Warm, yet chill. From commentor James J:
This is my daughter’s cat Peaches relaxing by a toasty fire escaping all of the holiday hoopla. If there is one thing he has become quite skilled at in his 13 years it is chilling out.
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I conked out on cold medicine and managed to miss last night’s debate entirely. Spent some time afterwards trying to put together my usual potpourri of tweets and snatches, but then again, I suspect that’s mostly for my own amusement…
What’s on the agenda for the start of the week, and/or to celebrate Martin Luther King Day?
David *Rafael* Koch
He really boxed himself in. Siding with the NRA on immunity was untenable, but caving on the matter after strongly supporting it for 10 years, on the eve of the primaries, makes him look like another politician who will shift positions out of personal expediency.
OzarkHillbilly
It’s 2 above outside. My mission, should I accept it, is to keep the fire burning in the wood stove. I accept.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
Yesterday’s Ham4Ham was a tribute to both MLK and LMM’s high school music teacher.
David *Rafael* Koch
Mustang Bobby
Wow, is little Joey being a shitheel this morning about Iran, especially to “the fools who write little blogs.” CLICK. Back to bed.
BillinGlendaleCA
Joe of the Morning doesn’t think we should reward Iran.
BillinGlendaleCA
Cole’s retweet of “Bernie Thoughts” is really funny.
BillinGlendaleCA
Joe of the Morning thinks that the Iran deal is a gamble like Bush’s invasion of Iraq.
David *Rafael* Koch
@BillinGlendaleCA: I’m sure he was mad when St. Ronnie sent them an autographed bible with a cake in the shape of key along with cargo planes full of weapons.
Mustang Bobby
@BillinGlendaleCA: He’s being a prick about this whole thing because twice in one week he got outsmarted by Obama. Now I realize that outsmarting Joe Scarborough is like throwing the invisible tennis ball with the dog, but still….
BillinGlendaleCA
@David *Rafael* Koch: Joe didn’t mention that, funny isn’t it.
NotMax
In other news –
California drought takes its toll on a lowly, oft demeaned veggie.
Restaurants grapple with cauliflower costs
raven
“If you are going to create great things, or destroy the world you have to have vision.”
Baud
@raven:
And that’s why I should be president. I have the vision to do both.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Double Vision? Heard that album alot in college(yes, I’m old).
I missed the debate, we went out with a friend and the kid for an early b-day dinner for me and a belated b-day dinner for our friend.
PurpleGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: Do you use the wood stove to heat the whole house or just part of it? My friend Cassie has a wood stove in her back parlour but she hasn’t used it yet. (Her house is 100 years old and has pocket doors between the two parlour rooms and the doors still work. She was told the wood stove will work but she hasn’t tried it yet; she’s had trouble with the oil burner though and I think she should get the wood stove working.
PurpleGirl
@raven: Did you watch Mercy Street last night? What did you think of it?
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA:
You didn’t miss much since, once again, virtual candidates were barred by the Man from participating.
Seriously, I’m glad it was the last one because the moderators and format are infuriating.
More seriously, early Happy Birthday!
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Thanks, it’s not until Thursday, yesterday was the only day we could get both our friend and the kid together. I think the kid has lined up a job post graduation(she graduates in June). :)
Baud
@PurpleGirl: She should make sure to get it cleaned and checked out before she uses it.
Gimlet
@David *Rafael* Koch: Same guys?
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 11/1 – 11/3/2012 1475 LV 2.6 MoE 48 (Obama) 47 (Romney)
bystander
@Baud: Does this mean we have a campaign song?
I give Bernie credit for embarrassing Andrea Mitchell by calling her on her sh*t about Bill Clinton’s penis.
kindness
I have to work. What is really screwed up is that Kaiser S.Cal gets MLK day off. N. Cal doesn’t. We are allowed to take a vacation day but that isn’t really generous.
Pouring rain right now.
OzarkHillbilly
@PurpleGirl: The whole house… Kind of. We have a baseboard heater in the bath because everyone like a nice toasty bathroom and another in the bedroom because my wife is a Mallorcan lizard (I like a cool bedroom but she has 55% of the vote). The wood stove is able to provide 95% of our heat because it is centrally located and very efficient (it will flat run me out of the house) and the house was designed with it in mind.
It sounds to my like your friend will most likely be able only to heat the one room comfortably as moving the air from the back of the house will require fans. Should she decide to use it, she should first get it inspected and cleaned by a chimney sweep and be instructed on how to properly use it. (not hard but a little more involved than this format can allow for) The last thing she wants is a chimney fire.
PurpleGirl
@Baud: I think she knows that, but I’ll remind her. When I visited her in November, the oil burner wasn’t working one night and we didn’t/couldn’t use the wood stove. I think she should get it working as an alternative to the oil burner.
Schlemazel
@OzarkHillbilly:
+2? That would be a heat wave here on the tundra!
Schlemazel
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Well, then happy birthday eventually!
Amir Khalid
26 comments, and no one has taken the time to notice what a handsome cat Peaches is.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemazel: My Minneapolis Sis would laugh at my complaining about it.
Schlemazel
@OzarkHillbilly:
That is about my location on the tundra, we are almost 20 degrees colder than you this AM. We have a fireplace we sometimes use in spring and fall but never when it gets this cold. The fireplace can take the chill out of the air and if I tend it it heats the brick mass in the center of the house enough to make the temp passable. Running it today though would prevent the furnace from coming on & most of the house would freeze.
Schlemazel
@Amir Khalid:
it is about -28C here, all I saw was that beautiful fire!
OzarkHillbilly
Kevin Drum Likes Bernie’s universal health care plan, so far anyway.
Punchy
They’re forecasting…wait for it…2-4 in. of the fluff tomorrow. And true to form, the local news is losing their mind. This area just shits the bed while sucking its thumb in the fetal position at the mere suggy of any snow whatsoever. Nancies, the lot of ’em.
/Chicago transplant
PurpleGirl
@Schlemazel: I wonder if that would happen if my friend got her stove working.
bemused
@NotMax:
I gasped and passed on buying a $7 head of cauliflower at my local supermarket recently.
Roasted cauliflower is one of our favorite side dishes. We will miss that until when or if the price comes down.
OzarkHillbilly
@Schlemazel: I don’t really complain about the cold now that I can refuse to work in it. (my fingers and toes have had enough frost bite, don’t need no more) In truth I am happy to see some winter weather finally come our way so’s our bugs are knocked back down a little. Unfortunately, one or 2 days of sub 20 degrees with lows at 0 isn’t going to do the trick. Highs are going back above freezing by Thursday and supposed to hit 45 on Sunday.
ixnay
@Schlemazel: We have learned (the hard, frozen pipe way) that the woodstoves are lovely to hang out with, but if the furnace does not come on often enough, the cellar gets too cold. We now have a remote thermometer in the cellar to keep us aware. An essential appliance for owners of aged, not-yet-fully-weatherized, Maine farm houses.
OzarkHillbilly
@PurpleGirl: Is the thermostat in the back room?
Face
@Punchy: Perhaps there’s some clouds you should shout at? Have you not thought of all the precious Uggs that 3rd graders may soil should they have to walk in 3 inches of snow?
Schlemazel
@PurpleGirl:
Maybe not, it depends on several things. In our case the thermostat is mounted on the the wall that is the chimney & block mass, heating that up heats the thermometer also. Our house is fairly small but two stories so heat does not get upstairs all that well. It sounds like your friend’s situation is a little different with the stove off in one room.
I have used the fireplace to heat the house once when we lost power because of an ice storm. It was in the 20’s outside so not all that cold but I could get the first floor into the 50’s, The bedrooms were colder but nothing was in danger of freezing.
PurpleGirl
@OzarkHillbilly: Yes, it’s in the same room as the stove. But it’s on another wall. The house is two stories — 3 bedrooms upstairs and five rooms on the first floor. She uses the upstairs for a cat shelter.
donatellonerd
not just for your own amusement @AnnieLaurie. one of the first things i look at when i wake up in Paris, 6 hours ahead of your time zone. Pretty much my favorite internet summary of what I slept through (I tried following twitter myself, but it takes up much too much of my time for now).
Baud
@Amir Khalid: Peaches does look pretty content.
Schlemazel
@ixnay:
I lived for 2 years on a very old farm house in Northern MN in the late 60’s. First thing: no insulation! Second, leaky windows, very drafty. There was a wood furnace in the basement with a grate opening between the living room and dining room as the only way to get heat into the house. There were smaller vents in the ceiling to allow heat to reach the second floor. I remember mornings when there was a layer of ice on the water in the toilet!
The last person to bed would stoke the furnace and the first person up would get it going again but it was frigid
Satby
-2 here right now with blowing and drifting lake effect snow, it’s the second day of a winter storm warning that was supposed to end at 10am but now is extended to 7pm with a couple more inches predicted. Thankfully, no one has to go anywhere, the girls are off school and I am re-unemployed. Today, I don’t mind, because driving is treacherous.
Schlemazel
@PurpleGirl:
Oh, if the thermostat is in the room with the stove then yeah, it will prevent the furnace from coming on & the temps in the rest of the house will depend on how well the heat from the stove can be distributed.
Satby
And, Peaches is gorgeous. I’d like to snuggle down next to the fire with her. Great picture, James J!
currants
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: That was WONDERFUL! What an amazing teacher they had–and what a tribute to her the students are.
PurpleGirl
I want to thank those responding with comments about the wood stove and heating. I’ll tell my friend what you’ve said.
Schlemazel
Up late last night & saw “Airplane!”. I saw something I didn’t notice before, Jonathon Banks plays one of the people working in the control center, he has some lines. Hard to see Mike Ehrmantraut checking the radar range.
OzarkHillbilly
@PurpleGirl: That is surprising, The best location for a thermostat is always the center of the house and usually a hallway if there is one. It being an older house could have something to do with it but I’m still a little surprised.
@Schlemazel: The guy who installed that thermostat should be shot and pissed on. With all that thermal mass, that is a horrible location for it.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: Did you see the 60 minutes on the mountain lions in the Santa Monica Mountains?
Satby
Shoot, I’m running out of suet cakes for the birds, but at least I still have a lot of the winter mix seed. The birds have been hitting the feeders hard.
Schlemazel
@OzarkHillbilly:
sort of. It is the center of the house, from that standpoint it is the ideal place for it. the fireplace has a very large concrete block foundation that goes all the way to the second floor, it is a huge mass. But there just is no other place for the thing/
Bobby Thomson
@OzarkHillbilly: Ezra Klein is underwhelmed.
Beyond the general difficulty of enacting anything, Sanders is not being straight about the costs of his plan:
1. Raises taxes by more than a trillion dollars a year, including a 2.2% tax on ALL income and a 6.2% tax on employers that would get passed on to workers and consumers.
2. To get his cost assumptions to work, the single payer has to be saying No an awful lot to various treatments – yet Sanders implies heavily that there will be no more claim denials. The single payer also has to be saying No to treatment prices. If you’re scoring at home, this means all three of the most powerful lobbies involved (Insurance, Pharma, and the AMA) will all be gunning against the plan.
3. The plan doesn’t say who will decide what will be covered, how they will make that decision (including their criteria), and how they will be selected. This is the guts of any single payer plan, and where the death panel argument actually has a grain of truth.
4. The plan doesn’t say whether supplemental private insurance would be outlawed. If not, the government doesn’t have as much negotiating leverage.
5. The plan doesn’t address how physical access to care will survive/be guaranteed if hospitals close because they can’t stay open at the new, lower rates.
tl; dr – there are assumptions baked into the plan that elide real political and human costs that not only would make the plan a nonstarter with every U.S. Congress that has ever existed – even in the 1930s – but sow the seeds of its repeal. It’s too much, too soon, too fast.
debbie
@PurpleGirl:
I watched Mercy Street. It will be rerun here tonight, so I may give it a second shot. It seemed like it was the same plot line as the WW1 drama they ran last year.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@currants: With her daughter’s collusion, they’ve managed to keep the teacher in the dark. The daughter has promised a reaction video when her mother sees the vid.
Even if I didn’t love the musical, I’d keep up with the Ham4Ham shows just because of events like this one. Quite a few of them last year promoted other shows; LMM fanboying over George Takei when the cast of Allegiance did one of the shows was adorable.
Satby
@Bobby Thomson: I think the biggest obstacle to single payer is that people don’t understand how higher taxes would end up saving them money in lower health insurance premiums. Most people will assume that they just will get stuck with both higher taxes and still high insurance premiums.
Betty Cracker
There’s a lot of merit to that criticism, IMO, except for this:
Every plan, including the private insurance options now on offer, limits coverage. It’s not a feature that’s unique to single-payer plans. And honestly, I’d rather have a non-profit organization making those decisions than an insurance company with shareholders to please.
currants
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism: That’s even better–would love to see her response. I have to be honest–I’d never even heard of Ham4Ham before this.
OzarkHillbilly
@Bobby Thomson: It’s DOA, nobody says otherwise. Your points 3 thru 5 are missing from what Bernie has proposed but like I said, Drum likes it, so far, but awaits the details of implementation. (the devil is always in the details)(Drum assumes/hopes it will be forth coming). The so far being that his numbers generally add up (with a little fudging here and there). If you want to know exactly what Drum said, go read it.
But basically, Bernie doesn’t need dynamic scoring to make his plan work.
MomSense
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
How wonderful!
Patricia Kayden
Saw this article about how badly the Russian economy is doing and started snorting at how Republicans love them some Putin. They better go help their boy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/russias-economy-of-disillusionment/2016/01/17/0803598e-bb97-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html
OzarkHillbilly
@Bobby Thomson:
And please, can we cut this crap out? Do you really think there aren’t corporate bureaucrats making life and death decisions already?
Baud
@Betty Cracker:
I agree. I also would prefer a cohesive national approach to coverage decisions. But I read Ezra’s article and the criticism is that the plan doesn’t deal with this at all. Ezra also believes that the plan suggests that everything will be covered, which can’t possibly be true.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Agree. “Death panels” is about being anti-government.
Patricia Kayden
So today’s the big day in the British Parliament when they debate whether or not to ban Trump. Of course, they’ll vote not to ban him but it should still be fun.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/british-politicians-wont-ban-trump-instead-they-may-invite-him-for-a-visit/2016/01/15/aab75b44-b971-11e5-85cd-5ad59bc19432_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_trumpparliment640p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
Patricia Kayden
Please get my two comments out of moderation. Thanks.
Satby
@Baud: and ironically, it’s an appeal to the same people who had no problem at all with big government forcing Terry Schiavo to be kept in suspended animation.
Schlemazel
Well, if Drum likes it there must be something wrong with it.
GregB
@David *Rafael* Koch:
The line about the cake that Ronaldus Maximus sent to Ayatollh Khomeini cannot be repeated enough.
A fucking cake! We greeted them with sweets!
Satby
@Schlemazel: I suspect being a cancer patient grappling with our current system influences him.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Texas is big on Death Panels. Just ask the fine people of West, TX.
Baud
@Schlemazel:
@Satby:
I like Drum. Don’t always agree with him anymore than anyone else, but he seems like a decent guy.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
Dynamic scoring is the ultimate IOKIYAR.
But I am curious about one thing. Bernie has initiatives other than single payer that will require funding. I’m not sure where he finds the money for those things if he’s using higher income taxes to pay for his health plan.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud: Sometimes he’s a little too decent. Just the other day is was frothing at the mouth with veins in my teeth and blood in my eyes over something Ted Cruz said and Drum’s biting criticism was that Ted was pandering to the evangelical base.
Schlemazel
@Satby:
I had forgotten that. That would change a persons view on a lot of things.
@Baud:
Same here except I felt like he was moving into the “even the liberal Kevin drum” territory and that annoyed me.
bemused
@debbie:
The introduction of the plot line between the pro-union and pro-reb female characters was a bit clunky, imo but I suppose with only an hour to feature and somewhat flesh out all the major players and story lines, some or a lot of subtlety is lost. I try not to judge one way or another until I have seen a couple more episodes. I was more intrigued with the orderly Samuel and his medical expertise that he is hiding.
lol chikinburd
A comment I tried to post Saturday night and thought had gone into moderation may simply have been denied outright or not gone through, for reasons clearer to me now.
Anyway, that comment was about my emergency room visit Saturday night for what was diagnosed as an anxiety attack. (Shortness of breath out of nowhere.) Of course it had to happen at the start of a long weekend when you can’t even call to make appointments. At least I don’t have anything worse-worse, though insomnia’s there, and last night I noticed some early black dog onset. So that’s what that was about. Rough time starting. (“Get help” — believe me, I’m trying.)
Baud
@lol chikinburd:
Hope you are feeling better. The blog has been buggy lately.
OzarkHillbilly
@Baud:I know, same here, but we all know Bernie’s plan is DOA already, still doesn’t mean it’s not worth talking about.
MomSense
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
I love the musical and I adore ham4ham because it is always a moment of pure joy and spontaneity. We tend on this blog to follow the ugly side of politics (I’m thinking of you Republican Pres candidates) so it is nice to see a cultural phenomenon like Hamilton that is the antithesis of the ugly, xenophobic, greedy, incurious world the Republicans live in.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly: Agree. These types of ideas have not been part of the conversation for too long.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Nope, we went out for dinner.
ETA: We do get alot of coverage about our local lions on the evening news here.
Betty Cracker
@Patricia Kayden: Done, but keep in mind that you can’t post bare links without going into moderation. I’m happy to fish them out when I’m around, but I’m often not! ;-)
WereBear
I like your tweets and …errr….snatches.
Steeplejack
Nippy in NoVa this morning—16° but sunny. Yesterday afternoon I did a double-take when I looked out the window and it was snowing. Tiny flakes that weren’t sticking, but still. We’re supposed to get real snow at the end of this week. I made a mental note to forage for eggs, break and milk a day or two early to avoid the mobs.
Are there any (musical) keyboard mavens up and about? I got a sudden opportunity to pick up a Yamaha P-45 digital piano and have been wondering whether to pull the trigger. I don’t play piano but have always wanted to learn. (I do play the guitar and can read music.) I’m wondering whether this is a fated opportunity or just consumer lust flaring up.
MomSense
@lol chikinburd:
Anxiety attacks are scary. You have been through a lot lately and your body is trying to process all of it. I hope you can rest today and that you have a plan to get some support. I really feel for what you are dealing with. Have you ever done meditation or centering breathing? Some of the instructional videos are cheesy but it’s a yoga breathing technique that helps with anxiety. The bonus is that you can employ it at any time. This breathing really helped my son as he learned how to manage anxiety. Sending you my support and a big hug.
Baud
@Baud: My last comment was grammatically poor.
Satby
@Baud: I do too.
Satby
@lol chikinburd: Take care of yourself and try to put yourself first for a while. And try to remember that even the very worst of times pass, though I understand it’s hard to hold on to that thought sometimes. But they do, we get through things, and you will too. Keeping you in my thoughts.
Satby
@WereBear: I LOLed.
Ben Cisco
Yeah, so that jacked-up Scholastic book that had the slaves happily making George Washington a birthday cake?
We’ll be having none of that.
Steeplejack
@Patricia Kayden:
You can avoid moderation if you transmogrify your naked URLs into FYWP-friendly links with the “link” button above the comment box. You will end up with something in the form
<a href="URL">Descriptive_Text</a>
FlyingToaster
@Schlemazel: Modern codes would make that thermostat move. It’s ‘way to close to a heat source.
We have 3 zones in our 2001-built house, and a gas log fireplace. The first-floor thermostat is on an interior wall as far as possible away from the fireplace, at least 6 feet from a vent. The hallway is line-of-sight from the living room, so the themostat had to be placed in the dining room. When we finished the basement, the placement was “interior wall, as far as possible from vents”, as the contractors informed me and the town inspector checked off “more than 6′”.
Bobby Thomson
@Satby: without cost controls, they’re not wrong. Sanders’ plan ellminates premiums but taxes would have to increase annually.
Bobby Thomson
@OzarkHillbilly: he needs politically unrealistic cost assumptions.
magurakurin
@Baud: Have you guys looked at his plan. Plan is being really generous to describe it. It is a 7 page pdf file. The first page is a picture of Bernie. The next two are boiler plate about healthcare. The plan is described in three short paragraphs on page 4 and 5 but most of page 5 is blank white space. Then there is a list of some fantasy new taxes to describe the funding. It is a fucking joke, the whole thing.
Bobby Thomson
@OzarkHillbilly: the point is that those are important decisions that on the one hand, we want to be politically responsive, and on the other, we don’t. Lots of underlying decisions baked in as well
ETA – without knowing how this works, there is no plan that can be evaluated, just platitudes.
Baud
@magurakurin:
I haven’t read the original source document yet.
ruemara
@NotMax: as a low carber, I’ve been desperate for cauliflower. I just raided Trader Joes for riced cauliflower once a shipment came in. This cauliflower shortage is no joke!
Today? Work. Try to shift this really bad depression a bit. Try to plan shit.
Patricia Kayden
@Betty Cracker: Thanks!!
I'mNotSureWhoIWantToBeYet
@Patricia Kayden: The Ruble has been resuming its march toward worthlessness since October or so. It’s lost over half its value vs the Dollar since June 2014.
XE.com
Eventually the fall is going to cause enough pain to cause changes, but who knows when that will be…
Cheers,
Scott.
WereBear
@Bobby Thomson: One of the things that exasperates me about my fellow citizens is how so many of them have no idea how much of their tax money is sucked up in corporate boondoggles and privatized skimming.
We need one of those pie charts: so much of the paycheck goes to big company welfare and tax avoidance, so much for overpriced health insurance, so much for privatized prisons and death penalty cases…
The Republicans scream about waste, but they are the source of 90% of it.
Vhh
@Satby: Employers must now put the cost of health coverage they provide on the W-2. Step in rught direction.
Princess (now General) Leia
Following the Guardian liveblog of the debate to exclude Trump from visiting the UK.
J R in WV
@Schlemazel:
About Fireplaces and wood stoves:
They aren’t the same thing, although they can both help a house stay warm if a utility goes off.
Thermostats, to control your utility-based heat engine, are easy to relocate. It’s just a small two conductor wire connecting the temperature sensor to the heat producer, whether electric baseboards, hot water baseboards, forced air gas/electric/heat pump. etc. So any heating contractor should be able to relocate a thermostat to a more appropriate spot to take into account a new heat source.
We have had chimney fires, fortunately ours were in a very well insulated stainless chimney and were controllable just by closing dampers to limit the oxygen flow into the chimney. After that it was just a matter of watching closely as things cooled off before allowing any O into the firebox at all. Friends once called me, asked what to do about their chimney fire.
I said “First thing, close off the draft!” He said, “But that makes the chimney smoke!” I said “Yes, but it stops the fire from getting hotter and setting the house on fire!” So he shut it down, and I said I’ll be over in a minute with a couple of big fire extinguishers. When I got there, the house was a little smelly, hot metal and over heated smoke smells. But the chimney was cooling off and the firebox was not burning either. Day was saved by cutting off the draft.
NOTE that this can’t really be done with a fireplace or without an airtight firebox!!
There are probably books about wood burning safely, and I have seen articles in magazines about country living about heating with wood, as if people in suburbs and in town will never need an alternative source of heat.
Our natural gas (primary heat source) used to freeze off on the coldest day of the decade, when the cold reached down to the buried dip in the gas line where condensates accumulated. The first time it happened, we had no backup heat supply, and it was below zero inside when we left for other shelter at a relative’s house.
We have never been without an alternative heat supply since. I bought a wood stove on sale the next business day after that first deep freeze, and ran it’s stove pipe out the window and up the side of the house on brackets about 18 inches away from the wood siding. We never had a problem from that arrangement, and it could keep the whole house habitable.
When you have a chimney sweep or stove installed come, ask them to show you how to build a fire in your stove, by doing it, while you watch, and participate. Then have them show you how to increase heat output or decrease heat output – down to shutting the fire down, by using the controls on your stove.
There should be a thick packet of instructions that came with the stove. All stoves are different, according to their design and construction, and you can probably find another copy online if you can’t find the hard copies that came with the stove bu searching for the stove company, the model name and model or serial number.
We don’t want you to set the house on fire, nor do we want your water pipes to freeze and burst. I’ve experienced both (house fire conqured by third – and smallest fire extinguisher!) water pipes – including hot water baseboard heat system – burst in that first below zero freeze when the gas went off. Weeks getting that repaired, $700+ back in late 1970s.
Hope this helps folks with new wood stoves, or older stoves you need to learn about. They are wonderful to sit by on a cold blizzard night. But you do need to know how they work before you trust them at night while you sleep.
Here’s a starter for everyone with any questions;
How Wood Stoves Work Google search
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
The music teacher has seen the video of her former students singing her MLK song.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
And while I’m here: the lyrics.
BruceFromOhio
@Ben Cisco: Indeed.
Denali
@chickinburd.
Hope things get better good.