I like this ad but I think spotted some marble countertops in the background.
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I like this ad but I think spotted some marble countertops in the background.
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debbie
I hope the ad gets nationwide play.
ArchTeryx
Exactly. What they’re about to do amounts to mass murder. Just because it is murder by malign neglect does not make it any less murder. About this, I’m violating Godwin’s law right and left, and screw the tone police.
(Someone asked me exactly what I said in Lawyers, Guns, and Money to get the tone police so riled up. I said that during WWII, the German public was mostly clueless about the death camps because they were out of sight, out of mind. Oh, there were plenty of rumors of their existence, but the true extent of their slaughter wasn’t known until the Allied armies found them, and the reaction of the German public, post-war, was mostly blind horror. It is why, to this day, Nazi symbols are illegal to display in Germany – even during historical recreations. The Republican party isn’t proposing death camps, but they are following the exact same chain of logic: Out of sight, out of mind. So what if a bunch of the disabled and poor people die for lack of ability to see a doctor? Rich people need more money!)
OzarkHillbilly
@ArchTeryx:
They are far fonder of death panels. What was it about Republicans and projection? Slips my mind just now.
Patricia Kayden
@ArchTeryx:
And this is the party which claims that it is pro-life simply because its members want to force women to give birth and to control women’s use of birth control (because women are too dumb to control their own reproductive choices). They are a pro-death party as long as the deaths are of those who are poor, dark-skinned or Muslims.
ArchTeryx
@OzarkHillbilly: Frankly, I think it’s rather like the relationship between corporations and slavery: Corporations found out that you can have all the trappings of slavery while making the slaves pay for their own food and housing. Win-win!
Republicans don’t need stinkin’ death camps. They can just isolate the poor from life’s necessities and let them die on their own, alone. No death camps to liberate – or discover. Just business as usual in America.
JPL
It’s a good ad, and I wish that they had run it in the sixth district of GA. I tired of the ads they are running, and since Handel openly supports the house bill, it would be devastating.
JPL
@Patricia Kayden: What rural and exurban supporters don’t realize, is they will be hurt by the republicans policies.
hovercraft
@debbie:
CNN played it this morning, and like so many AD’s, I suspect it’ll get a lot of play on the cable shows and places like the View.
Oatler.
What kind of playing device is used here? Smoke started coming out of my Adblock icon and its counter is up to 100 and growing!
Ladyraxterinok
Mitch is refusing to meet with the March of Dimes (among other groups)!?!?! Well, it’s only kids after slL
And it was started by FDR. So what GOPer could support THAT??
Laura
I don’t see this video having any impact on the Republican Senators. They’ve been paid to get rich fuckers their tax cuts. They will lie and deny that this hurts Americans. They will cast blame on Democrats, on President Obama, and on the very individuals who lose coverage. They will refuse to hear the suffering and cram cash in their ears to muffle the cries of their constituents.
They will insist what is happening is not in fact happening. Mitch McConnell will make his little chuckle, and smile, and ignore reporters questions and will not lose any sleep. Paul Ryan will furrow his brow and insist that by block granting medicaid, the state’s will do better by their citizens when that will be constitionally impossible in light of the requirement to balance a budget and who believes that more than a very few states would raise taxes to fill the widening gaps.
And the media will miss the point and wonder why the dems wouldn’t work with the reps to come up with a bipartisan solution, and the Andrea Mitchells will feel justified in getting the tax cuts they so richly deserve.
And the despair and suffering across the nation will be just so many jars of change in so many mini marts and gas stations with a peeling picture of a very sick person in desprate need of care, to be replaced by the next desprate sick person in need of unaffordable, unavailable insurance.
And thus, America will be made great. Again.
Mike in NC
We’re several episodes in to “Handmaid’s Tale” on Hulu and they show a part of futuristic Toronto called “Little America” filled with people who managed to escape the GOP paradise imagined by Trump, Ryan, and McConnell.
StringOnAStick
@ArchTeryx: This is why I get so upset at people, including fellow mostly liberals, who look at obese co-workers or poor people and then go off on the “why should I pay for insurance for people who don’t take care of themselves?”. Either everyone is in the health insurance lifeboat, or the thing is going to sink (unless you have a solid middle class or better job, and benefits will continue to shrink anyway). Health care is hugely expensive in the US, changing that requires either taxing the wealthy (the Koch’s do NOT approve of this idea) or completely restructuring how health care is delivered (the AMA and insurance industry not approve of this idea).
The MOTU class have joined ranks with the political class and decided they get to keep the benefits of modern medicine while the rest of us get the care from the 1950’s and die as soon as possible once we can’t work anymore. I remember the whole Simpson-Bowles commission, it was all there to see, especially Simpson running around doing his ” people think government is a cow with thousands of teats for them to suck from” speeches. Not that he’d ever give up his lifetime teat access of course. The people telling us this is all for the good of the country are the ones making sure they will never feel the impacts, so our job is to make them feel the political heat as much as we possibly can.
MisterForkbeard
@ArchTeryx: Actively removing health care isn’t “malign neglect”, is it? It’s purposefully removing their tools needed to survive, knowing that some people will die because of it.
ArchTeryx
@MisterForkbeard: Technically it’s malign neglect: Neglect with the intent of harm. They’re simply removing the tools people need to survive. They’re not actually lining them up in front of firing squads or herding them into Zyklon B “showers”. The end result is the same, though – and the former is a long, painful, drawn-out death.
Freedom to starve or die of treatable illnesses is still freedom, in their twisted little minds.
Frankensteinbeck
@JPL:
They realize it. From watching Bevin’s election in Kentucky, I can tell you: Partly their lives are less important than spitting on Obama and wiping the accomplishments of the first black president out of the history book. Partly they believe, on a fundamental level, that if the Other is hurt enough they themselves will magically profit. The perfect example was the jobless woman surviving on Obamacare, who wanted it repealed because once the moochers were kicked off the system, she would get a good job and not need Obamacare.
Still, she’s the end of a scale. I approve of anything that will beat into the heads of the people who took this stuff for granted but never thought about it closely that they are also standing on ground zero.
Another Scott
YouTube version with working CC.
It’s a good ad. They’ve got versions tailored for NV, WV, AK, ME.
Laura – I don’t think it’s mainly intended to have a direct impact on Republican senators. (As you point out, a TV ad isn’t as powerful as the interests of big donors, etc.). It’s to get people who are eligible to vote educated and involved. If that makes GOP senators worried about their re-election chances, fine. But the ultimate goal isn’t to get GOP senators to behave better – it’s to replace them with sensible people. This is one step along that path.
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Cheers,
Scott.
bemused
I watched a very well done labor union documentary, Northern Minnesota’s Labor Wars”, produced by Koochiching County (MN) Community Public TV, KCCTV with fascinating early 1900 footage, photos and documentation of aggressive company actions and bloody strikes. The iron ore miners agitating against poor pay and dangerous work conditions played a big role in the fight for unions: “The struggles of the men, women and children led directly to the middle class existence”.
The statement that early workers’ sacrifices for decent pay and work conditions is “little known but an incredibly important part of our history” makes me angry. The hostory of how big mining and lumber companies treated employees in the era before unions took hold should not be “little known”. I’d be willing to bet this documentary has rarely or never been shown in public school classrooms even here in iron range country and where so much of union struggles occurred.
rikyrah
@ArchTeryx:
Keep on telling it
rikyrah
They intend to cut 880 Billion dollars from a program, and then purse their lips to LIE that there will be no diminishing of service.
That’s a phucking LIE
And they do it to give a tax cut to millionaires and billionaires.
gene108
@ArchTeryx:
Good point
Tilda Swintons Bald Cap
@rikyrah: And it WILL pass.
Villago Delenda Est
The fact of the matter is, and a friend of my experienced this, dealing with a medical emergency means you have to check to see if they facility you’re going to is “in network” or you’ll get hit with a huge bill. And sometimes, even if you’re told the facility is “in network”, an on-call substitute for the staff that’s scheduled to be there is not “in network” and therefore the insurance company balks at paying.
This is incredibly fucked up. It needs to end.
Villago Delenda Est
@bemused: The 40 hour work week, time and a half for overtime, paid vacations, collective bargaining…all were paid for with blood. And most Americans (particularly Trumpanzees) take all them for granted, without the slightest clue that men and women fought, bled, and died for them.
Timurid
@ArchTeryx:
And who did the Nazis come for first? The sick and the disabled.
nightranger
@Mike in NC: Yes that Little America episode was pretty good. I’m hooked on the series. Don’t know where they go with it but I’m along for the ride.
The show was probably written and produced quite awhile ago but their timing for airing it is absolutely perfect
Gator90
@ArchTeryx: As a Jew with victims of Nazism in his family tree, I am deeply offended by … attempts to police your tone. As Rikyrah would say, tell that truth. (Just be prepared to have your anonymous blogospheric venting cited in the media as an example of why both sides do it but Democrats are worse…)
Aleta
ArchTeryx
@Timurid: Exactly what the tone police at LGM were told, and that shut them up for good.
Aleta
(Map is from a story at the NYT.)
Kent
Pulling this much money out of medicare and the rural health care system will actually bankrupt and shutter hundreds of small rural hospitals that are now operating on a shoestring. Then it won’t even matter if you are on an Obamacare policy or willing to pay cash if the nearest medical facility is 2 hours away. But hey…MAGA
john fremont
@ArchTeryx: The 20th century is piled with the bodies of people who struggled and died by having their lives affected by policies pursued to validate economic theories. Right now , the GOP is taking another swing at validating Supply Side theory, any consequences are not their fault.
john fremont
@Kent: Yep, and once the hospitals close the ambulance services aren’t far behind. Many of these communities use ground ambulances to get the patient to the county hospital for stabilization, then the medevac choppers get them to the big cities that have Level 1 trauma centers. In most states, Medicaid can cover the cost of the ground ambulance. Aircraft being much more expensive per hour to operate, Medicaid payments will cover the cost of fuel, the pilot’s and EMT’s salaries not so much. Any further cuts to Medicaid, Medicare and the shrinking of commercial insurance coverage will put much tighter margins on rural ambulance services, even the non profit operators. That’s some long rides in the back of an ambulance.
J R in WV
@john fremont:
Yeah, long rides on increasingly terrible roadways, up and down steep hills and around sharp curves, with dropoffs from the broken pavement to the eroded shoulder. A good ambulance driver will have to slow down to avoid dropping off the pavement, and event that can and will cause a top-heavy ambulance to ROLL OVER, sending patient and medic all over the inside of that little box on wheels.
Few things more pathetic than seeing volunteer emergency crews clustered around a shattered ambulance, trying to extract living folks from the wreckage. At least most of them around here a diesel-powered, so they don’t explode into a ball of fire on impact.
I’m old enough to remember when all the ambulances were hearses with different paint jobs, and operated by the local funeral homes, all but the couple the fire department used in town. Nothing much in the way of medical supplies or training, an oxygen bottle and some bandages, driven and manned by funeral home guys, who weren’t afraid of blood or dead people.
Hoping we don’t go back there!!
Lynn Dee
Marble countertop? The vanity in the bathroom looks like it’s from Lowe’s or Home Depot.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Lynn Dee: years ago, a family stepped up to offer their personal experiences with a child suffering from a chronic condition, and the cost and difficulties of getting him insured. Michelle Malkin (IIRC) went to their house and looked through the windows, and gleefully reported to the internet that they were frauds and hypocrites because they weren’t living in squalor, they even had fancy countertops!
Lynn Dee
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Ha. I missed that. Sounds like her. But I see now where the remark came from. Thanks.
J R in WV
@Lynn Dee:
Our Home Depot has a big display of the various granites available from them, for bath or kitchen installation.
Really !!
ETA: Maybe Lowes, but their accessability from the highway is terrible, so I mostly stop at Home Depot, which is way more convenient from my directions. So probably I saw it at H Dpot
Lynn Dee
@J R in WV: I didn’t mean to suggest Home Depot and Lowe’s only sell that particular vanity. Just that they do sell it.
mvr
@Lynn Dee: Yes, molded plastic, not marble.
Ohio Mom
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: and IIRC, the reason that family had such a nice kitchen was that the dad was a carpenter and had done it all himself.
On another note, anyone familiar with asthma is going to find that ad unrealistic. Inhalers do not work that fast!
What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?
Marble? I thought the countertop du jour was quartz.