"what she lacks in owns, she made up for in reassuring calmness" https://t.co/LlHBukKzrk
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) September 27, 2016
Trump looks pissed off when Hillary talks.
Hillary looks amused when Trump talks.— Olivia Nuzzi (@Olivianuzzi) September 27, 2016
Trump complaining that someone is being inappropriate and not nice to him. This is a thing that happened. In real life.
— (((Megan McArdle))) (@asymmetricinfo) September 27, 2016
When you’ve lost Megan McArgleBargle…
So THIS is what it looks like if a comedian with a tight 5 suddenly has to do a full hour.
— Josh Patten (@thejoshpatten) September 27, 2016
Donald Trump had one job tonight: don't take the bait.
He took the bait.https://t.co/LaQhFm8WDL
— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) September 27, 2016
… Smiling, serene, egged on by each groan and grunt and interruption she goaded from her rival, Clinton provoked Trump again and again—over his refusal to release his tax returns, his years-long “racist lie” about President Barack Obama’s birthplace, his foreign-policy views, and his treatment of women. Meanwhile, Trump drew some blood on the issue of trade, specifically calling out crucial battleground states in the process, but found little on Clinton’s most vulnerable fronts: e-mail, family foundation and policy crises of her tenure as secretary of state…
Trump started the debate relatively subdued, but grew increasingly testy as the night went on—and as Clinton’s jabs kept coming. He used negative emotion words like “terrible,” “stupid,” and “disaster” about 50 percent more often at the end of the debate than the beginning, according to a Bloomberg Politics analysis with Quantified Communications…
A CNN snap poll found that 62 percent of voters who watched said Clinton won the debate compared to 27 percent for Trump.
His son Donald Trump, Jr. defended his father after the debate: “There’s a time for temperament, and there’s a time where you actually have to defend yourself,” he said…
Audience erupts in laughter when Trump says he has better temperament than Clinton https://t.co/Bceo3Lt8FX pic.twitter.com/Yzhmyq7iWY
— The Hill (@thehill) September 27, 2016
Small note: Donald Trump doesn't actually know what "temperament" means.
— Jeffrey Goldberg (@JeffreyGoldberg) September 27, 2016
Trump's famously great temperament is going to love it when his panicking team tells him he has to cram for the next debate.
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) September 27, 2016
Thing is, though — for all the well-deserved mockery, Trump said a bunch of stuff that in any other election cycle would have even the Media Village Idiots perturbed. He once again advocated “taking the oil” from Iraq (which would be a war crime, if it were physically possible); he said “we” should be demanding protection money from NATO; he thought “China should just go into North Korea” (because a manly commander like Douglas MacArthur would’ve done just that); he derided the Fifth Amendment; he said that stop & frisk was “extremely effective in reducing crime” (it wasn’t) until “a very anti-police judge” ruled against it, and repeatedly contradicted the moderator who pointed out that it had been found unconstitutional…
Where the #TrumpWon hashtag started – Russia.
Not a joke.@20committee pic.twitter.com/Uw7s2tjgAW— Louise Mensch (@LouiseMensch) September 27, 2016
Shorter Trump: When people indulge in stupid conspiracy theories, I get results
— Daniel Larison (@DanielLarison) September 27, 2016
Dan from Portland, Ore., has done the internet comments section proud today. https://t.co/qCbPu3hPtV pic.twitter.com/nsRtXUg53c
— Cyberhuman Caitlin (@caitlin__kelly) September 28, 2016
Seeing a lot of Dem pros cackling at their counterparts w Trump & the GOP. As well they should
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 27, 2016
Weird how these extended Trump freak-outs (Curiel, Khan, Machado) keep involving people of color.
— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) September 27, 2016
Only thing helping Trump today is that pundits are too burned by past experience to confidently say "that rambling mess will hurt him."
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) September 27, 2016
According to Deadspin, “Even Stormfront Thinks Hillary Clinton Won The Debate“. (They have screencaps, so you don’t have to worry about malware from links.)
538 pre-debate, post-debate. pic.twitter.com/cr9SF8NHRM
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) September 27, 2016
If the guy didn't bother to prepare for the most important 90 minutes of his campaign, what do you think he'll do as president?
— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 27, 2016
Get in over his head, freak out, call Sean Hannity for advice, fail catastrophically, refuse to accept responsibility for it. https://t.co/0ivgEH5rCR
— Conor Friedersdorf (@conor64) September 27, 2016
TRUMP: "You have a choice this November: do you wanna learn shit or burn shit? I think the answer's burn shit. I'll burn it big & high, OK?"
— Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) September 26, 2016
My father has a different (Russian) phrase for this: "A bad dancer blames it on his balls being in the way." pic.twitter.com/ga41cPVKCg
— Julia Ioffe (@juliaioffe) September 27, 2016
THE SNIFFLES ARE INOPERATIVE:
Trump, asked about #SniffleGate, on @foxandfriends, "There was no sniffles."
— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) September 27, 2016
Who are you gonna believe: me, or my lying nose? https://t.co/U48U6GfNx0
— Josh Barro (@jbarro) September 27, 2016
(The older more seasoned people here will remember Ron Ziegler)
Hillary Clinton belongs in the White House. Donald Trump belongs on my show.
— Jerry Springer (@jerryspringer) September 27, 2016
If Donald Trump doesn't pay federal income taxes, is he a member of the 47 percent?
— Molly Ball (@mollyesque) September 27, 2016
the Republican presidential nominee put these words in this order pic.twitter.com/kD6bcVoiwO
— Simon Maloy (@SimonMaloy) September 27, 2016
LOL, look the story headline. Look at these ads: https://t.co/2sgroAWPRu pic.twitter.com/vwKK6pE5MY
— andrew kaczynski (@BuzzFeedAndrew) September 27, 2016
Donald Trump on hacks blamed on Russia: “It could be someone sitting on their bed who weighs 400 pounds.”
— Matt Viser (@mviser) September 27, 2016
All over America, 400-pound people are sitting on their beds, booting up, and preparing a terrible revenge.
— Charles P. Pierce (@ESQPolitics) September 27, 2016
Not the five-word closer I expected from Trump last night: "I will absolutely support her.” Concession speech preview.
— Virginia Heffernan (@page88) September 27, 2016
MOOK: Ready?
HILLARY: Yep. I'm gonna make a positive case for my candidacy.
MOOK: Good.
HILLARY: And if I roast a prick along the way? Gravy— Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) September 27, 2016
Keith G
Now that I am up and at a keyboard, I can do this correctly: Here is FLOTUS, whom David Plouffe and David Axelrod have nicknamed, “The Closer” with an ad that was put up late last night.
Amir Khalid
I can’t imagine better news for America than that the Republican party is proceeding to the presidential election with a national laughing stock of a nominee.
sukabi
Question: if the #TrumpWon hashtag started in Russia, is it safe to assume that the Trump Won ads are also a Russian product?
robert thompson
HRC is playing cool and calm. Trump can’t deal with someone who mentally in the game at all times. His ADD or whatever went up his nose paralyzes him once his schtick is done. No capacity for cognitive reaction.
That thing about the oil in Iraq being ours for the taking is so beyond the pale that I really don’t understand how elites would sit comfortably with this. Even the PNAC were not so bold or stupid. That would embroil is in ME turmoil death and treasure wasted just as if we were the French trying to hold on to the rubber plantations in Indochina. The thing about taking someones resources means you can never leave. We would need multiple conveyor belts at Dover AFB.
Keith G
@Amir Khalid: Well, actually the best news for us would be to have two political parties, each with some attachment to centrist policies, that actually believe in the value of good governance. But the news you refer to will have to do until that time when/if a new governing consus evolves.
cokane
the russia trending thing has been debunked per Washington Post. This is why you never broadcast what conservatives say without a double check.
Can we stop it with this stupid Russia obsession?
cokane
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/27/that-viral-image-showing-trumpwon-starting-in-russia-is-probably-fake/
link
Villago Delenda Est
He was lying (of course) when he gave the five word closer.
montanareddog
@robert thompson:
I did a quick back of the envelope calculation. Wikipedia says there are an estimated 140billion barrels of oil reserves in Iraq; current production is 4.55 million barrels per day. If my sums is correct, at that rate of extraction, the US Army would have to occupy and defend Iraq’s oilfields for 84 years to “take” all of the oil.
Cermet
The tRump is crying to any news outlet about how he really did win … LOLOLOLOL. What a fucking looser and this is what thugs want to vote for?! LOLOLOL
Splitting Image
I’m glad that Clinton trashed Trump so badly on Monday, but I’m even happier that the debate season is finally upon us. Clinton has done well at every campaign event so far (certainly compared to Trump), but I think the long gap between the conventions and the first debate is what allowed the “journalists” on TV to take control of the narrative. They won’t have another long stretch to do that again, and once the debates are done Trump won’t have any more big chances to sell himself.
Next up is the VP debate. Tim Kaine should be able to hold his own against Mike Pence, who I am still occasionally confusing with Mitch Daniels.
greennotGreen
Since this is an open thread, may I ask about the triple parentheses around some tweeters’ names. I understand it signifies that they’re Jewish, but how do the parentheses get there?
amk
I will absolutely support her.
Wonder how many neo-nazi votes that’s gonna cost him.
different-church-lady
@greennotGreen: yeah. I’m suspicios that McArdle would be ironic enough to flip an antisemite slur voluntarilly.
Chyron HR
There’s no change in the election map, and I sincerely doubt there was time to do any kind of election polling that would be influenced by the debates, but the 538 election meter swung 4 points based solely on Silver’s personal impression of who won.
But it’s science, guys. He has a secret formula and it’s foolish of you to doubt his predictions. And no, you can’t see the formula.
amk
His ‘cyber’ speech was utter gibberish from a mad mind. If the eleventeen deep bench of thugs had managed to even marginally defeat him in the first two or three primary states, he would have quit.
robert thompson
@montanareddog: 84 years defending drilling rigs, production rigs, pipelines to get the oil out of Iraq, all the infrastructure involved so fragile to simple explosives and having to guard it all. Any back of the envelope calculations what kinda force structure and size that would take? Don’t these morons understand it will be their children and grandchildren defending the indefensible. Their stupidity is awesome.
amk
@montanareddog: It’s simple guyz, nuke all the iraqis and send in murkans in hazmat suits to take the oil.
Cermet
So the Rump is spending money on ads trying to convince people he won the debate?! What a pathetic loooosssseeerrr!!!!LOLOLOL
That the goppers are allowing money that this critical junction to be spent on an ego trip is beyond funny.
Geoduck
@greennotGreen: If you mean in technical terms, I can’t help you, but socially it started as way for white-supremacist types to mark “Jewish” names in their online writing without triggering Google searches. It’s supposed to be “historical echoes” or somesuch. When word of the practice leaked out to the mainstream, people started putting them around their own names as a way to neuter it.
rikyrah
Good Morning?, Everyone?
different-church-lady
Since it’s an open thread, I’ll share this morning’s insonia induced anxiety: I’m having dark thoughts that today is going to be my last day in the working world.
I wonder how long a person can retire on $8000…
greennotGreen
@Geoduck: Even Megan McArdle?
p.s. You wouldn’t happen to be an Evergreen alum, would you?
Anne Laurie
@greennotGreen:
See my July post here. Excerpt:
The original triple-parens thing was originally done by a neoNazi app that I’m told has been disappeared by all reputable service providers. Adam did a longer, probably more coherent, explanatory post around the same time (but I’m tired & on my way to bed).
Twitter’s fairly generous about letting its users change their monikers — the Blogmaster is calling himself Your Debate Binky right now. So plenty of not-Jewish people (including, I believe, McArdle) added the triple-parens in solidarity. Some of them, and some of the Jewish twitter users who chose to ‘out’ themselves, have since deleted the triple-parens, now that their point’s been made. Not sure how many current users are stalwarts, and how many just haven’t gotten the Round Tuit.
robert thompson
@rikyrah: Good Morning! You seem to be in a joyous frame of mind.
OzarkHillbilly
@Splitting Image:
Who was once referred to as the “dumbest man in Congress”.
greennotGreen
@different-church-lady: How are your construction skills? It’s going to take a lot of people to build that wall? And then there’s ICE; they’ll probably be hiring. THAT’LL help your insomnia!
different-church-lady
@greennotGreen: all I know about ICE is that I’m currently putting it on the foot I’ll have to stand on for 10 hours today.
greennotGreen
@Anne Laurie: Thanks. I was out of town and very busy during part of July; must be why I missed it.
Mustang Bobby
The Arizona Republic, which has never endorsed a Democrat in the 126-year history of the paper, endorsed Hillary Clinton.
I really doubt that anyone’s mind has ever been changed by a newspaper endorsement, but it’s pretty amazing nonetheless.
OzarkHillbilly
@rikyrah: :-)
amk
@Anne Laurie: They do live in their own fever swamp, don’t they? No wonder they want that fucking wall.
NorthLeft12
@OzarkHillbilly:If Mike Pence’s post Congress history is considered, he can probably claim to be the “dumbest person in any building he currently inhabits”.
Cermet
@different-church-lady: Uh, has someone said that you will be let go? If not, hang in there and just do the job without trying to add extra worries. Hope you are worrying for nothing. Best of luck and hope your day goes well.
NorthLeft12
BTW I think I figured out what was wrong with Deadbeat Donald’s microphone. It was apparently missing it’s filter.
gene108
@different-church-lady:
You could join a monastery. I think they’d cover three meals and lodging.
Cermet
@different-church-lady:Unless you are fighting swelling, ice is the wrong treatment. Heat to increase circulation and healing – again, only if there is no swelling. Do take anti-inflammation drugs like Ibuprofen or aspirin (if safe for you. Always dissolve aspirin in water if taking it and follow with more water.)
gene108
@different-church-lady:
Hope th anxiety for job loss is just anxiety and there are no lay offs coming.
OzarkHillbilly
@NorthLeft12: I thought it was on.
different-church-lady
@Cermet: yeah, swelling. Can’t even remember how I hurt it. I figure the doctor will just cut it off and give me a wooden one.
Matt McIrvin
@Anne Laurie: I’m still seeing Nazi trolls on various social media using the parens unironically to pester people with Jewish-sounding names.
Vhh
@montanareddog: Remember that McCain said the US should be prepared to say in Iraq for 100 yrs.
satby
@different-church-lady: I’ve had to pick myself up and dust myself off over and over again, so if the end comes at this job for you, believe me when I say you’ll be ok in the end. Tough times don’t last. Not to minimize your stress at the moment, because it must be huge, just know you’ll overcome the hurdles if they show up.
Barry
@different-church-lady: “Since it’s an open thread, I’ll share this morning’s insonia induced anxiety: I’m having dark thoughts that today is going to be my last day in the working world.
I wonder how long a person can retire on $8000…”
I feel for you. What is your situation?
montanareddog
@robert thompson: I am sure he could hire the smartest, most tremendous engineers to build the biggest, most tremendous pipelines to America and pump it all out in 6 months or so and, err, pour it into the abandoned coal mines and fracking fissures caused by the foreign usurper’s energy policies. Or something just as coherent as his counter-cyberwarfare policy which is apparently to hire his 10 yo son on a tremendous salary. Or something.
Dupe
What I said to the taking the oil comment:
“It is geologically impossible, logistically improbable, and internationally illegal.”
FlipYrWhig
@montanareddog: Hmm. I thought it was to crack down on his 10 year old son before he became the next Snowden.
Michael Bersin
@OzarkHillbilly: They keep having that contest every time they’re in session. The title seems to rotate among quite a few.
The number of individuals who could be classified as the “dumbest member of Congress” is approximately the same as the count of individuals we constantly read about in international news who are in an organization’s “number three” leadership position who usually end up dynamically resigning from their jobs.
Miss Bianca
@different-church-lady: eep?
dr. bloor
@Chyron HR:
Is this snark, or willful stupidity?
BTW, that’s not a screen shot of just before/just after the debate.
JGabriel
Yes.
Thank you for joining us on today’s episode of Simple Answers To Simple Questions.
JGabriel
cokane:
Mensch is a Tory, sure, but that particular meme didn’t start with her, it started with some guy named “Dusty” whose political persuasion I’m unfamiliar with. But, yeah, the Post’s debunking looks pretty solid.
We can stop it when Trump stops it.
Lizzy L
@Michael Bersin: Can we nominate for the post? I nominate Trey Gowdy.
PaulR
@Mustang Bobby: The endorsement follows yesterday’s post-debate editorial headlined, “Clinton Takes Down National Bully”.
Feebog
@Lizzy L:
There you go again, casting aspersions on Louie Gomert’s asparagus.
JR in WV
@greennotGreen:
The StormFront White Nationalists started using a browser add-on that would recognize names the Nazis regarded as Jewish and automatically added those (((smith))) parens so that the Nazis would know when Jews were involved in their news.
So in support of the Jewish community, people with names like smith started typing their names with (((these))) added in.
Oddly, recently we started receiving literature aimed at the Jewish community, probably by contributing to a liberal cause and having a Germanic (Swiss in our case) name. Much of it was from groups desperately trying to convert Jews to Christianity so that the New Temple can be built as a prerequisite for the “end times” rapture.
Hopeless fol-de-rol nonsense to one raised as a Christian early on, but exposed to multiple religions as a young adult, like all the major religions. Fundy Christians are just so sad.
chopper
the pic of trump in that first tweet just reminds me how terrible his posture is.
karen marie
@robert thompson: And the beauty of it is that taxpayers will pay for the while oil executives reap the profits. Nice racket.
Peter
@cokane: The poster’s defending it on Twitter, saying that it didn’t come from TrendMaps, but rather was put together using data from TrendMaps. Unfortunately, I’ve scoured her timeline and can’t figure out for the life of me figure out where it IS supposed to have come from, despite her insistence that she’s posted it.
For now, stash it under ‘debunked’ with the possibility of revisiting it if someone provides new evidence.
And anyway, as delicious as it would be, we really don’t need the Russian connection. A group of dedicated yahoos can make anything trend without needing to resort to foreign resources.
daves09
Trump can’t prep for the debates. Try to cram information into that ADD mind and you’ll get the word salad that comes when the salad spinner goes into hyperwarp. Which would actually be kind of great.
Cain
@robert thompson: These people don’t give a rats ass. They are too drunk on nationalism and America is great rhetoric. America will not be great if we are thieves that come in and steal other people’s treasure. There is nothing honorable about that. I can’t believe that we have a candidate that is outloud saying that they want to go into a sovereign country and take their property. The man, will encourage nuclear proliferation everywhere… we would undo everything that was done in the past 40 years.
No One You Know
@different-church-lady: How are you doing?
I too am challenged by the dark. Often it’s because it’s my own dark inner critic.
Knowing this doesn’t make me less worried, but it puts a note of perspective that’s helpful.