(via the Guardian)
Hard to understate how low the bar for a successful convention Trump's shit show has just set for Hillary next week. #RNCinCLE
— Julia Rosen (@juliarosen) July 21, 2016
Remember when the RNC convention was going to be a celebrity-filled love-fest of kumbaya unity and love? Heckuva job, @reince.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) July 21, 2016
"Have you ever been to a wedding where half the people don't think the couple should get married?" –@danpfeiffer describing #RNCinCLE
— Mark Hammer (@markhammer1987) July 21, 2016
America sucks so bad only a guy who can't hire a team that can run a convention can save it.
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) July 21, 2016
And the old Obama hand keeps us from getting too giddy at the confusion of our enemies…
Preemptive bedwetter warning: highly likely Trump gets very good reviews for his speech (low expectations) and he gets a bump in the polls
— Dan Pfeiffer (@danpfeiffer) July 21, 2016
Buckle your seatbelts, it’s gonna be a long night.
Corner Stone
Fran Fucking Tarkenton?
hovercraft
Halpern says the speech will be a state of the union speech.
Corner Stone
Ivanka is going to be a Golden Goddess when she gives her speech. Then when Trump gives his speech, and doesn’t devolve into literally blowing raspberries and giving the hand gestures of moose ears, will be CELEBRATED as a TRUE STATESMAN and THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN HEAL US!
dmsilev
@hovercraft: The State of the Union is BE AFRAID.
Gin & Tonic
@dmsilev: I believe Europe is already plenty afraid.
schrodinger's cat
If someone is really worried about their safety how is voting for the bed wetting party going to save them?
Peale
@hovercraft: For which country?
dmsilev
Bobby Knight. Sadly by video, so no chairs.
And blink and you’ll miss it.
lamh36
@kenvogel 42m42 minutes ago
How Trump’s speech leaked 4 hours before he was set to deliver it.
Hal
Meh. I think he’s going to be terrible.
Edit: Sorry, that’s all I got. Trump is Trump and I don’t see why giving the most important speech of his career is going to change anything.
Corner Stone
@Gin & Tonic: Europe can not fail , it can only be…oh, shit. Wait a minute.
SiubhanDuinne
@dmsilev:
It really is. Did you read the transcript?
(I guess not a transcript until the speech has been delivered. The draft speaking notes, then.)
Mike J
@Corner Stone:
He’ll bring Republicans victory to match his Super Bowl record.
dmsilev
@lamh36: I’ll bet he’s frantically revising it, just because nobody upstages Trump.
Corner Stone
@Hal: He’s going to be absolutely terrible. That will be the reality. But guess what?
lamh36
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: I read it. I saw someone describe it as Nixon without the charm.
Anoniminous
Here’s the line-up for tonight (from NPR:)
Times Eastern and approximate
8:15 p.m.: Fran Tarkenton, a former NFL quarterback who played in three Super Bowls with the Minnesota Vikings.
8:21 p.m: Brock Mealer, a motivational speaker
8:34 p.m.: U.S. Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn.
8:41 p.m.: Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin, the first woman to serve in the position.
8:48 p.m.: Lisa Shin, an optometrist and entrepreneur from New Mexico and a member of the Trump campaign’s National Diversity Coalition
9:06 p.m.: Republican Party Chair Reince Priebus
9:29 p.m.: Silicon Valley venture capitalist Peter Thiel. According to member station KQED, Thiel is expected to tell delegates that he is “proud to be gay.” The convention approved a socially conservative platform earlier this week that decried same-sex marriage.
9:41 p.m.: Colony Capital CEO Tom Barrack, who has worked with Trump on real estate investments and served in the Department of the Interior during the Reagan administration.
10:03 p.m.: Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump’s oldest daughter and one of his closest advisers.
10:15 p.m.: GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump takes the stage. His speech focuses on protecting the United States from threats, both internal and external.
gogol's wife
@Anoniminous:
He’s being introduced by his daughter? That’s weird.
lamh36
Anoniminous
@gogol’s wife:
That relationship needs … work
Shall we say.
lamh36
cokane
Sadly, he already appears to be getting a bump according to recent polls. Of course too much noise in the polls until about a week or two after the Dem convention for them to be significant
hovercraft
@Peale:
Trumtopia, where everyone bows down to the dear leader who is loved by all he rules.
I saw earlier, that when asked what he hoped to achieve at the convention, his answer was that he wanted the country to see how popular he is. The mind it boggles.
SiubhanDuinne
Ivanka is going to introduce him. So I think, before he says anything at all from his speaking notes, he’s going to talk about how great she was, and how beautiful she is — “Isn’t she gorgeous? My daughter! My little Ivanka!” — and that would all be very normal and sweet except for the fact that everyone will remember all the times he talked about wanting to boink his own daughter, so the whole thing will start out creepy, and go from there.
West of the Rockies (been a while)
@Corner Stone:
Well, he retired from the game 38 years ago, meaning sports fans of 50 would be impressed. How old is the average Republican anyway? Sounds like a better fit than young Timmy Tebow.
debbie
@Corner Stone:
It can only be explained as too many concussions.
dmsilev
Blackburn is babbling. Is Trumpism contagious?
hovercraft
@lamh36:
David Brock has been all over drump for a year, I bet he has some serious dirt for after the olympics.
hovercraft
@Corner Stone:
Trentrunner
@gogol’s wife: Hillary is scheduled to be introduced by Chelsea next week at the DNC.
sukabi
@Anoniminous: “protect us from threats both foreign and internal”
So he’s bowing out?
Corner Stone
I have to say I am impressed. I was not aware Marsha Blackburn was fluent in German.
Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha !
Greg
I will predict medias assessment using the voice of an Olympic gymnast judge.
Trump nails the pivot, he’s a crowd favorite.
Gold medal material.
Feebog
@Anoniminous:
Thanks for posting the schedule. I have a meeting tonight, starts a 7:00 p.m. Pacific, so I’m afraid I’ll miss the debacle, or speech as some would more politely call it. I’m sure Tweety will be playing the highlights for hours, so no worries.
jl
Apologies if someone posted it already.
Leaked text of Trump’s speech.
READ: Trump To Paint Dark Picture Of American Affairs In Final RNC Speech
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/read-trump-rnc-speech-leaked
I scanned it. Seems a weird mix of stuff. HRC is a walking foreign policy disaster covered in blood. Immigrants coming to kill us all and take our jobs. Be terrified. Standard conservative GOP boilerplate on economics. Some fake progressive stuff. I bring DEALZ GREAT DEALZ for the common person.
Edit: I noticed the Great Mexico Wall is back. Only a couple of sentences though.
Corner Stone
Steve Schmidt should be shunned from polite society. Any time he starts to speak on TV he should have his intro laden with, “So, Sarah Palin? Now to you, Steve Schmidt.”
Joel
I liked the Republicans better when they were just all Lee Greenwood and “Real American“.
Peale
@Trentrunner: @Trentrunner: Yeah. I’m fine with havin a daughter do the introduction. By the fourth night, if you’re still on the fence going “If only someone I trusted were to vouch for the nominee”, you’re kind of out of luck. The introduction isn’t the keynote address that gets reserved for the up and comer.
SiubhanDuinne
And the thing about him is, when he is supposedly being serious and presidential — when he speaks from written text or a TelePrompTer — he is dull, bland, boring, tedious, and soporific, and his base abandons him, and everybody else is yawning. Yet when he riffs and does his stream-of-consciousness thing and lets all his freak flags fly, his base adores him and everyone else freaks out because he’s not being presidential.
You couldn’t pay me enough to be one of his advisors.*
*(Actually, from what I’ve read, his advisors all end up being sued, not paid, so I guess my fine principles hardly matter.)
Trentrunner
@SiubhanDuinne: “My beautiful daughter Ivanka…isn’t she gorgeous? I’d like to do to her what I’m going to do to this country for the next four years.” [HUGE cheers]
Mike J
Hillary just tweeted:
Anoniminous
Marsha Blackburn. The vicious shitheel who has been leaking the names and information of Planned Parenthood staff and medical researchers to anti-abortion groups.
sukabi
Someone needs to hack the jumbotron and put the Nightly Show’s “un blackening” graphic up there… Tyrannosoreass Trump with the tiny hands just before he makes his entrance…
Anne Laurie
@dmsilev:
“Mrs.” Blackburn (which she uses on her Congressional namplate) is the lady who instigated the multi-million dollar probe into whether Planned Parenthood sells aborted baby parts for profit. If you saw any of her performance then, well, she’s always been… incoherent.
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: I think he’s going to ad lib at least some of it. Between the crowd feedback and the fact that the draft has leaked already (someone in his campaign sent it to David Brock, which is …interesting in and of itself), he’s going to go off-script.
hovercraft
@Corner Stone:
I was told that ever since the Cruz debacle, that the convention hall is now united and that the atmosphere in the arena is electric. Funny how apart from the screaming black preacher it seems just as boring as the last few nights. What am I missing.
srv
All this hysteria over Trumps FP statements. It’s like people who thought Obama’s healthcare plan would be some radical single payer thingy.
Trump has decades of experience working in NYC, which has a GDP bigger than 99% of the world.
SiubhanDuinne
Is there a live feed link? Or am I going to have to do all the googling myself, like a serf?
dmsilev
@hovercraft: Governor Fallin apparently put the crowd to sleep.
? Martin
Just remember everyone, this speech almost certainly sounded better in the original German.
dmsilev
@SiubhanDuinne: YouTube live stream
inventor
@srv: Vote your conscience.
Anoniminous
@SiubhanDuinne:
YouTube has it.
? Martin
@srv:
I have decades of experience working in California which has the 5th largest economy in the world. I’m way the fuck more qualified to be president than Trump. Yay for me. Vote Martin!
(Sorry Baud)
SiubhanDuinne
@dmsilev:
@Anoniminous:
Ta
Baud
@? Martin: You are my Cruz.
eemom
It’s over after tonight, right? RIGHT?? I can’t stand it anymore and I’m not even watching.
Mary G
@hovercraft: They were amped before it started , but the speakers put them to sleep.
gogol's wife
@inventor:
lolololol
dmsilev
@eemom: Tonight will be the night that never ends. Or at least, that’s what it will feel like.
Cacti
@srv:
Numbers really aren’t your thing, are they?
New York only has the 3rd largest GDP of the 50 states
Capt Seaweed
@SiubhanDuinne:
CSpan live feed:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?412402-1/day-four-republican-national-convention&live
ruemara
@srv: NYers hated that man & the power behind the throne was Ivana, now Ivanka.
Credenzal Jocularity
I read the draft notes. I found the “End catch and release on the border” line particularly chilling, considering the alternative to the regular use of the term.
dmsilev
This house band seems inappropriate for the mood of the convention. Needs more Wagner.
Edit: They’ve been playing for like 6 or 7 minutes straight now. Some speaker thought better about showing up?
hovercraft
@cokane:
I don’t see much of a bounce.
Rasmussen Reports 7/18 – 7/19 1000 LV 3.0 42 43 Trump +1
Reuters/Ipsos 7/16 – 7/20 1232 RV 3.2 40 36 Clinton +4
LA Times/USC 7/14 – 7/20 2050 LV — 43 43 Tie
Economist/YouGov 7/15 – 7/17 925 RV 4.5 45 41 Clinton +4
NBC News/SurveyMonkey7/11 – 7/17 9436 RV 1.4 46 45 Clinton +1
CNN/ORC 7/13 – 7/16 872 RV 3.5 49 42 Clinton +7
ABC News/Wash Post 7/11 – 7/14 816 RV 4.0 47 43 Clinton +4
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/9 – 7/13 1000 RV 3.1 46 41 Clinton +5
CBS News/NY Times 7/8 – 7/12 1358 RV 3. 40 40 Tie
McClatchy/Marist 7/5 – 7/9 1053 RV 3.0 42 39 Clinton +3
Matt McIrvin
@lamh36: Hey, come to think of it, whatever happened to the sekrit documents Julian Assange was about to leak that would provide sufficient evidence to put Hillary in the slammer?
Matt McIrvin
@hovercraft: A lot of people seem to be inferring a convention bounce from poll movement that happened before the convention began.
Anoniminous
@hovercraft:
Ignore Rassmussen. They are nothing but a propaganda outfit for the GOP. Their polls are junk.
Mary G
@dmsilev: Or Lawrence Welk?
SiubhanDuinne
What is this fucking honkytonk music?
Major Major Major Major
NYMag has a piece on Milo Yiannogreeklastname about the “decadent gay fascist” figure and its history. Nice little read. here
dmsilev
Christ, they’re _still_ playing.
Baud
@hovercraft:
It’s too early. And I don’t recall the conventions being back to back like this. Not sure you’ll see any bounce.
Ernest Pikeman
@srv:
I know some people here consider you a performance art troll, but I think you’re just stupid.
How many nukes does NY have?
hovercraft
Oy vey, Hugh Hewitt’s smug assertions of bullshit are annoying, and now Jeff Sessions.
dmsilev
“Please welcome back Chairman Preibus” is probably going to contend for the Buzzkill of the Year award.
Kathleen
Triumph Of The Swill.
GxB
@Mike J: Now that is a well crafted burn.
Betty Cracker
I think I’ll just catch a clip of highlights tomorrow. I can’t watch this shit straight up anymore without danger of contact soul-sickness. Stay safe, y’all.
Peale
@Baud: they must have had them this close before. This can’t be the first time they’ve run up against the Olympics.
SiubhanDuinne
I’ve heard RNC PR BS as a talking head on radio and tv shows, often, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard him give a real speech before now.
Whiny little shit, isn’t he?
hovercraft
@Baud:
Exactly, if the convention hadn’t been such a shit show, it might be possible, but usually a bounce comes after the candidates speech. I was responding to cokane who said there was already the beginning of a bounce, not so.
hovercraft
Rinse Prius is whinny and boring. Is it 10 yet. Oh looky the chants have begun.
dmsilev
@Kathleen: Trumph of the Will
SFAW
@Cacti:
Well, srv is right, if you eliminate all the other states, provinces, cities, and countries with GDPs larger than NY’s. Or, as Benchley might say, “A man so wealthy he needed only ham to have ham and eggs, if he had had the eggs,”
inventor
@Ernest Pikeman:
That’s obviously a question for Vice President Pence.
dmsilev
YouTube’s audio is cutting in and out. Any other live streams?
Edit: CBS/Twitter seems reliable for now.
mainmata
@Corner Stone: Football player, especially back then but even now. Tom Brady loves him some Trump; I’m sure many more do too.
hovercraft
@Peale:
Normally the conventions are after the games, the gop moved theirs up this year because last time the primaries dragged on and when they were over RMoney was broke and couldn’t touch his general election money till after the convention, while Obama spent the summer beating him up. So the early convention is to free up the money early.
Chyron HR
@? Martin:
In Trump’s case, the speech sounded better in the original Sad Frog meme images.
SFAW
What I’m hoping for is that after his daughter introduces him, he says “Большое спасибо” as a shout out to his puppet master(s) (Plural if Manafort говорит на русском языке.)
Note: gogol’s wife can correct my grammar. My Russkie is weak, at best.
Bill E Pilgrim
Well that was a fun political party. Almost sad to see it go.
Two thousand zero sixteen — party over, out of time.
But tonight we’re gonna party like it’s worth $5.99….
dmsilev
Fuck, this band again? Normally, I’d wonder whether Trump owed them money or something, but we all know that he’d just blow off the debt so that can’t be it.
jl
@SFAW: Hello, I happen to live and work in a state that has the 6th largest GDP in the world and larger than NYC. I’m more qualified than Trump. And you don’t need to worry. After my inauguration, I will make great DEALZ for you and you…. and YOU and YOU and YOU!
piratedan
@dmsilev: no, that’s pretty much Blackburn on form from what I’ve seen of her in the past
SFAW
@Matt McIrvin:
Chief Editor Korir is reviewing them one last time.
hovercraft
@dmsilev:
It’s the official RNC band, this is their second convention.
mainmata
@cokane: There’s a large portion of Americans that simply don’t pay attention to politics at all and so news filtering on various media registers more than it would otherwise. Also Trump has been a media celebrity for more than 10 years.
mainmata
@Mike J: Hilz speaks Spanish or are we to assume a staffer. I thought Arpaio was Hispanic and doesn’t know Spanish grammar (or in this case Spanglish)?
gogol's wife
@SFAW:
Perfectly correct.
David ?▶️Hillary/Harley Quinn 2016▶️? Koch
@lamh36:
That’s hilarious! Vogel is a lite version of Halperin. For him to be critical of trump tells you Trump has loser stink all over him.
Dadadadadadada
@mainmata: I understand Arpaio to be of Italian descent. I doubt he knows much Spanish in any case.
No One You Know
@lamh36: Frontier declines to open the link.
Bastards!
No One You Know
FYWP eated my comment. Without profanity, this time: Frontier declined to open the link to the speech notes. Insert comment on their collective legitimacy here.
Paul in KY
@Betty Cracker: The Tour de France is sooooo much better to watch.