Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

It’s a new day. Light all those Biden polls of young people on fire and throw away the ashes.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Bad people in a position to do bad things will do bad things because they are bad people. End of story.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

Cole, when it comes to calico cats, restraint is overrated.

“Let’s not pretend [Trump] wants to engage in high-minded discourse.”

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

Republican speaker of the house Mike Johnson is the bland and smiling face of evil.

Somebody needs to explain to DeSantis that nobody needs to do anything to make him look bad.

We’re not going back!

Washington Post’s Catch and Kill, not noticeably better than the Enquirer’s.

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

This country desperately needs a functioning Fourth Estate.

How any woman could possibly vote for this smug smarmy piece of misogynistic crap is beyond understanding.

Elections aren’t won by handwringing, cowering, and/or bashing your own candidates.

Please don’t feed the bears.

It’s not hopeless, and we’re not helpless.

One of our two political parties is a cult whose leader admires Vladimir Putin.

A lot of Dems talk about what the media tells them to talk about. Not helpful.

So it was an October Surprise A Day, like an Advent calendar but for crime.

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Some Fun After the Massacre Today (hopefully) at the Appeals Court

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  4. 4.

    Mike in NC

    It appears that this country has an inexhaustible supply of unethical scumbag lawyers willing to degrade themselves in service to Orange Hitler.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    Gabriel Attal, the 34-year-old French education minister, has been named the country’s new prime minister, a history-making appointment by President Emmanuel Macron as he looks to jumpstart his government’s flagging popularity.

     

    Attal will be France’s youngest-ever prime minister and the first openly gay man to serve in the post – making him one of the world’s most prominent and powerful LGBTQ politicians.

  8. 8.

    Scout211

    @bbleh:

    Can they come up with an opinion that all 3 will sign on to?  Ima say yes.

    I hope you are right.  And I hope the opinion is so clearly and precisely written that SCOTUS can easily say, “Nope!” to hearing an appeal.  (After the full appellate panel also says, “Nope!” to a full panel review).

  9. 9.

    Jeffro

    I still want to know why Dark Brandon didn’t jump on this BS argument IMMEDIATELY and have Seal Team Six show up outside the courtroom, looking impatient as all hell.

  11. 11.

    WaterGirl

    @Baud: I would think a conservative justice would have a problem with a President who wants to be able to order an assassination of a political adversary using Seal Team Six to do the deed.

    And with total immunity!

  12. 12.

    prostratedragon

    @Jeffro:  You know, I can almost imagine him actually doing that.

    Had the stream on before I drifted into a long nap; sounded like the first TFG lawyer had been sticken with glossolalia.

  14. 14.

    coin operated

    @Jeffro: No…I want ST6 sitting on the steps of the Supreme Court. They’re playing politics…they’re now ‘political opponents’ and can be put on the target priority list.

  15. 15.

    Scout211

    Since this is also an open thread, I just want you all to know that

    Meghan McCain says her family did not give permission for her father’s story to be turned into a new musical.
    On Tuesday, it was announced that the new show, The Ghost of John McCain, would be holding its first staged reading on Jan. 11.

     

    Written by Scott Elmegreen and scored by Drew Fornarola, the musical portrays the late senator and Vietnam War veteran as he returns from the afterlife only to find himself stuck in former President Donald Trump’s head.
    According to a press release, the characters in the musical include John McCain, Donald Trump, Donald Trump’s brain, Lindsey Graham, Hillary Clinton and other major American political figures.

    Ken Marks will take on the role of McCain, alongside Hudson Loverro as Trump, Major Attaway as Trump’s brain and others, Ann Harada as Karen and others, Andrew Polk as Graham and others and Angie Schworer as Clinton and others.

    LOL.  Wow.

  25. 25.

    Anoniminous

    @Scout211:

    Meghan McCain says her family did not give permission for her father’s story to be turned into a new musical.

    The over-wrought sense of entitlement is strong with this one.

  26. 26.

    David ⛄ 🎅The Establishment🎄 🦌 🕎 Koch

    show stopping number of McCain the Musical:

    Don’t cry for me, Village Media
    The truth is, I never left you
    All through my wild days, my mad existence
    I kept my promise
    Don’t keep your distance

    It’s a shame Stubby Kaye is no longer with us, he would been a perfect Paulie Walnuts

  27. 27.

    Elizabelle

    This more properly belongs on the previous thread.  Jeffro brought up a FTF NY Times Editorial Board op ed from January 6.  Entitled “A Warning About Donald Trump and 2024.”  Interestingly, the word “Biden” never comes up.  (Gift link.)

    And:  we are not the only jackals out there.  Second most liked reader comment, with 3,561 likes as of 5:23 pm on this stormy day.

    To the Editorial Board, I express my gratitude for this piece. But I find myself needing to say that the Times’ has been part of the problem of Trump’s ascendency. You see, my friends, every day this fine newspaper has sensationalized the Trump paradigm. He has been front page news relentlessly. Juxtaposed with him has been the proverbial hair splitting of the Biden presidency, his age, and his personal demeanor. So, as a consequence Trump followers have become more determined to support him while downright depressing and discouraging Biden supporters. This was done to Hillary Clinton, and I fear it is happening again to Biden. To the Times, Know Thyself, please.

    Know thy fucking selves,  NY Times.

    Editorial ends:

    Re-electing Mr. Trump would present serious dangers to our Republic and to the world. This is a time not to sit out but instead to re-engage. We appeal to Americans to set aside their political differences, grievances and party affiliations and to contemplate — as families, as parishes, as councils and clubs and as individuals — the real magnitude of the choice they will make in November.

    Of course, they don’t so much as mention “Biden.”  So.  Go to it, America!

  28. 28.

    Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony

    @Mike in NC:

    It appears that this country has an inexhaustible supply of unethical scumbag lawyers willing to degrade themselves in service to Orange Hitler as long as they are paid big money in advance.

    Fixed it for you.

  29. 29.

    Redshift

    @Baud:

    Henderson is pretty conservative.

    Yeah, but which kind? Unlike pretty much every other arena (elected officials, the media) there are still judges who are conservative about the law (not friendly to radical interpretations) rather than partisan conservatives.

  30. 30.

    smith

    @Elizabelle: When the time comes to make an endorsement, the pain of FTFNYT editors will be palpable when they reluctantly whisper the word “Biden.”

  32. 32.

    Jeffro

    @Elizabelle: thanks for the note!  I was shocked that they didn’t note themselves how shocking it was.

    “We have decided to weigh in before the candidates of both major parties have been selected, and GOP, you cannot choose trumpov.”

    (knowing they did it to try, however faintly, to put their thumb on the scale for DeSantis or Haley in the primaries doesn’t change the fact that it’s extraordinary.)

    (and they should acknowledge that, too!)

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    @smith: I had to shorten it a bit to fit as a rotating tag:

    When the time comes to make an endorsement, the pain of NYT editors will be palpable as they reluctantly whisper “Biden.”

  36. 36.

    Barbara

    @Anoniminous: Well, I can see the family saying that they aren’t part of the production, etc., just because they might be receiving questions about it.  Meghan McCain obviously has a rather proprietary view towards her father’s legacy that definitely crosses the line of silliness.

  37. 37.

    bbleh

    @Jeffro: @coin operated: mentioned elsewhere that I would not be at all surprised if the same thought has crossed the mind of every judge involved with this case.  There can’t be any doubt that TIFG would target judges who disagreed with him same as he would opposition politicians.

  39. 39.

    bbleh

    @Baud: @Redshift: yeah, which I figure means Childs and Pan would have to leave a bunch of things out they’d rather have in.  But I still think a solid 3-0 — not some split concurrence or some other opportunity for the mouthpieces to yammer about “Democrat judges” — would be by far the best.  Might even stiffen the spines of other DCA judges and Supremes who don’t wanna hear the inevitable appeal.  (This in part is why I like the idea of saying they don’t have to decide the jurisdiction issue now cuz this appeal goes nowhere either way.)

  40. 40.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    It’s too bad Obama didn’t know about this legal theory of presidential immunity.

    If he had, maybe he would have put people in those FEMA Reedumacation Camps as we were promised.

    Would have probably prevented 6 Jan from ever happening.  Thanks Obama!

    /s

  42. 42.

    hotshoe

    Oh goddamn Maggie Haberman, scum stenographer to the uberscum.
    Her tweets are protected so cannot be viewed with nitter.net — but are visible quoted on FTFNYT live page today:

    Trump appeared briefly at the Waldorf Astoria hotel, formerly the Trump hotel. By his side was one of his lawyers, John F. Lauro, who said, “We can’t have a country where every four years there’s a cycle of political recrimination.”

    “We had a very momentous day in terms of what was learned,” Trump told reporters. He repeated his claims there had been “tremendous” voter fraud in the 2020 election and reiterated his argument that he was immune from prosecution. “I think it’s very unfair when a political opponent is prosecuted,” he said.

    So in copying Trump’s lies, that vampire can’t find the “l” and “e” on her keyboard to change he said to he lied

    She should be hogtied and thrown into a hawthorn bush.

  45. 45.

    smith

    emptywheel:

    Half a day in reviewing Immunity hearing, I can’t stop thinking that I’m listening to three women–one a lawyer/judge before it was normal, the two others women of color–presiding over arguments of two men appealing the order of a woman of color pertaining to white billionaire.

    One of the most satisfying things about watching TFG facing all the legal freight trains bearing down on him is how often they are driven by women or POC or both.

  48. 48.

    Jackie

    @Scout211: I interpreted this as Lindsey being TIFG’s brain and inhaled my coffee down the wrong tube…

    Donald Trump’s brain, Lindsey Graham

  50. 50.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    One point about this stupid argument that PAB’s lawyer is making…

    if the court agrees with his lawyer and rules that the crook is immune, if the Orange Asshole wins he would then kill his opponents with impunity given the immunity that the court has granted him.

    He would do it, without a doubt.

  55. 55.

    lowtechcyclist

    @coin operated:

    I want ST6 sitting on the steps of the Supreme Court. They’re playing politics…they’re now ‘political opponents’ and can be put on the target priority list.

    That would be one way to open up a few SCOTUS vacancies! No need to fight for 15 after that! :-D

  57. 57.

    bbleh

    @Jeffro: @prostratedragon: @coin operated: Lol occurs to me it’s a hilarious opportunity for some cosplay activists.  Some young guys, couple days unshaven, in fatigues and light boots, NO weapons, add a few fake patches with something suggestive like “S6,” and just hang around TIFG appearances.  “Who’re you and what are you doing here?”  “Oh just hanging around, keeping an eye on the candidate.  Guy asked us to.”  “Who asked you to?” “A guy.”  “Well get outta here.”  “Naw, can’t do that.”  Maybe toss in a “not at liberty to say.” Then plant a story with some local media.

  61. 61.

    Jeffro

    @hotshoe: trump lawyer: “We can’t have a country where every four years there’s a cycle of political recrimination.”

    And we didn’t…until trump came along and crimed.

    And we won’t…once trump is prosecuted and put behind bars as an object lesson.

  62. 62.

    Jeffro

    @bbleh:It’s the (Saint) Ronald Reagan National Airport judges and don’t you forget it!

    I have fun with my RWNJ brother and RWNJ-adjacent mom when they call it “Reagan” Airport instead of “National” Airport but also call the Washington Commanders “the Redskins”.

    Are we going with the new names, or the old ones?  Let’s have some consistency, people!!

    (leaving them to figure out that the only ‘consistency’ is the names that make them feel better as white people)

  63. 63.

    Jeffro

    @bbleh: it would be ballsy, but Dark Brandon really ought to make it REAL for everyone, trump most especially.

    “So you’re saying presidents are immune, have immunity, can do whatever they want whenever they want, eh there Donnie?”

    (licks ice cream cone)

    “Are you sure?  Really, reeeally sure?”

  64. 64.

    Ramona

    @hotshoe: “We can’t have a country where every four years there’s a cycle of political recrimination.”

    Which is why we should not vote for a Republican president for at least a decade more!

  65. 65.

    artem1s

    @Ramona:

    Which is why we should not vote for a Republican president for at least a decade more!

    I’d be overjoyed if we didn’t have to vote every four years for POTUS except for the way the GOP seems to have a bottomless pit of ever worser candidates to draw from.

  66. 66.

    bbleh

    @Jeffro: “Are you sure?  Really, reeeally sure?”

    [leans backwards to one side, puts hand in front of mouth, says something to guy behind him wearing dark suit and sunglasses, who nods and steps away]

  67. 67.

    wjca

    @sab: Poor Trump. It wasn’t fair. Three women, and  only one of them white.

    And that one had taste.  Also class.  Therefore no interest whatsoever in him.

    So painful to be reminded of his lifelong position as a wannabe.

  70. 70.

    Burnspbesq

    @Jeffro:

    I still want to know why Dark Brandon didn’t jump on this BS argument IMMEDIATELY and have Seal Team Six show up outside the courtroom, looking impatient as all hell.

    Couldn’t get them there from Coronado on such short notice.

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