE vote is going to TEACH THE DEMS A LESSON about how valuable their vote is. It’s infuriating.
Paul in KY
@Tony Jay: Thank you for that recap, Tony!
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Matt McIrvin: “Teller” – produced and directed by Penn Jillette
The Lodger
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Great cinematography. Lousy dialogue.
Tony Jay
@Paul in KY:
Always a pleasure, PIKY