Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

This country desperately needs a functioning Fourth Estate.

The arc of the moral universe doesn’t bend itself. it’s up to us.

Putin must be throwing ketchup at the walls.

We know you aren’t a Democrat but since you seem confused let me help you.

I desperately hope that, yet again, I am wrong.

Many life forms that would benefit from greater intelligence, sadly, do not have it.

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

“woke” is the new caravan.

So many bastards, so little time.

Democrats have delivered the Square Deal, the New Deal, the Fair Deal, and now… the Big Joe Biden Deal.

You’re just a puppy masquerading as an old coot.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.

The problem people have with Biden’s age is the color of the VPs skin.

No Justins, No Peace

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

Found liable for massive fraud, is required to post a massive bond, gets a break, then files a *fraudulent* bond!

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When do we not have legal news lately?

This does not appear to be good news for the good guys.  But I trust Judge Chutkan, so she must feel that this is what she needs to do in order to cross all the “T”s and dot all the Is.  “I”s.  I wonder if this is the same ruling she would have made if Jack Smith hadn’t petitioned the Supreme Court.

As a general rule, when a lot of critical things are in flux, it’s never a bad thing to hold tight.

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Supreme Court agrees to review a case (not the Jack Smith Jan 6 case) related to obstruction of an official proceeding.

I don’t feel like I can begin to explain this case, but Harry Litman an explain it to you if you have 7 minutes.

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I am filing this under WTF?

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  2. 2.

    Trivia Man

    Thanks, everyone for the new judge in Wisconsin. Hope it’s enough to shut down the next attempts at fake elector shenanigans.

  3. 3.

    Trivia Man

    Is this one  Of those who gave a pinky swear not to be an elector again? Can we force recusal for an decision involving Cheeto?

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    @Trivia Man: I don’t recall which state made that a part of the settlement.  It was a civil case, though, brought by the real electors, so that should narrow it down pretty well.

    I am getting ready for company for dinner, so I don’t have time to google right now, but maybe one of you guys will have time!

  5. 5.

    Scout211

    I’m confused with all these filings and rulings and responses. Which one of these rulings/filings mentioned above have to do with the Trump team’s filing today calling Jack Smith a grinch for spoiling their holiday plans? The Mueller She Wrote tweet?

  7. 7.

    WaterGirl

    @Scout211: Since they are talking about opposing the fast-tracking of the immunity fight, I would say that this was in reference to the Jack Smith petition for the Supreme Court to pick up the immunity case.

    Trump’s response to the Jack Smith’s response was due today at 5 pm eastern, so that fits with the timeline, too.

  10. 10.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: Thanks.  I found it on  NBC News as an addition to the original news story that I posted downstairs.  (The Jack Smith is a meanie old Grinch filing from the Trump team).

    Prosecutors filed their response to Trump’s legal arguments Wednesday and suggested Trump’s attorneys had their math wrong, saying their filing would be due Dec. 23, not Dec. 26. “In any event, the public’s need for a speedy resolution of these important legal issues take precedence over personal scheduling issues,” prosecutors wrote.

    They did not mention Trump’s holiday jab.

    . . .

    Smith’s filing Wednesday argued that time is of the essence. He said because Trump is appealing U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan’s ruling finding that he’s not entitled to immunity, trial proceedings are suspended until the appeal is resolved.

    “Expediting the appeal in this case is necessary to vindicate the public’s interest in a timely trial,” Smith’s team contended, and would not prevent “the parties from giving the issues on appeal due consideration.”

  11. 11.

    Old School

    @Trivia Man:

    Is this one  Of those who gave a pinky swear not to be an elector again?

    Yes.

    Spindell and other nine fake electors conceded in a legal settlement last week that Biden had won the state and agreed to not serve as electors in next year’s election or in any in which Trump is running. They also agreed that their actions were “part of an attempt to improperly overturn the 2020 presidential election results.”

    But they also avoided paying any damages and didn’t accept any liability or admit any wrongdoing for their actions.

    “The civil settlement explicitly states that the plaintiffs acknowledge that the defendants, including Commissioner Spindell, admit no guilt or culpability,” LeMahieu said. “Liberal groups sought millions of dollars in court, and instead walked away with nothing. The Trump electors’ actions were an effort to support an ultimately-failed legal strategy. Not a sinister plot to overturn an election.”

  12. 12.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    “Who gives a fuck about the Christmas stuff” ~ Melonie Trump

  14. 14.

    Scout211

    @WaterGirl: but the grinch comment does not sound very lawyer-like!

    Trump team filing:  NBC

    In the filing, Trump’s attorneys said that signing off on Smith’s proposed schedule “would make President Trump’s opening brief due the day after Christmas. This proposed schedule would require attorneys and support staff to work round-the-clock through the holidays, inevitably disrupting family and travel plans. It is as if the Special Counsel ‘growled, with his Grinch fingers nervously drumming, “I must find some way to keep Christmas from coming. … But how?”'”

    That’s a reference to Dr. Seuss’ classic “How the Grinch Stole Christmas,” about a character with a heart two sizes too small who hates the whole Christmas season and plots to sabotage the holiday.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    @Trivia Man: So they agreed not to be electors in 2024 or in any election involving Trump.

    But the fine print didn’t say they couldn’t serve on the Wisconsin State Elections Commission?

    All i can think of to say are things the nuns in grade school said we would go to hell for saying.

  18. 18.

    Old School

    I see the Dow Jones closed at an all-time high today – breaking 37,000 for the first time.

    When is Biden going to do something about this horrible economy?!?!

  22. 22.

    Jeffro

    @Old School: blasting that far and wide, and rubbing many, MANY noses in it ;)

    “wasn’t there some sort of, oh, ‘Inflation Reduction Act’ or something a year or so ago?  whose idea was that again?  who voted against it, again?  hmmm….”

    LOLOL

  23. 23.

    Jeffro

    Back to the legal thing…isn’t it just amazing that Mr. Innocent wants to delay his moment of COMPLETE VINDICATION so far into the future?

    Why, you’d think he would want his various trials to take place next week!!  I mean, why waste his valuable time and money like this, since he’s, well, soooooo innocent?  Totally.

  24. 24.

    Doc Sardonic

    Since a lot of pets do not particularly care for the vacuum cleaner, especially the small handhelds, maybe they should change the tagline to Groom, Suck, Go to ER. However we did have one cat that liked to be vacuumed, and would get insulted if you didn’t get the little dusting brush attachment and give her a good vacuuming.

  29. 29.

    Suzanne

    @Doc Sardonic: My dearly departed Luna used to attack the vacuum cleaner. My big scary black dog, never attacked a single person or other animal. Nor any other household implements.

  31. 31.

    Kelly

    @Doc Sardonic: Had a cat that loved the vacuum 40+ years ago. Same thing with the brush attachment. Our current cats stay as far as possible from the running vacuum cleaner, fleeing from room to room as necessary.

  32. 32.

    NobodySpecial

    This does not appear to be good news for the good guys.  But I trust Judge Chutkan, so she must feel that this is what she needs to do in order to cross all the “T”s and dot all the “I”s.  I wonder if this is the same ruling she would have made if Jack Smith hadn’t petitioned the Supreme Court.

    Rulings like these are perfect for a judge who wants to nail someone to a wall without any way to wiggle out and doesn’t care if the remedy is served cold.

  33. 33.

    New Deal democrat

    @Old School:

    I see the Dow Jones closed at an all-time high today

    The Fed strongly suggested that they were done raising rates, and are likely to make 3 rate *cuts* in 2024.

     

    And yes, that is good news for Biden.

  34. 34.

    BR

    @New Deal democrat: ​
    On the flip side, whenever I see a mention of the stock market here, whether because of highs or lows, I take that to be a contrary indicator at least in the short term.

  35. 35.

    Another Scott

    @Scout211:

    Meanwhile, … PetaPixel.com:

    Photographers have been warned about doing Grinch-themed photo shoots over the holidays due to “serious trademark infringement issues.”

    Alongside traditional Santa photo sessions, Grinch-themed shoots are also popular among photographers during the Christmas period. However, photographers could allegedly risk being sued over this by Dr. Seuss Enterprises.

    […]

    Hmmm…

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  36. 36.

    New Deal democrat

    @BR: To be clear, the “good news for Biden” is if there are Fed rate cuts, not whatever gyrations the stock market undertakes.

  40. 40.

    eclare

    I signed up for my 2024 ACA plan today, I’ve used the marketplace for several years. My plan cost increased about $10 per month after the subsidy.  Thanks Obama!  And Nancy!  And Harry!

  43. 43.

    hrprogressive

    Why the fuck is the attempt to commit a Coup and seize power being described as “controversial”?

    Who thinks there is “controversy” about this, and why do they think it is anything other than “an abject horror for which justice should be brought and further attempts prevented at all cost”?

    Re – Wisconsin elector story

  44. 44.

    oldgold

    What annoys me about this is that the immunity and double jeopardy  arguments are pure BS. The Constitution is clear that impeachment is not the only remedy for crimes committed by a President and that there is no double jeopardy bar created by the impeachment process.

    The last paragraph of Section 3 of Article I of the Constitution provides:

    “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”

  46. 46.

    Kay

    Florida women denied health care. This is coverage that will reach older normie women (they vote):

    For Cook — who was just over 15 weeks pregnant, early in her second trimester — that meant her options for medical care were limited. According to Florida’s ban, she wasn’t sick enough — yet — to qualify for induced labor, even though her doctor all but guaranteed she would be soon enough.
    “[The doctor] told me in that very moment that you can get an infection, possibly sepsis and die,” Cook said. “All I’m thinking is, ‘Well I’m at the hospital, right? I’m okay. I won’t die because I’m at the hospital.’”
    She continued: “I looked at my husband and that’s when reality hit me, because he’s looking at me and he’s saying, ‘No, babe. I don’t think you’re understanding what the doctor is saying.’”
    Because Cook’s life wasn’t immediately in danger, she didn’t qualify for an emergency exception to the abortion rule. She was discharged with antibiotics and told to return if her symptoms — pelvic pain and bleeding — worsened.
    “The nurse asked if she could pray for me,” Cook said. “All I knew was that I was not going to survive what was happening.”
    ABC News anchor Diane Sawyer and senior congressional correspondent Rachel Scott spoke to Cook and 17 other women in ten states for the special report on how restrictive abortion laws are negatively impacting women and their health. Several women experienced severe health consequences — and others fled to states without the restrictive laws, spending their life savings to get emergency abortions.

  47. 47.

    RaflW

    I’m sure Brian Allen was snarking about the “secret” community thing, but I don’t see how that helps.

    This is naked, totally unsecret corruption. There could be no doubt that Robin Vos is involved.

  48. 48.

    BR

    @New Deal democrat: ​
    I agree. I just meant in the past when I’ve seen political blogs start talking about the stock market, it’s usually a sign of a trend change. (I remember you writing as much about comments made by Digby back in the day.)

  50. 50.

    RaflW

    @Old School: Good gracious. Sh*t like this makes me want the Democrats to just go hog wild in redistricting New York. Push it to the very edges the Supremes seem to think are ok.

    And yes, I know WI & NY are different places, but the Republicans play dirty everywhere. We can at least skate right to the very edge of clean.

  52. 52.

    New Deal democrat

    @BR: Thanks.

    Better than that, I once called a stock market bottom *in real time* when a Doomer at the Orange Place posted a triumphalist diary!

  53. 53.

    Redshift

    This does not appear to be good news for the good guys.

    Based on my vast expertise from listening to Preet Bharara, it’s not a big deal. Since the appeal on immunity, if successful, would dismiss the entire case, it’s pretty normal to pause any action that requires the defendant to do anything (i.e., anything that requires paying lawyers.) The government was asking to only proceed with things they could do on their own, like producing discovery material, and motions already pending. So it’s not a big loss, and probably worth it to have less chance of an appeal succeeding.

  54. 54.

    RaflW

    @sab: Oh. Well I was going to say that our Std American Eskimo would shrink by half when he got wet he was such a furball, but I see now, decades later, that he was German and not related to Huskies or anything frozen North American! Rather a Spitz offshoot.

    I’m trying to think how we’d have said Fairbanks will a thick-fake German accent.

  55. 55.

    Redshift

    @oldgold: The double jeopardy appeal is complete BS, yes. The “absolute immunity” one apparently isn’t, only because the courts have never ruled in it. It’s not likely to succeed, but it’s not unreasonable for defense lawyers to try it.

  56. 56.

    Scout211

    @Kay: Florida is one of the nine states working to get a ballot initiative expanding abortion rights for 2024.  Link

    With the help of many registered Republicans, they are close to getting enough signatures by the February 1 deadline.

    Women are concerned about what’s happening with our bodies and our right to choose. And there’s a lot of people that you wouldn’t think would be the pro-choice advocates, but they are,” she said. “And the government overreach, it’s huge right now.”

    Carter is one of more than 150,000 registered Republican voters who have signed a petition in support of a ballot amendment that would bar the state from restricting abortion “before viability” — which is usually at 24 weeks — or “when necessary to protect the patient’s health.”

    That total comes from the Florida Women’s Freedom Coalition, one of several groups working to gather the 891,523 signatures necessary to get the measure on the ballot, working with Floridians Protecting Freedom, the campaign leading the ballot initiative. The group says it has gathered and submitted more than 1.3 million signatures so far. The website of the Florida Division of Elections says it has validated 687,699 signatures as of mid-December.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    @BR:

    Have we been talking about the stock market though? Someone just noted that it reached an all-time high, which is not an indicator of an economy in shambles, as the media would portray.  No one here is following the market day to day.

  60. 60.

    Kay

    @Baud:

    I get Gov Whitmer’s social media on Threads and every time she (or her employee) write about abortion they say “Donald Trump overturned Roe” somewhere in the message.

    She knows how fucking stupid people are. You have to hit them over the head.

  62. 62.

    RaflW

    House Republicans vote in a solid bloc to formalize the Biden bullshit*t impeachment.

    Time to roast the 18 jagoffs in Biden-won districts. Just infuriatingly stupid and destructive.

  63. 63.

    Captain C

    @Redshift: Supreme Court:  Presidents have absolute immunity for everything.

    Biden:  *licks chops*  Oh, really…

    Two days later:  The house passes an excellent budget, including a shitload of Ukraine aid, 212-0, and the Senate does the same 49-2 (Manchin and Umbridge voting no), and pretty much the entire rest of the Biden agenda.

    Two days after that:  The Supreme Court, in a series of 3-0 votes, overturns all the Republican nonsense that the court has put through over the last several decades, except the case that has allowed Biden to have every Republican congresscritter and Supreme Court Justice summarily arrested and stashed on an iceberg near Antarctica, guarded by a couple Navy destroyers.  Trump, meanwhile, is preparing to be the slug in a new railgun test, while a chorus of volunteers takes turns telling him how much Ivanka hates his guts.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    @Kay:

    Florida women denied health care. This is coverage that will reach older normie women (they vote)

    This was always one of the consequences of restrictions on abortion. And many men and women who oppose abortion accept this. They will dismiss the best available medical advice and instead depend on prayer and “God’s will.”

    The tragedy is that they seek to force all other women to submit to religious ignorance, even to the point of forcing doctors to lie to their patients.

  66. 66.

    oldgold

    @Redshift:  I do not think so. If there is immunity, the provision I cited makes no sense. Plus, the the idea the President is immune is antithetical to the entire construct of the Constitution.

  67. 67.

    RaflW

    NYT actually writes a social media post (Bsky) that didn’t make me blow my stack:

    Breaking News: The House approved an impeachment inquiry into President Biden, as the GOP pushes ahead with a yearlong investigation that has turned up no evidence of wrongdoing.

  73. 73.

    Mallard Filmore

    @Kay: 

    Because Cook’s life wasn’t immediately in danger,

    She would not die before the current shift ends.

  77. 77.

    Mallard Filmore

    @Brachiator: 

    They will dismiss the best available medical advice and instead depend on prayer and “God’s will.”

    How odd that they don’t go with “God’s will” when they get tuberculosis.

  78. 78.

    Martin

    @Baud: Some of us are. But I don’t think the market is particularly relevant to the economic concerns. The upper half of society isn’t struggling. They’re pulling away. 

    The problem is the bottom half. Not poor people – god no – nobody cares about them. But the kids of the upper half who are just getting going – many of whose parents thought they did everything right – got them to college, they got jobs, and they’re struggling with bananas rent increases or homes out of reach, or their ‘good’ jobs are getting them jerked around with random downsizing or job replacement by AI, permanent positions replaced by contract, etc.

    At least some of the perceived job growth is fake – at least on the listings side. A lot of employers are posting job listings they have no intention of filling – but if they get a superstar in the pool, they’ll recruit them.

  81. 81.

    Baud

    @Martin:

     

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I should have said “talking about,” not “following.” I haven’t noticed much discussion of it.

    Anyway, I’m of the view that high stock market and low unemployment are good things.  But I realize I’m in the minority.

  85. 85.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @oldgold: While I agree with you on the proper end result of the immunity claims, it is not insane for defense counsel to give it a shot.  “The horse might learn to sing.”

  87. 87.

    Kay

    I’m of the view that high stock market and low unemployment are good things. But I realize I’m in the minority.

    Lol we were never in the minority until about 2017 when everyone else lost their minds :)

  89. 89.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @Baud: The pantsless often are.  In this case though, I agree with you.  No economy is good for all people.  There are people who are going through rough times.  If people are waiting for that to say the economy is good, they will wait forever.

  90. 90.

    Kay

    jvlast
    2h
    Inflation is gone, mortgage rates are down and 401k’s are booming. But three university presidents are why this Midwestern independent says he’s voting for Trump…

  95. 95.

    Another Scott

    @Martin:

    From the CBS story:

    According to Volberg, over-listing jobs is most common in New York and Los Angeles, and for jobs in engineering, sales or customer-service positions.

    (Emphasis added.)

    Back in the neolithic when I was job hunting, in the late 1980s, if I responded to an employment ad, my inquiries would get a postcard back, if I was lucky, saying they’d keep my resume on file for a year. AFAIK, and the story doesn’t seem to provide more than anecdotes, only the ease of spreading ads everywhere is new – not them advertising for jobs that they won’t be filling anytime soon. I would ass-u-me that the folks at the Treasury and the Fed are smart enough to know that 20 identical ads for the same position don’t mean there are 20 openings that will be filled…

    (The CBS story reads to me like an attempt at edgy contrarianism rather than attempt to inform. YMMV.)

    Advertised job openings have been at historically high levels for a long time. Here’s why that’s bad news for Joe Biden… – DougJBalloon, probably.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  97. 97.

    cain

    @Kathleen: Imagine if it was the same media back in WW2 – “Hitler beaten back, bad news for Truman”.

    We should do some retro pitchbot – tweets.

    “In this, Ohio diner – discussion over the latest war news indicate that while everyone agrees the war is going well, they still aren’t sure about Truman.”

  98. 98.

    Kathleen

    @cain: That would be funny! “Don’t guiltmail  me into voting for Jesus over Barabbas because Jesus will be crucified if he loses. He has to earn my vote”.

  99. 99.

    MobiusKlein

    @Another Scott:

      Some amount of those ads / openings are there because we have to open a position if folks want a green card.
    I have somebody on my work team in that position. Here on an educational visa, which includes a built in ‘you can work in the US for X years’ part.
    Now he would like to keep working here, so… we need to grind thru the system.

  100. 100.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishments☘🌈 Koch

    @cain: On D-Day, the WSJ wrote on their front page the success meant the war would end soon and end wage controls, which would eat into corporate profits.

  101. 101.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @Martin:

    got them to college, they got jobs, and they’re struggling with bananas rent increases or homes out of reach, or their ‘good’ jobs are getting them jerked around with random downsizing or job replacement by AI, permanent positions replaced by contract, etc.

    I thought this new AI tech was a nothingburger and that it was no different than technological advancements of the past that made people’s jobs/skills obsolete. Is that not true?

  104. 104.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    @cain:

    Holy shit, so much to unpack.

    “My kids call me a dictator….”

    “He said he’d only do it for a day”

    That woman, who has to hide behind a pseudonym (Sue), literally compared a hypothetical Trump dictatorship to parents being firm to children to clean up the house

    ETA:

    The first guy from Tom’s screenshot: “That’s not what Trump really meant, but actually that wouldn’t be so bad because we need someone who will ‘move forward fast’ to clean everything up, and actually Biden is a dictator because he doesn’t do what I want him to do”

    Do you ever notice that with Republicans/conservatives, as in rank and file voters, that if you criticize Trump/any Republican for anything they always try to make a false equivalence with something a Dem did? Like, even if it were true, I’d still think it was wrong if a Dem did something wrong. It’s like they don’t get that and just want to swipe at you

  105. 105.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishments☘🌈 Koch

    @cain:

    “A British physicist [Patrick Blackett] is saying the atomic bombings were not the last act of World War II, but the first act of this cold war with Russia.”

     

    Now he was right, but he could have celebrated V-J for a couple of minutes before pouring a bottle of Doom.

  108. 108.

    Jackie

    Interesting!

    Four hours after testimony wrapped in the civil fraud trial against Donald Trump and the Trump Organization, the lower Manhattan courthouse was evacuated after someone set papers on fire, then pulled and used multiple fire extinguishers on the same floor as the courtroom.

    The judge in the case, New York Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, was in his robing room when he heard shouting on the floor, and was safely escorted out of the courthouse.

    The judge was unaware of any specific personal threat at the time he evacuated.

    Two courthouse officials told Business Insider that the evacuation was prompted by a man creating a small fire by igniting paperwork, and then setting off two or more fire extinguishers. The man, who was not identified and was not a courthouse employee, was arrested, they said.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/manhattan-courthouse-evacuated-donald-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-trial-2023-12

    The person arrested wasn’t TIFG – as he is currently in Iowa bellyaching about Jack Smith.

  109. 109.

    Eric S.

    @Omnes Omnibus: Not at all the same but in my programming days I’d use famous quotes in my code comments. I was particularly proud of adapting the old Energizer (?) batter commercial, “I dare you to knock this batter off my shoulder” for a warning message.

  110. 110.

    Matt McIrvin

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishments☘🌈 Koch: Blackett was an interesting guy–the first person to demonstrate nuclear transmutation of elements.

    He proposed a correlation (which turned out to be spurious) between an object’s mass, rate of rotation and magnetic field that the science-fiction writer James Blish turned into a mechanism for antigravity in his “Cities in Flight” series. Blish liked throwing Blackett’s name around, along with Paul Dirac’s.

  113. 113.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    It is true, but NFTs were valueless garbage and the Metaverse was going nowhere.  That didn’t stop a lot of executives from wasting vast amounts of resources on them before the truth finally bludgeoned its way home.  They want so badly to fire a bunch of people that they may not wait to find out that no, AI can’t do those people’s jobs.

  114. 114.

    Martin

    @Baud: I’m not saying they aren’t good things. I’m saying that they’re only a tiny reflection of the economy – and the market is generally irrelevant to low income people.

  116. 116.

    wjca

    @Frankensteinbeck: They want so badly to fire a bunch of people that they may not wait to find out that no, AI can’t do those people’s jobs.

    As Musk is currently demonstrating, sacking a bunch of people can be extremely effecting . . . if your goal is to trash the value of your company.  With careful application, you can sach the value all the way to zero.

  117. 117.

    wjca

    effecting => effective

    Autocorrect is amazing sometimes.  And regularly reminds me of how far AI is from being ready for prime time.

  120. 120.

    Rebel's Dad

    I’m so scattered lately that I don’t remember if I’ve even showered today. How tf can Trump keep up with FOUR lawsuits? Normally each case would have a bevy of stellar attorneys so all he’d have to do is sign the checks, but we all know it’s tie game of who’s the biggest stupid? with the lawyers and Trump.

    If he was even a halfway-decent person, I’d be in awe. But instead I feel bamboozled and lightheaded just trying to keep up with his tonterías. 

  122. 122.

    Paul in KY

    @Kathleen: “Sure Jesus seems to be the son of God & can change water into wine and raise people from the dead, but Barabbas steals from the Romans!”

  123. 123.

    H-Bob

    @RaflW: We had a miniature American Eskimo and it was a Spitz dog.  “American Eskimo” was the name of the breeder/kennel that introduced them.

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